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This is quite an eception to the rule.... But Anakin still young and Obiwan will have the time to became a master (in theory...).

(NB : It's obvious than Yoda and windu are aware than there is sith hidding in the dark.. This became more obvious in RotS...)

Ashoka is already trained... Anakin is not even a master and at the begining she is destinned to Obiwan... WTF?

Am I the ONLY ONE WHO STILL MIND THIS THING? Because people try to figure did she survive order 66.. The awnser is yess and no. She is a legend character scenarist already kill her and make her survive !!!

She die on Kashyyyk cause order 66.. Killed by rex.

She survive because she live the Jedi order.

A. Because you need to train a Padawan to knighthood to become a master, and Anakin needed to learn to let go of attachments.
B. It's not an exception in anyway.
C. The Sith became obvious in TPM. And in AotC. And in TCW.
D.Uh duh she's trained. Younglings receive training.
E. This isn't even coherent.

I think my eyes are bleeding.

Ashoka has youngling training. A Knight is sufficient rank to get a Padawan- Obi-Wan was a padawan when he got Anakin after all.

Ashoka was an energetic padawan with high potential, so putting her with Anakin seemed a natural fit.




She's never died in anything, Legends or not.

Who is Ashoka? I only know this one Padawan girl named Ahsoka. She's a pretty Togruta and is a great conversationalist.

But I have never met Ashoka. She cool?

Originally posted by Q99
She's never died in anything, Legends or not. Technically she died on Mortis, but the Daughter resurrected her.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Technically she died on Mortis, but the Daughter resurrected her.

Oh, yea.

She's never *stayed* dead in anything

Thank the Lord.

And for future reference it's spelled *Ahsoka not "Ashoka".

"A. Because you need to train a Padawan to knighthood to become a master, and Anakin needed to learn to let go of attachments."

But you have to be ready to earn the title because you get the TITLE WITH THE APPRENTICE.

Obiwan in the apprentice novel.. Said than he became a master too quicly. If Qui Gon haven't tell him to train him in his last breath.... He wouldn't not have became the master of Anakin skywalker.... He wish than Qui Gon actually survived the fight with Maul so he could have waited to be ready....

Someone who is ready needn't a master anymore....


"And for future reference it's spelled *Ahsoka not "Ashoka"." is that something new than I write to fast?

Anakin in episode III is not worth of the title of master.......

Only someone who have show the capacity to train an apprentice is allow to train one and the title of master.....

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Who is Ashoka? I only know this one Padawan girl named Ahsoka. She's a pretty Togruta.
You're so whipped and she don't even like you.

Originally posted by Q99
Ashoka has youngling training. A Knight is sufficient rank to get a Padawan


Originally posted by Q99
Obi-Wan was a padawan when he got Anakin after all.


"Confer on you the level of Jedi Knight, the Council does. But agree with your taking this boy as your Padawan learner, I do not!"-Yoda to Obi-wan

Originally posted by Emperordmb

"Confer on you the level of Jedi Knight, the Council does. But agree with your taking this boy as your Padawan learner, I do not!"-Yoda to Obi-wan

Yes, the two happened simultaneously.

The important thing is, one does not have to be a Jedi Master (the rank) to train someone, being a Jedi Knight is plenty, and Anakin was certainly that.

Originally posted by Emperordmb





"Confer on you the level of Jedi Knight, the Council does. But agree with your taking this boy as your Padawan learner, I do not!"-Yoda to Obi-wan

Yhea tellme that wasn't an exception for Obiwan... Normaly Anakin was too young, so he had to be trained by the grandmaster of the order : Yoda.
Obiwan should have the time to became a Jedi Knight.. But Qui Gon die he didn't had the time and to respect the last will of his master, the council put him master like that.

Yess you have to be a Jedi Knght but you have be considered wise enough to be able to teach by the council...
Here the council send her to be sure than Anakin will be wise enough...

Um, no, the problem with Anakin is that he was too old to become a Youngling. Obi-Wan was already ready to become a Knight, and Qui-Gon speaks on this. Finally, Anakin was wise enough to teach. At this point, Anakin is already among the most powerful of the Order, and even if you think he isn't mature enough, his relationship with Ahsoka obviously proves you wrong. The fact that Obi-Wan is always with them due to his personal relationship with Anakin doesn't hurt either. I honestly wonder if your country has the same TPM/TCW as the rest of the world now.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Um, no, the problem with Anakin is that he was too old to become a Youngling. Obi-Wan was already ready to become a Knight, and Qui-Gon speaks on this. Finally, Anakin was wise enough to teach. At this point, Anakin is already among the most powerful of the Order, and even if you think he isn't mature enough, his relationship with Ahsoka obviously proves you wrong. The fact that Obi-Wan is always with them due to his personal relationship with Anakin doesn't hurt either. I honestly wonder if your country has the same TPM/TCW as the rest of the world now.

