Dragon Age vs. Witcher vs. Legend of Zelda

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quanchi112
Not a straight up versus but more or less compare the lore, story, etc. and what you prefer out of these three series.

NemeBro
Objectively, Dragon Age and the Witcher are both superior to the Legend of Zelda in terms of writing. Zelda is ultimately a pretty basic story with a standard plot but some clever ideas thrown in. I myself prefer the Witcher's setting to Dragon Age's (and actually, Zelda's setting is probably the only writing aspect of the series that could compare to or surpass the others, but it has had far more time to develop its setting), but Dragon Age has better characters (I'm not far through 2 though).

In terms of gameplay Zelda easily beats both though. Dragon Age is a fairly standard tactical RPG, and the first Witcher frankly had sort of ass gameplay. 2 is better, but still doesn't match up to the real-time action and exploration Zelda provides.

All three are good series, so it really depends on what you're looking for in a game. I like them all just fine. I will say that Majora's Mask and Wind Waker are two games I probably like more than any Witcher or Dragon Age game.

trexalfa
From a pure series point of view, The Witcher wins everything. The source material for it is a pretty good series of fantasy books that's actually fairly popular.

Dragon Age comes second. Bioware are among the best worldbuilder in the western videogame industry, and Dragon Age shows that. It sets up very interesting situations, and throws its own spin into the otherwise Tolkienian fantasy. That said, the games suffer the fact that the plot has little to no cohesion.

LoZ is the worst in terms of both writing and storytelling. It's very basic, doesn't try to be genre savvy too often, and instead focuses on gameplay. The storyline focuses on some themes in Tolkien's work, but they are ultimately to superflous to my liking.

As for my favourite series among them, it's Dragon Age all the way. RPGs like that have always been my favourite game genre.

Nephthys
The Witcher. Then Dragon Age. Then Zelda.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Nephthys
The Witcher. Then Dragon Age. Then Zelda.

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quanchi112
Originally posted by trexalfa
From a pure series point of view, The Witcher wins everything. The source material for it is a pretty good series of fantasy books that's actually fairly popular.

Dragon Age comes second. Bioware are among the best worldbuilder in the western videogame industry, and Dragon Age shows that. It sets up very interesting situations, and throws its own spin into the otherwise Tolkienian fantasy. That said, the games suffer the fact that the plot has little to no cohesion.

LoZ is the worst in terms of both writing and storytelling. It's very basic, doesn't try to be genre savvy too often, and instead focuses on gameplay. The storyline focuses on some themes in Tolkien's work, but they are ultimately to superflous to my liking.

As for my favourite series among them, it's Dragon Age all the way. RPGs like that have always been my favourite game genre. Based on Witcher 2 the lore is pretty awesome but pales in comparison to the scale of the Dragon Age universe.

The world is much more detailed with a far more in depth history than Witcher 2 anyways.

Zelda is pretty basic but some people really love this shit so I figured I'd toss in this average series.

ScreamPaste
I like Zelda best. I've never played the Witcher series though, so I can only compare it to Dragon Age.

This should surprise no one.

Sacred 117
I never played The Witcher or finished a Dragon Age game (never had time, unfortunately), but I feel I can safely attest to most of what NemeBro had to say about them. I feel like his/her mention of "clever ideas" in regards to Zelda's writing was more or less a reference to its "deeper" story/lore elements. With that in mind, I think everything s/he said was pretty much solid.

Nephthys
These are all terrible franchises to compare btw. They're pretty damn different tonally and in genre. They may all be fantasy but Zelda is light and kiddy, Dragon Age tries to be darker but it's really pretty stock High Fantasy and the Witcher is actually legitimately dark, realistic and hardcore medieval bollocks. Which you find more appealing is a matter of personal taste, though I maintain that it's Witcher>DA>Zelda in terms of quality.

But that's just my opinion. Because I find the more mature tone and writing to be a mark of superior quality. Others would disagree.

FinalAnswer
Originally posted by Nephthys
They may all be fantasy but Zelda is light and kiddy

Go play Majora's Mask

Sacred 117
Originally posted by Nephthys
But that's just my opinion. Because I find the more mature tone and writing to be a mark of superior quality. Others would disagree.

I would disagree only with the premise that "maturity" alone is the inherent component of quality. I mean, we might otherwise be kidding ourselves with the idea that Twisted Metal is better written than the Avatar series. That said, I don't take you for the type to think in such shallow terms, so I see where you come from. (I would hope as much, anyways.)

