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Who wins? Fight takes place in the Emperor's throne room.

Malgus.

Malgus wipes them out

Malgus solidly

It would not be easy for him, but I think he could emerge victorious.

Ideally, though, you'd want a fourth.

Probably the team.

The way I see it, the trio can likely hold him off in most areas, and he's going to tire out faster matching multiple people in multiple areas, but if the situation is broken in some way and one element is disrupted, the the other two elements are in a fair amount of trouble. Worror's concentration being disrupted would make things much harder, though not necessarily impossible. If Raskta went down, then he'll slice up the other two, and if Farfalla goes down, he'll take out Raskta with the force.

Originally posted by Q99
It would not be easy for him, but I think he could emerge victorious.

Ideally, though, you'd want a fourth.
This would be easy for him, the manner in which he blasted away a much more competent Strike Team is very telling. And we are assuming a scenario not restricted by PIS.

I don't see how the Jedi can cope with Malgus's maelstrom powers.

Also, if Worror performs BM or have the chance to do so, then only 2 Jedi are left to handle Malgus. However, Malgus's maelstrom powers would do the trick of overwhelming all Jedi simultaneously.

Originally posted by Q99
The way I see it, the trio can likely hold him off in most areas, and he's going to tire out faster matching multiple people in multiple areas, but if the situation is broken in some way and one element is disrupted, the the other two elements are in a fair amount of trouble. Worror's concentration being disrupted would make things much harder, though not necessarily impossible. If Raskta went down, then he'll slice up the other two, and if Farfalla goes down, he'll take out Raskta with the force.
Against Bane, there were 5 Jedi in total. While Worror performed BM, 4 could concentrate on Bane. But Zannah also joined and this left Bane with 3. He then blasted all Jedi away from him and approached Worror who was saved by another Jedi at this moment. But with BM disrupted, Jedi fell like fodder.

Malgus developed a solution for tackling multiple combatants simultaneously: maelstrom powers.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130907150744/starwars/images/c/c0/Malgus_using_Force_maelstrom_BoS.JPG

Malgus is inferior to Orbalisk Bane. He'd fall to them where Bane stalemated or held the edge.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Malgus is inferior to Orbalisk Bane. He'd fall to them where Bane stalemated or held the edge.
This is weak.

Malgus, as Emperor, have maelstrom powers, and numerous feats of overwhelming powerful opponents with his raw power. In addition, his lightning powers can overcome even lightsaber augmented defenses of the opponents.

Bane is lacking in comparison, Bane's most powerful wave did not even budge Kas'im from his position. And his lightning powers could be also contained with lightsaber augmented defenses.

Also, this Strike Team have 3 members, not 5.

His maelstrom won't overwhelm opponents who weathered Bane's force attacks. Raskta was able to block Bane's lightning, which is superior to Malgus', so he'll have no luck there.

Kas'im was only hit by a portion of the wave. The wave which destroyed the massive temple on Lehon which is a TK feat surpassing all of Malgus'. He's also utterly disintegrated people with his lightning (and TK), which is better than what Malgus has accomplished.

Bane was only engaged by 3 members of the strike team, and later Johun joined in. Judging how Raskta and Farfalla did against Bane with Worror's BM, Malgus would fall to Rastka's superior speed and lightsaber ability.

Not sure...

Originally posted by Nephthys
His maelstrom won't overwhelm opponents who weathered Bane's force attacks.
And you know this how?

Maelstrom powers are the precursor to Force Storm (Wormhole) powers, they are so deadly and effective. Bane doesn't have anything remotely close in destructive potential.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Raskta was able to block Bane's lightning, which is superior to Malgus', so he'll have no luck there.
Oh, another conjecture.

Malgus have lightning feats of overwhelming the lightsaber augmented defenses of truly powerful opponents. Lsu won't be a problem for him.

Please don't try to impose Bane's limitations on others without valid reasoning.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Kas'im was only hit by a portion of the wave. The wave which destroyed the massive temple on Lehon which is a TK feat surpassing all of Malgus'.
Does it matter? Malgus did not collapse buildings but he defeated an opponent of such raw power. This is moot point in a debate featuring Malgus.

Force wave is just like that, it covers lot of ground due to its nature. Kas'im managed to protect himself with a standard defensive application. Shame.

