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Who is the greatest lightsaber duelist in the Sw mythos. Is it Luke or Yoda?

Going with Luke, but Yoda is indeed a close second.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Who is the greatest lightsaber duelist in the Sw mythos.
Mace or Sidious. Anyway, Luke.

Hmm, Sidious was bested in sabers by non-prime Luke and Yoda (according to RotS script). He is a close 3rd/4th best IMO, though.

Luke was being helped by Leia tbh, and he still isn't the best in the mythos by the time of FotJ. One of the best, sure, but not the best. As for RotS's script, haven't seen it, but I'm all for seeing it.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Luke was being helped by Leia tbh, and he still isn't the best in the mythos by the time of FotJ. One of the best, sure, but not the best. As for RotS's script, haven't seen it, but I'm all for seeing it.
Leia only helped him in the force part of the fight. Sabers was all Luke.

The script you'll find online, no prob. I think parts of it where posted on the forums too, but long ago so it would involve some digging up.

To be absolutely honest, all three are the absolute top tier in sabers.

Yoda disarmed Sidious and it fits in with what we see in the film. So if you think Sidious>Luke then it would make sense that Yoda is also better than Luke. As far as Mace goes he can't compete with them in a serious contest and expect to win without a serious Vaapad boost

@ Bantha, I'm not sure if your post was directed at me?

I think in sabers Yoda > Sidious, Luke > Sidious, and finally Luke > Yoda, but the differences are minute.

Originally posted by Stigma
Leia only helped him in the force part of the fight. Sabers was all Luke.

Nope, Leia allowed Luke's mind and allowed him to focus more. If Luke was even marginally better than Sidious in sabers during DE, he should have dismissed many of his opponents that he struggled with shortly afterwards with minimal ease. But he doesn't. As to the rest, okay, and yeah they are.

Luke wins this one.

GM Luke will beat Yoda. Mostly because he's good enough to outlast him. Yoda can't keep up that Ataru barrage forever, and Yoda's not good enough to disarm Luke. A stalemate works in Luke's favor.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nope, Leia allowed Luke's mind and allowed him to focus more.

Have any proof?

Originally posted by ares834
Have any proof?
"As Leia's intensity continues to unlock unexpected resources in Luke...."

That means, Leia was unlocking resources before, that's how you continue things. You have to start them first.

When is that stated?

However, if it comes after word then she clearly was not amping Luke during the duel, as seen in the audio drama, as it isn't clarified when she began.

Luke is the slightly superior duelist.

Unless Yoda has a good answer for Luke's Soresu letting Yoda wear himself out, I don't see how Yoda takes this.

In a battle between mostly equals, the guy with more stamina wins, and Luke's style takes a lot less energy.

^Even if it didn't Luke has way more stamina. Prime Yoda vs. Luke would be a very interesting fight though considering Yoda had 'lost a step' since his prime and he had an inferior TK.

Originally posted by ares834
When is that stated?

However, if it comes after word then she clearly was not amping Luke during the duel, as seen in the audio drama, as it isn't clarified when she began.
Except it says continues. That means she had to start at a certain point. During said duel. Luke didn't realise Leia was aiding him, which is also said. Either way, Luke wasn't a saber god after DE, he certainly wasn't one during DE. That said, he certainly is during FotJ.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Except it says continues. That means she had to start at a certain point. During said duel. Luke didn't realise Leia was aiding him, which is also said.

Just because it says "continues" that does not mean that she began to do so during the duel. It could have happened after as well. And the audio drama makes it clear she wasn't amping him until after the duel.

Originally posted by ares834
Just because it says "continues" that does not mean that she began to do so during the duel. It could have happened after as well. And the audio drama makes it clear she wasn't amping him until after the duel.
Dude, she's glowing during the fight.

How much better is Prime Yoda then ROTS (or even TPM) Yoda?

Theoretically, TPM Yoda>ROTS Yoda, cause he's a few years younger.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Dude, she's glowing during the fight.

It's the shitty art. Characters "glow" through out the series.

And, while that may have been the original intention, the audio drama makes it absolutely clear that she did not amp Luke until after the duel.

Nah, Luke gets smacked down. She starts glowing, Luke cuts his hand off. She closes her eyes and everything. Luke and Palpatine are not glowing during the fight. Leia doesn't amp Luke after the fight either, at that point, she's supposed to be linking herself and Luke with Anakin to cut Palpatine off from the Force. Not to mention, doesn't Luke rediscover most of the lost saber forms after DE?

After the fight she adds her powers to Luke to help him make Sidious lose control of his force storms. She "adds" her powers to his, but only after Luke has defeated Sheev in a duel. This is all clearly stated in the audio drama. I'm going to take the clear statements over your interpretation of some ambiguous lines and shitty art.

That's not what I said. Luke is not amped at any point during the fight or after. However, while Luke is fighting Palpatine, Leia is unclouding his mind and allowing Luke to tap into his own potential. That's also said. Luke went from getting his ass handed to him, to cutting Palpatine's hand off. All with Leia's help.

Helping Luke focus is, for all intents and purposes, an amp. That said, she isn't helping during the duel. Afterwords, she adds her power to his. Before hand, she "unclouds" his mind freeing him from the dark side. During the duel, nada. She just watches in amazement.

How do you watch with your eyes closed, head bent, and yourself glowing? You can think what you want, though. We obviously aren't getting anywhere with this.

Like I said the art is shit. Multiple times we see characters glow.

From the audio drama, "But we can Luke. We can do it. That's what the holocron meant. Let me add my power to yours."

Seems to be clear that Leia wasn't helping Luke until after the duel.

Luke's DE performance isn't at issue here, because if all Leia did was 'unlock his potential' and 'help him concentrate', then Luke achieved that potential on his own at the point we're pitting him against Yoda.

In short, the amp Leia gave him didn't do anything for him he can't do by himself now.

I think what Freshest said makes sense.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Luke went from getting his ass handed to him, to cutting Palpatine's hand off.
The first fight happened on Byss, a Dark Side nexus, so advantage to Palpatine.

The next battle was on neutral ground IIRC.

Originally posted by ares834
Helping Luke focus is, for all intents and purposes, an amp. That said, she isn't helping during the duel. Afterwords, she adds her power to his. Before hand, she "unclouds" his mind freeing him from the dark side. During the duel, nada. She just watches in amazement.