Colossus vs Hawkman

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thingy150
New 52 hawkman of course

No flight

Fight to incapacitation or KO

Who wins?

naurtoisbeast
Originally posted by thingy150
New 52 hawkman of course

No flight

Fight to incapacitation or KO

Who wins? Originally posted by thingy150
New 52 hawkman of course

No flight

Fight to incapacitation or KO

Who wins? i think colossus will win here

thingy150
Originally posted by naurtoisbeast
i think colossus will win here

Not disagreeing with you but why the hell do you quote people twice all the time?

Prof. T.C McAbe
I think Colossus is stronger and can take some hits from Hawkman, who has to go close range, where he will get down.

carver9
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75115/1926373-deadpool_18_ouch.jpg

DarkSaint85
Hawkman punches Colossus so hard, he BFRs him.

carver9
How strong is Hawkman?

thingy150
Originally posted by carver9
How strong is Hawkman?

Pretty strong, if he goes battle mode he could match blockbuster at that strength.

Colossus could easily do the same and bfr hawkman(who is not allowed flight)

Hawkman also has more strength feats and even grappled with wonder woman....

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
How strong is Hawkman?

Strong enough. Especially in Berserker mode. A more important question is, how much does Colossus weigh?

thingy150
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Strong enough. Especially in Berserker mode. A more important question is, how much does Colossus weigh?

Colossus can bfr him also dont act like this is exclusive to hawkman. Most likely He will not go into battle mode because he only did once but he could. Both can eat shots from the other....

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Strong enough. Especially in Berserker mode. A more important question is, how much does Colossus weigh?

Show me some strength fts. Also, has he bfred anyone? Also, how fast Is Hawkman?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Show me some strength fts. Also, has he bfred anyone? Also, how fast Is Hawkman?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3212723-the+savage+hawkman+%282011-%29+020-015.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3212721-the+savage+hawkman+%282011-%29+020-016.jpg

A strength feat, AND a BFR feat, all in one handy package.

Some more. This was from Savage Hawkman 20, when he had fully given himself over to the Nth metal:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3212711-the+savage+hawkman+%282011-%29+020-010.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3212712-the+savage+hawkman+%282011-%29+020-011.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3212713-the+savage+hawkman+%282011-%29+020-012.jpg

In case you're wondering, there were two guys who look like Blockbuster, so don't get confused.

DarkSaint85
Also:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3212714-the+savage+hawkman+%282011-%29+020-013.jpg

DarkSaint85
You also asked for speed. Problem is, as with most characters, (especially new ones), a lot of their feats can be explained away by aim dodging.

I will post them anyway, and you can decide yourself.

Dodging lightning:
http://i.imgur.com/cD9bvQR.png

Using his shield to block bullets:
http://i.imgur.com/KVT9sIw.png

carver9
How often has he given in to the metal? Also, did he chase after Blockbuster after bfring him?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
How often has he given in to the metal? Also, did he chase after Blockbuster after bfring him?

Hehe, I knew you would try that - getting predictable. No, he did NOT chase after him - GL Simon Baz brought him down from wherever he was. If you try reading some respect threads, they say blockbuster was punched into low orbit, but personally I don't believe it (even if it would help my case). So a BFR in all senses of the word.

Hawkman was cancelled after this issue (#20). As you can see, he was definitely different from earlier in his series, when he was just learning about the Nth metal and what he could do with it (and was even referenced about his learning in the Deathstroke fight). Later on I can post more scans of his learning journey, if you want.

So to answer your question, how often? Well, he only did it in extreme situations, so once. The rest of the time, his Nth metal was good enough to let him fight (here's Savage #18, so near the end):

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3211235-savagehawkman_18_thegroup-015.jpg

Almost GL-like in its creation.

thingy150
I have seen carver vote against hawkman a lot, funny that he has read no new 52 hawkman. When I do not know much about a character I do research before I decide on who would beat them in a fight.

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