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Death Stroke from arrow
Winter Soldier from CA the winter solder

Death Stroke has the mirricuru

Both fully armed

Who wins?

Deathstroke stomps

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Deathstroke stomps No he doesn't.

Deathstroke wins, he has the durability and strength factor over WS, WS may be a better fighter but Stroke would tank his shots and knock his block off

Originally posted by relentless1
Deathstroke wins, he has the durability and strength factor over WS, WS may be a better fighter but Stroke would tank his shots and knock his block off Winter Soldier has enhanced durability and strength too, plus his robotic arm, which I'd say is stronger than DS.

Anyway, they have weapons so it probably won't go hth before one of them is hit with a grenade.

you got a point there, Slade can tank small arms fire though so unless Buck is pulling out the .50 cal right away then I could see Slade getting in close for some h2h, and besides the mech arm Bucky doesn't have enhanced strength in CA : TWS

Thank you for proving that you've never actually seen the movie.

Here is a clip of WS that proves he has enhanced strength, unless of course you'd like to provide proof that it doesn't take above human level strength to kick someone that far into the air.

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Slade can take small arms fire. I don't think WS could. That's a huge advantafe for Slade in a gunfight. Plus Slade's armor is bulletproof.

Originally posted by relentless1
you got a point there, Slade can tank small arms fire though so unless Buck is pulling out the .50 cal right away then I could see Slade getting in close for some h2h, and besides the mech arm Bucky doesn't have enhanced strength in CA : TWS Nope, he has enhanced stats.

They were trying to make him a super soldier like Cap. Why do you think he is still in his 20's when he fought in WW2?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Slade can take small arms fire. I don't think WS could. That's a huge advantafe for Slade in a gunfight. Plus Slade's armor is bulletproof.

WS has a grenade launcher on his m4.

Bucky.

Bucky also has an explosive launcher where the explosive itself is magnetic. Perhaps it will be attracted to all that metal on Slade?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thank you for proving that you've never actually seen the movie.

Here is a clip of WS that proves he has enhanced strength, unless of course you'd like to provide proof that it doesn't take above human level strength to kick someone that far into the air.

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Even without that clear evidence, if Captain America, a guy who's job is beating people up with ease mentions how fast and strong he is like it's a big deal, he's clearly enhanced to some point.

Originally posted by KingD19
Bucky also has an explosive launcher where the explosive itself is magnetic. Perhaps it will be attracted to all that metal on Slade?

Especially the grenades strapped to his chest.

He's phucked.

ah yes, I forgot about the wire kick, my bad. Still, mirakuru Slade is stronger and can tank more

Originally posted by relentless1
ah yes, I forgot about the wire kick, my bad. Still, mirakuru Slade is stronger and can tank more What are some Slade strength feats? I don't remember anything that would put him above WS.

Originally posted by KingD19
Even without that clear evidence, if Captain America, a guy who's job is beating people up with ease mentions how fast and strong he is like it's a big deal, he's clearly enhanced to some point.

He is now saying that he simply forgot about that scene, Isn't it convenient how the one scene he forgot is also the scene that so clearly proves his claim wrong?

**** off dude, I am clearly trying to be objective here while you're just trying to start shit, so I forgot that scene big deal, i admitted that it supports your claim but I still think Slade has the edge

Right, the guy that makes claims with no proof is trying to be objective, whereas the guy that posted actual feats is the one trying to start stuff.

Originally posted by relentless1
**** off dude, I am clearly trying to be objective here while you're just trying to start shit, so I forgot that scene big deal, i admitted that it supports your claim but I still think Slade has the edge What feats of Slade makes you think he's stronger?

for one he put his fist through a guy, he tossed Ivos men around like nothing and he broke a assault rifle with his bare hands.

as far as durability, he tanked hits from a mirakuru enhanced roy and although it never happened directly to him, his Mirakuru soldiers who, at best, are as strong as him if not weaker were able to tank bullets and getting hit by cars at killing speeds

Originally posted by Mindset

WS has a grenade launcher on his m4.

Yes he does. So WS needs to use a grenade launcher to take out Deathstroke whereas DS just needs to shoot him with a normal hand gun.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes he does. So WS needs to use a grenade launcher to take out Deathstroke whereas DS just needs to shoot him with a normal hand gun. You say that like it's supposed to mean something...

Originally posted by Mindset
You say that like it's supposed to mean something...

It means that DS would have an easier time (with more options) killing WS than WS has of killing DS.

Originally posted by FrothByte
It means that DS would have an easier time (with more options) killing WS than WS has of killing DS. WS doesn't need more options and it's easy to shoot a grenade.