Defenses of a Force-user > disintegrating structure

And you are wrong about Bane's superiority over Malgus in raw power aspects; Malgus's feat of sending the entire Strike Team (comprising of some of the most powerful Force-users of the mythos) packing across the hall is much superior display of raw power in comparison. Also, he disintegrated an entire column with a just figure-oriented gesture at this point.

Overwhelming the defenses of a Force-user > defenses of a Force-user > disintegrating structure

Your point is moot.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He's also utterly disintegrated people with his lightning (and TK), which is better than what Malgus has accomplished.
Lightning does not disintegrates, it burns. Bane disintegrated some Technobeasts with his powers but they had already degraded in a span of many years.

Bane was proficient in use of lightning but he never managed to produce lightning of such intensity that would overwhelm lightsaber-augmented defenses of a powerful opponent. Never.

Malgus is among the few Sith Lords whose lightning powers could overwhelm lightsaber-augmented defenses of a powerful opponent. One reason is that Malgus could channel his emotions into his attacks in exemplary manner, such a state of mind will significantly augment the effectiveness of powers such as lightning.

Your point is moot.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Bane was only engaged by 3 members of the strike team, and later Johun joined in. Judging how Raskta and Farfalla did against Bane with Worror's BM, Malgus would fall to Rastka's superior speed and lightsaber ability.
Bane was fighting recklessly. This is why Jedi were upon him.

Malgus not just fights masterfully but he have significantly grown in power as of Emperor. The Strike Team have no answer for his maelstrom powers.

Also, Malgus conjures up a protection bubble for safety while he unleashes maelstrom powers. Good luck touching him in this situation.

Malgus never used maelstrom against a force user, and it requires a break and intense concentration to summon. He wouldn't stand a chance if he tried to use it here, stop using that pathetic argument.

Originally posted by Selenial
Malgus never used maelstrom against a force user,
You know this how?

Originally posted by Selenial
and it requires a break and intense concentration to summon. He wouldn't stand a chance if he tried to use it here, stop using that pathetic argument.
The initial step of the power is to conjure up a protection bubble for safety and then proceed to escalate the power for offensive purposes.

Malgus developed this power to overcome multiple opponents simultaneously. This is a good option for him to end a confrontation on short notice.

Bane never held an edge lol wtf? He never even fought all to them at once? And Malgus's telekinetic showings exceed the ones Bane showed during his duel, he can ragdoll two of them at once

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And you know this how?

Maelstrom powers are the precursor to Force Storm (Wormhole) powers, they are so deadly and effective. Bane doesn't have anything remotely close in destructive potential.

Because Bane > Malgus.

Oh jesus. Maelstrom is just TK and lightning. Malgus just puts himself in a force bubble and starts throwing objects around and pelts opponents with lightning. Raskta can block that lightning and Farfalla can defend against the thrown objects. Easy.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Oh, another conjecture.

Malgus have lightning feats of overwhelming the lightsaber augmented defenses of truly powerful opponents. Lsu won't be a problem for him.

Please don't try to impose Bane's limitations on others without valid reasoning.

More like an extremely well-reasoned argument formed from evidence and superior logic. Stop going on about breaking lightsaber defenses. Being able to do that is dependent upon the defenses of the opponent, not just the power of the Sith. Raskta defending against Bane's lightning only proves she can defend against Malgus'.

Bane's lightning is better than Malgus'. Hows that for valid reasoning?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Does it matter? Malgus did not collapse buildings but he defeated an opponent of such raw power. This is moot point in a debate featuring Malgus.

Lawl, that zabrak jedi's feat is utterly incomparable to Bane's in terms of scale and power. Bane far eclipses that showing.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Force wave is just like that, it covers lot of ground due to its nature. Kas'im managed to protect himself with a standard defensive application. Shame.

Thats a moot point concerning my argument, bro. It doesn't matter if its due to its nature, Kas'im was only struck by a small part of the wave.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Defenses of a Force-user > disintegrating structure

That depends on the force user.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And you are wrong about Bane's superiority over Malgus in raw power aspects; Malgus's feat of sending the entire Strike Team (comprising of some of the most powerful Force-users of the mythos) packing across the hall is much superior display of raw power in comparison.

They were caught off guard. Also at most there were only two force users there. And thats still not up to Bane's standards.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Also, he disintegrated an entire column with a just figure-oriented gesture at this point.