Revanchiste. Ahsoka isn't a legends character. She is apart of the new canon

She's Legends and canon.

Originally posted by Revanchiste

Yess you have to be a Jedi Knght but you have be considered wise enough to be able to teach by the council...
Here the council send her to be sure than Anakin will be wise enough...

Being a Jedi Knight and being considered wise enough are synonymous.

You get the rank when you are ready.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You're so whipped and she don't even like you. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111145484/4090879-8097761912-spide.gif

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Revanchiste. Ahsoka isn't a legends character. She is apart of the new canon
You will have to make me eat my balls.
Unfortunatly fr you I'm not a contorsionist (Well I can put my legs behind my neck but that's pretty much it...)

I mean the new canon is bullshit.

Well the last comic are prety good, han solo and luke comics...
There is somekind of lincence character explotation but nothing to silly.. The art behind it look's pretty good, nice action...
Many people were surprise by vader feat like any classic Star war fan boy when they see luke solo etc having a new feat even if it make no sens (luke who cut a tie fighter in 2 with his lightsaber for example...)
It was already obvious for me than Vader can do this kind of TK feats...

But good grief. Moraband in the new canon... And ashoka is a part of this dirty section of the new canon.. And how can Bane have a tomb on Korriband? Who build it? And doesn't that compromise the secret of the sith?

Originally posted by Q99
Being a Jedi Knight and being considered wise enough are synonymous.

You get the rank when you are ready.

I agree on the second sentence.. But not the first one.
Only master can teach...

Ha O.k war condition.. I found it...

It say than you can became a master by multiple ways... It's often by training an apprentice.

There is alaso an old law that allow a master to have multiple apprentices and an "apprentice" (not by the title) who is wise enough to teach.

This law end after the battle of Ruusan.

Originally posted by Revanchiste

I agree on the second sentence.. But not the first one.
Only master can teach...

That is simply wrong. Knights have padawans.

Obi-wan the Knight taught Anakin the Padawan.


Quinlan Vos taught Aayla Secura when he was a Knight (he became a master upon her becoming a Knight).

Sharad Hett, a Knight, taught A'Sharad Hett.


Anakin the Knight teaching Ahsoka the Padawan is normal. Especially when the order was so in need of Jedi as it was during the war.


While Masters teach many students, one who is a Knight is also able to teach.

Not only is it simply wrong, it's also fundamentally against the concept of being a Master. To become a Jedi Master, one must train a Padawan to Knighthood. If only Masters could trait Padawans, the Order would fall apart in a generation.

"Masters are known for their mentorship of younger Jedi. Taking on and training a Padawan into Knighthood is one step toward attaining the Rank of Jedi Master. Many Masters take on one Padawan after another, selecting an apprentice immediately following the previous apprentice's passing of the Trials. However not all Knights will choose to follow this path. Jedi Knights who have shown extraordinary service to the republic are sometimes appointed Masters through the special dispensation of the Jedi Council. In addition, Jedi Knights may elect to undergo a modified, more challenging version of the Trials of Knighthood, which, if passed, has often been accepted as a mark of mastery."-Grand Master Fae Coven in the Jedi Path

Training a Padawan to Knighthood is not necessarily required for a Knight to become a Master, but it is certainly the most often Path taken, and Knights can certainly train Padawans.

Originally posted by Revanchiste
Anakin in episode III is not worth of the title of master.......

Only someone who have show the capacity to train an apprentice is allow to train one and the title of master..... i think ur getting confused with the seperate meanings of the word master. U can be a jedi and be the master of a padawan, that doesnt necessarily mean that u have reached the rank of jedi "master".

