Most powerful overall on Marvel Earth

krisblaze

This list is in no particular order.

1. Dr.Strange
2. Shaman
3. Talisman
4. Thor
5. Snowbird
6. Damien Hellstrom
7. Cable
8. X-Man
9. Cassandra Nova
10. Dr.Doom/Phoenix Rachel

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
1. Sentry
2. Dr. Strange
3. Thor
4. Hyperion
5. Hulk
6. Black Bolt
7. Blue Marvel
8. Xavier
9. Hercules
10. Colossonaut
Neither Sentry nor Black Bolt reside on earth atm, as far as I know.

Also, you forgot about Canada stick out tongue

Board Walker

Namor > Black bolt

Supermex

Originally posted by krisblaze
This list is in no particular order.

1. Dr.Strange
2. Shaman
3. Talisman
4. Thor
5. Snowbird
6. Damien Hellstrom
7. Cable
8. X-Man
9. Cassandra Nova
10. Dr.Doom/Phoenix Rachel

Neither Sentry nor Black Bolt reside on earth atm, as far as I know.

Also, you forgot about Canada stick out tongue

Hulk?
B.Marv?
Hyperion?

carver9

He will not put Hulk on his list. No need to ask.

Supermex

Originally posted by carver9
He will not put Hulk on his list. No need to ask.

Is his top 10 lagit, Carv?

carver9

Originally posted by Supermex
Is his top 10 lagit, Carv?

Its pretty good if you are using "Classic" characters. Example, Cable currently is mid meta, if that. So he is using God Cable, a character that hasn't been shown in comics over 5 yrs.

Shaman would lose to anyone on the list or he is using a Shaman that hasn't been in comics for yrs. No current fts worth mentioning.

Snowbird is only as high as he is trying to make her during certain points. Her average power levels doesn't put her on the list. It's like me using World Breaker. A non average Hulk.

Hell storm would get merked by Hyperion, Blue Marvel, etc...

IMO...His list is misplaced and it seems like he put a lot of people on his list to avoid putting certain characters in those spots. I could be wrong though.

Ask him to post some recent fts.

Reflassshh

But this thread says 'Most powerful overall', so while Hulk is unarguably a powerful herald, he lacks the versatility to make it into the top ten of a list like this imo.

carver9

Power isn't about versatility though. If that's the case, people like Superman and Gladiator would be flees compared to people like Surfer and Thor.

Sin I AM

Scarlet Witch. Thread

Badabing

You better put Hulk on your list, and fast! sneer

Sin I AM

Originally posted by carver9
Power isn't about versatility though. If that's the case, people like Superman and Gladiator would be flees compared to people like Surfer and Thor.

Gladiator is a flea. Clark just makes excellent use of his abilities

carver9

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Gladiator is a flea. Clark just makes excellent use of his abilities

Gladiator is a beast but thumbs up to your post. I agree. Overall, both are not close to Surfers and Thor versatility. Also, making use of their powers? This is what Hulk has done with his powers and he only has increasing strength.

Thunderclap.

http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Hulk3389/media/diablothunderclap.jpg.html

Super Breath.

http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Hulk3389/media-full//blowingforest.jpg.html

Grip energy.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media-full//wwh019.jpg.html

Adapt.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111113173/3613419-hulk_v2_077_16b.jpg

Super vision.

http://s29.postimg.org/y99095mfr/Savage_Hulk_001_012.jpg

Unstoppable. He prevents himself from being bfred.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/preview/0/0/1/HULK2014001-int-LR3-4-9c5ae.jpg

Speed.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12010.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12011.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12012.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12013.jpg

I can keep going. Him being shrunk to a size of a mouse and growing back to normal under his own power. How about I post that.

http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/5672/ann5j1qa.jpg
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3606/ann5k7vo.jpg

If anyone is versatile with their limited power, then Hulk should take the trophy.

abhilegend

Hulk is inarguably top 3 heralds power wise from marvel alongside Thor and surfer.

Gamma Burst

Hulk
Hyperion
Blue Marvel
Dr. Strange
Thor
Scarlet Witch
Rachel
Magneto
Rogue (with WM's powers)
Namer

krisblaze

Originally posted by Supermex
Hulk?
B.Marv?
Hyperion?

These, Spectrum, Doc.Voodoo and a dozen others could take the spot from Doom/Phoenix Rachel.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hulk is inarguably top 3 heralds power wise from marvel alongside Thor and surfer.
It's very arguable.

I'd gladly take Shaman, Talisman or Dr.Strange over Hulk and Thor.

Surfer doesn't belong to Earth.

carver9

Originally posted by Gamma Burst
Hulk
Hyperion
Blue Marvel
Dr. Strange
Thor
Scarlet Witch
Rachel
Magneto
Rogue (with WM's powers)
Namer

Good list. Rogue has a lot of potential. Forgot about Namor. He ranks up there as well with the big dogs.

Sin I AM

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator is a beast but thumbs up to your post. I agree. Overall, both are not close to Surfers and Thor versatility. Also, making use of their powers? This is what Hulk has done with his powers and he only has increasing strength.

Thunderclap.

http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Hulk3389/media/diablothunderclap.jpg.html

Super Breath.

http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Hulk3389/media-full//blowingforest.jpg.html

Grip energy.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media-full//wwh019.jpg.html

Adapt.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111113173/3613419-hulk_v2_077_16b.jpg

Super vision.

http://s29.postimg.org/y99095mfr/Savage_Hulk_001_012.jpg

Unstoppable. He prevents himself from being bfred.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/preview/0/0/1/HULK2014001-int-LR3-4-9c5ae.jpg

Speed.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12010.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12011.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12012.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12013.jpg

I can keep going. Him being shrunk to a size of a mouse and growing back to normal under his own power. How about I post that.

http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/5672/ann5j1qa.jpg
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3606/ann5k7vo.jpg

If anyone is versatile with their limited power, then Hulk should take the trophy.

