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Obama is sitting in a lame duck with a abysmal 44% approval rating and the look for 2016 might feature relatives of the past two presidents before Obama.

Obama won't even call ISIS a Islamic extremists. Now it's called "Violent Extremiets"

Sounds like more apologies. At his speechs yesterday it's Americas fault and it's all economic from our imperialism.

And with this latest news about targeting consertive groups and thinking they are more of a threat then ISIS.

http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/02/obama-dhs-right-wing-extremists-greater-threat-than-isis/

Come and dance and defend Obama.

What did he say that was wrong, exactly?

Originally posted by -Pr-
What did he say that was wrong, exactly?
For TI? He started talking.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Obama won't even call ISIS a Islamic extremists. Now it's called "Violent Extremiets"

Aren't they violent? Because many would argue (rightfully) that those random gunners are not representatives of Islam at all.

At least when theocratic bullsh_t governments rule with an iron-hand, some people somewhere take their vacuous claims seriously. Serial rapists and drug dealers seem to only aknowledge each other by their supposedly religious agenda.

Anti-western extremists would be a better term for it.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
For TI? He started talking.

lol.

Honestly though, I don't claim to be any sort of expert in politics, but I did read the article, and for the most part it seemed pretty spot on.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Obama won't even call ISIS a Islamic extremists. Now it's called "Violent Extremiets"

Is Obama separating the word "Islam" from terrorist-groups an issue with you?

Originally posted by Robtard
Is Obama separating the word "Islam" from terrorist-groups an issue with you?

Its a lie.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Its a lie.

Explain

Kareem Abdul Jabar(a Muslim) said "Claiming ISIS represents Islam is like saying the KKK represents Christianity." Both use the religion to further their own agendas like a religious crutch to try and get away with more shit than they would if they just claimed to be what they really are.

And Obama in one speech(can't remember which one) said ISIS doesn't represent Islam, they've perverted what it means for their own ends. Which is true.

And when like 99% of the entire Islamic faith denounces you for all the bad and evil shit you do, I won't call you Islamic either.

Funny thing, GW Bush was very insistent to do the same concerning Islam and terrorist acts/violence, but all the Rightwinger nuts applauded him and never questioned his religious faith because of it.

"Islam is peace." -George W. Bush circa 2001

Originally posted by Robtard


"Islam am peace." -George W. Bush circa 2001

I fixed it...because Bush is an idiot.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Its a lie.

Even if it was true, it doesn't matter. Governments that are unable to lie to save lives aren't worth a dime.

I think he's doing that because ISIS wants to be associated with Islam, it gives them more credibility and credence than just calling them violent thugs (which isn't wrong). Best to deny them that satisfaction.

Originally posted by BackFire
I think he's doing that because ISIS wants to be associated with Islam, it gives them more credibility and credence than just calling them violent thugs (which isn't wrong). Best to deny them that satisfaction.

Careful, now. Calling them "thugs" is racist and it somehow legitimizes everything they are doing.

#FergusonRiotRhetoric

Originally posted by dadudemon
Careful, now. Calling them "thugs" is racist and it somehow legitimizes everything they are doing.

#FergusonRiotRhetoric



They are thugs, are we allowed to call them that or is Omega and Bardock going to call us racist?

Or will they weasel out a "well this is different!!!" GOD DAMMIT!

Originally posted by Time Immemorial


They are thugs, are we allowed to call them that or is Omega and Bardock going to call us racist?


Do you remember that bullshit? That calling the thuggish and criminal behavior of those rioting in Ferguson was somehow "racist" and it proves that they need to riot?

Lame.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Do you remember that bullshit? That calling the thuggish and criminal behavior of those rioting in Ferguson was somehow "racist" and it proves that they need to riot?

Lame.

Oh I remember, but the word "thug" around these parts means we are racist.

Even if that is true, why does that matter? Does memorizing passages of the Bible make one a better Christian?

Edit: I'd also add that considering how involved the US is with the Islamic world, having an educated president is only a bonus

So the guy who says he's Christian and not Muslim does not know any bible verses but knows the Koran from memory.

Rob your not that stupid.

He suddied Islam when he was younger, this isn't a secret. If you dont recall the right wingmuts would constantly post pics of him in traditinal garb as a young man; usually next to the "born in Kenya" rants

I can recite passages from the bible, does this make me a Christian?

