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Standard gear for both:
Batsuit, utility belt, batarangs
phaser, tricorder

No vehicles or help

Searching for each other in an abandoned amusement park.

Oh boy, I can just see this ending in blood and tears... Oh well, time to live dangerously!

I am going to say Batman. He specialises in stealth and I think his combat skills are superior. Spock probably has an enhanced physique, but I think the armored Batsuit will compensate for that.

Of course, what will probably happen is that they end up having a titanic chess battle, and leave respecting each other as equals, but since those are not the rules, I'll put my money on Batman.

Against Movie Batman I'd say Spock would outsmart him. Probably not beat him in a fight.

Also RIP Nimmoy. *goes in corner and cries*

Assuming this is nuSpock and Baleman, I am leaning towards Spock, if the fight gets to H2H. If Bane's hits can hurt Bruce through his suit, Spock's hits will too. And Spock is faster than Bane. That being said, they start off hunting each other, which is more to Batman's strengths.

If Bats can get the drop on Spock and take him out quickly, he wins. If this gets into a prolonged H2H battle I think Spock takes it.

Batman takes this fight, he's better at stealth, has better weapons and even with socks superior strength the suit will soak a lot of that up in a h2h scenario

This comes down to whether or not Batman can beat a person with a gun. If you think Batman would lose in a fight against someone with a gun then he would certainly lose here, otherwise, pointy ears loses.

Is this Baleman or Batman from the most recent animated movie?

Spock wins, he's an alien hybrid.

Spock easily finds Batman with his tricoder and wins via phaser stun or physically beats Batman into the dirt with his mighty Vulcan (considered full blood physically) muscles

This thread isn't even close, it's a near stomp in Spocks favor

I did find it funny how certain people said that Baleman has better weapons than Spock and would pull the stealth trick.

It's like they have no idea about what a phaser or tricorder can do.

Yeah. Batman has no device to hide him from the Tricorder. And he's not that great a fighter. Spock is stronger than Bane. And his Phaser is rapid fire with a pretty much unlimited battery source. He can spam it all day long.

Originally posted by KingD19
Spock is stronger than Bane.

Spock vs Baleman? Spock wtf stomps. He'd phuck up Baleman and Bane at the same time.

This is a dude who fought Khan almost equally. He knows how to fight, and his race is 3 (or was it 5?) times stronger than a normal human. Don't know how anybody is supporting Batman.

Bane's punching of a decorative column aside, IMO Spock did appear stronger.

I blindly support Batman because of reasons.

Originally posted by Dreampanther


Let me explain it for you.

Romulans and Vulcans(Spock's race) are genetic cousins and are on average 2-3x stronger than a human, and that's just on average. It's not taking into account if a Vulcan was ripped like Brock Lesnar or something.

Khan was genetically engineered and was 5x stronger than a human. Spock was fighting him for a pretty decent amount of time and actually made Khan work for his win. Compare that to Kirk, a decently strong guy from constant exercise, training, and fighting. And probably a bit stronger than people in our day and age due to advances in science and medicine. Kirk got like 15 free face shots and he put his all into every single one. Khan didn't even flinch.

If you think Bane is stronger than Spock, put him in that fist fight with Khan and tell me how good you think he does.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Spock vs Baleman? Spock wtf stomps. ... Don't know how anybody is supporting Batman.

The OP never stipulated this was Christian Bale - you're assuming. And you know what happens when you assume...

I don't really have a lot of respect for Christopher Nolan's Batman, but I do have lot of respect for Batman - and since he has a dozen or more movies, with onscreen feats that includes beating the crap out of Superman, Spock is completely out of his league.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
The OP never stipulated this was Christian Bale - you're assuming. And you know what happens when you assume...

I don't really have a lot of respect for Christopher Nolan's Batman, but I do have lot of respect for Batman - and since he has a dozen or more movies, with onscreen feats that includes beating the crap out of Superman, Spock is completely out of his league.

Unless otherwise stated, in this forum when people say Batman they usually mean Baleman.

Baleman was the last Batman movie that was in theaters, there is no reason to assume he's talking about some direct to DVD release that most people probably never heard of.

Maybe we should ask Scoobless for a ruling? If it's the last Batman movie with Christian Bale, I am more than happy to retire from the field since I stopped caring about him after the second movie with whatever-his-name was.

If it's the best of Batman from all his movies, including the animated ones, Spock is completely out of his depth, as I would be more than happy to prove.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Spock vs Baleman? Spock wtf stomps. He'd phuck up Baleman and Bane at the same time.