U know those feats are garbage right?

Golgo13

Death's Head ftw.

carver9

Originally posted by Sin I AM
U know those feats are garbage right?

Lol...I wasn't showing fts of pure power, I was showing difference. Capabilities. He is more than just punching. Ft wasn't to prove he could blow up a planet.

Supermex

My list as of now

Not in order yet, but Will do soon.

Hulk
Thor
Blue Marvel
Hyperion
Dr.Strange
Black Bolt
Namor
Spectrum
Magneto
Iron Man

If Mags is allowed I'll leave him on. Not really feeling Iron Man should be on the 10 thou..

Plz keep it on to Marvel Earth Superheroes..
High herald or lower.. Only qualify if your pick is in there standard form, not upgrade with a temporary amp.

Must reside on Earth on a regular basis..

Supermex

Anybody think Ghost Rider should crack the list?

DarkSaint85

Lol at Hulk having Super Vision based on that scan.

Carver, using my rice powered eyes, I too gaze into infinity, every night.

DarkSaint85

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk
Thor
Hyperion
Blue Marvel
Black Bolt
Ikaris
Rachel
Magneto
Ironman
Doctor Strange

Anyway, it's easy to snipe at carver, but at least he tried (bless him). Lol at him not thinking of Shaman, 'because he has no current feats'. Why is Magneto there??

No above HH, no temp amps:
Hulk
Thor
Hyperion
Blue Marvel
Black Bolt
Dr Strange
Shaman
Talisman
X-man
Doom

Prof. T.C McAbe

I was thinking about the classic versions. ^^
I am not familiar with the canadian Heroes, or their power level tbh, that's why I didn't include them.

krisblaze

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
I was thinking about the classic versions. ^^
I am not familiar with the canadian Heroes, or their power level tbh, that's why I didn't include them.

No worries.

I thought he wanted to know about current 616 specifically, if not then most of these lists are way too weak stick out tongue

Prof. T.C McAbe

Originally posted by krisblaze
No worries.

I thought he wanted to know about current 616 specifically, if not then most of these lists are way too weak stick out tongue

The phucking mericans make only their US residents powerful I though. In the UK Capt Brit is the top dog i guess, who would it be in Canada, I mean in the High Herald tier?

krisblaze

We've got X-Man and Cable phucking shit up. There's no list that should include the likes of Hyperion and not them!

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
The phucking mericans make only their US residents powerful I though. In the UK Capt Brit is the top dog i guess, who would it be in Canada, I mean in the High Herald tier?
You can argue that Otherworld is a part of Marvel Earth.

So Roma and Merlyn/Merlin would be the most powerful.

There are a slew of celtic gods that are pretty powerful.

And a few more I can't really remember stick out tongue

DarkSaint85

Think Supermex kept it at HH and below (otherwise, Franklin/Legion - when alive - etc).

krisblaze

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Think Supermex kept it at HH and below (otherwise, Franklin/Legion - when alive - etc).
Right, third post smile

One_Angry_Scot

Originally posted by krisblaze
We've got X-Man and Cable phucking shit up. There's no list that should include the likes of Hyperion and not them!

You can argue that Otherworld is a part of Marvel Earth.

So Roma and Merlyn/Merlin would be the most powerful.

There are a slew of celtic gods that are pretty powerful.

And a few more I can't really remember stick out tongue

Aiden Gillespie could be up there I guess considering he has the powers of a Celtic god.

krisblaze

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Aiden Gillespie could be up there I guess considering he has the powers of a Celtic god.
I think it was just a celtic warrior.

From what I've seen he'd get beat pretty bad by the Thing stick out tongue

"Id"

Hulk
Sentry
Genis Vell
Thor
X-Man
Dr Strange
Hyperion
Silver Surfer
Black Bolt
Beta Ray Bill

celeyhyga17

Originally posted by "Id"
Hulk
Sentry
Genis Vell
Thor
X-Man
Dr Strange
Hyperion
Silver Surfer
Black Bolt
Beta Ray Bill
Earth based only

carver9

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol at Hulk having Super Vision based on that scan.

Carver, using my rice powered eyes, I too gaze into infinity, every night.

Look at the panels. As he reverts back to Banner, his vision changes. It's an obvious scene. Scene one, he sees everything. As he change back, his eye site of the heavens slowly change to nothing.

carver9

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Anyway, it's easy to snipe at carver, but at least he tried (bless him). Lol at him not thinking of Shaman, 'because he has no current feats'. Why is Magneto there??

No above HH, no temp amps:
Hulk
Thor
Hyperion
Blue Marvel
Black Bolt
Dr Strange
Shaman
Talisman
X-man
Doom

As long as you have Hulk on your list then we are good.

Supermex

Earth based and keep your pick current

Currently on Earth

Marvel now.. High Herald and below only qualify here..

Insane Titan

Dr strange
Hyperion
Blue Marvel

Are the top 3

carver9

Originally posted by Supermex
Earth based and keep your pick current

Currently on Earth

Marvel now.. High Herald and below only qualify here..

thumb up

That's what I thought everyone was doing. Not Classic 2002 characters.

Supermex

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Dr strange
Hyperion
Blue Marvel

Are the top 3

Hey gang! Is Insane right?

carver9

Lol...we both know he isn't right. He knows he isn't right.

leonidas

based on what i've seen, hard to NOT say strange....

krisblaze

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Dr strange
Hyperion
Blue Marvel

Are the top 3

I agree with your first pick at least thumb up

Sin I AM

Y do people keep saying xman he's like low meta

And lol at hulk having super vision.

Plus Wanda needs to be on that list

One_Angry_Scot

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Y do people keep saying xman he's like low meta

And lol at hulk having super vision.

Plus Wanda needs to be on that list

He's a lot more than Low Meta.