Originally posted by Robtard
He suddied Islam when he was younger, this isn't a secret. If you dont recall the right wingmuts would constantly post pics of him in traditinal garb as a young man; usually next to the "born in Kenya" rants

Hmm, so a guy that name is Islamic, has Islamic advisors in the White House, studied Islam, knows the Koran by memory, went to Pakistan, respects the Muslim religion and beliefs and traditions so much. But Americans and Christian traditions must be changed. Is a Christian and not Muslim. Keep drinking that coolade.

Yes, he has a scary name to a lot of people

Yes, he hires people relevant to the current geopolitical environment

Yes, he's educated in more than one religion (iirc, he's mentioned Buddhism before too)

Yes, he can remember things he specifically studied

Yes, he has travelled

Yes, he respects something he both was and previously studied

Conclusion: Obama must be a secret Muslim

Better watch out. TI might be the next man on that grassy knoll with the way he's going.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, he has a scary name to a lot of people

Yes, he hires people relevant to the crrent geopolitical environment

Yes, he's educated in more than one religion

Yes, he can remember things he specifiicly studied

Yes, he has travelled

Yes, he respects something he both was and previously studied

Conclusion: Obama must be a secret Muslim

If it quacks like a duck, its a duck.

Whats funny is ignore all showing and defend him tooth and nail despite the obvious answer.

Obama is about as Christian as you.

Originally posted by KingD19
Better watch out. TI might be the next man on that grassy knoll with the way he's going.

You better watch out saying that kinda stuff and reported.

Well i can recite passages from the Bible from memory, so I must be a Christian

Originally posted by Robtard
Well i can recite passages from the Bible from memory, so I must be a Christian

Texas sharpshooter but you failed to hit your target.

Calling Obama a Christian because he says he is, but wants to change Christianity in America? Defends Islam openly. Are you serious?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Texas sharpshooter but you failed to hit your target.

Calling Obama a Christian because he says he is, but wants to change Christianity in America? Defends Islam openly. Are you serious?

Bullseye each and every time

How does he want to "change Christianity in America"? I feel it's possible you've either read some BS "obama is evil" spam email again or mistook something he's said. Btw, GW Bush deeply respects and defends Islam, is he a secret Muslim too?

Originally posted by Robtard
Bullseye each and every time

How does he want to "change Christianity in America"? I feel it's possible you've either read some BS "obama is evil" spam email again or mistook something he's said. Btw, GW Bush deeply respects and defends Islam, is he a secret Muslim too?

Your fallback is always Bush. Arn't you tired of blaming Bush for all your problems that you have to shield Obama with. Thats the only answer for Obama's reason, its Bush..Obama will never be accountable to you because of Bush, even though he's had two terms.

So a dodge then

Originally posted by Robtard
So a dodge then

You deflected to Bush.

I asked you a question on a like comparison; that was after I asked you to support your claim. Two questins, two dodges

Originally posted by Robtard
I asked you a question on a like comparison

Did Bush take trips to Pakistan, or have an Islamic name, did he write papers on Islam in college, did he make apologies for America constatnly?

Again, Obama's Muslim past isn't a secret, he's open about it.

I'm also pretty sure Obama didn't pick his name, say like Muhammad Ali, he was born with it. So you're being beyond rediculous here.

Of course Bush has, most presidents do during their term. A relevant example coming to mind is Bush apologizing to the Iraqi PM for the "desecration" of a Koran by an active US soldier. Conclusion: Bush is a secret Muslim?

Originally posted by Robtard
Again, Obama's Muslim past isn't a secret, he's open about it.

I'm also pretty sure Obama didn't pick his name, say like Muhammad Ali, he was born with it. So you're being beyond rediculous here.

Of course Bush has, most presidents during their term. A relevant example coming to mind is Bush apologism to the Iraqi PM for the "desecration" of a Koran by an active US soldier. Conclusion: Bush is a Muslim?

You know your point is BS and I know you don't even believe it.

Ill take point on this.

