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Fight 1: Wonder Woman goes down to Cap level body.

Fight 2: Captain America goes up to WW level body, (including flight).

Trying to avoid confusion here, as last time i tried this the concept of equal bodies was almost impossible to grasp.
Fight 1 both have Cap level bodies, fight 2 both have WW level bodies.
Both fights are h2h, no weapons.

Cap in both.

Huh, and no confusion. Thanks.

WW in both

Cap in the first and WW in the second, imo.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Cap in the first and WW in the second, imo.
Agree.
Cap is not good at Super power. So Round 2 is WW

I think we are assuming neither is directly hindered by their new body.

Cap in both imo, MA heralds are hard to gauge.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
I think we are assuming neither is directly hindered by their new body.

Cap in both imo, MA heralds are hard to gauge.

This

Cap beats her bloody, broken, carcass into the concrete then gets in her face and screams:

I'm the GODDAMNED BATMAN!!!!

WW is a much better fighter h2h than rogers, she takes this easy

Cap in both.

WW holds back a lot, but in direct contests of skills, she's Batman/Canary level, right?

Shes sub Batman level...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

WW holds back a lot, but in direct contests of skills, she's Batman/Canary level, right?


Yes.

And with much more experience using flight and powers in combat, I'd say she'd win scenario 2.

Cap should win fight 1 for a majority. But as others have said, WW should really be able to take a good majority as she would have far more experience at how to use her powers in combat.

Thanks all.

I tend to think WW could take round 2, if she took to the air. That style of fighting'd take Cap a bit of time to master, time he wouldnt have in this scenario.

Originally posted by relentless1
WW is a much better fighter h2h than rogers, she takes this easy hysterical comedy gold

Originally posted by deathslash
hysterical comedy gold
I chose not to touch that one but, since you did:

Oh, i know he's well, Captain America, but i'm giving WW credit in the scenario; she'd be all over him. Hard to adapt and learn while getting beat on.

If anyone COULD do it, it'd be Cap of course. Not going to fight too hard to deny that post.

Rogers in both

1st one CA and 2nd one WW

Originally posted by krisblaze
Cap in the first and WW in the second, imo.

This. Cap isn't going to be a professional from the onset with WW powers. Takes time and experience.

there is no way CA win with WW

Cap in first
WW in second as she has far more experience in her powers than cap does

Originally posted by pain100
there is no way CA win with WW

Why not?

Sounds like he meant both scenarios so yeah, why not?

Originally posted by h1a8
Cap in first
WW in second as she has far more experience in her powers than cap does

Agreed. I Can't argue with that.

Cap in both.

Cap in one Diana in two. Simply because that's their thing

you ppl are idiots, you try to down play me with your cute little jabs, its pathetic really, how about you give me reasoning as to why you think Cap is so much better at h2h than Wonder Woman?? But of course a bunch of geeks in their moms basements wouldn't know how to react accordingly in a social situation, even one on a forum board so i guess i can forgive...

Anyways Wonder Woman has trained with the Amazons her whole life (which is centuries BTW) and they are some of the fiercest fighters on the planet, trained in all manner of armed and unarmed combat, including shields so you can't tell me that she's not leaps and bounds ahead of Rogers in fighting skill with centuries of combat experience and utmost skill

Experience doesn't count for all that.

Ra's apparently has centuries of sword-fighting skills. And is usually bloodlusted.

Batman stalemates/beats him with what, 5 years worth of experience?

Originally posted by relentless1
you ppl are idiots, you try to down play me with your cute little jabs, its pathetic really, how about you give me reasoning as to why you think Cap is so much better at h2h than Wonder Woman?? But of course a bunch of geeks in their moms basements wouldn't know how to react accordingly in a social situation, even one on a forum board so i guess i can forgive...

Anyways Wonder Woman has trained with the Amazons her whole life (which is centuries BTW) and they are some of the fiercest fighters on the planet, trained in all manner of armed and unarmed combat, including shields so you can't tell me that she's not leaps and bounds ahead of Rogers in fighting skill with centuries of combat experience and utmost skill


Not that I necessarily disagree with you on who would win here but what makes you think everyone who replied to you are "geeks living in their mom's basement"? I mean, you're on this forum too arguing about who would win in fights between make-believe characters like everyone else so it seems to me that you are just as much a "geek" as everybody else here. Am I missing something?

she's beaten Batman before, thats nothing to sneeze at he's one of the top 3 fighters in DC

the one guy tried to clown me, dismissing my earlier comment as a joke, and it happens all the time here, people have to resort to cutting people down rather than coming up with a valid response to an argument, that comment of geeks in the basement was meant for those who like to talk shit behind their computer rather than come on here and debate properly

PS im a geek of the highest order

A powered Wonder Woman beating Batman does nothing to prove that she beat Cap in a fight where they have equal bodies.

