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Both are probably top dog on average in their respected universe. Pre-Crisis Brainiac 5 has built some uber devices (Concentrator/Miracle Machine) and can learn anything on the fly. Who wins in a prep war? Who is smarter?

Pre-Crisis Brainiac 5
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Zero Hour
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vs

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Reed.

Pym ftw

Reed

Originally posted by Supermex
Reed

Reasoning?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Reasoning? He's smarter.

I'd say they're about even.

Reed. his invention can defeat Cosmic Being.

Originally posted by CatL18
Reed. his invention can defeat Cosmic Being.

The Miracle Machine was able to effect the multiverse and cosmics as well.

Originally posted by Golgo13
The Miracle Machine was able to effect the multiverse and cosmics as well. He didn't create the MM.

Originally posted by Mindset
He didn't create the MM.

Yeah, he built it from the plans that he got from the Controllers, but he did build the Concentrator from scratch, a machine that can take every joule of energy in the UNIVERSE and do what he wishes with it.

He's also bested the Time Trapper (Entropy incarnate), brought back Dream Girl from the dead, and understood the science behind the MM, bested beings that are abstract/god level, so, he's definitely up there.

Pre-crisis shenanigans, man. Beastly as Reed is - and we all know he sets the pace for prep cheese - Brainy's best few feats are just irreplicable in modern comics, because writers are bound by some semblance of logic and believability.

I didn't think it would be possible for Golgo to find a match for Reed in this "prep" series he's been doing recently. There's only 3-4 that could even make it a close match. But it seems I may be wrong.

Originally posted by Digi
Pre-crisis shenanigans, man. Beastly as Reed is - and we all know he sets the pace for prep cheese - Brainy's best few feats are just irreplicable in modern comics, because writers are bound by some semblance of logic and believability.

I didn't think it would be possible for Golgo to find a match for Reed in this "prep" series he's been doing recently. There's only 3-4 that could even make it a close match. But it seems I may be wrong.

heheh

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/EG_zpsnsuaintb.gif

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Pym ftw
This.
Thread title is false advertising!

But between the two non Supremes i'd back Reed.

Pym turns left and c*ckslaps these lesser minds.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Pym turns left and c*ckslaps these lesser minds.

No. Lets not get crazy.

Originally posted by Digi
Pre-crisis shenanigans, man. Beastly as Reed is - and we all know he sets the pace for prep cheese - Brainy's best few feats are just irreplicable in modern comics, because writers are bound by some semblance of logic and believability.

I didn't think it would be possible for Golgo to find a match for Reed in this "prep" series he's been doing recently. There's only 3-4 that could even make it a close match. But it seems I may be wrong. He's not trying to find matches for anything, he's trying to make DC look better in every category (science, telepathy, etc) even to the point of forgoing sleep.

You kinda gave him what he wanted with this post

Smh. I've made a bunch of good threads. Don't get angry because dc edged out marvel in most categories.

IF they did you made them that way, this one here is an example of it, you even put pro-Braniac stuff in the first post.

The crazy part is that you're doing this in ever increasing volume and blatancy. Most people would slow down after a few years but you're doing the opposite

Originally posted by psycho gundam
IF they did you made them that way, this one here is an example of it, you even put pro-Braniac stuff in the first post.

The crazy part is that you're doing this in ever increasing volume and blatancy. Most people would slow down after a few years but you're doing the opposite

You don't think this is a good match? Both characters are super geniuses, both have defeated universal, sometimes multiversal threats, both have created some Uber tech, etc...

What's the big deal?

I dont see the problem.

Braniac's feats out class anything Reed has ever done in his entire comic history, there is no comparison for the accomplishments Braniac has attained throughout his comic history.

Reed is very high up the "Prep" hierarchy but he is surpassed by a few individuals, one of those being Braniac while another is Constantine.

I still say Reed is smarter. He's doing comarable things with tech a thousand years less advanced.

Reed

Originally posted by riv6672
I still say Reed is smarter. He's doing comarable things with tech a thousand years less advanced.

That is true. The main reason brainiac might have an edge is because he has access to future tech and understands even futuristic tech. It's not all about tech in a prep battle though. Both characters can deliver. It's all about who is more clever in using said tech. Both characters can deliver, so I don't see an edge for either character when all things are said and done.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
IF they did you made them that way, this one here is an example of it, you even put pro-Braniac stuff in the first post.