Nope

Rob you don't even care, all you care about is being politically correct.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Hmm, so a guy that name is Islamic, has Islamic advisors in the White House, studied Islam, knows the Koran by memory, went to Pakistan, respects the Muslim religion and beliefs and traditions so much. But Americans and Christian traditions must be changed. Is a Christian and not Muslim. Keep drinking that coolade.




Not that I fully agree with everything Obama has done but what is your basis for that underlined statement, TI? In what ways has he gave the impression to you that he thinks they "must be changed"?

You have listened or heard of all his speeches when he goes overseas apologizing for America. Literally he can't leave the country without offering up "uncle" speeches for us.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Rob you don't even care, all you care about is being politically correct.

Ok fine, you got me. Obama is a Kenyan born secret Muslim who wants to turn the US into an Islamic country by undermining America's inherent Christianity, if not destroy it.

Better?

DDM's upset that I mocked him for trying to play Thread Topic Moderator, he's also incorrectly accusing me of a fallacy, he likes to do that. Be strong though, TI, be strong

PS, despite how hard DDM insist, Muslims are not a "race"

Originally posted by Robtard
DDM's upset that I mocked him for trying to play Thread Topic Moderator, he's also incorrectly accusing me of a fallacy, he likes to do that. Be strong though, TI, be strong

Were your feelings really hurt by me pointing out the obvious?


What you were really supposed to have taken from my comment about racist cops was, "lol" or even, "it is sad how this isn't obvious to some people."

Then we could have had a bro-moment and fist-bumped.


Instead, you got all pregnant and swollen-footed on me. "Waaaah, stop criticizing me threads!"

Originally posted by Robtard
PS, despite how hard DDM insist, Muslims are not a "race"

Hey, it's not me calling TI racist for his comments regarding Muslims.

Also, be amazed at my abilities to understand your broken English.

"Ironman, Ironman, does whatever an iron can"

Maybe TI is bigoted but not racist.

DDM is an officer and a gentlemen.

I think we should just call a spade a spade.

A bigoted but possibly not racist spade?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Time Immemorial, you fell for a very old and basic argumentation "trick." It is the red herring. Your original point was the double-standard Obama is applying to Christians vs. Muslims and Robtard tricked you into arguing about something else. Of course, someone could come into this thread and argue that you're a "Muzzie hater" and have been trying to paint Obama as a Muslim over the course of many months, now. I know for a fact that you don't hate Muslims or Islam. You hate extremist assholes. But that hasn't stopped people from trying to throw the racism card at you.





That "portrayal" has always irritated me. I've attended Catholic Mass on multiple occasions. If someone were to snap a picture, they could claim that I'm openly Mormon and a closet Catholic. That's rather dumb.




Also, one final thought on this particular topic: it doesn't really matter if Obama is Muslim. What bothers people like Time Immemorial is that Obama may be lying about his religion simply to have gotten elected. Of course, I personally believe Obama is agnostic or even atheist. Time Immemorial's issue with Obama is his absurd lies. I do not necessarily agree with the notion that Obama is a Muslim but I do understand why it irritates people like TI that Obama claims to be a Christian. I will say reading TI's comments he definitely comes off as bigoted.

If TI were just upset that Obama were lying about being a Christian that is what he should say.

Instead we get is him trying to specifically confirm that Obama is a Muslim. His other statement of Obama trying to change Christian And American values also points to a general bigoted opinion about the current president and Muslims in general.

Basically his comments comes off as Obama is a Muslim and he is inherently trying to break down our traditional Christian based American morals. Maybe that is not what he meant but that is how he comes off. It's that inherit connection between destroying America and being Muslim that people try to make that comes off as bigoted and racist at times. Seriously even if Obama were a Muslim is shouldn't matter but TI's comments make it sound like if Obama were a Muslim that would be a bad thing.

Also Rob's points are not invalid nor was he trying to change the argument. He was simply trying to point out a similar circumstance where someone was treated differently.

Also I do not think Obama is lying about his religion. Just because he looks into other religions do not matter. Most Americans I would say are some form of agnostic even though they claim to be Christian. It's not uncommon for Christians to look to other religions or study them or to not even truly follow their own supposed tenets.

Once again because of the above singling out Obama for his Muslim backgrounds still comes as hypocritical or bigoted towards Muslims or looking for something to hate about the President.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
A bigoted but possibly not racist spade?

