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Reports reach Captain America's ears of a killer spotted roaming the streets at night. Deciding to take matters in his own hands, he dons his uniform, picks up his shield, holsters his Colt .45 and stuffs a few grenades (smoke, concussion, stun, explosive, incendiary and frag) into a backpack. Staking out on a rooftop, he eventually sights Blade stalking the streets, just as Blade closes in on a vampire and destroys it. Rapidly descending, Captain America drops to the pavement behind Blade and orders him to turn around slowly, hands in the air.

Movie versions, live-action only. Blade is geared up for a hunt, so he is fully equipped. What happens next? Remember to vote!

Noooooo! Wrong forum! Please can a moderator move this to the Movie Versus forum for me. *Kicking myself*

I think it could go either way.

Originally posted by Mindset
I think it could go either way.

That's what she said!

movies? Blade easy, much better fighter and better weapons

Moved.

It's been a few years, but didn't the 3rd movie have them release a virus that would kill off all the vampires? Do we even know what Blade's stats are now that the vamp half of him is gone?

that doesnt mean that his abilities just go away, he was said to be unaffected by the virus, where did it say that his "vampire half" would die???

I recall it being said that him being a half-breed is the reason he lived, but the entire purpose of the virus was to destroy all vampires...so why wouldn't it kill the part of him that's a vamp.

But like I said, it's been a few years since I've watched it, I'd be ok with the movies actually stating that he kept his vamp stats, I just don't remember it. could you post the quote or a clip where it was mentioned?

I don't remember it ever being said it took away his abilities.

Also, it can't just kill half of him, that's not how genetics works.

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Here's the last scene. Drake talks about how the thirst will eventually win, then it says Blade is still fighting the war. I don't think he was affected at all.

Originally posted by Mindset

Also, it can't just kill half of him, that's not how genetics works.


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Originally posted by Mindset
I don't remember it ever being said it took away his abilities.

Also, it can't just kill half of him, that's not how genetics works.

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The how things work in real life argument doesn't really work when talking about things like vampires and werewolves. also saying he is still fighting the war doesn't mean he still has powers.

I'm just saying that I don't recall anything stating that he retained his vampire abilities after the anti-vamp virus was released.

what point are you trying to make? It's pretty obvious the OP meant for this to be Blade with his powers.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The how things work in real life argument doesn't really work when talking about things like vampires and werewolves. also saying he is still fighting the war doesn't mean he still has powers.

I'm just saying that I don't recall anything stating that he retained his vampire abilities after the anti-vamp virus was released. Yea, and the movie never said anything about it killing his vampire side.

Nothing points to him losing his powers, and everything said points to him keeping them.

Also the virus wouldn't affect him, he's a new species, the movie pretty much says this.

They're pretty equal by physical standards I think. Blade might be faster and have better reflexes. It's been awhile since I've watched the Blade films. I'm not sure on this one. I want to say Blade.

Cap2 gave Cap the strength advantage.

Blade is still the better fighter, and all blade has to do is bite Cap get some of his SSS laced blood and it's gg.

Blade isn't a better fighter, but he might be faster.

don't disagree with me, mindset, it's unbecoming.

Also, this.
Originally posted by marwash22
what point are you trying to make? It's pretty obvious the OP meant for this to be Blade with his powers.

Not trying to be dickish but why would it be Blade without his vampiric side?We'd have a lack of feats to compare to each other. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

Originally posted by marwash22
don't disagree with me, mindset, it's unbecoming. Sorry, but I like being right.

Originally posted by Mindset
Blade isn't a better fighter, but he might be faster.

clearly you've never watched the Blade movies, he'd wipe the floor with Cap

Originally posted by Mindset
Sorry, but I like being right. you're wrong tho. Blade is clearly the better fighter.

Cap's fighting improved drastically from the first movie to the second, but who the hell did Cap fight in WS? Batroc and Bucky... a win and a stalemate against those two is what makes him better than Blade, who beat high level martial artists who also had super powers?

nah.

Nomak would wash Bucky and Cap at the same time.

Originally posted by marwash22
you're wrong tho. Blade is clearly the better fighter.