The crazy part is that you're doing this in ever increasing volume and blatancy. Most people would slow down after a few years but you're doing the opposite

Then again all the Braniacs we have seen are merely "fragments" of the True Braniac, who has been rumored to be omniversal in power and scope.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Smh. I've made a bunch of good threads. Don't get angry because dc edged out marvel in most categories.

Da** lie. 98% of your threads are spite threads. You're still my buddy though.

Originally posted by carver9
Da** lie. 98% of your threads are spite threads. You're still my buddy though.

You make me cry. I try my best. You're my bro, too.

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/HG_zpsludbbpbr.gif

Originally posted by Golgo13
You make me cry. I try my best. You're my bro, too.

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/HG_zpsludbbpbr.gif

Nice.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Reed

Originally posted by Golgo13
You make me cry. I try my best. You're my bro, too.

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/HG_zpsludbbpbr.gif

Sorry bro. Will not talk about your thread anymore and I know you try.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
He's not trying to find matches for anything, he's trying to make DC look better in every category (science, telepathy, etc) even to the point of forgoing sleep.

You kinda gave him what he wanted with this post

Meh, whatever. If he's doing this, it's pathetic in its own right. If his pecker wiggled a little when I endorsed Brainy, I'm not going to worry about it.

I'll keep an eye out for it, though. I just thought it was a prep fight. But I suppose a lot of things devolve into favoritism anymore in vs. threads. I don't pay enough attention to say whether or not that's what it is, but it's unfortunate that the possibility of it - true or not - is marring the debate.

Originally posted by Digi
Meh, whatever. If he's doing this, it's pathetic in its own right. If his pecker wiggled a little when I endorsed Brainy, I'm not going to worry about it.

I'll keep an eye out for it, though. I just thought it was a prep fight. But I suppose a lot of things devolve into favoritism anymore in vs. threads. I don't pay enough attention to say whether or not that's what it is, but it's unfortunate that the possibility of it - true or not - is marring the debate.

Psycho is just wrong. For one, I don't know every character that I post, so the chances of it being lopsided is there. I know a crap load of characters, but I'm not perfect.

Second, this IS a good prep fight, even if you take into consideration this is a Pre-Crisis version of brainiac. Reed has built god dang pocket UNIVERSES. That is not grounded, IMO.

Ok. It's just, it seems like every time I wade into a vs. thread, something sours it. Whether or not it's a bias on your part, the fact that someone is saying something so strongly against your posting tendencies means you're either actually displaying a bias, or doing a horrible job coming across as someone who just wants to know the outcomes of fights. Either way, I'm now replying to this bullsh*t, and listening to you guys call each other liars when all I wanted to do is see some prep debating.

Originally posted by Digi
Ok. It's just, it seems like every time I wade into a vs. thread, something sours it. Whether or not it's a bias on your part, the fact that someone is saying something so strongly against your posting tendencies means you're either actually displaying a bias, or doing a horrible job coming across as someone who just wants to know the outcomes of fights. Either way, I'm now replying to this bullsh*t, and listening to you guys call each other liars when all I wanted to do is see some prep debating.

Well, if you notice YOU'RE the only one in this thread who came up with a reasoning. Nobody else could actually state WHY it's a lopsided thread and MOST people here picked Reed Richards, even though they gave NO reasoning.

I'm looking for valid arguments for BOTH characters. When I ask, "WHY IS THIS LOPSIDED", Most of the time nobody gives me a good answer. If you don't believe me, look through my past threads.

But, if you (and others) think I'm lying, then i'll walk from this board. Seriously, I will. I'll leave you to the other biased posters, Quanchi and Board Walker.

This is not a spite thread.

I don't think anyone in this site is in position of calling someone a fanboy. With a few exceptions, of course.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
This is not a spite thread.

I don't think anyone in this site is in position of calling someone a fanboy. With a few exceptions, of course.

Thank you. Voice of reasoning, right here.

Digimark2015 - Pecker-wiggler extraordinaire

Originally posted by Golgo13
Well, if you notice YOU'RE the only one in this thread who came up with a reasoning. Nobody else could actually state WHY it's a lopsided thread and MOST people here picked Reed Richards, even though they gave NO reasoning.

I'm looking for valid arguments for BOTH characters. When I ask, "WHY IS THIS LOPSIDED", Most of the time nobody gives me a good answer. If you don't believe me, look through my past threads.