No, that's what I mean. It's not just bigoted, or ignorant, or prejudiced, or from a different era...it's racist, and the people doing it are racists. We don't need to coddle them, cause they feel bad about being called racists.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Come and dance and defend Obama.

Lol. Come dance and defend Obama? So, what, you can sneeringly reinforce your existing beliefs? I can't imagine the scenario going on in your head. We're on a backwater discussion board, dude. A little self-awareness goes a long way.

And, since any reply to you in these threads equals vegan-humping liberalism, I feel the need to add that I didn't vote for Obama in the last election. This isn't a political post, it's a post on your tone.

My name is Qasim, an Arabic name. Does that make me a secret Muslim as well?

I jerk off to Arab porn. I'm sure my dick points to Mecca at some point during.

Muslim.

I actually have to credit TI for giving me a great idea for a flash fiction piece. It turned out great, I'm going to start sending it out to magazines.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I actually have to credit TI for giving me a great idea for a flash fiction piece. It turned out great, I'm going to start sending it out to magazines.

Uhh, is it the kind of idea that will get the magazine's office shot up?

Originally posted by Newjak
I will say reading TI's comments he definitely comes off as bigoted.

If TI were just upset that Obama were lying about being a Christian that is what he should say.

Instead we get is him trying to specifically confirm that Obama is a Muslim. His other statement of Obama trying to change Christian And American values also points to a general bigoted opinion about the current president and Muslims in general.

Basically his comments comes off as Obama is a Muslim and he is inherently trying to break down our traditional Christian based American morals. Maybe that is not what he meant but that is how he comes off. It's that inherit connection between destroying America and being Muslim that people try to make that comes off as bigoted and racist at times. Seriously even if Obama were a Muslim is shouldn't matter but TI's comments make it sound like if Obama were a Muslim that would be a bad thing.

Also Rob's points are not invalid nor was he trying to change the argument. He was simply trying to point out a similar circumstance where someone was treated differently.

Also I do not think Obama is lying about his religion. Just because he looks into other religions do not matter. Most Americans I would say are some form of agnostic even though they claim to be Christian. It's not uncommon for Christians to look to other religions or study them or to not even truly follow their own supposed tenets.

Once again because of the above singling out Obama for his Muslim backgrounds still comes as hypocritical or bigoted towards Muslims or looking for something to hate about the President.

I do not believe TI is a Christian. IIRC, he is agnostic or atheist.

And, yes, it would be a bad thing if Obama was a secret Muslim. But it has nothing to do with the exact fact that the secret religion is "Islam." It could Buddhist or Hindu for all it matters. The issue is his lying about his religion...and everything else. Libtards were sure to jump all over McCain's ass about his probable agnosticism because he didn't go to church very often. Obviously, you should expect critiques to be thrown at Obama for his not-so-Christian-friendly ideals because he specifically espouses "Christianity" as his religion.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Obama is sitting in a lame duck with a abysmal 44% approval rating and the look for 2016 might feature relatives of the past two presidents before Obama.

Obama won't even call ISIS a Islamic extremists. Now it's called "Violent Extremiets"

Sounds like more apologies. At his speechs yesterday it's Americas fault and it's all economic from our imperialism.

And with this latest news about targeting consertive groups and thinking they are more of a threat then ISIS.

http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/02/obama-dhs-right-wing-extremists-greater-threat-than-isis/

Come and dance and defend Obama.

I don't support Obama at all and i think he and his administration could be doing more to create a unifying effort against, ISIS. However, i don't think his decision to not focus on the religious aspect of ISIS is wrong. I'm not sure if it's even worth arguing because it's such a trivial aspect of the crimes against humanity that they're committing. I think focusing on their beliefs would do nothing but separate people even more. Their actions and agenda are what important. Once people start arguing about their beliefs, i think people start to lose sight of whats important. It's not Islam against the world but rather terrorism against the world. This group respects nothing but their own agenda and i would argue that many of them involved don't even know what that is.

Originally posted by Lestov16
My name is Qasim, an Arabic name. Does that make me a secret Muslim as well? Your love of Jack Bauer points to your hatred of Muslims, if anything.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The issue is his lying about his religion...and everything else.
This is almost a non-sequitir. How do we get from "Obama might be lying about one issue" to "Obama is lying about everything?"