Cap's fighting improved drastically from the first movie to the second, but who the hell did Cap fight in WS? Batroc and Bucky... a win and a stalemate against those two is what makes him better than Blade, who beat high level martial artists who also had super powers?

nah.

Nomak would wash Bucky and Cap at the same time. Lol, what?

WS is a high level martial artist with super powers. Cap beat him. How many high level martial artists did Blade fight? The only ones I remember are the two in the beginning of Blade 2 and there's no reason to think they're better than Bucky.

Nomak was beating the shit out of Blade. It's retarded to think Blade alone would do better than Bucky and Cap at the same time.

Originally posted by relentless1
clearly you've never watched the Blade movies, he'd wipe the floor with Cap Based on what?

Originally posted by Silent Master
The how things work in real life argument doesn't really work when talking about things like vampires and werewolves. also saying he is still fighting the war doesn't mean he still has powers.

I'm just saying that I don't recall anything stating that he retained his vampire abilities after the anti-vamp virus was released.

Wait, you think he could fight drake and hold his own without his powers?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Wait, you think he could fight drake and hold his own without his powers? I could.

Originally posted by marwash22
what point are you trying to make? It's pretty obvious the OP meant for this to be Blade with his powers.

No point other than I didn't remember if the movie ever touched on how a virus meant to wipe out vampires physically affected Blade. like I said, it's been years since I've watched it.

WS isn't superpowered, he has a mech arm that puts him above Cap strength wise but only with that arm, other wise he's a peak human like Cap, Blade has shown through damage soak such as hitting the ground running from a couple several story drops and completely ignoring bullets being shot and hitting him centre mass, as well as feats like throwing a full grown woman from a window across to another rooftop, punching through tactical swat helmets with ease and kicking a man several feet while that guy was in a laying position, id say Blade is about as strong as Buckys mech arm but in his whole body; combine that with his greater damage soak and much better fighting abilities: the fights with Nyssa and the other guy, the sword fight against Frost and Drake and even his fight against Nomak, he was hanging in there and had another great showing of damage soak, not to mention all the vampire and human fodder he skillfully dispatched throughout the trilogy.

Originally posted by relentless1
WS isn't superpowered, he has a mech arm that puts him above Cap strength wise but only with that arm, other wise he's a peak human like Cap, Blade has shown through damage soak such as hitting the ground running from a couple several story drops and completely ignoring bullets being shot and hitting him centre mass, as well as feats like throwing a full grown woman from a window across to another rooftop, punching through tactical swat helmets with ease and kicking a man several feet while that guy was in a laying position, id say Blade is about as strong as Buckys mech arm but in his whole body; combine that with his greater damage soak and much better fighting abilities: the fights with Nyssa and the other guy, the sword fight against Frost and Drake and even his fight against Nomak, he was hanging in there and had another great showing of damage soak, not to mention all the vampire and human fodder he skillfully dispatched throughout the trilogy. Peak humans in Marvel are super powered...

If you don't even know that much, I'd suggest you watch the movies.

WS overpowered a Cap that was using both hands with the mech arm and most of the strength feats you just listed Cap can either match or beat.

Originally posted by Silent Master
WS overpowered a Cap that was using both hands with the mech arm

exactly, if you'll read my response i said that Blade appears to be that level of strength in his trilogy

Well this kind of highlights some of Blade's better feas:
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Yeah Blade would win solidly.

Originally posted by relentless1
exactly, if you'll read my response i said that Blade appears to be that level of strength in his trilogy

Yet the feats you listed have been matched or exceeded by Cap, so your argument is Blade having Cap level feats means that he's stronger than Cap.

How exactly does that make sense?

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well this kind of highlights some of Blade's better feas:
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Yeah Blade would win solidly.

yeah, theres no way Steve is taking that kind of punishment

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yet the feats you listed have been matched or exceeded by Cap, so your argument is Blade having Cap level feats means that he's stronger than Cap.

How exactly does that make sense?


thats not what I said at all, I said Blades strength is about that of Buckys mech arm, meaning he's stronger that Cap....

Originally posted by relentless1
yeah, theres no way Steve is taking that kind of punishment

You really think those are more impressive than jumping out of airplanes without a chute and taking hits from Loki and the WS and a blast from an energy rifle?

