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Hmm.

As of now, I'm thinking:

Mace > HoT
Maul > Bane
Dooku > Revan

edit: Wait, sabers only? Team 1, no explanation needed tbh.

Everyone on team 1 is better than everyone on team 2.

In team 2 there iz only Revan who iz a match for all of them Bane iz great really great but... Not enough....

Revan>Dooku... Imagine Dooku in more dynamic, younger, even more verztil and who ztill on hiz prime... You have darth Revan.

There iz only ztrategy and uzing of the environement that can provide a win for team 2....

Originally posted by AncientPower
Everyone on team 1 is better than everyone on team 2.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Everyone on team 1 is better than everyone on team 2.

No-one here is better than Orbalisk Bane, Mace might beat him only with shatterpoint and vaapad.

Bane requires Orbalisks to do well, eh?

Inb4 Neph's crappy reasoning

Team 1 wins

Originally posted by NewGuy01
edit: Wait, sabers only? Team 1, no explanation needed tbh.

Is this a strictly martial arts based confrontation or the Force-users are allowed to use the Force to augment their effectiveness?

inb4 carthage/jack says it doesn't matter because team 2 is featless.

No one ever said they were featless facepalm, that's why one takes you seriously. Bane would get destroyed by anyone on team 2. Revan can't carry his team and Hero isn't all that great of a duelist either.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Everyone on team 1 is better than everyone on team 2.

Orbalisk Bane beats Maul and Dooku, certainly.

Pretty sure the description says no amplifications.

Surely that doesn't count, it's equipment. It says peak.

He's beat them even without it though.

The Kaiburr crystal could be considered equipment for Vader, too.

Team 1 crushes

Originally posted by NewGuy01
The Kaiburr crystal could be considered equipment for Vader, too.

That's non-standard for him. Plus Vader isn't in the thread. I mean if we're going there then a sith's lightsaber crystal also amplifies their power. But I doubt they'll be fighting with their bare hands.

Apologies, I actually thought Vader was in the thread.

Well, the fight specifically says there are sabers though, so I think that's an exception...

Maul = Revan
Mace > Bane
Dooku < HoT

Darth Maul is practically Revan's assassin-like reflection. They're both one of the most skilled and powerful of Force users. Darth Maul took on Mace Windu and forced him onto the defensive while he had Aayla Secura's help (even though Maul roundhoused her out of the picture.)

Darth Bane would fall to Mace. Though he's very powerful physically and in the Force, he's kind of too self-destructive a fighter without realizing before it's too late to avoid the painful consequences. And given Mace's mastery of Vaapad, he's a living anti-darkness weapon.

Dooku, while very skilled and delicate, probably couldn't last forever against HoT's own skill, power, experience, and energy.

In the end, it would boil down to:

Darth Maul and Mace Windu vs. Revan and HoT

I want to say it's a draw, but I'm not certain. I think the victory of this battle depends on either Mace or HoT's fall. So, the question stands:

Would Mace Windu or the Hero of Tython prevail in a duel against one another?

Revan > Dooku
HoT > Mace
Bane < Maul

Revan is the best swordsman out of everyone here, his ability to augment himself with the Light side and the Dark side simultaneously is unparalleled, and he possesses the best displays of Precognition out of everyone here. He is extremely skilled, and is a master of all lightsaber forms, Dooku's main advantage of skill will be neutralized when facing Revan who possesses superior skill in saber combat.

HoT trumps Mace is raw power, ferocity, and is a unparalleled Light Side power house that Mace will be unable to utilize Vaapad against

Bane, yeah.

Originally posted by Convolution
Maul = Revan in sabers


In what universe does Revan have saber feats equivalent to those of Maul's, really?

The one where he beat dozens of Dark Jedi, then Bastila, then dozens of droids, then Malak.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The one where he beat dozens of Dark Jedi, then Bastila, then dozens of droids, then Malak.

Implying he didn't use the Force to do any of that, which he probably did.

I never implied at all he didn't use the Force for "any of that", lmfao.

Even if he did it all purely through his saber skills, which is unlikely, it's still not = to Maul's showings. All in all, he's probably not too far behind, though.

What are Maul's showings? Beating Jinn, Kenobi, and Anoon, and then getting his ass kicked by the PT version of Vodo?

Mid-diff'ing one of the most skilled swordsmen in history and trashing elite MagnaGuards like nobody's business is fairly impressive on it's own, as is having skills considered by Palpatine to be unparalleled. The dude's also a good bit faster and stronger, to boot-Maul's immensely good at what he does, tbh.

Imperial Guard >> MagnaGuards, lol.

Hardly. And even then, Maul trashing four of them at once is still better than Revan cutting down a lone guard.

Shaak Ti trashed way more then Maul did, and she is still a pre-Jedi Galen level tier duelist even with an amp.

Heh, if you want to play that game Grievous defeated Shaak Ti, Ki-Adi Mundi, and Ayala Secura--three of the Order's best--simultaneously while fending off other masters. Maul topped the General in SoD, which clearly puts him above and beyond Revan's caliber.

*Aayla

Also, Mundi has three hyphens. Ki-Adi-Mundi. Get your shit together, Sas.

Maul never beat Grievous in a duel. His two victories over Grievous were via Force powers, one of which he completed on a nexus.

Ho, I forgot about the nexus, you got me there.

Still, he's consistently evenly matched with Kenobi, who did defeat Grievous in neutral setting.

Arguments get weaker every character you pass by to prove a point: Maul -> Kenobi -> Grievous -> Ti -> Guard versus Revan -> Guard, tbh
That being said, Grievous' victory over the three Jedi are circumstantial between how exhausted the Jedi were and that they never fought his form.

Kit hadn't faced Grievous's before they day they fought either, nor had Koth. Since when is a fight only fair when one side has a working knowledge of the other's fighting style?

All combatants of the Jedi are trained with basic knowledge of the first 6 forms, to my knowledge (correct me if I'm wrong).
This is compared to going up against someone like Grievous who's entire battle proficiency depends on fear and unpredictability
I'm not classifying the circumstances behind Grievous' victory over the team an example of his capabilities under normal terms and conditions.

Revan can hold his own against any of them, but Bane gets stomped against anyone he fights and Hero can't beat them either.

He can't carry his team

Originally posted by carthage
Revan can hold his own against any of them, but Bane gets stomped against anyone he fights and Hero can't beat them either.

He can't carry his team

Revan's precognition allows him to 3v1, he kills Mace instantly with the Force, kills Maul with sheer saber precognition, and then stomps Dooku solo.

Bane and HoT watch with Awe.

That's the least sensible thing I have ever heard in my entire life.

This is sabers only, Boardie.

Fine Sabers only.

Revan channels the absolute entire dark side and light side simultaneously, becomes his future self "The Father" and absolutely multiverse stomps Windu and Dooku and Maul simultaneously with only his augmented saber skills.

HoT and Bane watch with such awe and utter enlightenment that they become one with the force for the duration that Revan stomps the enemy team.