Originally posted by relentless1
she's beaten Batman before, thats nothing to sneeze at he's one of the top 3 fighters in DC

He's not top three though

well i suppose its a matter of opinion but id say the tope three human fighters are Batman Cassandra cain and Richard Dragon, with Shiva and Sensei rounding out the top 5

What's one of the first things you learn in MA?

Restraint.

Cap, in scenario 2, would accidentally punch her head off.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Cap in the first and WW in the second, imo.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What's one of the first things you learn in MA?

Restraint.

Cap, in scenario 2, would accidentally punch her head off.

Originally posted by relentless1
well i suppose its a matter of opinion but id say the tope three human fighters are Batman Cassandra cain and Richard Dragon, with Shiva and Sensei rounding out the top 5

You'd be wrong

Batman isn't in top 3 MA of DC? Da ****?

Batman without his suit? naw....

Batnipples add MA points?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Batman isn't in top 3 MA of DC? Da ****?

Well it depends. Relentless^ I'm assuming is referring to pre~dcnu cuz he mentioned Richard Dragon and he hasn't appeared yet since the reboot. But taking away future/elderly martial artist like sensei, o-sensei and val. I'd say top three is dragon, shiva, bronze tiger. Bruce is in top ten just not top three

Bats has beaten Shiva at least once that I can think of and he's stalemated Bronze Tiger and Richard Dragon, id say that puts him in the tope three

Originally posted by krisblaze
Cap in the first and WW in the second, imo. Co Sign

Originally posted by relentless1
Bats has beaten Shiva at least once that I can think of and he's stalemated Bronze Tiger and Richard Dragon, id say that puts him in the tope three

Only recall her losing once to while mind controlled

Originally posted by relentless1
you ppl are idiots, you try to down play me with your cute little jabs, its pathetic really, how about you give me reasoning as to why you think Cap is so much better at h2h than Wonder Woman?? But of course a bunch of geeks in their moms basements wouldn't know how to react accordingly in a social situation, even one on a forum board so i guess i can forgive...

Anyways Wonder Woman has trained with the Amazons her whole life (which is centuries BTW) and they are some of the fiercest fighters on the planet, trained in all manner of armed and unarmed combat, including shields so you can't tell me that she's not leaps and bounds ahead of Rogers in fighting skill with centuries of combat experience and utmost skill
American Judo Boxing FTW.

Cap in round 1

WW in Round 2, Cap isn't very smart and would probably not understand how to fight at that intensity.

Hi, phlegmgen.
So, you have an ant Cap, ant jew, anti black shtick this time out?
Preeetty sure the Cap thing's not gonna fly!

Originally posted by relentless1
you ppl are idiots, you try to down play me with your cute little jabs, its pathetic really, how about you give me reasoning as to why you think Cap is so much better at h2h than Wonder Woman?? But of course a bunch of geeks in their moms basements wouldn't know how to react accordingly in a social situation, even one on a forum board so i guess i can forgive...

Anyways Wonder Woman has trained with the Amazons her whole life (which is centuries BTW) and they are some of the fiercest fighters on the planet, trained in all manner of armed and unarmed combat, including shields so you can't tell me that she's not leaps and bounds ahead of Rogers in fighting skill with centuries of combat experience and utmost skill great point. she has also displayed masterful techniques including pressure points and masterful countering.

But, American JUDO BOXING!

I think Dianna has a chance to take both (at least a few out of 10), During her depowered era she fought multiple Amazons who had enhanced stats way over Rogers and were far from devoid of combat skill, and was victorious. People tend to ignore her skill showings with powers but you can't deny the ones without. The amazons weren't her powered level but they were 1/3 to 1/2 of it so taking down several 40 odd tonners who are trained combatants with naught but skill is pretty good IMO

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Well it depends. Relentless^ I'm assuming is referring to pre~dcnu cuz he mentioned Richard Dragon and he hasn't appeared yet since the reboot. But taking away future/elderly martial artist like sensei, o-sensei and val. I'd say top three is dragon, shiva, bronze tiger. Bruce is in top ten just not top three
Batman is at least equal to shiva and above tiger. Originally posted by Sin I AM
Only recall her losing once to while mind controlled
Where her skills were not diminished and she suckershotted him.