"Id"

Whor
Thor
Blue Marvel
Deathry
Hulk
Hyperion
Angela
Black Bolt
Spectrum
Namor

carver9

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Y do people keep saying xman he's like low meta

And lol at hulk having super vision.

Plus Wanda needs to be on that list

So he doesn't have super vision?

Sin I AM

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
He's a lot more than Low Meta.

Currently? He has his power back?

Damborgson

Thor is number one. The sooner he's embraced as the one true God, the sooner this arguing will stop across all threads and the forum can be united under my banner.

Through a few sacrifices, we'll resurrect Rage.of.Olympus and JaketheBank.

One_Angry_Scot

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Currently? He has his power back?

Nah not as far as I know. Didn't know you were referring to current.

DarkSaint85

Originally posted by Damborgson
Thor is number one. The sooner he's embraced as the one true God, the sooner this arguing will stop across all threads and the forum can be united under my banner.

Through a few sacrifices, we'll resurrect Rage.of.Olympus and JaketheBank.

I offer carver.

"Id"

Honorable Mention:
Magik, and Rogue

Supermex

Originally posted by "Id"
Whor
Thor
Blue Marvel
Deathry
Hulk
Hyperion
Angela
Black Bolt
Spectrum
Namor

Best top 10 list I seen so far

Deathcry might be over HH thou, but nice list.

Supermex

Originally posted by "Id"
Whor
Thor
Blue Marvel
Deathry
Hulk
Hyperion
Angela
Black Bolt
Spectrum
Namor

Hey gang!!

Does Angela and Whor get in the top 10 on current Marvel Earth?

DarkSaint85

Angela isn't on Earth (she's been gallivanting across the 9 realms), and I'd say female Thor warrants it, but not Thor. Power Man tanked an enraged Jarnbjorn strike, and White Tiger was ripping Odinson apart.

krisblaze

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Angela isn't on Earth (she's been gallivanting across the 9 realms), and I'd say female Thor warrants it, but not Thor. Power Man tanked an enraged Jarnbjorn strike, and White Tiger was ripping Odinson apart.
You're docking Thor for not killing the yos in Mighty Avengers?

Good luck finding anyone who does well against them.

DarkSaint85

Docking Odinson, yes. Also, the Frost Giants.

And replacing him with a Canuck.

Also, Namor isn't on Earth, neither is Deathtry.

In short, mine is better.

carver9

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Angela isn't on Earth (she's been gallivanting across the 9 realms), and I'd say female Thor warrants it, but not Thor. Power Man tanked an enraged Jarnbjorn strike, and White Tiger was ripping Odinson apart.

Agreed on this. He did have a good showing against Apocalypse but that fight had context as well. Loki with the hammer mud stomped Thor. Then tibwas said that this same Thor couldn't fight against Spiderman (WTF) because he was too slow. He doesn't make the list. Whor does though.

krisblaze

Originally posted by carver9
Agreed on this. He did have a good showing against Apocalypse but that fight had context as well. Loki with the hammer mud stomped Thor. Then tibwas said that this same Thor couldn't fight against Spiderman (WTF) because he was too slow. He doesn't make the list. Whor does though.
mudstomped Thor, did you read the fight? It was close as hell no expression

I agree he doesn't make the list, though not because of this retarded ass post.

Sin I AM

I think they are setting thor up for something grand. I believe that he will be able to lift that hammer again and regain his arm. He should be back at levels similar to after civil war

carver9

Think people forgot that Thor is currently possessing a Mjlonir like weapon for the non worthy and from appearance, he is back at his normal power levels.

krisblaze

Sin, I actually doubt it.

He'll come back and things will revert to normal, but I doubt he's going to have some grand adventure or anything.

Marvel just doesn't give a phuck.
Originally posted by carver9
Think people forgot that Thor is currently possessing a Mjlonir like weapon for the non worthy and from appearance, he is back at his normal power levels.
I think you forget that he had it for half a issue.

carver9

Guess who's on everyone's list Kris? It hurts doesn't it. Anyways, there's nothing shown that he doesn't possess the hammer anymore.

Sin I AM

Originally posted by carver9
Think people forgot that Thor is currently possessing a Mjlonir like weapon for the non worthy and from appearance, he is back at his normal power levels.

I dunno. Marvel is top dog now unfortunately and they want to keep selling comics and will do anything to achieve that. Im just saddened by the lack of continuity. Like i know old king thor had one arm but this seems forced. And not just thor books. Falcon, Red Skull, Cyclops, no more F4. I feel that marvel needs a HARD reboot. And take it way back, like before OMD, Skrull Invasion and Civil War. I have no issues with Sam leading the avengers but not as Cap. Do it as Sam. It's like everything is based on shock value

celeyhyga17

Originally posted by carver9
Guess who's on everyone's list Kris? It hurts doesn't it. Anyways, there's nothing shown that he doesn't possess the hammer anymore.
Not on mine.

carver9

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Not on mine.

You didn't create a list. NOW you might not have him on your list since Ive said something.

-K-M-

Three members of Alpha Flight in the top 10? Are you hitting on me? confused

Supermex

How the hell you still employeed with a list like that!!?? lol

Supermex

In no real order yet

Dr.Strange
Hulk
Thor
Blue Marvel
Hyperion
Black Bolt
Whor
Namor
Spectrum
10.?????

Anyone I should remove?

Who should get the last spot on my top 10?

Prof. T.C McAbe

Ok current Sentry is above HH so I take him out.

