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Boba Fett as of Legacy of the Force versus Grievous as of Labyrinth of Evil.

Grievous.

Boba's past his prime by that point. I'd agree with Grievous. A younger Boba might've been able to Batman Grievous, but he's lost too many steps for a non force using 60+ year old.

No, sources state Boba is still in his prime. I saw one two days ago, I forget where it was from though. *shrugs*

"Long thought dead by many, Boba Fett -- possibly the last surviving clone of Jango -- has survived many brushes with death over the years. As the Yuuzhan Vong invade the galaxy, Fett mysteriously reappears with a band of Mandalorian hunters at his side. Fett and his team aid Han Solo and Princess Leia against the Yuuzhan Vong, though as always, Fett's true motivations are unclear. Is he bent merely on hunting the Vong? Or will he join the shattered forces of the Republic and the Jedi he has hated for so long? Heroes encountering Boba Fett during this era will usually find him with four to six other Mandalorians with similar armament, though he alone carries a jet pack. Older and wiser, Boba Fett remains as dangerous as ever. He flies a familiar Firespray-class attack/patrol ship modified to his personal specifications, usually flanked by at least four Mandalorians in Gladiator fighters. Though unpredictable, he may help the heroes if his objectives coincide with his own -- and if the heroes are not Yuuzhan Vong."

That's from NJO... He is quite a bit younger there.

Anyway, this is a bad match up for Grievous, Boba should win it.

Grevious.

Grievous beats the crap out of him.

I'm with Boba all the way.

He just needs to keep his distance.

If he keeps his distance Boba will eventually win. If not, Grievous beheads him.

With what weaponry that he has could Boba possibly harm Grevious with? That and keeping his distance isn't likely, considering how fast Grevious is.

I'm not seeing Boba doing any worthwhile damage to Grievous, personally.

Has Boba got grenades and the like? Either way he wins, all he has to do is keep distance and accurately shoot Grievous' organs.

Grievous can quite easily tank any of Boba's explosives, and his organs are protected by armor. Unless I'm missing something from Boba's Legacy showings...

Originally posted by ILS
I'm not seeing Boba doing any worthwhile damage to Grievous, personally.



Boba isn't good enough to take down GG level combatants without prep time/a plan or additional resources.

Yes he is, lol.

Could you tell us why, Ant? As a big fan of the character I wouldn't mind hearing how Boba would be able to get through armor that laughs off high scale explosions.

His arsenal will be suitable enough to destroy Grievous , and he has enough skill to utterly stomp someone on the level of Kota .

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Scan one is his jetpack missile. Scan two is Boba avoiding starfighter/blaster fire. Scan three is his blaster on one of it's higher settings disintegrating someone. Why does any of this matter to Grievous? Grievous has tanked a rocket going off in his face casually.
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And his armor can also stop several shots from laser cannons, which are designed to take out ground and air vehicles as well as other starfighters and damage military structures.
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Not to mention the time Grievous walked out of being at the center of an explosion which engulfed the best part of an underground city.
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Physical trauma is different from energy resistance, so unless Boba can break Grievous's armor with his bare hands or the Force, or has explosive output superior to what is posted above, I fail to see how Windu's Force crush feat is relevant. Great feat for Windu, though.

/ Punching out Kota is a great feat considering Kota's own formidable status as a powerful Jedi. Only problem is Kota can't hold a candle to Grievous, and even if Boba was good enough to get past Grievous's lightsabers and punch him, he'd sooner break his hand than actually damage Grievous.

Grievous's physical capabilities vastly exceed Boba's, as well as his melee skill armed and unarmed, and his armor is more than enough to wade through any of Boba's armament that isn't dodged or deflected.

Grievous wrecks.

Originally posted by ILS
Only problem is Kota can't hold a candle to Grievous
I'll respond to the rest later since like I said: studying, but this one caught my eye and made me laugh.
Kota has way better feats then majority of the Jedi that Grievous fights in The Clone Wars, easily.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'll respond to the rest later since like I said: studying, but this one caught my eye and made me laugh.
Kota has way better feats then majority of the Jedi that Grievous fights in The Clone Wars, easily. Like getting oneshotted by Boba Fett?

Jokes aside, I eagerly await your response.

Tbh looking at that one scan and then looking at other things. That seems to be an incredible low showing for Kota. I mean, I know that characters do have low showings, but that's just really low considering what Kota has done...he just like, ran into the fist pretty much.