Oh, and...

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Go play Majora's Mask

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cdtm
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Go play Majora's Mask

Or even OOT.

cdtm
Originally posted by NemeBro
Objectively, Dragon Age and the Witcher are both superior to the Legend of Zelda in terms of writing. Zelda is ultimately a pretty basic story with a standard plot but some clever ideas thrown in. I myself prefer the Witcher's setting to Dragon Age's (and actually, Zelda's setting is probably the only writing aspect of the series that could compare to or surpass the others, but it has had far more time to develop its setting), but Dragon Age has better characters (I'm not far through 2 though).

In terms of gameplay Zelda easily beats both though. Dragon Age is a fairly standard tactical RPG, and the first Witcher frankly had sort of ass gameplay. 2 is better, but still doesn't match up to the real-time action and exploration Zelda provides.

All three are good series, so it really depends on what you're looking for in a game. I like them all just fine. I will say that Majora's Mask and Wind Waker are two games I probably like more than any Witcher or Dragon Age game.

Agreed.

IMO, these games aren't really comparable to each other. Skyrim's probably a closer comparison to Zelda (Hell, it even has a stupid water puzzle.)

Sacred 117
Originally posted by cdtm
Or even OOT.

This too. thumb up

Dramatic Gecko
Haven't played Witcher yet. But Dragon Age and Zelda have the good points and bad points. I would have to say thought that Zelda's bad points are kinda irrelevant to the experience. A lot more writing went in Dragon Age and actually being able to pursue love interests is a major plus. But the act of moving around and talking to people seemed kinda unnatural and when I wanted to go explore over there for the **** of it I felt like the game just got tedious and boring. But story wise its hard to flaw it.

The Zelda games are just a beast and is more mentally engaging then most aspects of Dragon Age. Its still one of the true problem solving adventure games and personally I just like the intelligence and thought put into the transition of the games. The story just flowed organically I supposed while Dragon Age was more mechanical.

Also the intellectual complexity put into the setting/story of Majora's Mask out shines any Dragon Age I've played.

P.S. I didn't want to be a Grey Warden... :'(

Sacred 117
Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Haven't played Witcher yet. But Dragon Age and Zelda have the good points and bad points. I would have to say thought that Zelda's bad points are kinda irrelevant to the experience. A lot more writing went in Dragon Age and actually being able to pursue love interests is a major plus. But the act of moving around and talking to people seemed kinda unnatural and when I wanted to go explore over there for the **** of it I felt like the game just got tedious and boring. But story wise its hard to flaw it.

The Zelda games are just a beast and is more mentally engaging then most aspects of Dragon Age. Its still one of the true problem solving adventure games and personally I just like the intelligence and thought put into the transition of the games. The story just flowed organically I supposed while Dragon Age was more mechanical.

Also the intellectual complexity put into the setting/story of Majora's Mask out shines any Dragon Age I've played.

P.S. I didn't want to be a Grey Warden... :'(

F**k. Now I wished I had played more of each game so I could have the working knowledge to provide similarly concise comparative input. I feel half f**king stupid right now. sad

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Dramatic Gecko
The biggest problem I had with the plot was that they didn't let me stay in the forest. The game just booted me out and made me a grey Warden. You think with so much "supposed freedom" I could stay in the forest like happy elf hippy and hump the trees till I'm bored. But no lets go kill a dragon.

Based
Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
The biggest problem I had with the plot was that they didn't let me stay in the forest. The game just booted me out and made me a grey Warden. You think with so much "supposed freedom" I could stay in the forest like happy elf hippy and hump the trees till I'm bored. But no lets go kill a dragon.

BioWare games are never free. They take pride in that. That being said, I encourage you to give DA:O another shot because after all the introduction stuff, the game is amazing.

You aren't free to do what you want but this is the best BioWare has to offer and you can tackle a storyline literally in dozens of truly, truly different ways. DA2 sucked and DA3 was nothing special.

For the others, I barely played Witcher and while the gameplan is great I just couldn't get into it. I'm sure it's quality and better than DA2 but I don't see myself playing it soon.

Zelda is unfair to lump in since it's glory days and it's impact on gaming were way before the time of either DA or the Witcher. The other tow are PC RPGs and the freedom on developing it is unfair compared to Nintendo consoles. I'm not knowledgeable on the lore of Zelda but it must be pretty in depth to have years and years of canon debates about the timeline. Regardless, Zelda should be left to its own thing.