I'm not following your logic.

True

Originally posted by dadudemon
I do not believe TI is a Christian. IIRC, he is agnostic or atheist.


No, he's a Christian, or at least belives Jesus is the son of God/God and his personal savior.

Edit: unless he's recently stopped believing

Originally posted by Omega Vision
This is almost a non-sequitir. How do we get from "Obama might be lying about one issue" to "Obama is lying about everything?"

I'm not following your logic.

Well, if your point wasn't a strawman, it may not see seem so non sequitur. Obviously, Obama isn't lying about everything. That is very obviously hyperbole. Consider that I have brought up the factual points in which Obama lied and told the truth, in the past, if you strongly considered that hyperbole to be my actual position.

But why are you having difficulty understanding that the actual point is "he's a f*cking liar"? Where's the disconnect? When have I ever held a position contrary? Why do you think Obama's probable lies regarding his religious beliefs are prerequisite to entertaining all of this other lies? Why can they not all be separate lies in their own right? This is why I'm having trouble understanding why you would even call it a non sequitur. To me, trying to apply a "line of reasoning" that leads "from this to that" is a non sequitur.

This is the most ridiculous shit ever holy crap American politics is dumb.

Originally posted by Nephthys
This is the most ridiculous shit ever holy crap American politics is dumb.

Yes, they are dumb. And American voters are highly uninformed which makes the situation worse.


Here's an example of how stupid American voters can be:

Skw-0jv9kts

Originally my post was about how stupid you and TI are but I thought that would be too aggressive.

Seriously, Obama is a secret Muslim who tricked his way into the White House? Is he a diamond thief and a member of the Legion of Doom as well?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes, they are dumb. And American voters are highly uninformed which makes the situation worse.


Here's an example of how stupid American voters can be:

Skw-0jv9kts Would have been better if he asked the people who said no why they weren't.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Seriously, Obama is a secret Muslim who tricked his way into the White House? Is he a diamond thief and a member of the Legion of Doom as well?

You clearly didn't read my words.

I'll quote them for you so you will not post ignorant stuff like this:

Originally posted by dadudemon
Of course, I personally believe Obama is agnostic or even atheist. Time Immemorial's issue with Obama is his absurd lies. I do not necessarily agree with the notion that Obama is a Muslim but I do understand why it irritates people like TI that Obama claims to be a Christian.




But, keep in mind, I'm "stupid."

Originally posted by Mindset
Would have been better if he asked the people who said no why they weren't.

I would have called him on all of those points and said, "No, that is stuff Obama has already done." I thought his approach was perfect. An informed voter would have called him on his stunt/bullshit. A blind supporter would have done what they did.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Originally my post was about how stupid you and TI are but I thought that would be too aggressive.

Seriously, Obama is a secret Muslim who tricked his way into the White House? Is he a diamond thief and a member of the Legion of Doom as well?

Not going to lie, My opinion of Obama would actually improve if the above were actually true.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Why do you think Obama's probable lies regarding his religious beliefs are prerequisite to entertaining all of this other lies?
I don't think that. That's what I thought you thought. But I guess I was wrong. You should think about me thinking about you thinking about that.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't think that. That's what I thought you thought. But I guess I was wrong. You should think about me thinking about you thinking about that.

Okay, cool.


And I'm a thinking about that very hard right now. Brow is very furrowed, like so:

http://i.imgur.com/F7U8yR4t.jpg

Originally posted by dadudemon


I would have called him on all of those points and said, "No, that is stuff Obama has already done." I thought his approach was perfect. An informed voter would have called him on his stunt/bullshit. A blind supporter would have done what they did. His approach was terrible. He gave people who said they wouldn't vote for Obama a free pass, and questioned everyone who said they would. He ruins a legitimate point of his video by being blatantly bias.

It's essentially just Obama-haters porn.

Originally posted by Nephthys
This is the most ridiculous shit ever holy crap American politics is dumb.


All politics are dumb.

Originally posted by Mindset
His approach was terrible. He gave people who said they wouldn't vote for Obama a free pass, and questioned everyone who said they would. He ruins a legitimate point of his video by being blatantly bias.