1. Dr. Strange
2. Female Thor
3. Hyperion
4. Hulk
5. Current Thor
6. Black Bolt
7. Blue Marvel
8. Starbrand
9. WonderMan
10. Red Hulk

ODG

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I think they are setting thor up for something grand. I believe that he will be able to lift that hammer again and regain his arm. He should be back at levels similar to after civil war Thor is leading the Multiversal Avengers against either the Ivory Kings or Rabum Alal. Doesn't get much grander than that? Originally posted by Sin I AM
I dunno. Marvel is top dog now unfortunately and they want to keep selling comics and will do anything to achieve that. Im just saddened by the lack of continuity. Like i know old king thor had one arm but this seems forced. And not just thor books. Falcon, Red Skull, Cyclops, no more F4. I feel that marvel needs a HARD reboot. And take it way back, like before OMD, Skrull Invasion and Civil War. I have no issues with Sam leading the avengers but not as Cap. Do it as Sam. It's like everything is based on shock value Not too long ago, Thor was dead, Cap was dead, Spider-Man and Daredevil were unmasked (the latter being in jail), Bucky was the new Cap, and Luke Cage was essentially leading the Avengers while Black Panther/Storm took over the F4.

This stuff's been happening for awhile. Helps keep the line fresh.

Supermex

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Ok current Sentry is above HH so I take him out.

1. Dr. Strange
2. Female Thor
3. Hyperion
4. Hulk
5. Current Thor
6. Black Bolt
7. Blue Marvel
8. Starbrand
9. WonderMan
10. Red Hulk

Starbrand
Wonder Man
Rulk

Intresting smile

celeyhyga17

Originally posted by carver9
You didn't create a list. NOW you might not have him on your list since Ive said something.
Mental list of top 3. sly

He is on my top 10 however. He's just too limited to ever make any top 3. Don't get me wrong, on pure physicality he's going to be tops.

krisblaze

Originally posted by Supermex
How the hell you still employeed with a list like that!!?? lol

Are you not familiar with these characters?

My bad for going over high herald, but yeah...did you want a "top 10 most popular mid heralds" list? Or did you want the 10 most powerful characters on Marvel earth?...
Originally posted by ODG
Thor is leading the Multiversal Avengers against either the Ivory Kings or Rabum Alal. Doesn't get much grander than that? Not too long ago, Thor was dead, Cap was dead, Spider-Man and Daredevil were unmasked (the latter being in jail), Bucky was the new Cap, and Luke Cage was essentially leading the Avengers while Black Panther/Storm took over the F4.
Grand stuff generally gets more than 5 pages smile

I think Sin was thinking of an arc or something.

Sin I AM

Originally posted by ODG
Thor is leading the Multiversal Avengers against either the Ivory Kings or Rabum Alal. Doesn't get much grander than that? Not too long ago, Thor was dead, Cap was dead, Spider-Man and Daredevil were unmasked (the latter being in jail), Bucky was the new Cap, and Luke Cage was essentially leading the Avengers while Black Panther/Storm took over the F4.

This stuff's been happening for awhile. Helps keep the line fresh.

Im not impressed. Im just not...maybe it's me but the writing as a whole seems forced

Supermex

Originally posted by krisblaze
Are you not familiar with these characters?

My bad for going over high herald, but yeah...did you want a "top 10 most popular mid heralds" list? Or did you want the 10 most powerful characters on Marvel earth?...

Grand stuff generally gets more than 5 pages smile

I think Sin was thinking of an arc or something. t

I was just joking, but yup 10 most powerful characters on Marvel earth currently with a high herald cap limit..

krisblaze

Originally posted by Supermex
I was just joking, but yup 10 most powerful characters on Marvel earth currently with a high herald cap limit..

Some of the ones I listed don't fall within the cap, so my list is off.

I'll make a more relevant one later stick out tongue

Anyways, I didn't notice this turd of a post until now.

Originally posted by carver9
Its pretty good if you are using "Classic" characters. Example, Cable currently is mid meta, if that. So he is using God Cable, a character that hasn't been shown in comics over 5 yrs.

Shaman would lose to anyone on the list or he is using a Shaman that hasn't been in comics for yrs. No current fts worth mentioning.

Snowbird is only as high as he is trying to make her during certain points. Her average power levels doesn't put her on the list. It's like me using World Breaker. A non average Hulk.
Ask him to post some recent fts.

Cable's powers are back and he's wielding the psimitar again. This happened in Cable and X-Force 2013-2014.

Snowbird's last appearances from 2011 both have her at trans++

Shaman's latest appearances from Alpha Flight v4 ca 2013 have him as high as he's ever been.

Cassandra Nova's gotten almost more powerful and her latest showings were in Uncanny X-Force 2014..

X-Man's got showings from 2014 in new mutants.

Hellstrom is as powerful as ever and was in Avengers Undercover in 2014.

None of these characters appearances have hinted at them being any weaker than they've previously been. In Snowbird and Nova's case it's the opposite!

Talisman is the only one without feats in the 2010s (that I can think of at least), but that doesn't somehow disqualify her from this list. That's just some pathetic attempt by you at moving the goalpost so you don't look ignorant for only keeping up to date with Hulk no expression

For phucks sake man, it's not like this stuff isn't getting posted around here....

krisblaze

In example here, where Blaquesmith confirms that Cable's powers are back up, from Uncanny X-Force #14:

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/th_CableandX-Force014-015.jpg http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/th_CableandX-Force014-016.jpg

abhilegend

What are Cassandra Nova current feats?

krisblaze

Originally posted by abhilegend
What are Cassandra Nova current feats?
I can upload the uncanny x-force run later today.

She was easily able to get through Bishop's power absorption in example.

And Bishop was shown capable of absorbing telepathic attacks in New X-Men, when he absorbed Esme w/Kick's telepathic attacks.

-K-M-

In x-force, she was a future version of nova and went by the name of the owl queen/great white owl. She currently is "dead" so not sure if we can use her here anyways.

abhilegend

Originally posted by krisblaze
I can upload the uncanny x-force run later today.

She was easily able to get through Bishop's power absorption in example.