Originally posted by relentless1
thats not what I said at all, I said Blades strength is about that of Buckys mech arm, meaning he's stronger that Cap....

Which again ignores the fact that the strength feats you listed have been matched or exceeded by Cap...IOW your argument boils down to "even though Blade's strength feats are around Cap level, I'm just going to say that he's stronger because I like him more".

Bucky's not that impressive strength wise w/o the arm, which Cap's avoided taking a square hit from IIRC, and he was ineffective against Loki. Also when did he tank an energy rifle?

heres more Blade awesomeness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSsDJhbAqSM&spfreload=10

Has Cap done something like toss a woman from rooftop to rooftop? Honestly asking cuz I don't recall anything and I think that might be Blade's top strength feat.

lol he jumped into water for one, Loki wasn't going anywhere near all out, he wanted to be captured and he never tanked let alone took a shot from Buckys mech arm, as for the energy rifle id hardly call that tanking it, he seemed pretty banged up afterwards, he also wasn't able to shrug off bullets either as they affected him in WS

Originally posted by juggerman
Has Cap done something like toss a woman from rooftop to rooftop? Honestly asking cuz I don't recall anything and I think that might be Blade's top strength feat.

He's thrown a full grown man straight up at least 10-15 feet while in water with no way to brace himself, lifted a motorcycle with 3 grown women on it, punched through submarine safety glass while underwater, ripped a log in half.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well this kind of highlights some of Blade's better feas:
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Yeah Blade would win solidly. How is Nomak beating the shit out of Blade a case for him winning this fight?

He has lifted a motorcycle w/two women over his head along with lifting a steel beam off of Buckey.

lol how has Cap match or exceeded Blades strength feats? show me a scene where he tosses a full grown human across rooftops or sends a man who was already on the ground flying into the air with a kick

Originally posted by Mindset
How is Nomak beating the shit out of Blade a case for him winning this fight?
Its a showcase of durability and kind or strength. Cap wouldn't be capable of putting Blade down based on him taking a far worse beating than Cap could dish out.

Originally posted by relentless1
lol he jumped into water for one, Loki wasn't going anywhere near all out, he wanted to be captured and he never tanked let alone took a shot from Buckys mech arm, as for the energy rifle id hardly call that tanking it, he seemed pretty banged up afterwards, he also wasn't able to shrug off bullets either as they affected him in WS

Do you really think hitting water at terminal velocity without injury is something that normal people can do? and even if Loki was holding back he was still hitting hard enough to send Cap flying and yes Cap did take several hits from the mech arm and he got right back up and kept fighting after the energy blast...hell after the fight he went to get something to eat instead of getting medical attention.

It's like you have zero knowledge about the people you're trying to debate.

the water one was pretty good ill give him that but the other ones aren't the same thing; lifting strength and power are two different things; one helps you in combat while the other one is great if you're holding a bench press competition and that fight sows off Blades damage soak, I doubt Cap could stand up to that kind of punishment against that kind of opponent

caps shield took shots from the mech arm, not cap and nobody disputing that caps above human, I'm saying that blades stats are better

Originally posted by relentless1
lol how has Cap match or exceeded Blades strength feats? show me a scene where he tosses a full grown human across rooftops or sends a man who was already on the ground flying into the air with a kick

Cap's first movie has several feats of Cap sending people flying for dozen or more feet. Again, have you even seen the movies you're trying to debate?

Originally posted by relentless1
caps shield took shots from the mech arm, not cap and nobody disputing that caps above human, I'm saying that blades stats are better

Cap got hit in the face several times with the mech arm in their final fight. Once again, have you even seen the movies you're trying to debate?

yeah, he has, several feet in fact but those kicks were from a standing, thrusting position, much easier feat than kicking somebody upwards from the ground

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Bucky's not that impressive strength wise w/o the arm Uh...

https://38.media.tumblr.com/92f2bcd0bd1889c2f066d154d26316a9/tumblr_n9ork7jnkP1rhmne4o1_500.gif

and they weren't fighting at that point, steve allowed bucky to tee off on him and he was rightly ****ed up from taking those shots but that has no relevance on their actual fights where he avoided the strong arm as much as possible, knowing it could be lights out if he got caught flush with it