I didn't notice that or see that (that he ignored the non-Obama voters). However, why does that diminish his point even slightly? I thought his point was about the ignorant Obama-machine where people were voting for Obama because of his celebrity, despite strongly disagreeing with his polices? He seemed to make that point quite clear.

And the first "stone" like this was about McCain in 2008. A similar video was done to show how ignorant people were that were going to vote for McCain (essentially, that video was a copy of something another group did to McCain supporters in 2008).

Originally posted by Mindset
It's essentially just Obama-haters porn.

For me, it was, "American voters are highly uninformed and vote blindly" porn. It proves one of my petty irritations about American politics that I had suspected for years.



You do bring up a good point. He could have highly editorialized his video. He may have interviewed 50 people and those 4-ish people were the only ones ignorant enough to make his point. However, that's highly unlikely. Even Americans, overwhelmingly, think that Americans are uninformed voters.

But, to clear that suspicion that this interviewer doctored his interviews, here is Howard Stern (liberal/libertarian) who states at the beginning of his video that he's playing "all ten of his interviews":

SeJbOU4nmHQ


Here's another video about this 2008 election that is similar:

mm1KOBMg1Y8



And here's an article that talks about some of the details about how truly ignorant American voters are (without the taint of Ziegler's clear anti-Obama slant):

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-oe-goldberg31jul31-column.html



Again, I'd like to point out that the first time I saw a video like the one I posted earlier, it was about McCain supporters. This has nothing to do with how ignorant Obama supporters are, specifically, and everything to do with how ignorant the average American voter is.



I've proposed a very fascist and very dumb idea that would require Americans take a US Political Proficiency test. This test would require that a potential American voter prove that they know how the US Political process works and that they are informed of the candidates' positions to a reasonable extent. This does not take care of the lying that the politicians due (such as the absurdly long list of broken promises Obama has) but it would be a large step in eliminating ignorant votes. Here's why this is a bad idea: we had something like this, already, known as the "Grandfather Clause." It's a real shame. I mean well but it would clearly have a disparate impact on protected demographics such as "race."* However, and to the shock of many racist white people, I believe the Latino citizens, who naturalized, would be one of the most informed voting demographics.

*Meaning, it would get shot down by the Supreme Court (if it even made it that far) because it would violate amendments and laws.

Pick out 1 main point of your post you want me to respond to, I lead a busy life.

LOL. That video proves nothing. He only sampled an extremely small fraction of a tiny fraction of voters who, judging from their accents, were all yankees. Probably all from New York since several were wearing clothing supporting the New York Yankees.

Posting a video that shows such a tiny sampling of American voters who all happen to be from the same place and saying "Hey, look how dumb Americans are" is just genuine American hate. Reality check for you DDD: voters from any country can be dumb. I guess everyone from your P-O-S country are all goddamn geniuses, huh?


Here's a brilliant idea for you, "genius": Since American politics "irritate" you as you say then why not just ignore them idiot instead of coming on here spouting your mouth off about how stupid Americans are you ignorant jackass? Now I remember why I had your *** on ignore in the first place.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I do not believe TI is a Christian. IIRC, he is agnostic or atheist.

And, yes, it would be a bad thing if Obama was a secret Muslim. But it has nothing to do with the exact fact that the secret religion is "Islam." It could Buddhist or Hindu for all it matters. The issue is his lying about his religion...and everything else. Libtards were sure to jump all over McCain's ass about his probable agnosticism because he didn't go to church very often. Obviously, you should expect critiques to be thrown at Obama for his not-so-Christian-friendly ideals because he specifically espouses "Christianity" as his religion. So because something that may or may not have been done to McCain, I have never heard of him being attacked for his self proclaimed religious status, I must now except the same for Obama even if I do not agree with it?

Truthfully I could care less what the President's religion is along as it doesn't have things like Human Sacrifice that he is trying to push to be active.

Also everyone lies about something. Whether to other people or even themselves. Hopefully Obama is not lying or hopefully his lies are not getting people killed. If his lies were harming people then I would care.

As it stands he says he is Christian other than people trying to convince the world he is a secret muslim I do not see anything to really say he isn't or that it really is that big of a concern.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
A bigoted but possibly not racist spade?

I would say I am pretty color blind. I have two of my cousins are mixed race, one of long time best friends is black.