More of a skill showing for Boba, IMO. He's exceptional as far as non-Force users go, like his Dad. Not to mention Boba would give a Jango-Fett-impersonating Proxy a decent fight just after landing that punch.

Right but....Kota just literally ran into the fist. I'm not saying Boba isn't skilled but...that's what is shown.

Boba placed his fist in Kota's path, my friend.

Which Kota ran into and considering what Kota has been able to do before, it's kinda a low showing for him. I mean I accept it, but it's still a low showing.

At any rate, kinda derailing the topic. So were good in that Boba can't beat Grevious? Alright then.

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I don't see Boba being able to hurt Grievous. Like Durge, he'll be defeated and eventually killed by the General.

Boba had rockets and a flamethrower... How is that not going to hurt Grievous?

...because he's already shrugged off worse?

A flamethrower is going to devastate his unprotected organics and I have my doubts that he going to survive a direct rocket strike.

Did you see what I posted on the page before? The explosions Grievous has tanked without noticeable damage outstrip anything Boba's wrist-rockets or flamethrower can produce.

And his organs are protected. The only time they've been unprotected is when Kenobi literally yanked Grievous's armor open, or when Windu crushed it.

Not at all. There are still gaps in the armor. Plus his eye sockets are exposed.

Also he clearly dodged that missile as his cape is completely unharmed in the next shot.

If there were true gaps in his armor then explain how his organs weren't incinerated after this:
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There was also an episode of TCW where Grievous walks out of the center of a starfighter explosion.

There's nothing really to say. We see these gaps in his armor, most noticeably when Kenobi sticks his fingers into them to rip of the chest plate.

So even though there is overwhelming amounts of evidence to suggest massive explosions, to say nothing of a flamethrower, have little effect on Grievous, we're just going to roll with the idea that Boba's will work?

Sweet.

Also, it's made clear in various source material that Grievous' organs are fully protected.

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ILS, I will be able to enter this debate on Thursday (as some know, I used to love Boba way more then Revan). I'll bookmark the page until then.

How is Turkey these days?

Originally posted by ILS
So even though there is overwhelming amounts of evidence to suggest massive explosions, to say nothing of a flamethrower, have little effect on Grievous, we're just going to roll with the idea that Boba's will work?

Sweet.

Nope. There is a large difference between an explosion and a sustained flame. Nor have I seen anything to suggest he can take a direct rocket to the gut or face.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
ILS, I will be able to enter this debate on Thursday (as some know, I used to love Boba way more then Revan). I'll bookmark the page until then. Alright.

Originally posted by ares834
Nope. There is a large difference between an explosion and a sustained flame. Nor have I seen anything to suggest he can take a direct rocket to the gut or face.

Even if that were so, it's not like Grevious is gonna stand there like a moron. How is Boba gonna deal with getting blitz'd by Grevious? That seems far more likely really.

Originally posted by ILS
Also, it's made clear in various source material that Grievous' organs are fully protected.

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None of which states they are "fully protected" merely protected.

BTW, Boba has his lightsaber proof armor, Grievous won't be slicing jack.

If he has survived a direct turbo laser then, yeah, I'd say he should be able to survive Boba's rockets. I'm just not aware of him tanking a direct shot.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Even if that were so, it's not like Grevious is gonna stand there like a moron.

That's a fair point. I'm merely arguing against the notion that Grievous is immune to all of Boba's weaponry.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
BTW, Boba has his lightsaber proof armor, Grievous won't be slicing jack.

Grevious still has the vast strength edge, he really wouldn't need his lightsabers.

Originally posted by ares834
Nope. There is a large difference between an explosion and a sustained flame. Nor have I seen anything to suggest he can take a direct rocket to the gut or face. Yeah, the explosion engulfs one's entire being, whereas a flame is both pitiful in a comparison of damage output and range. I will now for the third time post Grievous tanking an explosion that makes Boba's flamethrower look like less than a water gun in comparsion.

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Notable facts:

- Grievous was at the center of the explosion.
- The explosion engulfed the entire facility Grievous was in.
- The explosion threatened the stability of Belsus' surface.
- Boba's flamethrower is pathetic in comparison

As for the direct rocket argument, a starfighter laser cannon is of similar or superior damage output (Slave I/II ect are equipped with such cannons) and Grievous's armor can withstand such attacks. Both the kinetic force and the damage output isn't enough to hurt Grievous.

@Zen Boba has some pretty gruesome strength feats too, and lol @ implying Grievous can walk through Mandalorian armor.