I don't recall this.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Overwhelming the defenses of a Force-user > defenses of a Force-user > disintegrating structure

Your point is moot.

Terrible reasoning.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Lightning does not disintegrates, it burns. Bane disintegrated some Technobeasts with his powers but they had already degraded in a span of many years.

Same thing. Bane could incinerate beings to ash with his lightning. Which is better than what Malgus has done. Also Bane disintegrated a dozen, not some.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Bane was proficient in use of lightning but he never managed to produce lightning of such intensity that would overwhelm lightsaber-augmented defenses of a powerful opponent. Never.

Which merely speaks of the strength of his opponents, not Bane's weakness.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Malgus is among the few Sith Lords whose lightning powers could overwhelm lightsaber-augmented defenses of a powerful opponent. One reason is that Malgus could channel his emotions into his attacks in exemplary manner, such a state of mind will significantly augment the effectiveness of powers such as lightning.

Your point is moot.

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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Bane was fighting recklessly. This is why Jedi were upon him.

Malgus not just fights masterfully but he have significantly grown in power as of Emperor. The Strike Team have no answer for his maelstrom powers.

Also, Malgus conjures up a protection bubble for safety while he unleashes maelstrom powers. Good luck touching him in this situation.

Its why Raskta hit him so many times, but it doesn't diminish her effectiveness in dueling him. With the Orbalisks Bane would be able to slaughter most opponents with ease (including Malgus), yet BM Raskta was capable of matching him, putting him on the defensive and almost running rings around him. That's freaking insane.

He's absolutely no match for Raskta in a lightsaber duel bro. Sorry, his maelstrom won't be of much help either.

Malgus would stop after either tiring or judging the attack ineffective after the Jedi counter it. Shame.

Nope Malgus has Bane beaten in most categories from dueling skill, to physical strength, to force ability, etc. None of these opponents are better than Zallow or Leneer, who Malgus dealt with accordingly. The only time Bane comes close to Malgus is with a nexus and his armor

More like an extremely well-reasoned argument formed from evidence and superior logic. Stop going on about breaking lightsaber defenses. Being able to do that is dependent upon the defenses of the opponent, not just the power of the Sith. Raskta defending against Bane's lightning only proves she can defend against Malgus'.



Why would lightning be more important than skill? Aside from that Malgus has superior telekinetic showings to Bane in this duel, not to mention their main fighter can't take powerful telekinetic assaults. Farfalla can't defend her while simultaneously getting destroyed by a force wave that sent a Wrath/Nox/Hero flying. Malgus is still collectively more powerful than the team.




He incinerated beings when being amped by orbalisks, and who cares about lightning? Malgus outskills and is more powerful than anyone on the team




Lawl, Bane was amped by the nexus when he toppled the temple. He never could replicate it, how does it feel to know that a random fodder character has superior telekinetic showings to Darth Bane?



Lol @ Malgus losing to Raskta when she is utterly featless as a duelist, the other opponents aren't offering any help at all. Why would he tire when this team is inferior alone to HoT/Barsen or Nox/Wrath, all of whom Malgus sent flying and dominated with the force. Malgus can take these weaklings

@Nephthys

Malgus could take this team with ease, any high tier Sith would wreck duelists from Bane's era.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Because Bane > Malgus.
I can say as easily that Bane > Luke. Doesn't makes my position credible.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh jesus. Maelstrom is just TK and lightning. Malgus just puts himself in a force bubble and starts throwing objects around and pelts opponents with lightning. Raskta can block that lightning and Farfalla can defend against the thrown objects. Easy.
Oh nice, you just figured it all out.

So Malgus is performing lightning and TK, right? Actions that he is known to perform commonly during his confrontations. So how would these efforts even serve as a precursor to development of Force Storm (Wormhole) power, I wonder.

Something is amiss. In your logic I may add.

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Maelstrom power manifests from multi-tasking effort that involves combination of other powers to produce a desired effect or energy; lightning and telekinetic powers are actually among the prerequisites. This energy manifests in the form of a invulnerable sphere covering the Force-user. The intensity of the energy produces flying debris as a consequence. This desired effect or energy (i.e. maelstrom) can be further enhanced or augmented to produce Force Storm (Wormhole) effect. This is what I gather from Maelstrom power and how it serves as a precursor to Force (Wormhole) power.