Many of my friends are of many race/ethnicity. I have lived in the south much off life and traveled the world and experiencedsny cultures.

Iirc you said black people made you cautios so I think you are pretty racist from that statement. You just are a spinning hypocrite.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I would say I am pretty color blind. I have two of my cousins are mixed race, one of long time best friends is black.

Many of my friends are of many race/ethnicity. I have lived in the south much off life and traveled the world and experiencedsny cultures.

Iirc you said black people made you cautios so I think you are pretty racist from that statement. You just are a spinning hypocrite.
I admit subconscious racism. You hide behind an illusion of colorblindness. We have to take your word for it that you never have racist thoughts, whereas I laid it out that I do have racist thoughts and I try to work on that part of me.

You can call me a hypocrite if you want, but at least I'm not a coward who won't face up to his own failings.

http://jacksonville.com/news/2013-11-26/story/fact-check-obamas-ring-subject-speculation

Nuff said

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
http://jacksonville.com/news/2013-11-26/story/fact-check-obamas-ring-subject-speculation

Nuff said

So Obama is a christian? Who cares?

Originally posted by Bentley
So Obama is a christian? Who cares?

Christians don't wear rings that say "There is no god but Allah"

^^ LOL. No, he only claims he is a Christian. But it's looking more and more like he is actually a Muslim. Did you even read the article?

Originally posted by Star428
^^ LOL. No, he only claims he is a Christian. But it's looking more and more like he is actually a Muslim. Did you even read the article?

People actually believe he is Christian? LMAO

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Christians don't wear rings that say "There is no god but Allah"

The article implies he might've never worn that ring. Did you read it?

Originally posted by Bentley
The article implies he might've never worn that ring. Did you read it?

He wore the ring..

http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/10/OBAMA-RING-wh-photo-THERE-IS-NO-GOD-EXCEPT-ALLAH1.jpg

Cool.

So Obama is a muslim? Can't say I care. Hope it becomes official so US has an historical muslim government

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
People actually believe he is Christian? LMAO


I can't speak for anyone else but I'm pretty suspicious of his claim that he is.

Originally posted by Star428
I can't speak for anyone else but I'm pretty suspicious of his claim that he is.

Only the select idiots at KMC believe that. Which you are not included in.

He could do and say and wear a ring that says "there is no god but Allah"

But by GOD, if he says he is a Christian, well darn people believe him.

Its like brainwashing.

Originally posted by Bentley
Cool.

So Obama is a muslim? Can't say I care. Hope it becomes official so US has an historical muslim government



Of course you don't care because you're not American. I can understand that. Makes perfect sense... Me, though? I'm so sick of hearing about the ****ing royals all the damn time. AOL constantly prints stupid stories about them and their brat kid. LOL. Taking up news space headlines that could be something much more important. As if the royals have any relevance to American lives whatsoever. LOL.

Originally posted by Bentley
The article implies he might've never worn that ring. Did you read it?

Wait a minute, did you read the article or look at the pictures?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He wore the ring..

http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/10/OBAMA-RING-wh-photo-THERE-IS-NO-GOD-EXCEPT-ALLAH1.jpg

Pic

Originally posted by Bentley
Cool.

So Obama is a muslim? Can't say I care. Hope it becomes official so US has an historical muslim government

Oh wait, now you believe after seeing the pic? Did you miss the pics in the article or just not read it at all?

I read it, but the statements were quite fragmented into different argumentations, from one it was saying that arab readers couldn't make any words on it, for others it's unlikely for a muslim to wear gold unless there is a certain sacred engraving to it. From the text I gathered that there wasn't any overwhelming evidence of the ring being anything of importance, and mostly that it didn't matter because Obama would've essentially commited blasphemy by openly stating he was a christian. Either he's a rather un-muslim muslim or he isn't one at all, the difference is rather irrelevant.

Maybe we should all just ignore the racist.

So Snopes says it's bullshit. Yea, I figured. This nonsense about Obama being secretly a Muslim needs to stop already.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Christians don't wear rings that say "There is no god but Allah"

Says who?

Anecdotal, but I've seen non-Christians with Crucifixes, non-Buddhist with Oms (usually tattoos, they're popular) and I've seen a Christian with a Star of David pendant(cos Jesus was a Jew, did you know?)

