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No prep no BFR, midtown Manhattan.

How durable is Graviton sans any type of forcefields? Since he will definitely be getting blitzed by Nefaria.

Can Nefaria get through his force field though? He certainly won't be overpowering the gravity fields that held Hulk and Thor pinned to the ground while Graviton monologued.

Originally posted by KingD19
Can Nefaria get through his force field though? He certainly won't be overpowering the gravity fields that held Hulk and Thor pinned to the ground while Graviton monologued.

Well I don't think he could get through the forcefield, but Graviton could not create one in time unless he has autoshields.

They are pretty much auto-shields. It'll take longer for Nefaria to get to him than it'll take for him to put the shields up.

Originally posted by KingD19
They are pretty much auto-shields. It'll take longer for Nefaria to get to him than it'll take for him to put the shields up.

Unless Graviton has superhuman reflexes..yeah Nefaria can get to him before he can react.

Graviton wins.

Originally posted by Surtur
Unless Graviton has superhuman reflexes..yeah Nefaria can get to him before he can react.

Well he's instantly pinned every hero on the planet including the Avengers fighting him to the ground. Including guys like Thor, Cap, etc... who are generally pretty fast.

And he's also a genius, he'd put his shields up as soon as the fight started.

Originally posted by KingD19
Well he's instantly pinned every hero on the planet including the Avengers fighting him to the ground. Including guys like Thor, Cap, etc... who are generally pretty fast.

Okay but Thor and Captain America don't really compare.



Well..I don't think you need to be a genius to know that you should put your shield up as soon as possible if the guy you are fighting can punch your head off.

Graviton has auto shields.

iirc his base durability is pretty high. cn is def fast, but i don't see him ko'ing graviton before graviton can set up a shield or make it impossible for him to move. i'm a huge cn fan, but i don't see him winning this against a non-pisless graviton.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Graviton has auto shields.
Agreed.
That said CN side needs other tactics here.

Nefaria from the Avengers/Thunderbolts crossover may have been more powerful than the Avengers story mentioned above.

Graviton probably wins, he doesn't seem to have any power limits, just psychological limitations.

Moonstone noted something similar.