Originally posted by relentless1
yeah, he has, several feet in fact but those kicks were from a standing, thrusting position, much easier feat than kicking somebody upwards from the ground

Cap kicked someone straight up in the elevator scene, I seriously have to ask....have you even seen these movies?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Cap's first movie has several feats of Cap sending people flying for dozen or more feet. Again, have you even seen the movies you're trying to debate?
That's not really that impressive, or rather not enough to push him past Blade in strength. Pretty sure Blade could replicate that feat.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Cap got hit in the face several times with the mech arm in their final fight. Once again, have you even seen the movies you're trying to debate?
Admittedly I forgot about that. Nonetheless Blade tanked worse from Nomak.

Originally posted by relentless1
and they weren't fighting at that point, steve allowed bucky to tee off on him and he was rightly ****ed up from taking those shots but that has no relevance on their actual fights where he avoided the strong arm

IOW you admit that Cap has in fact taken several full hits from the mech arm.

yeah he did, and he got ****ed up from doing that

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Its a showcase of durability and kind or strength. Cap wouldn't be capable of putting Blade down based on him taking a far worse beating than Cap could dish out. That makes zero sense.

Nomak beat the shit out of Blade, that doesn't mean it takes Nomak level strength to beat him.

Originally posted by relentless1
yeah he did, and he got ****ed up from doing that

Yea...he was bleeding but he was still conscious and able to carry on a conversation so let's try and reign in your bias.

lol have YOU seen the movie, he didn't kick rumlow into the ceiling in the elevator he threw him

Originally posted by relentless1
lol have YOU seen the movie, he didn't kick rumlow into the ceiling in the elevator he threw him I'm gonna kick you into an elevator ceiling. babby

Originally posted by Mindset
That makes zero sense.

Nomak beat the shit out of Blade, that doesn't mean it takes Nomak level strength to beat him.
Maybe but it'd take a lot more then what Cap could dish out to beat Blade. Nomak level strength is better than the mech arm Buckey had which I doubt Cap could replicate.

If all else fails he still has better technique.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Maybe but it'd take a lot more then what Cap could dish out to beat Blade. Nomak level strength is better than the mech arm Buckey had which I doubt Cap could replicate.

If all else fails he still has better technique. Shield hits > Nomak's fist.

Cap has enough strength to put Blade down eventually.

He doesn't though.

and Nomak didn't beat the shit out of Blade, Drake beat the shit out of Blade, Blade was still in the fight with Nomak and probably could have won without the sword if Nomak didn't have such crazy regen

So I slightly misremembered one screen, that hardly matches the numerous times I've had to correct you and don't think that I missed that it took you a while to make the correction...more than long enough for you to go to youtube. so my question stands, have you actually seen the movies?

Originally posted by relentless1
and Nomak didn't beat the shit out of Blade, Drake beat the shit out of Blade, Blade was still in the fight with Nomak and probably could have won without the sword if Nomak didn't have such crazy regen
Just because Drake also beat the shit out of Blade doesn't mean Nomak didn't, he did.

Originally posted by Mindset
Shield hits > Nomak's fist.

Cap has enough strength to put Blade down eventually.

He doesn't though.




Nomak is still much stronger than steve, what does it matter if he's got his shield?

and Blades a way better fighter, compare any Blade fight to a Cap one and you'll see a lot better technique, especially since he's not going up against weak humans like Cap is, he's going up against vamps that are stronger and faster than any normal human

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSsDJhbAqSM&spfreload=10

Originally posted by relentless1


Nomak is still much stronger than steve, what does it matter if he's got his shield?

and Blades a way better fighter, compare any Blade fight to a Cap one and you'll see a lot better technique, especially since he's not going up against weak humans like Cap is, he's going up against vamps that are stronger and faster than any normal human

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSsDJhbAqSM&spfreload=10 You have obviously not seen any movie with Cap in it.

You didn't even know he had super strength.