Originally posted by Bentley
I read it, but the statements were quite fragmented into different argumentations, from one it was saying that arab readers couldn't make any words on it, for others it's unlikely for a muslim to wear gold unless there is a certain sacred engraving to it. From the text I gathered that there wasn't any overwhelming evidence of the ring being anything of importance, and mostly that it didn't matter because Obama would've essentially commited blasphemy by openly stating he was a christian. Either he's a rather un-muslim muslim or he isn't one at all, the difference is rather irrelevant.

http://41.media.tumblr.com/a83af646acf704b67fbdd6e67da3b2cd/tumblr_n2v00lKqiJ1rutv92o1_1280.jpg

Roughly translated to: "One Ring to rule them all, One ring to find them; One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them."

OMG I KNEW IT!

But I can see him, I don't think that ring is the real deal

What a total noob.

Fact: The One Ring does not turn its true owner invisible

Is that a fact though?

A factual fact that's backed up with facts

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/o6gSmNy7ptE/hqdefault.jpg

What's Obama doing in that armor?

Preparing to take command of his drone army and declare himself Forever President come 2016, don't you follow the alarmist news or something?

Keep dancing Rob

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNCklX2wZy4

You still think he is "Christian"

Thoughts anyone?

2wF_n-gn-Yo

Rob I was hoping for a response.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Thoughts anyone?

2wF_n-gn-Yo



LOL.

Rob won't show his face on this one..I mean with all of Obama's changing birthdays and when he does not even know when his own bday does, how could he possibly explain it

Damn, I bet Obama isn't even half black.

Originally posted by Mindset
Damn, I bet Obama isn't even half black.

Seriously though, how do you not remember when your birthday is.

The only way I could see is if he's actually a robot.

They don't have birthdays.

Originally posted by Mindset
The only way I could see is if he's actually a robot.

They don't have birthdays.



This is actually a good answer.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Thoughts anyone?

2wF_n-gn-Yo

So he said "next week" instead of "a few weeks". Oh shit! First time a President has ever said something both incorrect and irrelevant.

I've forgotten my age before. I had to count it out on my fingers.

Originally posted by Ms Chelle
I've forgotten my age before. I had to count it out on my fingers.

That means you're a Kenyan born secret Muslim

Originally posted by Robtard
So he said "next week" instead of "a few weeks". Oh shit! First time a President has ever said something both incorrect and irrelevant.

Its true different birthdays have been reported by him though. Sometimes I wonder if he has trouble keeping up with all those birth certificates.

Originally posted by Ms Chelle
I've forgotten my age before. I had to count it out on my fingers. Yea, but you're dumb.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, but you're dumb.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Its true different birthdays have been reported by him though. Sometimes I wonder if he has trouble keeping up with all those birth certificates.



Look at it this way, if he's a "Kenyan born" secret Muslim like you think, he would have had to have help from both sides to go this far. Now, do you think that's more plausible than say the guy making goofs about his birthday?

Originally posted by Robtard
Look at it this way, if he's a "Kenyan born" secret Muslim like you think, he would have had to have help from both sides to go this far. Now, do you think that's more plausible than say the guy making goofs about his birthday?

I always know when its my bday, but hey I'm not president.

Speaking of which, next bday, Ill be expecting a good ole sucking from ya.

Originally posted by Robtard
That means you're a Kenyan born secret Muslim Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, but you're dumb. Same thing, apparently.

Ilu <3

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Obama is sitting in a lame duck with a abysmal 44% approval rating and the look for 2016 might feature relatives of the past two presidents before Obama.


Do people not get what a lame duck is? It's not 'second term president.'

A lame duck is after the next election for the position is held and there's a president elect. He won't be a lame duck for some time.


Also, the average approval rating for a president in their 25th quarter like this is... 46%.


GWB's at this point was 34. Reagan's was 45.

It's almost the definition of average!

Also, it's up and down, he's gotten as high as 50% in recent weeks. Right now he's 45.

Obama has boring-as-heck approval ratings.

Wasn't sure where to put this, but this seems to be the Obama hate thread, so I will put it here
http://www.vox.com/2015/3/26/8296863/mcmorris-rodgers-obamacare

lol