But, if you (and others) think I'm lying, then i'll walk from this board. Seriously, I will. I'll leave you to the other biased posters, Quanchi and Board Walker.

Please stop with the drama and name-calling. I no longer give a sh*t about the fight, or your war of words with whatever other posters want to turn each thread into a turf war. I directly said I don't pay enough attention to know or care what your biases are, but that the way you handle yourself is more important. And now I'm being asked to weigh in on your innocence or falsehood, with your existence on the forum at stake?! Jesus ****ing Christ.

I don't think you're a liar, and I'm not entering into that debate anyway. But I don't think it's imprudent advice to suggest you critically analyze your approach in threads to see why people might say such things of you. Whether or not they're right, that criticism exists, and you'll likely have an easier time in threads if you understand where it's coming from.

Originally posted by Digi
Please stop with the drama and name-calling. I no longer give a sh*t about the fight, or your war of words with whatever other posters want to turn each thread into a turf war. I directly said I don't pay enough attention to know or care what your biases are, but that the way you handle yourself is more important. And now I'm being asked to weigh in on your innocence or falsehood, with your existence on the forum at stake?! Jesus ****ing Christ.

I don't think you're a liar, and I'm not entering into that debate anyway. But I don't think it's imprudent advice to suggest you critically analyze your approach in threads to see why people might say such things of you. Whether or not they're right, that criticism exists, and you'll likely have an easier time in threads if you understand where it's coming from.

If you read it carefully, I'm giving you praise, since you're one of the only ones here who give actual answers. When did I name call you anything?

Originally posted by Digi
Ok. It's just, it seems like every time I wade into a vs. thread, something sours it. Whether or not it's a bias on your part, the fact that someone is saying something so strongly against your posting tendencies means you're either actually displaying a bias, or doing a horrible job coming across as someone who just wants to know the outcomes of fights. Either way, I'm now replying to this bullsh*t, and listening to you guys call each other liars when all I wanted to do is see some prep debating. Reported for backseat modding.

Originally posted by Golgo13
If you read it carefully, I'm giving you praise, since you're one of the only ones here who give actual answers. When did I name call you anything?

Not me. Dragging others into your post who aren't even taking part in this thread.

And I understood it as praise. And I didn't give a sh*t, because of the reasons I stated.

Originally posted by Digi
Not me. Dragging others into your post who aren't even taking part in this thread.

And I understood it as praise. And I didn't give a sh*t, because of the reasons I stated.

I made you blush. Don't lie.

Originally posted by Galan007
Reported for backseat modding.

If only I could be banned. I could use a vacation, but when it's available, it's like the box of Cheeze-Its in the cupboard. I could leave it alone for a week. But we all know it'll be in my stomach within the day.

Originally posted by Digi
If only I could be banned. I could use a vacation, but when it's available, it's like the box of Cheeze-Its in the cupboard. I could leave it alone for a week. But we all know it'll be in my stomach within the day.
Talking about wiggling Golgo's pecker again?

smh....

Originally posted by Digi
If only I could be banned. I could use a vacation, but when it's available, it's like the box of Cheeze-Its in the cupboard. I could leave it alone for a week. But we all know it'll be in my stomach within the day. http://i.imgur.com/PTsw3vI.gif

Originally posted by Golgo13
I made you blush. Don't lie.

Aaaand now we're here. Lovely chat, this.

I was the one who mentioned your junk a page ago. My threshold for blushing is pretty damn high. I'm also not unused to praise from other members. I'm pretty awesome. Next time send nudes and I'll acknowledge you.

Anyway:

Originally posted by Digi
I don't think you're a liar. But I don't think it's imprudent advice to suggest you critically analyze your approach in threads to see why people might say such things of you. Whether or not they're right, that criticism exists, and you'll likely have an easier time in threads if you understand where it's coming from.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Talking about wiggling Golgo's pecker again?

smh....

Originally posted by Digi
Aaaand now we're here. Lovely chat, this.

I was the one who mentioned your junk a page ago. My threshold for blushing is pretty damn high. I'm also not unused to praise from other members. I'm pretty awesome. Next time send nudes and I'll acknowledge you.

Anyway:

It's really only a few posters that are after me. I don't really care, either way. They don't like it? There are other posts they can contribute to.