Stop.

silent, everything you've tried to call me on I've had an answer for so don't try to act like you're some brain on the movies or something, "misremembering" that scene, from somebody who's seen the movies back to front to back i assume since your so quick to try to correct sounds a lot more like a bias for Cap than anything to me

clearly you haven't seen the movies as they clearly state in first avenger that he is a pinnacle human aka peak, even joe johnston the director of said movie said in an interview that cap is " 1 1/2 times better than an olympic athlete" doesnt really sound superhuman to me, sounds enhanced so quit trying to make shit up, nowhere in the movies does it even remotely suggest that he's superhuman

Originally posted by relentless1
silent, everything you've tried to call me on I've had an answer for so don't try to act like you're some brain on the movies or something, "misremembering" that scene, from somebody who's seen the movies back to front to back i assume since your so quick to try to correct sounds a lot more like a bias for Cap than anything to me

No you haven't, as an example it took multiple posts just to get you to admit that Cap was hit several times with the mech arm. you also still ignore that all the strength feats you listed for Blade have been either matched or beaten by Cap and yet you still insist that sed feats prove that Blade is stronger.

Originally posted by relentless1
clearly you haven't seen the movies as they clearly state in first avenger that he is a pinnacle human aka peak, even joe johnston the director of said movie said in an interview that cap is " 1 1/2 times better than an olympic athlete" doesnt really sound superhuman to me, sounds enhanced so quit trying to make shit up, nowhere in the movies does it even remotely suggest that he's superhuman

Originally posted by Mindset
Shield hits > Nomak's fist.

Cap has enough strength to put Blade down eventually.

He doesn't though.

Shield hits? I know its tanked a lot of impressive stuff but who has it hit that it would warrant that Cap's blows are stronger with it.

Even if he does have a strength advantage, Blade's durability is still high enough where Cap wouldn't be able to put him down.

Originally posted by Mindset
You have obviously not seen any movie with Cap in it.

You didn't even know he had super strength.

Stop.

Some people, I swear

Originally posted by Mindset


He basically just admitted that he's never seen the movie.

lol your disputing lines spoken in the movie and what the director of the movie has stated, clearly you have your minds made up and not even hard fact will dissuade you

You're the one trying to ignore actual feats.

Originally posted by relentless1
clearly you haven't seen the movies as they clearly state in first avenger that he is a pinnacle human aka peak, even joe johnston the director of said movie said in an interview that cap is " 1 1/2 times better than an olympic athlete" doesnt really sound superhuman to me, sounds enhanced so quit trying to make shit up, nowhere in the movies does it even remotely suggest that he's superhuman

Off the top of my head and just from the first film:

-Jumping the 20+ meters chasm when he was escaping Red Skull's base

-Keeping up with a 1940's Buick on foot

-Easily punching through submarine glass

-Single arm tossing a man about 15 feet straight up

-Surviving being frozen for 60+ years

Nah, clearly just a very gifted athlete

Seems like their strength is pretty on par. I'd lean toward Blade due to skill and speed

Originally posted by juggerman
Seems like their strength is pretty on par. I'd lean toward Blade due to skill and speed

That stance at least makes sense, unlike relentless1 who thinks that Blade having Cap level strength feats means that he's stronger.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That stance at least makes sense, unlike relentless1 who thinks that Blade having Cap level strength feats means that he's stronger.

Honestly, I thought Cap was outmatched in strength at first too. I keep forgetting the crazy shit he's done.

Blade also has damage soak to the point that Cap's hits shouldn't do nearly enough damage to take him down. Not after the beatings he received at the hands of Nomak and Drake and kept going.

Honestly, this is a pretty damn good fight based on their feats. These two have very similar skill sets. I'd probably give Blade a slight skill advantage over Cap, who has better consistent strength feats. I'd need to reexamine their durability, speed, agility, etc.

Let's see after Avengers 2

There are some rumored feats for cap that would make this a stomp.

I'm wondering why Silent even thought Blade's powers may have been affected by the virus and taken away... when he was shown fighting his most powerful foe to date and holding his own.

You're aware that the virus wasn't released until the end of the fight when Blade stabbed him with the arrow, right? Your comment makes it seem like you've never seen the movie.

The whole thing about Blade being a Daywalker is that he has all of the vampires strengths, and none of their weaknesses save his bloodthirst. So anything that effects full vampires, doesn't do the same to him. Sunlight, Silver, his serum(which kills vampires even as powerful as La Magra Frost), and that virus at the end.