So...

A point in the grenades favor is that they have a larger area of effect, plus the one WS used against Fury appeared to be magnetic and DS carries a lot of metal.

Originally posted by Silent Master
A point in the grenades favor is that they have a larger area of effect, plus the one WS used against Fury appeared to be magnetic and DS carries a lot of metal. And like I mentioned earlier, he has grenades strapped to his chest.

That won't work out well for him in this fight.

Seem like you guys are ignoring the fact that everything on DS's arsenal is capable of killing WS. Whereas we're not even sure just how much damage WS's grenade launcher will have on DS. The guy survived an exploding ship after all... and that was without his armor and before he mastered his mirakuru.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Seem like you guys are ignoring the fact that everything on DS's arsenal is capable of killing WS. Whereas we're not even sure just how much damage WS's grenade launcher will have on DS. The guy survived an exploding ship after all... and that was without his armor and before he mastered his mirakuru. It doesn't matter if DS has more options. WS only needs one option to work, and it just so happens to be one that's easily available to him. There's no reason to think a grenade to that face won't at least knock him out for the win.

Cool, we don't know how much damage he actually took from that and how long it took to heal.

Originally posted by Mindset
It doesn't matter if DS has more options. WS only needs one option to work, and it just so happens to be one that's easily available to him. There's no reason to think a grenade to that face won't at least knock him out for the win.

Cool, we don't know how much damage he actually took from that and how long it took to heal.

Nope

Originally posted by Mindset
It doesn't matter if DS has more options. WS only needs one option to work, and it just so happens to be one that's easily available to him. There's no reason to think a grenade to that face won't at least knock him out for the win.

Cool, we don't know how much damage he actually took from that and how long it took to heal.

Yeah and DS also only needs one to kill WS. So I'm not sure why you think WS wins this.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah and DS also only needs one to kill WS. So I'm not sure why you think WS wins this.


Marvel > DC around here, thats why

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah and DS also only needs one to kill WS. So I'm not sure why you think WS wins this. WS has a magnetic explosive that takes little to no aim, if he uses that, it's pretty much game over.

Aside from that, I'd give them equal odds of beating the other. DS does have a penchant for allowing his opponent to attack first though.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes he does. So WS needs to use a grenade launcher to take out Deathstroke whereas DS just needs to shoot him with a normal hand gun.

Yeah...Bucky is just going to stand there like a ****en statue.

The difference is that a grenade to the face *might* kill DS whereas a bullet to the head will surely kill WS.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Yeah...Bucky is just going to stand there like a ****en statue.

Your argument goes both ways dude.

Originally posted by FrothByte
The difference is that a grenade to the face *might* kill DS whereas a bullet to the head will surely kill WS. There's no reason to think it won't at least ko him, which is all it takes for a win.

That and the explosion would set off the other explosives DS keeps on his body.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Your argument goes both ways dude.

Nope only one way if you read your post at the top of the page.

Originally posted by Mindset
There's no reason to think it won't at least ko him, which is all it takes for a win.

That and the explosion would set off the other explosives DS keeps on his body.

So they shoot each other in the head. DS gets KOd with injuries and WS gets killed. Who wins?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Slade can take small arms fire. I don't think WS could. That's a huge advantafe for Slade in a gunfight. Plus Slade's armor is bulletproof.



Didn't even consider that.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So they shoot each other in the head. DS gets KOd with injuries and WS gets killed. Who wins? Strawman.

First, you'd have to prove it wouldn't kill him, which you can't.

Second, they'd both lose according to what we consider a win.

Originally posted by Mindset
Strawman.

First, you'd have to prove it wouldn't kill him, which you can't.

Second, they'd both lose according to what we consider a win.

Bullets from small arms fire don't kill Slade, and that's not even considering his armor which is bullet proof. Slade is tough enough that arrows can't penetrate his skin. He also survived an exploding ship without any injuries.

I'd say it's more up to you to prove that it can kill him, as every single explosive or ballistic weapons used on him hasn't killed him or even seriously injured him... other than his eye of course.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Bullets from small arms fire don't kill Slade, and that's not even considering his armor which is bullet proof. Slade is tough enough that arrows can't penetrate his skin. He also survived an exploding ship without any injuries.

I'd say it's more up to you to prove that it can kill him, as every single explosive or ballistic weapons used on him hasn't killed him or even seriously injured him... other than his eye of course. An arrow can easily pierce his eye, but you don't think a grenade to his face could kill him? That's not even mentioning the fact that you keep acting like it needs to kill him for WS to win. Obviously, bullets hurt him sans body armor, hence the body armor.