Shut up, Prep. Digi clearly hates you.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
IF they did you made them that way, this one here is an example of it, you even put pro-Braniac stuff in the first post.

The crazy part is that you're doing this in ever increasing volume and blatancy. Most people would slow down after a few years but you're doing the opposite

it's sorta your fault too, for actually acknowledging his work, your giving him fuel to go on.

Originally posted by Galan007
Shut up, Prep. Digi clearly hates you.

I'm the god damn prep man!

Originally posted by Galan007
Digi clearly hates you all.

Fixed.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Psycho is just wrong. For one, I don't know every character that I post, so the chances of it being lopsided is there. I know a crap load of characters, but I'm not perfect.

Second, this IS a good prep fight, even if you take into consideration this is a Pre-Crisis version of brainiac. Reed has built god dang pocket UNIVERSES. That is not grounded, IMO. Pocket universe or pocket dimension?

Lol...Golgo is a good guy and it's obvious he doesn't mean any harm. I just dont think he knows a lot about Marvel characters, but, the guy never starts trouble, at all.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Golgo is a good guy and it's obvious he doesn't mean any harm. I just dont think he knows a lot about Marvel characters, but, the guy never starts trouble, at all.

When I was younger all I ever did was read marvel. Ghost rider, Deathshead, spiderman, New Warriors, Marvel UK, and of course my favorite property, wolverine/ X-Men. However, I stopped reading Marvel pretty much full time when Grant Morrison quit writing New X-Men. Around the same time Joe Casey did his X-MEN run and Claremont did X-Treme X-men. I admit I only read Iron Fist and a an event here and there, so I'm not up to date with many of the characters.

I also used to moderate the X-men boards over at XFan, for people who know that site. The owner is Australian.

Oh, and Hulk too. PADs run was spectacular.

Originally posted by Digi
If only I could be banned. I could use a vacation, but when it's available, it's like the box of Cheeze-Its in the cupboard. I could leave it alone for a week. But we all know it'll be in my stomach within the day. Phuck yes!

What is going on in this thread?

Originally posted by Golgo13
When I was younger all I ever did was read marvel. Ghost rider, Deathshead, spiderman, New Warriors, Marvel UK, and of course my favorite property, wolverine/ X-Men. However, I stopped reading Marvel pretty much full time when Grant Morrison quit writing New X-Men. Around the same time Joe Casey did his X-MEN run and Claremont did X-Treme X-men. I admit I only read Iron Fist and a an event here and there, so I'm not up to date with many of the characters.

I also used to moderate the X-men boards over at XFan, for people who know that site. The owner is Australian. Why do you usually make DC stomp threads doe?

Originally posted by Mindset
Why do you usually make DC stomp threads doe?

I guess I just overestimate Marvel's chances.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I guess I just overestimate Marvel's chances. Yea.

Spectre vs Captain America, who wins?

In a battle of wills? Cap.

Originally posted by riv6672
In a battle of wills? Cap.

Originally posted by Mindset
Why do you usually make DC stomp threads doe? http://www.hercampus.com/sites/default/files/2014/12/09/82066d1410664885-stock-headlights-tail-lights-06-magnum-srt8-kermit_0.jpg

Originally posted by riv6672
In a battle of wills? Cap.

Originally posted by Digi
I'm also not unused to praise from other members.

Another lie. Reported.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Another lie. Reported. lol

Haha

When Digi comes in and lays a verbal smack down I always imagine him as this heel wrestler that's also a fan favorite. Like two no names will be shoving each other in the ring, then he comes running out with a chair and just starts beating them senseless and the crowd loves it while Jim Ross is just flipping out.

Jim Ross: "AHHH DAMMIT IT'S THAT DAMN DIGI AGAIN! DAMMIT TO HELL, DAMMIT TO HELL!!"

Co Host: "The crowd loves him, that's the face of a legend! Look at him just being smart about whittling down the competition."

JR: "WHITTLING DOWN?! HE'S A DAMN LEGEND, A 38 TIME WORLD CHAMPION, AND THESE GUYS ARE UPANCOMERS, DOES HE REALLY NEED TO USE A DAMNED CHAIR?! OH MY GOD DON'T DO IT OH MY GOD! HE KEEPS BEATING THEM, AND THAT STEEL CHAIR STRAIGHT TO THE SKULL OF GOLGO DEAR GOD DEAR GOD!!! HE'S BROKEN HIM IN HALF! DAMMIT TO HELL DIGI!! YOU'RE A MONSTER, A MERCILESS MONSTER!!!"