And Bishop was shown capable of absorbing telepathic attacks in New X-Men, when he absorbed Esme w/Kick's telepathic attacks.
That's not that good.

krisblaze

Originally posted by -K-M-
In x-force, she was a future version of nova and went by the name of the owl queen/great white owl. She currently is "dead" so not sure if we can use her here anyways.
Yeah...my bad sad

carver9

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not that good.

thumb up

Not even mid Herald good.

krisblaze

Originally posted by carver9
thumb up

Not even mid Herald good.
Pick a mid herald, any mid herald, and we can BZ Cassandra Nova vs them smile

Watch this guys, I'm about to end Carver's whole career

carver9

Originally posted by krisblaze
Pick a mid herald, any mid herald, and we can BZ Cassandra Nova vs them smile

Watch this guys, I'm about to end Carver's whole career

I said that showing isn't mid Herald (and it isn't). Never said SHE wasn't mid Herald.

krisblaze

Originally posted by carver9
I said that showing isn't mid Herald (and it isn't). Never said SHE wasn't mid Herald.
It's not even her showing, don't worry smile

I'm just kidding, she's actually depowered.

Here's the scan where Hulk beats her

PSYCHE!

That's the wrong scan!

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/brucelynn/13558490/30015/30015_original.gif

Damborgson

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I offer carver.

Accepted.

DarkSaint85

Originally posted by krisblaze
It's not even her showing, don't worry smile

I'm just kidding, she's actually depowered.

Lies!!!! That's old!!!

Now, had you used current Magneto, that would be a different matter.

krisblaze

Actually I wonder if the Uncanny X-Force CN counts as the 616 one.

They mention that she's "returned" to present date.

But considering how off-set she was by her human body, it might not be her.

Stoic

Starbrand. Right Zop? big grin

Supermex

Originally posted by Stoic
Starbrand. Right Zop? big grin

Do you believe Starbrand is top 10 currently?

Stoic

Originally posted by Supermex
Do you believe Starbrand is top 10 currently?

Yes, and easily so. His power comes from his imagination. If he is afraid, or doubtful he can easily be harmed, but if he imagines himself as being above the threat in question, he will be. There of course are limitations that will be set, but so far we have yet to see his limits. If I could have any weapon in the MU, it would likely be the Starbrand.

Supermex

Originally posted by Stoic
Yes, and easily so. His power comes from his imagination. If he is afraid, or doubtful he can easily be harmed, but if he imagines himself as being above the threat in question, he will be. There of course are limitations that will be set, but so far we have yet to see his limits. If I could have any weapon in the MU, it would likely be the Starbrand.

Would Starbrands power be above High Herald lvl?

I mean can Star and easily defeat Cls.Thor one on one?
If he can then he be above HH lvl as for Thor is about the base of HH lvl in my own opinion.

Stoic

Originally posted by Supermex
Would Starbrands power be above High Herald lvl?

I mean can Star and easily defeat Cls.Thor one on one?
If he can then he be above HH lvl as for Thor is about the base of HH lvl in my own opinion.

Thor hit Kevin with Mjolnir, and Kevin said that he barely felt it. This was the very first day or hour that Kevin became the Starbrand. The Brand works much like a Green lantern's ring works, and as you may know, it takes time for weapons like that to get used to. I would say that with an adequate amount of experience, that a Starbrand user would be above the High Herald tier. But, like all characters, this does not mean that a character listed as low meta could not defeat them. Power set is a completely different thing. For example; Charles Xavier may be able to defeat a character far more powerful than he is.

Supermex

Originally posted by Stoic
Thor hit Kevin with Mjolnir, and Kevin said that he barely felt it. This was the very first day or hour that Kevin became the Starbrand. The Brand works much like a Green lantern's ring works, and as you may know, it takes time for weapons like that to get used to. I would say that with an adequate amount of experience, that a Starbrand user would be above the High Herald tier. But, like all characters, this does not mean that a character listed as low meta could not defeat them. Power set is a completely different thing. For example; Charles Xavier may be able to defeat a character far more powerful than he is.

Yea I think Starbrand would be fine to qualify in this top 10 list.

carver9

Starbrand is above Herald levels.

Supermex

Originally posted by carver9
Starbrand is above Herald levels.

Would he beat Thor one on one?

krisblaze

Anybody notice how Carver bitched out after I destroyed him smile

carver9

Originally posted by Supermex
Would he beat Thor one on one?

Easily.

@Kris...

When did you destroy me?

krisblaze

Originally posted by carver9
Easily.

@Kris...

When did you destroy me?
Last page.

carver9

Originally posted by krisblaze
Some of the ones I listed don't fall within the cap, so my list is off.

I'll make a more relevant one later stick out tongue

Anyways, I didn't notice this turd of a post until now.

Cable's powers are back and he's wielding the psimitar again. This happened in Cable and X-Force 2013-2014.

Snowbird's last appearances from 2011 both have her at trans++

Shaman's latest appearances from Alpha Flight v4 ca 2013 have him as high as he's ever been.

Cassandra Nova's gotten almost more powerful and her latest showings were in Uncanny X-Force 2014..

X-Man's got showings from 2014 in new mutants.

Hellstrom is as powerful as ever and was in Avengers Undercover in 2014.

None of these characters appearances have hinted at them being any weaker than they've previously been. In Snowbird and Nova's case it's the opposite!

Talisman is the only one without feats in the 2010s (that I can think of at least), but that doesn't somehow disqualify her from this list. That's just some pathetic attempt by you at moving the goalpost so you don't look ignorant for only keeping up to date with Hulk no expression

For phucks sake man, it's not like this stuff isn't getting posted around here....

We have no idea where Cable powers are at so you using that showing is irrelevant since we have nothing to lean on with him being at his God levels.

What appearance and is that her standard? What is her standard power level?

Scans of Shaman.

I thought Cassandra was powerless? Am I wrong?