IIRC, they stated earlier in the movie that they were unsure what effect the virus would have on him, that was why I was wondering if the movie showed him retaining all his vampire advantages after the virus as I didn't remember if the movie touched on it.

I've already said that the question was just for my curiosity and had nothing to do with the fight.

Originally posted by juggerman
Seems like their strength is pretty on par. I'd lean toward Blade due to skill and speed

Maybe it's because I haven't seen the Blade movies in some time, but I actually give Cap the edge in skill while I give Blade the advantage in speed.

Or rather, Blade looked like he had the better martial arts training but Cap looked like he was fully utilizing his strength advantage during his fight scenes thus making him look a better fighter. But that's just me.

Good fight, Cap has some good feats and he was badass in Cap 2 and all but Blades gonna kill Cap. And honestly, I don't see this fight lasting longer than a minute at most. Due to the fact that they are so fast, strong and efficient with their attacks, by efficient I mean kill shots and due to Blades use of actual offensive weapons, higher versatility and more brutal nature ( cap ain't no pansy either) his will come first.

I do see Cap catching Blade with the edge of that shield and it's gonna be straight game over. He will be stunned enough that Cap will get that kill shot in, and I don't see him hesitating to take it.

Blade 6/10.

Originally posted by KingD19
his serum(which kills vampires even as powerful as La Magra Frost)

His serum doesn't kill vamps. The doctor created something from his serum that exploded them.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Maybe it's because I haven't seen the Blade movies in some time, but I actually give Cap the edge in skill while I give Blade the advantage in speed.

Or rather, Blade looked like he had the better martial arts training but Cap looked like he was fully utilizing his strength advantage during his fight scenes thus making him look a better fighter. But that's just me.

Cap also mostly fought non super powered opponents. Pretty much every opponent for Blade was a vampire, and by default, they had enhanced strength/speed and whatnot. Him making them look like feebs is better than Cap making humans look like feebs imo

Cap made the NotSkrulls look like feebs and they would have crushed the vampires.

Originally posted by juggerman
Cap also mostly fought non super powered opponents. Pretty much every opponent for Blade was a vampire, and by default, they had enhanced strength/speed and whatnot. Him making them look like feebs is better than Cap making humans look like feebs imo

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Cap made the NotSkrulls look like feebs and they would have crushed the vampires.

Unlikely. Black Widow was able to take them in h2h with no trouble at all iirc. Again the vampires only looked like trash because Blade is so far above them. They were still very super human in their own right

So were the Chitauri. BW being able to fight them was more to show how good she was, rather than how weak they were. They were still doing things jumping off high-flying ships, crushing cars when they land and digging their hands into the sides of buildings.

Don't get me wrong, I know she's good. But I just didn't get the impression the Chitauri were all that great.

Based on movie feats they are way above normal human.

Widow being able to beat them in h2h easily, them being killed by regular arrows, one being killed by Widow stabbing it, one being killed by Hawkeye stabbing it, and them dying from bullets show they are not "way" above normal human.

Plus BW has never shown any super human traits before or after. She's good but she should be able to job them out if they are so far above human when she is not

Feel free to show clips of normal people that can match the feats I listed for the Chitauri.

Movie Cap is excellent in all regards, genuinely superhuman across the board and will probably get feats+ in AoU, as well he should.

But, Blade is just a step above, in terms of strength and way above in terms of speed, durability is a bit more even, we saw Cap fall multi stories and land on his shield with no ill effects but we saw Blade crash through a window multi stories high and land on his feet with no ill effects, which is a bit more of an impressive feat. A healthy Freshly serumed Blade vs a healthy Cap, I gotta give it to movie Blade. He really has the stats edge, and arguably the skill edge.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Feel free to show clips of normal people that can match the feats I listed for the Chitauri.

In movies? I can name a few for some of those

Originally posted by juggerman
In movies? I can name a few for some of those

Go ahead.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Go ahead.

Not gonna post clips if I don't have to.

Batman in The Dark Knight both fell a great distance and crushed a car under the impact with absolutely no damage to himself twice. Human level

"Feat"-wise, Chitauri fodder looked better than vampire fodder AFAIK.