Force maelstrom is a big leap from the common developments of using powers such as TK and lightning to overcome opponents. It is a manifestation of destructive energy from combination of multiple powers to produce the desired effect. This manifestation of energy can be further intensified into Force Storm (Wormhole) effect.

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Clear now?

Watch the photo carefully. It represents much more then independent utilization of TK and lightning. Malgus is using multiple powers to produce a desired effect or energy (i.e. maelstrom) and this energy is overwhelming the opponents; the maelstrom is tossing the opponents around, injuring or killing them in the process. I counted 3 victims in total. The lightning is manifesting independently from Malgus's own casts around the invulnerable sphere. And their is an opponent behind Malgus getting tossed around from the sphere without Malgus even focusing on him from within the sphere.

Here is a bigger one:-

http://i61.tinypic.com/33u7uxz.png

Here is elaboration from Darth Sidious:

Already, I have perfected the Force maelstrom, which creates the invulnerable sphere to block incoming enemy attacks while bombarding enemies with debris and electrifying them with bolts of lightning.

This technique can be increased into a Force Storm. The churning energy mass of the Force Storm can consume everything it touches, for at its eye is pure hate. Just as a black hole devours a star, this storm can swallow armies and fold space.

The invulnerable sphere is the manifestation of energy that is known as Force maelstrom. This sphere is a complex manifestation of energy which offers protection beneath its sphere but is violent at the outside.

Originally posted by Nephthys
More like an extremely well-reasoned argument formed from evidence and superior logic. Stop going on about breaking lightsaber defenses. Being able to do that is dependent upon the defenses of the opponent, not just the power of the Sith. Raskta defending against Bane's lightning only proves she can defend against Malgus'.
Such self-praise.

I know that defenses of the opponent matter this is why I stated "lightsaber-augmented defenses of a powerful opponent." In this statement, emphasis is on both the defensive potential of lightsabers and power of the opponent who performs the defensive actions.

Lsu managed to stop Bane's lightning with BM effect. However, she isn't the only one who pulled this off. Zannah also did so without any augmentation.

In contrast, Malgus overwhelmed the lightsaber-augmented defenses of powerful Force-users such as Leener, Adraas, and the undisclosed mighty Zabrak Jedi. All three are more powerful then Lsu and => Zannah.

As I pointed out earlier, your point is moot.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Bane's lightning is better than Malgus'. Hows that for valid reasoning?
It is not valid. See above.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lawl, that zabrak jedi's feat is utterly incomparable to Bane's in terms of scale and power. Bane far eclipses that showing.
Nonsense.

Collapsing two buildings is a feat of enormous scale and scope, and one of the greatest feats of destruction in sheer scale performed by a single Force-user. It produced a mountain of rubble. The parts of the rubble that fell over Malgus, represented just a pocket of the total.

Malgus stood in a pocket under a mountain of rubble, legs bent, the power from his upraised hands preventing several tons of duracrete and steel from crushing him. Dust made his already troubled breathing more difficult. He coughed as the words of his father echoed in his mind.

He'd been sloppy, so lost in his need for revenge that he'd failed to properly evaluate the Jedi's power. He'd surrendered his reason to bloodlust. But no more. With an effort of will, he contained his anger, controlled it, made it a whetstone against which he sharpened his power. Using the Force, he blew the rubble up and away from him. It fell with a crash into the adjacent buildings. A Force-augmented leap carried him out and over the heap. The Jedi's eyes widened as Malgus hit the street. Malgus sneered and charged.

Taken from The Third Lesson

Common sense dictates that two buildings will produce lot more rubble then several tons that landed over Malgus. The rubble would have spread across the street.

Nonetheless, a fantastic display of raw power from Malgus as well, that he was able to toss several tons of rubble around like rocks away from him. Kas'im and Vader both failed to protect themselves under similar circumstances.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Thats a moot point concerning my argument, bro. It doesn't matter if its due to its nature, Kas'im was only struck by a small part of the wave.
But this point makes no sense. A force-wave is vast manifestation of telekinetic attack that can be used to overwhelm large number of opponents simultaneously or even to collapse a structure.

It doesn't matters that Kas'im is hit by a small part of the wave. The kinetic intensity of the wave matters, not its span. The kinetic intensity that hit Kas'im was potent enough to pulveraize a defensive individual but Kas'im conjured up a defensive application to safe himself. Jedi and Sith commonly learn to defend themselves to external attacks with applications such as Force Shield.

