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Self explanatory, I m'self am really not sure who'd win tbh.

Juubito most likely.

Yeah the Naruto from "the Last" appears to be closer to Full-Partership form than he does his Hagoromo amp. Juubito was solidly stronger than the former.

And if Toneri doesn't use senjutsu then he can't concievably hurt Juubito.

If the gudoudama and eye-pigmentation are any indicator, he probably does in some form--but even if not, we've seen from Sasuke that having Otsutsuki chakra also seems to work fine.

And yeah, Naruto when he fought Toneri is basically as he was when he fought Juubito, but with more experience and greater overall prowess.

So the general consensus is Juubito? I actually thought it would be the opposite, I myself am still not entirely sure.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Self explanatory, I m'self am really not sure who'd win tbh.

Obito imo.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
And if Toneri doesn't use senjutsu then he can't concievably hurt Juubito.

An attack that could cut the Moon in half would hurt Obito, senjutsu chakra or not.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Obito imo.



An attack that could cut the Moon in half would hurt Obito, senjutsu chakra or not. Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Obito imo.



An attack that could cut the Moon in half would hurt Obito, senjutsu chakra or not. i think buubito will win this here

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

An attack that could cut the Moon in half would hurt Obito, senjutsu chakra or not.

Aye. But would it break through his little truth seeking ball barriers?

Slightly off topic but why can't Obito use Kamui in this mode? Legit don't remember if we ever got an explanation.

Prolly because if he did, he'd be invincible.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Aye. But would it break through his little truth seeking ball barriers?

Slightly off topic but why can't Obito use Kamui in this mode? Legit don't remember if we ever got an explanation.

We've seen sufficient force break through the TSB, so yeah, probably.

I think all we got was that his 'intangibility' didn't work because of the Juubi. Madara used Kamui on himself later. srug

So how do we think Toneri would fare against pre-Rikudo Madara?

Sufficient force from taijutsu. The shield held up against multiple Juubidamas without a scratch. And even then Guy never touches the balls.

I'd wager Moon cutting > Juubi's Bijuu damas. uhuh

Forgot about the balls. Apparently Toneri has those, which means he likely has Senjutsu.

Didn't a weaker version of Naruto deflect said moon cutting? Wager Obito could do the same but that might be going along the route of DBZ style power-scaling.

Well, that's not exactly fair considering Naruto at his best is a good bit stronger than Obito ever was.

I agree, though.

Toneri stomps lol
Naruto stated the guy was on Madara level w/rinnegan but minus ten-tails.