What's Hell storm fts are you talking about?

I disagree. You haven't provided anything tbh and in comparison to what the HULK has been doing as of late, I'm hoping you have a lot of evidence to support putting them above him.

I guess I missed these posts. Please provide evidence of what you are saying.

Time Immemorial

Originally posted by krisblaze
Anybody notice how Carver bitched out after I destroyed him smile

I used this on Carver once, he likes to duck and cover, run out eat a fresh bowl of Hulk cereal and come back amped.

krisblaze

Originally posted by carver9
We have no idea where Cable powers are at so you using that showing is irrelevant since we have nothing to lean on with him being at his God levels.
Blaquesmith confirmed it in Cable and Uncanny X-Force #14. I posted this.

Originally posted by carver9
What appearance and is that her standard? What is her standard power level?
It's well within her standard when her power level depends on who she invokes.

This is like claiming that Beast Boy's not superhuman unless he invokves the power of a beast...
Originally posted by carver9
Scans of Shaman.

I thought Cassandra was powerless? Am I wrong?

What's Hell storm fts are you talking about?

I disagree. You haven't provided anything tbh and in comparison to what the HULK has been doing as of late, I'm hoping you have a lot of evidence to support putting them above him.

I guess I missed these posts. Please provide evidence of what you are saying.
Originally posted by carver9
Scans of Shaman.
It's in the respect thread.
Originally posted by carver9
I thought Cassandra was powerless? Am I wrong?
Quite wrong.
Originally posted by carver9
What's Hell storm fts are you talking about?

He was in Avengers Arena. I'm saying that there's no reason to assume that he has been depowered since his last appearances around 2010.
Originally posted by carver9
I disagree. You haven't provided anything tbh and in comparison to what the HULK has been doing as of late, I'm hoping you have a lot of evidence to

I guess I missed these posts. Please provide evidence of what you are saying.

You can't disagree. It's not an opinion.

These characters have not been depowered. The only one who had been, Cable, has gotten his powers back.

You tried to make a case because they supposedly hadn't been around these last years, which was a lie. You simply don't read these comics.

These comics are in the post you just quoted.

Cable and X-Force, Godsquad+Chaos War, Uncanny X-Force, Alpha Flight v4, New Mutants v4 and Avengers Undercover.

You're desperately trying to make stuff up, that's okay. I'll gladly take any of these characters against your Hulk in the Battlezone.

Naturally, I'll destroy you smile

carver9

Originally posted by krisblaze
Blaquesmith confirmed it in Cable and Uncanny X-Force #14. I posted this.

It's well within her standard when her power level depends on who she invokes.

This is like claiming that Beast Boy's not superhuman unless he invokves the power of a beast...

It's in the respect thread.

Quite wrong.

He was in Avengers Arena. I'm saying that there's no reason to assume that he has been depowered since his last appearances around 2010.

You can't disagree. It's not an opinion.

These characters have not been depowered. The only one who had been, Cable, has gotten his powers back.

You tried to make a case because they supposedly hadn't been around these last years, which was a lie. You simply don't read these comics.

These comics are in the post you just quoted.

Cable and X-Force, Godsquad+Chaos War, Uncanny X-Force, Alpha Flight v4, New Mutants v4 and Avengers Undercover.

You're desperately trying to make stuff up, that's okay. I'll gladly take any of these characters against your Hulk in the Battlezone.

Naturally, I'll destroy you smile

So he confirmed that he was back to his God levels? I'm not seeing that in your scans. Your scans states that his powers are increasing but to what levels? We do not know.

Gotcha. With that said, World Breaker is Hulk standards as well. Now I understand why you didn't use him in your list. Thanks for the confirmation. smile

I'm not checking a respect thread. You're the one making claims, so provide proof.

Scans of her later showings. Taking out Gladiator is nice and all but it isn't enough...especially when we have a weakened Hulk massacring Glads. What else ya got?

What did he do during his last showing since 2010?

I do disagree though.

This is a current thread. What have they RECENTLY done to put them on the levels you are saying. We shouldn't have to go back to 1980 to find the fts you are using.

So we are battlezoning World Breaker vs your characters? ALL of Hulk fts included and usable?

Damborgson

Carver is TBE. he's thr floyd mayweather of the forum.

krisblaze

Originally posted by carver9
So he confirmed that he was back to his God levels? I'm not seeing that in your scans. Your scans states that his powers are increasing but to what levels? We do not know.
Read the comic smile

Originally posted by carver9
Gotcha. With that said, World Breaker is Hulk standards as well. Now I understand why you didn't use him in your list. Thanks for the confirmation. smile

It's not the same, but you wouldn't understand the difference.

It's not a different incarnation of Snowbird, it's just her using her powers.
Originally posted by carver9

You must be retarded.
Originally posted by carver9
Scans of her later showings. Taking out Gladiator is nice and all but it isn't enough...especially when we have a weakened Hulk massacring Glads. What else ya got?
A weakened Hulk? You mean Hulk almost getting killed by Gladiator, despite there being a NUCLEAR REACTOR right by them?

Cassandra Nova's defeat of Gladiator was clear cut, and she beat him+the other guardsmen there. After she survived entering 4-space and had defeated the other guardians.

She has been powered up now, as Psylocke's telepathy has been added to her own.
Originally posted by carver9
What did he do during his last showing since 2010?
He used a move that would defeat Worldbreaker Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9
I do disagree though.
Yes, it's almost amazing.

You've no reason to believe that they've been depowered, yet apparently they have.

Why?

Because they're more powerful than the Hulk.

Did Galactus get depowered also?
Originally posted by carver9
This is a current thread. What have they RECENTLY done to put them on the levels you are saying. We shouldn't have to go back to 1980 to find the fts you are using.
2014
2011
2013
2014
2009

Stop trolling smile

Originally posted by carver9
So we are battlezoning World Breaker vs your characters? All fts included?
Yes we are.

