ROTS Sidious vs. Traya/Malgus/Kun

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carthage
Random encounter

Neutral ground loc

Force, sabers, all out

Nephthys
The team. It's too much for him.

Emperordmb
Traya gigadrains /thread

amirite?

Angelalex242
Ehhhh. If the team wins, two of them will be dead before the last one standing gets him.

DE wipes the floor with the team...but ROTS?

Ehhhhhh. Might be drawish. The team definitely takes casualties.

Kosmos Supreme
Exar Kun is close to the Emperor's level. Apparently Luke said he was the most powerful dark side weilder sense palpatine.
Malgus is around Vader level
Treya is around Dooku level

Sidious looses this.

Angelalex242
Exar is not nearly as close to the Emperor, even ROTS Emperor, as you'd believe. He's not even on par with Plageuis or Caedus.

Kosmos Supreme
Can you prove it?

Angelalex242
The burden of proof is on you. Never ask someone to prove a negative.

It's on you to show he has feats equivalent to that of Plageuis or other similar Sith.

AncientPower
Exar Kun is very close as are Plagueis and Caedus. However Traya's best techniques are all but irrelevant against an opponent this strong. Basically she is demoted to glorified nuisance because of this. Darth Malgus does not have the speed or skill feats to prove to be even as good as Maul.

So in the end this leaves Exar Kun whom is the only one here that might actually prove to be A decent contest.

Darth Sidious wins, Kun isn't good enough to beat him alone.

Trocity
Exar Kun is one level below the elite tier imo.

Sidious is the best, then there's the powerhouses like Caedus/Plagueis, then the next level of powerful Sith, being guys like Kun and Apocalypse/Reborn Krayt.

S_W_LeGenD
Darth Malgus is not even on par with Darth Maul? The gems of this forum.

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Team demolishes.

Nephthys
Malgus could one-shot Maul like he did to Leneer, tbh.

AncientPower
Ah TOR masturbation mixed with PT lowballing. Ironic considering the claims of the opposite being true. Honestly believing anyone can one-shot Darth Maul, let alone a Sith, especially after Sidious being unable to do exactly that is an astoundingly retarded statement.

Nephthys
Sidious did one-shot him. erm

S_W_LeGenD
Sidious one-shot even Yoda.

AncientPower
Sidious has never one-shotted Darth Maul, in all three fights between the two Maul has performed far better than most. Exar Kun may be able to perform similarly well but his team-mates certainly won't.

S_W_LeGenD
Maul is good but he isn't a heavyweight on level of each member of the Strike Team. All outclass him in command of the Force and raw power aspects.

Nephthys
Originally posted by AncientPower
Sidious has never one-shotted Darth Maul, in all three fights between the two Maul has performed far better than most. Exar Kun may be able to perform similarly well but his team-mates certainly won't.

Sidious one-shot Maul and Savage at the start of the fight. He ragdolled them with them unable to break out despite straining against him. Then as soon as Sidious got bored at the end he started Lokismashing Maul.

Sinious
They'd be too much for this incarnation of Palpatine. Especially when their unique application of the force is combined.

ILS
Exar Kun should be able to win alone due to his unpredictable nature opposed to Sidious's bread and butter aggressive assault.

Stigma
This incarnation of Sidious loses the majortity here imho.

AncientPower
Originally posted by Nephthys
Sidious one-shot Maul and Savage at the start of the fight. He ragdolled them with them unable to break out despite straining against him. Then as soon as Sidious got bored at the end he started Lokismashing Maul.

Catching someome off-guard is very different from one-shotting A prepared opponent. Maul was never going to beat Sidious but his performance in and of itself is highly impressive.

Angelalex242
...LOL at ANYBODY not named Luke soloing Sidious.

Yoda can and did fight him to a losing draw, Mace got superamped that once (and Sids might've been faking for Anakin's sake, it's unclear), but that's as close as it gets.

carthage
Caedus would beat him or at least give him a good fight.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Angelalex242
...LOL at ANYBODY not named Luke soloing Sidious.
Or Father, or Son, or Daughter, or Abeloth...

Angelalex242
The God Tiers go as a given, I don't feel the need to point them out every time. At any rate, not applicable here.

Caedus does put a heck of a fight, though. Probably 3-4 of 10.

Nephthys
Originally posted by AncientPower
Catching someome off-guard is very different from one-shotting A prepared opponent. Maul was never going to beat Sidious but his performance in and of itself is highly impressive.

Maul and Savage were straining and unable to break his force hold.

AncientPower
It is far harder to break a Force Grip than it is to block one entirely.

Nephthys
So much harder that Sidious can hold Maul AND Savage against their will, but can't ragdoll Maul if he's prepared? Despite actually doing that at the end of the fight? And being able to choke Dooku from across the galaxy.

AncientPower
At the end where Maul is spent certainly but Sidious is hardly one-shotting a prepared Darth Maul nor a prepared Dooku for that matter. That being said he would still beat both of them every time. My original point being that Maul is not being one-shotted by Darth Malgus, a roughly equal in strength opponent at best.

Kosmos Supreme
Originally posted by Angelalex242
The burden of proof is on you. Never ask someone to prove a negative.

It's on you to show he has feats equivalent to that of Plageuis or other similar Sith.

I already said that Exar Kun was the most powerful Dark Side energy Luke felt sense Palpatine.

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