Heck. Old crippled man managed to KO one of the Bloodpack elite Vamps via h2h in Blade 2 didn't he?

Originally posted by juggerman
Not gonna post clips if I don't have to.

Batman in The Dark Knight both fell a great distance and crushed a car under the impact with absolutely no damage to himself twice. Human level

Going by his last movie doing things like that f$%ked his body up. so it was doing damage, he was just able to keep going. even if we don't count the damage we know those things were doing to Bruce. the Chitauri took the impact far better than Baleman did.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Going by his last movie doing things like that f$%ked his body up. so it was doing damage, he was just able to keep going. even if we don't count the damage we know those things were doing to Bruce. the Chitauri took the impact far better than Baleman did.

Him being Batman in general did his body damage. There is nothing stating or showin that either of these instances caused him any discomfort at all. You can get away with that stuff in movies. Irk he would be dead or at least phucked up

Originally posted by juggerman
Him being Batman in general did his body damage. There is nothing stating or showin that either of these instances caused him any discomfort at all. You can get away with that stuff in movies. Irk he would be dead or at least phucked up

You ignored the second part, about how the well they each took the impact, the Chitauri landed on the car feet first and didn't even seem to notice the impact.

Let's not pretend that Batman could fall from above skyscraper level and dig into the side of a building.

Originally posted by KingD19
Let's not pretend that Batman could fall from above skyscraper level and dig into the side of a building.

The way Batman and the Chitauri handled the impacts were completely different, he is basically doing the equivalent of bringing up Bane punching that decorative pillar when asked for a punching feat that matches the Hulk's leviathan punch.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You ignored the second part, about how the well they each took the impact, the Chitauri landed on the car feet first and didn't even seem to notice the impact.

The first time Batman didn't react at all. The second one he was whispering sweet nothings to his lady friend

Originally posted by KingD19
Let's not pretend that Batman could fall from above skyscraper level and dig into the side of a building.

I never said he could do either

Originally posted by Silent Master
The way Batman and the Chitauri handled the impacts were completely different, he is basically doing the equivalent of bringing up Bane punching that decorative pillar when asked for a punching feat that matches the Hulk's leviathan punch.

Nope

Yes.

If I recall, Batman also landed on the roof of the car. Chitauri were landing on the hoods and crumpling them to the ground meaning they destroyed engine blocks. Landing on one of those would have broken Bruce's knee much much faster.

Originally posted by KingD19
If I recall, Batman also landed on the roof of the car. Chitauri were landing on the hoods and crumpling them to the ground meaning they destroyed engine blocks. Landing on one of those would have broken Bruce's knee much much faster.

I don't remember that. I'll rewatch

Originally posted by KingD19
If I recall, Batman also landed on the roof of the car. Chitauri were landing on the hoods and crumpling them to the ground meaning they destroyed engine blocks. Landing on one of those would have broken Bruce's knee much much faster.

Exactly.

Also when did a Chitauri fall from greater than skyscraper level?

I can't find the entire battle on youtube. Just clips. If someone could post it I'm sure it would help

When did they take Avengers off netflix?

Didn't Blade have 2 human sidekicks in Blade 3 that also had no trouble killing vampire fodder?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Didn't Blade have 2 human sidekicks in Blade 3 that also had no trouble killing vampire fodder?

Abigail Whistler and Hannibal King.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Didn't Blade have 2 human sidekicks in Blade 3 that also had no trouble killing vampire fodder? No one has ever had trouble killing vampire fodder.

Hannibal King even killed one of the main vamps that was played by Triple H.

So then chitauri are easily killed by BW and Hawkeye and vamps are easily killed by King and Whistler. Mmm... I should do a chitauri vs vamps match...

Originally posted by Silent Master
Hannibal King even killed one of the main vamps that was played by Triple H. http://37.media.tumblr.com/e14d98aee3c757a2b76d1cce6e576ce3/tumblr_n6nfizae3Q1tu7965o1_400.gif

Point is, the argument that "Blade is stronger because he beat superhuman vamps whereas Cap only beat Chitauri" doesn't have much credence now.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So then chitauri are easily killed by BW and Hawkeye and vamps are easily killed by King and Whistler. Mmm... I should do a chitauri vs vamps match... Well, Jeremy Renner would massacre Hannibal and Abigail.