Cassandra Nova, X-Man or Shaman.

Take your pick.

Loser leaves KMC for a year.

carver9

Originally posted by Damborgson
Carver is TBE. he's thr floyd mayweather of the forum.

Floyd has wins so I'm satisfied with that.

krisblaze

I'm about to rid KMC of its greatest troll smile

carver9

Originally posted by krisblaze
Read the comic smile

It's not the same, but you wouldn't understand the difference.

It's not a different incarnation of Snowbird, it's just her using her powers.

You must be retarded.

A weakened Hulk? You mean Hulk almost getting killed by Gladiator, despite there being a NUCLEAR REACTOR right by them?

Cassandra Nova's defeat of Gladiator was clear cut, and she beat him+the other guardsmen there. After she survived entering 4-space and had defeated the other guardians.

She has been powered up now, as Psylocke's telepathy has been added to her own.

He used a move that would defeat Worldbreaker Hulk.

Yes, it's almost amazing.

You've no reason to believe that they've been depowered, yet apparently they have.

Why?

Because they're more powerful than the Hulk.

Did Galactus get depowered also?

2014
2011
20132014
2009

Stop trolling smile

Yes we are.

Cassandra Nova, X-Man or Shaman.

Take your pick.

Loser leaves KMC for a year.

You're making the claims...post the scans.

It's pretty much the same and WBH is Hulk using his powers.

Yes weakened and prove that the reactor had play in Gladiator losing to Hulk. Prove that Glads was weakened before being thrown in the reactor. Scans please.

Hulk defeat of Gladiator was clear cut. Read the fight please and again, provide proof that Gladiator was hit by the radiation of the nuclear planet before Hulk gained the advantage.

What has Cassandra done and please provide scans.

What move?

What fts put them in the high Herald tier?

In your opinion they are. Glad it's just YOUR opinion. Marvel has classified Hulk as the most powerful being on the planet plenty of times.

Lol...Xman himself has admitted he never faced anyone like the Hulk and has even stunned him with a single hit and ripped through his best shields. Good luck with a battlezone on that. BUT, I will never give you the power to decide if I leave or not. So no deal my friend.

carver9

Originally posted by krisblaze
I'm about to rid KMC of its greatest troll smile

Why did you get banned?

krisblaze

Big talk.

Let's do the BZ.

X-Man vs WBH okay then?

Golgo13

Should be good.

Badabing

First of all, how is this even a multi-page debate? It's an opinion. Now if somebody says Spidey or Falcon, then there's a clear cut example of not most powerful.

Second, how are comics from 2009 on not current? Some characters have very few showings which makes people go back several years. Other characters may not have changed much over the years. Others, like Hulk, have several incarnations which makes specifying a good thing. Originally posted by carver9
laughing out loud

Why did you get banned? He was banned because another member (who's now banned) was reading a thread about a certain comic and crying because people were posting plot details. This comic was already out and he lied to a mod. Digi changed the rules about spoilers because I was about to snap over the unjust banning.

carver9

Agreed on everything you said (bada). I never said he could not use those as Evidence, I'm asking him for scans. I purposely ignored his previous post for a reason but he brought it back up as if he wanted me to reply to his post. I will leave this topic alone because like you said, this thread is based on personal opinion.

krisblaze

Carver, I'll gladly take that Battlezone.

X-Man vs WBH, Shaman vs WBH or Cassandra Nova vs WBH.

I'd also like to call both of your attention to this exchange.

Originally posted by Supermex
Hulk?
B.Marv?
Hyperion?
Originally posted by krisblaze
These, Spectrum, Doc.Voodoo and a dozen others could take the spot from Doom/Phoenix Rachel.

Did you purposely ignore this post by me? You keep saying that I refuse to add Hulk, when I agreed on the second page that he's eligible, along with half a dozen others.

Originally posted by Badabing
Second, how are comics from 2009 on not current? Some characters have very few showings which makes people go back several years. Other characters may not have changed much over the years. Others, like Hulk, have several incarnations which makes specifying a good thing. He was banned because another member (who's now banned) was reading a thread about a certain comic and crying because people were posting plot details. This comic was already out and he lied to a mod. Digi changed the rules about spoilers because I was about to snap over the unjust banning.
Thanks man, that really means a lot thumb up

I should've tried to return years ago stick out tongue

Supermex

Floyd still ducking Manny!!

This has gone alot of pages so if you like repost if it has change or post your top 10 superheroes currently on Marvel Earth high herald or below..

Dont rank Starbrand sents he is above HH lvl

Badabing

Originally posted by carver9
Agreed on everything you said (bada). I never said he could not use those as Evidence, I'm asking him for scans. I purposely ignored his previous post for a reason but he brought it back up as if he wanted me to reply to his post. I will leave this topic alone because like you said, this thread is based on personal opinion. Why do you always leave anytime I post about something that needs to stop? I'm not your nemesis Pr.

Though he did say your ban would speed his recovery...mmm

Damborgson

Originally posted by carver9
Floyd has wins so I'm satisfied with that.

And he's undefeated too thumb up

I don't think you've lost a battlezone yet right?

RockofAges

What about Gabriel Shepherd?

carver9

Originally posted by Damborgson
And he's undefeated too thumb up

I don't think you've lost a battlezone yet right?

Naah, I haven't. I did/am doing a battlezone with Quan but he never made his last reply. Hoping to see how that turns out.

carver9

Originally posted by Mindset
Hulk.

thumb up

Intelligent guy.

DarkSaint85

Originally posted by carver9

This is a current thread. What have they RECENTLY done to put them on the levels you are saying. We shouldn't have to go back to 1980 to find the fts you are using.