The wave unleashed by Bane was certainly potent, but not strong enough to overwhelm the defenses of a powerful opponent.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That depends on the force user.
You are missing the point.

Bane produced a wave that was strong enough to collapse a structure but failed to overwhelm the defenses of a powerful opponent (i.e. Kas'im). And I am being generous here by labeling Kas'im as a powerful Sith Lord, he is not a prodigy though. And it is unrealistic for Kas'im to have superior defenses then a prodigiously strong Force-user. He cannot have defenses superior to those of lets say Emperor, Luke, Revan, Yoda, Satele, and Barsen'thor III because he does not have raw power and command of the Force on par with them.

Originally posted by Nephthys
They were caught off guard. Also at most there were only two force users there. And thats still not up to Bane's standards.
How do you know that they were caught off-guard? You mistake everybody for a fool? They went to fight Malgus, not for having lunch with him.

And that's not up to Bane's standards? The guy who couldn't even budge Kas'im. Nice.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't recall this.
I saw this in the video.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Terrible reasoning.
Yours is much worse. When it comes to Bane, you loose critical thinking.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Same thing. Bane could incinerate beings to ash with his lightning. Which is better than what Malgus has done. Also Bane disintegrated a dozen, not some.
Terrible reasoning.

Bane could incinerate defenseless beings into ash as noted numerous times in the novels. However, his lightning does not achieves this effect when the opponent is a Jedi because the Jedi aren't defenseless.

Malgus have overwhelmed light-saber augmented defenses of powerful Jedi and Sith with his lightning powers. He obviously produces lightning of greater intensity and potency then Bane ever managed to, based on the evidence.

I suggest that you move on from subjectivity and apply critical thinking like you do in topics not featuring Bane. Your favoritism of Bane is reaching unhealthy proportions.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Which merely speaks of the strength of his opponents, not Bane's weakness.
And how strong his opponents are holistically? Apart from Zannah, others are not so grand.

Originally posted by Nephthys
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Its not a wank.

If you don't even know that emotions such as anger or hatred fuel potency of lightning, you are not fit to debate the topic of lightning. Simple.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Its why Raskta hit him so many times, but it doesn't diminish her effectiveness in dueling him. With the Orbalisks Bane would be able to slaughter most opponents with ease (including Malgus), yet BM Raskta was capable of matching him, putting him on the defensive and almost running rings around him. That's freaking insane.
Malgus will cook Bane alive with his powers, once he figures out that orbalisks offer safety against lightsaber attacks.

Comparing Lsu to Malgus is stupid and asinine. Their is no contest between the power and capabilities of the two. And Lsu's performance against Bane is BM-oriented, it is not her original performance. In addition, as I pointed out earlier, Bane was not fighting the Jedi masterfully, he was fighting the Jedi recklessly and this is why the Jedi managed to land blows on him.

Do you think that Lsu would slaughter Bane (DOE) in a strictly lightsaber duel?

Originally posted by Nephthys
He's absolutely no match for Raskta in a lightsaber duel bro. Sorry, his maelstrom won't be of much help either.
I am not interested in your subjectivity. Sorry.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Malgus would stop after either tiring or judging the attack ineffective after the Jedi counter it. Shame.
Malgus (Emperor) will destroy this Strike Team easily, realistically.

If your intention is to trade jokes, notify me. If you are serious, then apply critical thinking.

That Raskta could basically run circles around Bane on the BM amp would suggest that she was comparably as fast while off of the amp, and Bane as of ROT is not only incredibly powerful but has regularly displayed top tier speed feats all the way back to his POD days, and his later incarnation has by far the greatest display of speed there is.

The argument that she's held back as a duelist by her Force power is quite frankly idiotic. It wouldn't even be that absurd an argument to conclude that she's the single best person we've ever seen handle a lightsaber, given her obvious technical proficiency coupled with that high level of speed.

That is a legitimate viewpoint that I am not going to dispute or contradict in any way. Raskta solo's.

I cannot tell if you're being sarcastic or not. This trickery is not appreciated my young female padawan learner.

Neph's a dude. Don't make the same mistake Ant did...

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Neph's a dude. Don't make the same mistake Ant did...

I still laugh about that.

We all do Seleniel. We all do...

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Neph's a dude. Don't make the same mistake Ant did...