The first use just indicates the teacher/student or master/apprentice relationship, the second is an indication of rank in the jedi order.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
"Masters are known for their mentorship of younger Jedi. Taking on and training a Padawan into Knighthood is one step toward attaining the Rank of Jedi Master. Many Masters take on one Padawan after another, selecting an apprentice immediately following the previous apprentice's passing of the Trials. However not all Knights will choose to follow this path. Jedi Knights who have shown extraordinary service to the republic are sometimes appointed Masters through the special dispensation of the Jedi Council. In addition, Jedi Knights may elect to undergo a modified, more challenging version of the Trials of Knighthood, which, if passed, has often been accepted as a mark of mastery."-Grand Master Fae Coven in the Jedi Path

Training a Padawan to Knighthood is not necessarily required for a Knight to become a Master, but it is certainly the most often Path taken, and Knights can certainly train Padawans.
Interesting, though not sure how this translates to TCW or the PT.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Interesting, though not sure how this translates to TCW or the PT.
None of the Jedi commenting in Path of the Jedi made a statement disagreeing with it, and she was the Grand Master when Yoda was a padawan. I'd assume it still held true.

Originally posted by Q99
That is simply wrong. Knights have padawans.

Obi-wan the Knight taught Anakin the Padawan.


Quinlan Vos taught Aayla Secura when he was a Knight (he became a master upon her becoming a Knight).

Sharad Hett, a Knight, taught A'Sharad Hett.


Anakin the Knight teaching Ahsoka the Padawan is normal. Especially when the order was so in need of Jedi as it was during the war.


While Masters teach many students, one who is a Knight is also able to teach.

Technicaly In the apprenticeanakin cannot follow obiwan as master if Obiwan don't reach the rank, as Jedi knight he will teach Anakin n the Jedi way... But Anakin won't follow him as a padawan....
Obiwan became a master when Anakin became a padwan. And that was to quick for him.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
None of the Jedi commenting in Path of the Jedi made a statement disagreeing with it, and she was the Grand Master when Yoda was a padawan. I'd assume it still held true.

How old Yoda is in RotJ?
He's 900 years.
When the great galactic war begin?
3643 BBYEcrire begining of ToR the war had begun before...
You are telleming than satele die older than Yoda did?????

Originally posted by Raptor22
i think ur getting confused with the seperate meanings of the word master. U can be a jedi and be the master of a padawan, that doesnt necessarily mean that u have reached the rank of jedi "master".

The first use just indicates the teacher/student or master/apprentice relationship, the second is an indication of rank in the jedi order.

Yeees but master and master of a Padawan is the same thing... Juste there is one who haven't a padwan... Who is just a counsular or something like that.
Master and master of an apprentice I mean the rank below padawan here O.K your master can be a Jedi Knight !

Originally posted by Revanchiste
How old Yoda is in RotJ?
He's 900 years.
When the great galactic war begin?
3643 BBYEcrire begining of ToR the war had begun before...
You are telleming than satele die older than Yoda did?????

No, that was Grand Master Fae Coven who wrote that in The Jedi Path, not Satele Shan.

Originally posted by Revanchiste
Technicaly In the apprenticeanakin cannot follow obiwan as master if Obiwan don't reach the rank, as Jedi knight he will teach Anakin n the Jedi way... But Anakin won't follow him as a padawan....
Obiwan became a master when Anakin became a padwan. And that was to quick for him.

Obi-wan being a knight is why he was able to take Anakin as a padawan.

That's it.

Obi-wan becoming Master had *nothing* to do with Anakin's padawanship. Obi-wan becoming a master is more linked to when Anakin because a full Knight.


You still seem to think he had to become master in order to take Anakin as a padawan, and that is simply not true. There's nothing that indicates that's the case, and there's multiple instances of Knights with Padawans that we know of, including of some fairly famous knights like Aayla Secura.



Fae Coven was the Grand Master directly preceding Yoda, and her words remained true.


And then in Luke's era, he took students while he considered himself a Knight and not yet ready to be called master (Kam Solusar notably, and offering to Kyle Katarn).

Didn't Obi-wan become a master before Anakin was a full knight?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Didn't Obi-wan become a master before Anakin was a full knight?


Yes, but I don't think by much. When Kenobi became a master precisely isn't entirely clear to me, there wasn't a clear story about it like there was Anakin's promotion.

Originally posted by Q99
Yes, but I don't think by much. When Kenobi became a master precisely isn't entirely clear to me, there wasn't a clear story about it like there was Anakin's promotion.
Well it seems Kenobi became a member of the Jedi Council before Anakin's promotion to Knight.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Well it seems Kenobi became a member of the Jedi Council before Anakin's promotion to Knight.

I think he became a Master at the same time he got appointed to the council. He was a Jedi they had their eye on, and when a slot opened, they tapped him.