Originally posted by carver9

Magneto

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Zch_Lr2eQaQ/U8Z7Olx4qWI/AAAAAAAAEGM/hIRX2b0p9JY/s1600/Magneto+%25282014-%2529+006-014.jpg

Carver, shush.sneer

the Darkone

1. Thor- written to potential and not jobbing
2. Dr. Strange same as Thor
3. Talisman
4. Xman
5. Sersi
6. Franklin Richards
7. Meggan
8. Snowbird
9. Sentry/Hyperion
10. Blue Marvel/Black Bolt

Supermex

My Top 10 in order

Thor
Dr.Strange
Hulk
Blue Marvel
Hyperion
Black Bolt
Namor
Whor
Spectrum
Scarlet Witch

How off am I?

Opinions plz..

carver9

Originally posted by Supermex
My Top 10 in order

Thor
Dr.Strange
Hulk
Blue Marvel
Hyperion
Black Bolt
Namor
Whor
Spectrum
Scarlet Witch

How off am I?

Opinions plz..

The list is near perfect. Don't see any flaws tbh. It's all personal opinion.

Just seen Bada post. I did not stop posting because of your comment. Overall,I agreed with you. So I just stepped away from the debate at hand since it wasn't going anywhere.

Supermex

Originally posted by carver9
The list is near perfect. Don't see any flaws tbh. It's all personal opinion.

Just seen Bada post. I did not stop posting because of your comment. Overall,I agreed with you. So I just stepped away from the debate at hand since it wasn't going anywhere.

Thanks for the breakdown Carv

krisblaze

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, I haven't. I did/am doing a battlezone with Quan but he never made his last reply. Hoping to see how that turns out.

I accepted your battlezone challenge.

Man up.

carver9

Originally posted by krisblaze
I accepted your battlezone challenge.

Man up.

I'm not accepting your lame battlezone due to the terms. I have nothing to prove to you Kris. Let it go.

krisblaze

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not accepting your lame battlezone due to the terms. I have nothing to prove to you Kris. Let it go.
You challenge me to a battlezone....

WBH vs my picks.

Shaman, X-Man or Cassandra Nova. Whichever you like.

Are you backing down? Like a *****?

carver9

Originally posted by krisblaze
You challenge me to a battlezone....

WBH vs my picks.

Shaman, X-Man or Cassandra Nova. Whichever you like.

Are you backing down? Like a *****?

When did I challenge you? Stop trolling me before I report you. If you don't like me or what I post, put me on ignore. That's ok, let me help you out...you are currently on ignore. Holla.

krisblaze

Originally posted by carver9
So we are battlezoning World Breaker vs your characters? ALL of Hulk fts included and usable?
Originally posted by krisblaze
Yes we are.

Cassandra Nova, X-Man or Shaman.

Take your pick.

Loser leaves KMC for a year.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm not accepting your lame battlezone due to the terms. I have nothing to prove to you Kris. Let it go.
Originally posted by krisblaze
You challenge me to a battlezone....

WBH vs my picks.

Shaman, X-Man or Cassandra Nova. Whichever you like.

Are you backing down? Like a *****?
Originally posted by carver9
When did I challenge you? Stop trolling me before I report you. If you don't like me or what I post, put me on ignore. That's ok, let me help you out...you are currently on ignore. Holla.

Carter trolling per usual smile

Reported.

Time Immemorial

http://occupymelbournenet.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/wambulance.jpg

RockofAges

Retards. No one even answered my question just started arguing.

DarkSaint85

You picked one guy. Where would he sit on your list of 10? As in, who would you bump off? That would answer your own question. Do you think he's more powerful than X-man, or Hyperion/Thor?

RockofAges

This is in order

1. The Sentry
2/3. The Hulk
2/3. Gabriel Shepherd
4. Thor
5. Hyperion
5. Blue Marvel
6/7. Selene
6/7. Dr Strange
8. X-Man
9. Legion (If he can get a grip)
10. Ghost Rider

Sorry my lists a bit weird but it was hard to decide between some of them

carver9

Originally posted by RockofAges
This is in order

1. The Sentry
2/3. The Hulk
2/3. Gabriel Shepherd
4. Thor
5. Hyperion
5. Blue Marvel
6/7. Selene
6/7. Dr Strange
8. X-Man
9. Legion (If he can get a grip)
10. Ghost Rider

Sorry my lists a bit weird but it was hard to decide between some of them

thumb up

One_Angry_Scot

Originally posted by carver9
thumb up

I'm not being rude here but you actually agree with that list. I only ask given where it's placed Hulk.

Only thing I would add is to place Legion perhaps a bit higher.

carver9

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I'm not being rude here but you actually agree with that list. I only ask given where it's placed Hulk.

Only thing I would add is to place Legion perhaps a bit higher.

Yep, I agree with it. I think Marvel does as well. Debating isn't rude. I welcome it.

One_Angry_Scot

Originally posted by carver9
Yep, I agree with it. I think Marvel does as well.

I wasn't being facetious or anything just wondered.

What do you think on my point about Legion? I reckon if he's stable he could be higher.

carver9

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I wasn't being facetious or anything just wondered.

What do you think on my point about Legion? I reckon if he's stable he could be higher.

Legion power level is all over the place. At standard levels I would place him around mid Herald, at his insane levels, he far exceeds that. I'm guessing his average is being used in his post. I would probably take Sentry off of the list as well since he is above Herald levels. The rest of his post I agree with.n

RockofAges

Originally posted by carver9
Legion power level is all over the place. At standard levels I would place him around mid Herald, at his insane levels, he far exceeds that. I'm guessing his average is being used in his post. I would probably take Sentry off of the list as well since he is above Herald levels. The rest of his post I agree with.n

lol and put Hulk at number 1? You'd like that.

Though I must defend myself in that the Sentry also has fluctuating power levels. And at his average (Dark Avengers level), I'd say he'd still be number 1 and fall within the confines of the acceptable for the rules of the thread).