Oliver survived that same ship explosion without any injuries. When were explosives used on Slade?

No, it's up to you to actually prove your stance, what are you talking about? There's no evidence to show an explosion won't kill him.

Originally posted by Mindset
An arrow can easily pierce his eye, but you don't think a grenade to his face could kill him? That's not even mentioning the fact that you keep acting like it needs to kill him for WS to win. Obviously, bullets hurt him sans body armor, hence the body armor.

Oliver survived that same ship explosion without any injuries. When were explosives used on Slade?

No, it's up to you to actually prove your stance, what are you talking about? There's no evidence to show an explosion won't kill him.

I already provided proof of Slade surviving an explosion, without his armor, while unable to move under steel. I'm pretty sure an explosion of that magnitude is more powerful than grenades.

Besides even if grenades can kill him, let's not pretend his enhanced durability and armor won't give him an edge.

I see what your tactic here is. You're trying to keep all the focus on Slade and getting me to prove how he can survive a grenade to the face so that you can avoid having to defend how exactly WS can survive getting killed by any of Slade's weapons.

Let's face it, the grenade launcher might kill DS. But every weapon of DS can kill WS.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I already provided proof of Slade surviving an explosion, without his armor, while unable to move under steel. I'm pretty sure an explosion of that magnitude is more powerful than grenades.

Besides even if grenades can kill him, let's not pretend his enhanced durability and armor won't give him an edge.

I see what your tactic here is. You're trying to keep all the focus on Slade and getting me to prove how he can survive a grenade to the face so that you can avoid having to defend how exactly WS can survive getting killed by any of Slade's weapons.

Let's face it, the grenade launcher might kill DS. But every weapon of DS can kill WS. Except you didn't provide proof. Oliver was in that same explosion without armor. Are you just not aware how powerful a grenade is? It won't give him much of any edge, armor does pretty much nothing to stop the explosive force of a grenade hurting the person on the receiving end. His durability is inferior to his armor's.

I'm not trying to shift the focus at all. You brought the focus to Slade when you said a grenade couldn't take him out, which you have yet to prove with anything aside from him surviving an explosion that Oliver also survived.

I said pages ago that either one could kill each other with their weapons. No, a grenade will kill Slade unless you provide proof that it wouldn't, as would WS's other explosives. Hell, a bullet to the head may even take him out. Also, out of the two of them WS is the only one that has a weapon that will pretty much hit Slade with 100% accuracy, his magnetic explosive.

Originally posted by Mindset
Except you didn't provide proof. Oliver was in that same explosion without armor. Are you just not aware how powerful a grenade is? It won't give him much of any edge, armor does pretty much nothing to stop the explosive force of a grenade hurting the person on the receiving end. His durability is inferior to his armor's.

I'm not trying to shift the focus at all. You brought the focus to Slade when you said a grenade couldn't take him out, which you have yet to prove with anything aside from him surviving an explosion that Oliver also survived.

I said pages ago that either one could kill each other with their weapons. No, a grenade will kill Slade unless you provide proof that it wouldn't, as would WS's other explosives. Hell, a bullet to the head may even take him out. Also, out of the two of them WS is the only one that has a weapon that will pretty much hit Slade with 100% accuracy, his magnetic explosive.

I didn't say the grenade can't take him out. I said it's questionable whether the grenade can take him out considering his durability feats and his armor. I said he has a better chance at surviving a grenade than WS has of surviving a bullet.

Oliver was able to escape the brunt of the explosion of the ship. IIRC, he dove down into water. Slade was stuck in the middle of it.

Also, I don't know about that 100% accuracy you're talking about. If it was that easy to use those magnetic bombs why didn't WS simply use them against Cap and his shield?

Originally posted by FrothByte
I didn't say the grenade can't take him out. I said it's questionable whether the grenade can take him out considering his durability feats and his armor. I said he has a better chance at surviving a grenade than WS has of surviving a bullet.

Oliver was able to escape the brunt of the explosion of the ship. IIRC, he dove down into water. Slade was stuck in the middle of it.

Also, I don't know about that 100% accuracy you're talking about. If it was that easy to use those magnetic bombs why didn't WS simply use them against Cap and his shield? But there's nothing to make us question it. He hasn't tanked anything near to a grenade exploding directly on him.

Neither one were near to the epicenter of the explosion, we also don't know how much he was actually damaged by it.

It's as easy and point and shoot. He didn't use it against Cap, how does that disprove anything? Idk how this question seems like a logical thing to ask. He used it against Nick with no problem.