And once again, there is a large difference between an explosion and a sustained flame. Boba's flamethrower may be "pathetic in comparison" but it is far more suited to seeping through the cracks in Grievous's armor and burning his organs.

Grievous doesn't need to get through the armor, unless the armor protects Boba's brain from bouncing around in his skull, leading to unconsciousness.

Also, did Boba just replace the plating on his armor with Beskar, or did he re-fit his armor with full plate protection? Because on previous armors he's sacrificed leg plating for more maneuverability. Grievous can attack his legs if this is the case for his Beskar armor.

Originally posted by ares834
And once again, there is a large difference between an explosion and a sustained flame. Boba's flamethrower may be "pathetic in comparison" but it is far more suited to seeping through the cracks in Grievous's armor and burning his organs. Dude, when something explodes right next to you that covers the entire facility you are in, in fire, it stands to reason that said fire would "seep through the cracks" of Grievous' armor. If there were any cracks in the first place...

Bobba as of LOTF had durasteel armor not Beskar.

Boba's armor resistance, even before the Beskar, could tank direct missiles.
I'm more impressed with a concentrated blast then a scattered explosion from Grievous:
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Originally posted by ILS
Dude, when something explodes right next to you that covers the entire facility you are in, in fire, it stands to reason that said fire would "seep through the cracks" of Grievous' armor. If there were any cracks in the first place...

Except it isn't. We see in the final panel that the fire wasnt completely engulfing him at the time. It's only the initial explosion where we know that that happened.

And their are cracks. We see this in RotS. Hell, his damn eyes are exposed.

Originally posted by Damn My Food
Ant, you're being silly. Boba's neck and most of his legs are unarmed.
Proof? In Fate of the Jedi, Boba's personal Mandalorians had armor that made lightsaber attacks meaningless basically everywhere.

Originally posted by ares834
Except it isn't. We see in the final panel that the fire wasnt completely engulfing him at the time. It's only the initial explosion where we know that that happened.

And their are cracks. We see this in RotS. Hell, his damn eyes are exposed. The final panel was after the explosion had exploded. While the facility was exploding, it was stated as being engulfed. I fail to see how the entire facility Grievous was in could be engulfed in flames but not him and then subsequent cracks in his armor.

And his eyes do have limited protection that lets them survive in the vacuum. Going by feats as well they evidently don't end up worse for ware after explosions as well.

And if he is turned the right way, his armor very well could protect him from the explosion.

Found the quote: "he could hear the zat-zat-zat sounds of lightsaber blows raining quickly yet inefficiently against the Mandalorian armor."
Also the text states that manhandling a Mandalorian with the armor "wouldn't take out an armored commando, and it didn't either." So ya.

Originally posted by ares834
And if he is turned the right way, his armor very well could protect him from the explosion. I mean.. I don't see which way you think he could have turned to prevent that point-blank explosion from f*cking him up if he had exposed organs.

Let's try being a little less ludicrous.

If someone posted the quote where Boba receives his Beskar armor it'd probably clear up if it just replaced his old plates or if it indeed covered his entire body.

Did said manhandling, say anything about cyborg attacks that can break apart phrik? Or crack transparisteel? Or piercing durasteel armor?

I'm pretty sure multiple hits from someone who is also far faster, will be felt. If nothing else, why can't Grevious just remove the helmet and crush Boba's skull?

Originally posted by ILS
I mean.. I don't see which way you think he could have turned to prevent that point-blank explosion from f*cking him up if he had exposed organs.

Let's try being a little less ludicrous.

Well first, in what you posted it wasn't point blank. The fuel had to hit the "magma below". Second, turning the right way would prevent the fire from seeping through the front crack. Finally, once more his cape was completely undamaged which would suggest he actually found a way to shield himself from the brunt of the explosion.

Grievous was falling towards said Magma, hehe.

Not if the whole area was engulfed in said fire. It's not just coming from one direction. It's an entire facility filled with explosive properties.

His cape is made from armorweave, which provides protection from blaster bolts and fire. And his cave was visibly more torn up from the blast anyway.

Farewell for now, friend.

Initially yes. What happened between that panel and the explosion is unknown. He does have a grapple hook after all.

True. Grievous probably used his grapple hook to get out of the facility that was completely and utterly engulfed in flames, and then went back into the facility to get a badass panel of him crawling out for the comic.

It can't of just been his armor that allowed him to survive the explosion.

When in doubt use strawmans.