This is a dude who fought Khan almost equally. He knows how to fight, and his race is 3 (or was it 5?) times stronger than a normal human. Don't know how anybody is supporting Batman.

Klingons are about x2

Vulcans are x3

Augments(Khan) are x5

Originally posted by KingD19
Let me explain it for you.

Romulans and Vulcans(Spock's race) are genetic cousins and are on average 2-3x stronger than a human, and that's just on average. It's not taking into account if a Vulcan was ripped like Brock Lesnar or something.

Khan was genetically engineered and was 5x stronger than a human. Spock was fighting him for a pretty decent amount of time and actually made Khan work for his win. Compare that to Kirk, a decently strong guy from constant exercise, training, and fighting. And probably a bit stronger than people in our day and age due to advances in science and medicine. Kirk got like 15 free face shots and he put his all into every single one. Khan didn't even flinch.

If you think Bane is stronger than Spock, put him in that fist fight with Khan and tell me how good you think he does. How strong would a human/vulcan be though?

Originally posted by Mindset
How strong would a human/vulcan be though?

Considering how easily he beat down Kirk(just as easy if not easier than the Romulan crew), and how he was able to hold his own against Khan for a while, and his incredibly high intelligence and logical thinking, Spock is pretty much 100% Vulcan physically. His human half seems to be more emotional than anything.

Originally posted by Mindset
How strong would a human/vulcan be though?

Physically, Spock is considered full Vulcan, despite being a filthy alien half-breed

Remember in the first flick when he lowered the boom on that bratty Vulcan kid who called his mother a whore?

Originally posted by Robtard
Physically, Spock is considered full Vulcan, despite being a filthy alien half-breed

Remember in the first flick when he lowered the boom on that bratty Vulcan kid who called his mother a whore? I thought that was just because he couldn't control his emotions since he was half human, not that he was actually stronger.

Also, he is just a good martial artist.

Originally posted by KingD19
Considering how easily he beat down Kirk(just as easy if not easier than the Romulan crew), and how he was able to hold his own against Khan for a while, and his incredibly high intelligence and logical thinking, Spock is pretty much 100% Vulcan physically. His human half seems to be more emotional than anything. Spock would be stronger than Kirk and he has had MA training since he was a kid. So of course he'd beat him, he'd also fight better than a crew of Romulan miners.

We know he has superior strength to humans, but we don't really have a gauge of how a full Vulcan with similar training would compare in those scenarios.

Originally posted by Mindset
I thought that was just because he couldn't control his emotions since he was half human, not that he was actually stronger.

Also, he is just a good martial artist.

He's considered full Vulcan in stats since ST:TOS, but the butt-rage likely helped the ass-kicking along in that scenario

Originally posted by Mindset
Spock would be stronger than Kirk and he has had MA training since he was a kid. So of course he'd beat him, he'd also fight better than a crew of Romulan miners.

We know he has superior strength to humans, but we don't really have a gauge of how a full Vulcan with similar training would compare in those scenarios.

The beating he gave Kirk indicated his skill helped but was unnecessary. He could eat Kirk's punches all day like the Romulans did. But he beat him down with raw strength.

But considering as I said he fought Khan and made him work for the win when Khan dominated a full crew of elite Klingons, his strength has to be full Vulcan. Anything less and he wouldn't have done as much damage or caused as much trouble as he did.

Originally posted by Robtard
He's considered full Vulcan in stats since ST:TOS, but the butt-rage likely helped the ass-kicking along in that scenario Originally posted by KingD19
The beating he gave Kirk indicated his skill helped but was unnecessary. He could eat Kirk's punches all day like the Romulans did. But he beat him down with raw strength.

But considering as I said he fought Khan and made him work for the win when Khan dominated a full crew of elite Klingons, his strength has to be full Vulcan. Anything less and he wouldn't have done as much damage or caused as much trouble as he did. Khan was beating 7 shades of shit out of Spock. Spock only hurt Khan with the death grip and after Khan was shot about a dozen times from a phaser and hit a couple times from that metal piece of the ship.

Khan didn't fight the Klingons in hth from what I remember.

Anyway, ST:TOS has him listed as full Vulcan according to Rob.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Maybe we should ask Scoobless for a ruling? If it's the last Batman movie with Christian Bale, I am more than happy to retire from the field since I stopped caring about him after the second movie with whatever-his-name was.