Originally posted by Mindset
When did they take Avengers off netflix?

December 22 2014

Originally posted by Robtard
December 22 2014 Just cancelled my subscription.

Also filed a lawsuit.

Netflix tends to drop blockbuster flicks when a sequel or related film is close to hitting the theaters

Originally posted by Mindset
Just cancelled my subscription.

Also filed a lawsuit.

what kind of smartphone you got? I can recommend a couple free "low pro" apps that are better than netflix.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Didn't Blade have 2 human sidekicks in Blade 3 that also had no trouble killing vampire fodder?

Did they ever fight vamps h2h? It's been awhile but all I recall was whistler using her bow. Don't remember what weapons if any King used. And he had trouble with Triple Vamp. If there are scenes where they easily took out vamps h2h then yes it would kill the point I made

Originally posted by juggerman
Did they ever fight vamps h2h? It's been awhile but all I recall was whistler using her bow. Don't remember what weapons if any King used. And he had trouble with Triple Vamp. If there are scenes where they easily took out vamps h2h then yes it would kill the point I made Yea, but Triple H was one of the main vamps.

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He did pretty well before he killed him.

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Aw hell

Actually, a worse showing was when Whistler (old crippled guy) KO'd one of the "uber-elite" vamps that were trained specifically to kill Blade (Blood pack was it? Can't remember) in 3-4 hits IIRC. :-p and yeah, h2h. Sucker punch, tho. But still...

Strength they're about even going on feats. Blade has it in fighting skill, hand speed and agility. Cap has it in running speed and tactical knowledge. About evens on damage soak. I'd give it 7/10 Blade or evens if Cap had prep. Good match up though.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, but Triple H was one of the main vamps.

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He did pretty well before he killed him.

Wow... that fight makes Baleman and Bane look a lot more impressive.

Nice how he outsmarted the vampire dogs.
Reminds me that Batman got wrecked by dogs a few times in the dark knight. Couldnt find a better vid but this should suffice.


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Yea...given his fight with the vamp Triple H, Hannibal King would probably get the majority against Baleman in a street fight(IOW, no armor).

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yea...given his fight with the vamp Triple H, Hannibal King would probably get the majority against Baleman in a street fight(IOW, no armor).

Despite the fairly slow choreography, I have to agree. King not only soaked up a lot of hits from a guy who was supposed to be an upper level vamp, but his own hits were having a noticeable effect as well (even though HHH's regen handled most of it). Baleman, without armour, is going to have a tough time hurting King or taking hits from him.

I kind of felt sorry for King, I mean Abigail got to fight all the minion vamps while King kept getting attacked by all the named bosses.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I kind of felt sorry for King, I mean Abigail got to fight all the minion vamps while King kept getting attacked by all the named bosses.

WTF you talking about?? Boss fights = uber lewts. minions = lame gold. He let the girl clear all the trash mobs so he can hog all the lewts and xp. Lucky SOB.

I did that with the Balrog, too. Dinged real nice and got a new staff from it.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Wow... that fight makes Baleman and Bane look a lot more impressive. I don't follow.

Originally posted by Mindset
I don't follow.

The fight between King and whatever the hell HHH was callled in Blade is quite slow and clumsy (kinda shocking compared to most Blade fight scenes really). Watch that fight and then watch the fights between Bane and Baleman, and they suddenly don't look as bad.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
WTF you talking about?? Boss fights = uber lewts. minions = lame gold. He let the girl clear all the trash mobs so he can hog all the lewts and xp. Lucky SOB.

I did that with the Balrog, too. Dinged real nice and got a new staff from it.

I just meant in regards to the punishment he went through. the guy just couldn't catch a break.

Think about it. He got attacked by Drake, then kidnapped and tortured, then had to fight Triple H and finally the lady vamp.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I just meant in regards to the punishment he went through. the guy just couldn't catch a break.

Think about it. He got attacked by Drake, then kidnapped and tortured, then had to fight Triple H and finally the lady vamp.

He needs the damage to build rage so he can keep his taunt and sunders up. Just so long as his healer isn't a noob, he's golden.

You're making me want to go and play D&D.