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Sidious vs 5 Opress clones

Battle takes place on neutral ground

We've seen how Savage fares against Dooku's lightning. Sidious could just take out 2 of them with lightning and possibly blitz 2 more after making this an unfair 1on1. So Sidious wins imo.

Sidious finds the quintet unworthy of apprenticeship.

Not sure how well the lightning plan pans out. If we're to take the cut content somewhat seriously, Savage at least knows that holding his lightsaber in front of lightning helps to repel it. While 2 Savage's with their immense durability hold off lightning the other three can be attacking Sidious with telekinesis or bullrushing him.

Not saying it's impossible for Sidious to win, just doubt it'll be easy.

Why would we take the cut content seriously since it contradicts with actual scenes from the show as Savage is not capable of defending against Dooku's lightning.

There's the fact he was yet to receive training from Maul when Dooku fought him, and things like lightning defence can be learnt through experience.

Cut scene is Canon.

Filoni confirmed it was only deleted because it wasn't fitting in the 20min episode. Not because "it was stupid" or "it contradicts other stuff".

Usually a deleted scene would be considered Non-Canon because it can no longer fit anywhere in the story (e.g. The Anakin and Ashoka vs Ventress fight in TCW Movie). But in this case we have that Whole section of the fight missing so we know exactly where it fits.

And we also know that Sidious wasn't going all out on them. Not every force user with a lightsaber will automatically be able to defend against such lightning. So even if the cut content were to be taken seriously, I have no reason to believe that Savage is capable of defending against Sidious' lightning.

Still Sidious.

Savage is good in a force departmet, really good. But he is still a few tiers below Sidious.

Not to mention Sidious's speed and skill with a saber that vastly eclipse Savage's.

Multiplying Savage by 5 will only prolong the fight, but will not turn the tide.

Cut content is cut content, no matter how badly some malcontents hate the fact that Opress and Maul can't compete with Sidious.

It's also aggressively idiotic.

Even if Savage can hold his lightsaber in front of him to absorb lightning, when Sidious isn't holding back his lightning blasts the lightsaber from the hands of Yoda. It really doesn't matter either. Savage has no defense against it

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Not really. If he will attack them with FL, he will be forced to lower his guard.Even if he will be able to stun two Savages with his FL, one of the others, will be able to catch him off-guard with his TK - the same way, that Maul did.
And, there still will be to Savages left, which are ready to attack Sidious with the Force or sabers.
Sidious is untouchable for two, or even three Savages. But five? Besides that, Savage has a lot of raw-power in the Force.

Those examples:
Sidious - Maul;
Dooku/Ventress - Opress;
Anakin/Obi-Wan - Ventress;
are showing, that even someone really powerful, still may be unable to release himself from the grip of someone less powerful.

Obviously, Savage is not Maul, he may be not able to stay focused as long as Maul could, but even a few seconds might be enough.

I have no idea, if Savages will take the majority, but they will win few rounds.

There is the speed factor though.

Also, he doesn't have to use his lightning right away. He could separate them via TK and take some of them out by dueling and then deal with the remaining ones with his lightning.

Besides, this isn't just about raw power.He is a lot more experienced and smarter. Dummies like Savage will always find them selves trapped in a disadvantageous position against enemies like Sidious.

Originally posted by McP
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Not really. If he will attack them with FL, he will be forced to lower his guard.Even if he will be able to stun two Savages with his FL, one of the others, will be able to catch him off-guard with his TK - the same way, that Maul did.
And, there still will be to Savages left, which are ready to attack Sidious with the Force or sabers.
Sidious is untouchable for two, or even three Savages. But five? Besides that, Savage has a lot of raw-power in the Force.

Those examples:
Sidious - Maul;
Dooku/Ventress - Opress;
Anakin/Obi-Wan - Ventress;
are showing, that even someone really powerful, still may be unable to release himself from the grip of someone less powerful.

Obviously, Savage is not Maul, he may be not able to stay focused as long as Maul could, but even a few seconds might be enough.

I have no idea, if Savages will take the majority, but they will win few rounds. LOL! Stun them with lightning? Sidious doesn't stun opponents with lightning, he turns them to ash. Also if Sidious can knock a lightsaber out of Yoda's hand with lightning then Savage doesn't stand a chance. Sidious has every advantage in the book against the 5 Opress's.
Intelligence
Speed
Strength
Skill
Power
Control

Sidious laughed at one Opress, 5 is just going to be an after meal exercise

I'm thinking the Savages take this. Maul and Savage wasn't a complete walk in the park for Sidious. 5 Savages just seems like too much.

Originally posted by ares834
I'm thinking the Savages take this. Maul and Savage wasn't a complete walk in the park for Sidious. 5 Savages just seems like too much.
I'm not sure about that. Speed-wise Sidious has tremendous edge. In a novel he overloaded Maul's senses in a duel by moving too fast and while he might not be able to speedblitz all of them, his speed will be a huge advantage to factor in.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Cut content is cut content, no matter how badly some malcontents hate the fact that Opress and Maul can't compete with Sidious.

You're the one who seems to be badly obsessed with stepping in every time this fight is mentioned.

No one here has even hinted that 1 Maul and 1 Opress are competition for Sidious.

The issue here is whether the "cut content" is still canon. There's actually entire episodes which were "cut" and yet are still canon.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It's also aggressively idiotic.

More idiotic than Kanan Force pinning The Inquisitor after it was clearly shown the Inquisitor was much more powerful in the Force than Kanan?

I'm afraid the level of idiocy is not a factor in determining what's Canon.

Good thing then that the sequence to which you refer is cut content and contradicts Filoni's final vision for the episode. 👍

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Good thing then that the sequence to which you refer is cut content and contradicts Filoni's final vision for the episode. 👍


Contradicts it how? Read above.

It on the contrary fills in the gap in the fight. Or are we going to pretend there was no gap in the fight?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
More idiotic than Kanan Force pinning The Inquisitor after it was clearly shown the Inquisitor was much more powerful in the Force than Kanan?

I'm afraid the level of idiocy is not a factor in determining what's Canon. He only was capable of that when the Inquisitor was distracted, and Kanan was desperately trying to save Ezra's life. It isn't too unreasonable. Weaker people in the Force can still get the drop on stronger ones if they're caught off guard. For example Ahsoka sending Asajj flying in Cloak of Darkness.

Not to mention that the jury is still out on their relative power levels; the Inquisitor's advantage over Kanan is skill and training.

Indeed.