If it's the best of Batman from all his movies, including the animated ones, Spock is completely out of his depth, as I would be more than happy to prove.

When I made the match I had the latest live action movies in mind.

Assault on Arkham is a cool animated movie, but cartoon/comic Batman is constantly doing things no "normal" human has any business doing.

Originally posted by Scoobless
When I made the match I had the latest live action movies in mind.

Assault on Arkham is a cool animated movie, but cartoon/comic Batman is constantly doing things no "normal" human has any business doing.

Cheers, thanks Scoobless! As I promised, that's me out. I am always happy to enjoy a good debate about Batman, but I lost interest in Christopher Nolan's version about halfway through the second movie.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Cheers, thanks Scoobless! As I promised, that's me out. I am always happy to enjoy a good debate about Batman, but I lost interest in Christopher Nolan's version about halfway through the second movie.

Really? Most people loved that movie (I still prefer Batman Begins)

Originally posted by Robtard
Klingons are about x2

Vulcans are x3

Augments(Khan) are x5 Thanks for the correction

Nerd

Originally posted by Scoobless
Really? Most people loved that movie (I still prefer Batman Begins)

Yup. Funny enough, Batman Begins is probably also my favourite live-action Batman movie (although I still have a soft spot for the Michael Keaton / Jack Nicholson one). I am probably the one of my friends who doesn't like Christopher Nolan's movies, nor did I like Heath Ledger's portrayal of The Joker. I just kept thinking: "But that's not The Joker!"

Believe me, it has caused me an endless amount of arguments, but what can I say?

All I know is if it's a Woody Allen, Wes Anderson or a Christopher Nolan movie, I'm probably not going to enjoy watching it.

That's why I'm always torn between Batman Begins and Burton's Batman. Batman Begins is darker, edgier, grim with great action. Burton's Batman is fun, funny, even a bit camp with a great soundtrack. Both are great films and good entertainment.

I should stop posting when I am half asleep. Didn't even notice mention of the tricorder. Only saw the phaser. That neutralises any stealth Bats has. So Spock finds Bats and proceeds to beat the living shit out of him.

Spock and Khan both perform feats that are clearly superhuman. An example I can think of, off the top of my head, are the "super" jumps they both do to get onto that one transport platform during the final chase/fight. They both catch way more air than any humans could manage.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Thanks for the correction

Nerd

Yeah but Batman is Batman, so...

wiggety whack spocks goes down and Batman broods and also he's standing on a gargoyle or something, brooding broodily

This Batman is really Baleman, which means he'll lose.

I don't think Spock is really stronger than Bane on Serum... I think they would be peers. That said, Spock is faster than Bane and smarter so he would have the advantage. Same thing here.. I think Spock gets it done with some effort

IIRC Spock in the reboots accidentally punched the bulkhead of that ship he was fighting Khan on and it did nothing to him. With his equipment and vastly superior physical stats Batman has zero chance.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I don't think Spock is really stronger than Bane on Serum... I think they would be peers. That said, Spock is faster than Bane and smarter so he would have the advantage. Same thing here.. I think Spock gets it done with some effort

Are you talking about comics?

In the movie Bane is a henchman. He's basically Talia's #2 and had the spotlight on him so she could work from the shadows. All of his plans were engineered by her, he just carried them out. Spock on the other hand is Vulcan and was shown to be incredibly brilliant when he was an adolescent; he's only gotten smarter as he got older. Bane is not smarter. He's not even allowed to be in the same conversation about intelligence.

Bane has no serum in the movies. He has his mask which gives him a drug cocktail to deaden the immense amount of pain he's constantly in. The only benefit is that he can ignore pain, but it doesn't make him any stronger. Spock is at least 3x stronger than a human. They aren't peers either.

Spock has all the advantages in this fight. Every physical stat advantage you can think of, skilled fighter in his own right, a rapid fire gun that can easily kill or stun Bruce with a single hit, and a device that lets him pinpoint Bruce and keep a lock on him the entire fight.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I don't think Spock is really stronger than Bane on Serum... I think they would be peers. That said, Spock is faster than Bane and smarter so he would have the advantage. Same thing here.. I think Spock gets it done with some effort

Movie Bane didn't have any serum.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/b/b4/BaneJS.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080902212238

Wrong movie

but "Movie Bane" nonetheless

Spock eats Batman alive.

Proof of Spock ingesting uncooked humans?

Vulcans are vegetarian

Originally posted by Robtard
Vulcans are vegetarian Batman is a fruit.