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Deadpool (iirc) had optic blasts, teleportation, healing, adamantium arm-swords, enhanced reflexes... Anything else?

Torch had the combined F4 powers (but never showed invisible shields)

Going with Torch, who beat a Doom possessing powers that beat Galactus.

It won't be easy for Torch: 1) he beat Doom largely (but not entirely) by attacking the device controlling Surfer's board; and 2) Deadpool was a natural "born" killer, while Torch was a buffoon who finally got his act together in the end.

Still, I can't see Deadpool Ryan beating an ersatz SuperSkrull.

It's been a while since I saw either movie. Didn't Wolverine eventually beat Deadpool? And I don't see Wolverine beating SuperTorch either, not once Johnny gets serious and focused.

Interesting fight.

Yeah, Torch beat Doom, but if it wasn't for the wrist band computer weakness I'm not sure he could've.

Wolverine and Sabretooth teamed up to fight Pool and he was kicking both their asses for most of the fight.

Torch has more power
Deadpool seems much faster

Invisibility helps Johnny a lot though. Hard for Barakapool to attack him if he can't see him.

Think a super nova would put Deadpool down?

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Invisibility helps Johnny a lot though. Hard for Barakapool to attack him if he can't see him. Johnny could even make his flame invisible. Go figger.

Originally posted by juggerman
Think a super nova would put Deadpool down?

Not sure if Johnny would risk the nova flame without a forcefield to contain it. He showed pretty much instant mastery over all the other powers (able to easily use them all at once), but never used any forcefields.

I wonder if this match is KO or death though. I think a few solid punches with giant, rock-like, invisible, flaming arms, powered by Thing level strength, would definitely be enough for a KO.

Originally posted by Mindship
Johnny could even make his flame invisible. Go figger.

Well, the power is supposed to be bending light around something (or something along those lines), instead of actually turning invisible.

i am going with torch even though he doesnt seem as rutheless like good old Baraka pool

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, the power is supposed to be bending light around something (or something along those lines), instead of actually turning invisible. Bending light is fine for material objects that reflect light (that's how we see). But fire is its own light source: it emits light, and you'd need a way to keep that light from radiating out and reaching eyeballs. The invisible forcefield can't do it: that it's invisible means it doesn't react with light.

Perhaps SuperTorch was glowing ultravioletly.

Originally posted by Mindship
Bending light is fine for material objects that reflect light (that's how we see). But fire is its own light source: it emits light, and you'd need a way to keep that light from radiating out and reaching eyeballs. The invisible forcefield can't do it: that it's invisible means it doesn't react with light.

Perhaps SuperTorch was glowing ultravioletly.

Eh, well if the powers involve bending light, maybe he mucked about with the light his fire was producing to prevent it from reaching out. Because he would have been able to combine his pyro powers with the light bending powers. We see him combine all their powers, excluding forcefields, seamlessly (in fact, the speed at which he gained control over abilities that took the others most of a movie to get the hang of was somewhat silly IMO). *shrugs* I honestly have no idea though. Comic Super Skrull can make his flames in friggin' space. Chalk it all up to BS comicbook science.

Think people tend to agree though that Super Torch takes this in anyways.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Chalk it all up to BS comicbook science. Word.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
the speed at which he gained control over abilities that took the others most of a movie to get the hang of was somewhat silly IMO). *shrugs* I honestly have no idea though.


Comic Super Skrull can make his flames in friggin' space. Chalk it all up to BS comicbook science.

To be fair, he had small small chances at using all their powers at earlier stages of the movie...

And Super Skrull's flames are nuclear fusion (fision?) Not the same as Torch's

Originally posted by Scoobless
To be fair, he had small small chances at using all their powers at earlier stages of the movie...

And Super Skrull's flames are nuclear fusion (fision?) Not the same as Torch's

He had the abilities of the others for a few seconds at a time, and didn't seem to have any kind of real hold on either Sue or Reed's powers. Yet in the final fight he is throwing giant, invisible, flaming, elastic, rock-fisted punches from virtually the get go.

And as far as I know, the Super Skrull's powers operate exactly like that of the FF, because he had cosmic radiation receptors or some such crap implanted in his body, to gather the same energies that empowered the FF. Never heard anything about his fire powers coming from nuclear fusion, but Kl'rt isn't a character I don't care much for, so I have never really paid much attention to him.

Nah, they were always augmented versions of FF powers, stretchier than Reed, Stronger than the Thing, etc...

Just checked, not nuclear, antimatter....

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Scoobless/Mobile%20Uploads/422163-betterabilities2hc2_super_2.jpg


I love that he's just standing holding the thing while being lifted by a crane of some sort, all the while the guy says no machine could possibly lift it.