Kyp Durron/Barsenthor vs. Jaina Solo/Darth Nox

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carthage
*Force match only

*Morals off

Nephthys
Well Jaina basically admitted inferiority to Kyp. But maybe she improved after that.

As ever I'm undecided on Nox vs 'Thor.

AncientPower
Jaina most certainly improved after that.

Nox beats Thor because Thor's only shot is based in theory whereas Nox can just outfight her competition. Conversely Nox beats Kyp through immortality and Jaina is much better in combat than Thor is.

Team 2 wins.

Trocity
Originally posted by AncientPower
Jaina most certainly improved after that.

Nox beats Thor because Thor's only shot is based in theory whereas Nox can just outfight her competition. Conversely Nox beats Kyp through immortality and Jaina is much better in combat than Thor is.

Team 2 wins.

Agreed.

Nephthys
Originally posted by AncientPower
Jaina most certainly improved after that.

Nox beats Thor because Thor's only shot is based in theory whereas Nox can just outfight her competition. Conversely Nox beats Kyp through immortality and Jaina is much better in combat than Thor is.

Team 2 wins.

Isn't it only a few years afterwards that's Jaina's peak? How much did she improve by?

How is Thor's only shot a theory? She has some of the best feats of any Jedi. Certainly better than Jaina. Even in sabers Thor has blitzed Sith Lords and Rakatan Wardroids. She's smashed through house-sized blast doors and "impenetrable" vaultdoors, tanked explosions that obliterate blast doors, casually chucked bus-sized chunks of metal all of which while weakened and before her prime. What does Jaina have that compares to the Barsen'thor's Force power? And combat-wise yeah Jaina defeated a highly debilitated Caedus, but conversely Thor defeated Vivicar who was amping himself on the power of hundreds of Jedi Masters and she defeated him in a highly debilitated state, after fighting through legions of troops. Before her prime. That's a superior combat showing. She's also almost singlehandedly conquered multiple fortresses that were specifically designed to be infallible. The Barsen'thor embodies true skill for a reason. Saying Jaina is "much better" than her in combat just isn't true.

AncientPower
She essentially had a oneness moment that put her confidence through the roof and FOTJ compares her to Luke in combat ability twice.

Jaina is the reason Caedus was debilitated in the first place, a fact people choose to ignore. She blitzed Sith Sabers and Vong Warlords whilst either debuffed by Kaas or with useless legs.
Jaina doesn't have the kind of 'oooh shiny' feats that SWTOR shoves up every character's ass but she has taken internal Force Usage to the highest degrees, though I don't feel like writing a respect thread for her.

Nephthys
Luke's inconsistent as shit. As I recall Horn got the best of him in sabers one time.

And Thor blitzed a Sith Lord while on a darkside nexus as well iirc.
Swtor has considerably less "oooh shiny" feats than other mediums and materials (novels especially). Nox and Thor are just the two exceptions with extensive feats. Regardless Jaina hasn't got what it takes to resist Thor in the Force. She'd get beaten black and blue by her TK.

carthage
Thor is more powerful than Jaina imo

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