CH: "He's raining chair shots down like strikes from an angry Thor, that chair is basically his Mjolnir! JR isn't this what you'd call a 'slobber knocker?'"

JR: "DAMMIT THIS IS A SLAUGHTER, A DAMNED SLAUGHTER, ENOUGH'S ENOUGH! HE'S BUSTED THEM WIDE OPEN, GOLGO'S BLEEDING LIKE A STUCK PIG!!"

An Digi stops for a second to pick up a mic and is like

"The competition, in this ring, fills me with a sense of ennui *drops mic and hits Golgo with another chair shot before leaving the ring*."

Originally posted by Yamcha
When Digi comes in and lays a verbal smack down I always imagine him as this heel wrestler that's also a fan favorite. Like two no names will be shoving each other in the ring, then he comes running out with a chair and just starts beating them senseless and the crowd loves it while Jim Ross is just flipping out.

Jim Ross: "AHHH DAMMIT IT'S THAT DAMN DIGI AGAIN! DAMMIT TO HELL, DAMMIT TO HELL!!"

Co Host: "The crowd loves him, that's the face of a legend! Look at him just being smart about whittling down the competition."

JR: "WHITTLING DOWN?! HE'S A DAMN LEGEND, A 38 TIME WORLD CHAMPION, AND THESE GUYS ARE UPANCOMERS, DOES HE REALLY NEED TO USE A DAMNED CHAIR?! OH MY GOD DON'T DO IT OH MY GOD! HE KEEPS BEATING THEM, AND THAT STEEL CHAIR STRAIGHT TO THE SKULL OF GOLGO DEAR GOD DEAR GOD!!! HE'S BROKEN HIM IN HALF! DAMMIT TO HELL DIGI!! YOU'RE A MONSTER, A MERCILESS MONSTER!!!"

CH: "He's raining chair shots down like strikes from an angry Thor, that chair is basically his Mjolnir! JR isn't this what you'd call a 'slobber knocker?'"

JR: "DAMMIT THIS IS A SLAUGHTER, A DAMNED SLAUGHTER, ENOUGH'S ENOUGH! HE'S BUSTED THEM WIDE OPEN, GOLGO'S BLEEDING LIKE A STUCK PIG!!"

An Digi stops for a second to pick up a mic and is like

"The competition, in this ring, fills me with a sense of ennui *drops mic and hits Golgo with another chair shot before leaving the ring*."



Profiling this.

Reed Richards wins...

An alternate Reed defeated the Living Tribunal (and it was canon for the Tribunal)...

Every single alternate reality Doom has been enslaved and beaten by that realities Reed...

Nothing beats a determined Reed with the s**t hits the fan...

Reed wins 10/10...

Stopped reading after...
Originally posted by Golgo13
When I was younger all I ever did was read marvel.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Stopped reading after...

You know it's true.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Reed Richards wins...

An alternate Reed defeated the Living Tribunal (and it was canon for the Tribunal)...

Every single alternate reality Doom has been enslaved and beaten by that realities Reed...

Nothing beats a determined Reed with the s**t hits the fan...

Reed wins 10/10...



Reed wins...

It's not a stomp in any favor, but go ahead and think that.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Stopped reading after...

Originally posted by Golgo13
It's not a stomp in any favor, but go ahead and think that.
Not a stomp but a decisive win for Reed.

Originally posted by riv6672
Not a stomp but a decisive win for Reed.

You can make a case either way, IMO. Both are absurdly intelligent.

True, but i stand by my earlier point, of Reed doing comparable things with tech a thousand years behind Dox.
I mean, who would you think is smarter, the person in 2015 who invents a snogglebarrow, or the person in 1015 who invents its equivalent, the snogglebooboo?

Originally posted by riv6672
True, but i stand by my earlier point, of Reed doing comparable things with tech a thousand years behind Dox.
I mean, who would you think is smarter, the person in 2015 who invents a snogglebarrow, or the person in 1015 who invents its equivalent, the snogglebooboo?

But BOTH characters understand tech that is extremely advanced and futuristic. Dox understood the science behind a machine that can grant the user to do ANYTHING. Even on a multiversal scale.