I think I would know what gender my padawan learner is thank you very much, and he's 100% female. He's so female he couldn't be male if he tried.

**** off my man, tomatonia.

Originally posted by appletonia
That Raskta could basically run circles around Bane on the BM amp would suggest that she was comparably as fast while off of the amp, and Bane as of ROT is not only incredibly powerful but has regularly displayed top tier speed feats all the way back to his POD days, and his later incarnation has by far the greatest display of speed there is.
BM significantly augmented the power and speed of the Jedi. Just to give you an example, when BM stopped; Farfalla felt exhausted and weak and was quickly overwhelmed by Zannah's sorcery. The other Jedi also fell because they no longer were as capable as they were with BM effect.

It is unclear how fast Lsu will be without BM effect but it significantly enhanced her capabilities.

Originally posted by appletonia
The argument that she's held back as a duelist by her Force power is quite frankly idiotic. It wouldn't even be that absurd an argument to conclude that she's the single best person we've ever seen handle a lightsaber, given her obvious technical proficiency coupled with that high level of speed.
You don't understand the implications of mastery of the Force and raw power on dueling ability. Both factors influence dueling ability of a Force-user along with martial skills. State of mind can also make difference. Essentially, multiple variables are involved.

Lsu is the single best person we've ever seen handle a lightsaber? This is really as stretch.

I find Darach more impressive. Kas'im and Windu are excellent as well.

I'm pretty sure the Jedi were taken out by Zannah's sorcery because Sarro was no longer holding her off; he was himself taken out because of the momentary distraction caused by the loss of BM. They were not taken out due to any direct loss in ability caused by the BM. I'm going by memory here, so if somebody could post the passages to confirm this it'd be greatly appreciated.

I'm not saying that the boost wasn't significant, it's described as such, but what I'm arguing is that it's unlikely it would have been so substantial that it would make someone go from being below top tier to literally god tier in speed (which is what possessing a level of speed that is lacking among top tier Force Users, and running circles around Bane, would respectively entail). None of the other Jedi, two of which who were elite, high level Jedi, were described as being anywhere near as fast; it's made painfully obvious that it was Raskta alone that was elevated to close that level of speed/combat ability, and BM in general does not have a precedent for enabling such substantial boosts.

Nothing indicates that her general Force power/mastery was lacking, it was simply her skill at directly defending against Force attacks. I'd argue that Darach was comparable as far as technical ability goes, but I'd imagine Raskta would have the speed advantage. Likewise with Kas'im, though Kas'im is probably the most technically proficient lightsaber practitioner we've ever seen. Mace Windu in all likelihood is not as techncially proficient, and when not operating under the effect that Vaapad has against darksiders, I'd argue he'd be at a significant speed disadvantage.

Originally posted by carthage
Malgus could take this team with ease, any high tier Sith would wreck duelists from Bane's era.

I disagree, I think in dueling skills they're probably respectable. After all, they had a lot of experience in duels.

Force knowledge was more the area they had issue in, thought a flawed area saber skill wasn't one of those flaws.

And there's three people to counterbalance one, no less.

Would love to see some of the duelists Lsu has beaten (without bm and in text, not off panel) that compares to Malgus's showings . She is utterly featless and has a massive force weakness, not to mention objectively less skilled in feats than Malgus.

Originally posted by Q99
I disagree, I think in dueling skills they're probably respectable. After all, they had a lot of experience in duels.

Force knowledge was more the area they had issue in, thought a flawed area saber skill wasn't one of those flaws.

And there's three people to counterbalance one, no less.
What good martial abilities will do if command of the Force is lacking?

Bane, as of PoD, just choked one of the most senior Brotherhood masters to death and fooled Kaan into thinking that he had subjugated him. Power and command of the Force are most important aspects for a Force-user, other skills only contribute to competence.

Yes, a powerful Sith Lord will trash much of the Brotherhood in a gauntlet. The prodigies may just cut a swath through them out in the open.

And your counterbalance remark is weak. Malgus, in his worst condition, dealt with two Jedi (one was very powerful and the other talented in ambush tactics). And this was much before becoming the Emperor.

Years later, inside the Jedi Temple, Malgus cut a swath through Jedi formations like a knife through the butter. He became more powerful afterwards as a consequence of oneness moment.

As of Emperor, Malgus have incredible powers and is at the pinnacle of his competence and experience. Team is doomed.