As for Witcher or DA, DA takes it but that's only because DA:O was one of the best RPGs imo.

quanchi112

Nephthys
Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
The biggest problem I had with the plot was that they didn't let me stay in the forest. The game just booted me out and made me a grey Warden. You think with so much "supposed freedom" I could stay in the forest like happy elf hippy and hump the trees till I'm bored. But no lets go kill a dragon.

You can stay in the forest all you want. If you don't advance the plot you can **** around all you want. There's nothing to really do or many people to talk to or places to go and I don't understand why you'd want to do that or why you'd expect Bioware to cater to your silly nonsense but you can do it. I guess.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Go play Majora's Mask

The game in which you play an actual child? Children's media can have tragic or dark elements and still be for children. Majora's Mask is still a colourful, cartoony fantasy world with a lot of goofy nonsense whose target audience includes children. Compared to Dragon Age and the Witcher, two games that include rape, murder, blood, genocide, racism, sexism etc etc in their narrative, no Zelda game raises an eyebrow.

FinalAnswer
Majora's Mask does contain murder, blood, genocide, and racism.

quanchi112
Comparing the zelda series to these games in terms of maturity is hilarious. They are both heads and shoulders above mutish link and his puberty adventures.

FinalAnswer
Quiet you.

ScreamPaste
Originally posted by Nephthys
The game in which you play an actual child?
Link's a kid? So was Anne Frank. thumb up

Also he was only a child physically because time travel shenanigans. Even so, the inclusion of a child character does not make the work itself childish.

FinalAnswer
Like Arya Stark.

Sacred 117
Originally posted by Sacred 117
I don't take you for the type to think in such shallow terms...

Please, tell me I wasn't wrong about this? erm

ScreamPaste
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Like Arya Stark.
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quanchi112
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Quiet you. Zelda does not stack up to either of these games in terms of maturity. It isn't close.

FinalAnswer
Ok

Sacred 117
Originally posted by quanchi112
Zelda does not stack up to either of these games in terms of maturity. It isn't close.

I'm bored. You're boring.

Impromptu spitefest: Nui vs. Corypheus (because f**k you)! GO!

(BTW, there's a stray letter in your sig. stick out tongue)

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quanchi112
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Ok Damn right.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Sacred 117
I'm bored. You're boring.

Impromptu spitefest: Nui vs. Corypheus (because f**k you)! GO!

(BTW, there's a stray letter in your sig. stick out tongue)

link-rape I do not seek to entertain you. I have no idea who that guy is but I do know Corypheus is far greater than Ganondorf.

Sacred 117
Originally posted by quanchi112
I do not seek to entertain you. I have no idea who that guy is but I do know Corypheus is far greater than Ganondorf.

All three of these things are wrong.

1. You're still making petty anti-Zelda threads with the laughably transparent guise of objectivity. You clearly want my attention. Glad to know I live rent-free in your head. thumb up

2.Nui's not a guy.

3. Corypheus get shit on.

link-rape

Nephthys
Nui would curbstomp Corypheus. Not fair.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Majora's Mask does contain murder, blood, genocide, and racism.

In cartoonish ways. It's not as if you actually get to see masses of ripped apart bodies and shit. Or walk through a race-riot. Or watch a friend get his throat slit in front of his children. When people/monsters get hurt they flash different colors and explode into sparkles. The genocide you talk about is a cartoon moon with a face hitting a town. Dark stuff is mostly implied rather than shown in graphic detail. Tonally, these things are nothing alike.

The only thing I said was that these games have different tones. The majority of Majora's Mask (hahaha) is still rather light and kiddy. From the music and design to the characters and themes. Dragon Age and the Witcher are rated mature games and are tonally different from Zelda titles.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link's a kid? So was Anne Frank. thumb up

Also he was only a child physically because time travel shenanigans. Even so, the inclusion of a child character does not make the work itself childish.

And that's definitely a valid comparison! Nice job! thumb up

Playing a game from a child's perspective does tend to add a childlike air to things though. Link being a child wasn't the only thing I mentioned, however.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Please, tell me I wasn't wrong about this? erm

Nothing I've said has been derogatory. Being childish is not a mark against the work. I simply personally find more mature storyline's to be superior experiences. Maturity alone is not an inherent mark of quality, obviously. Faux-maturity is awful. Just throwing blood and **** everywhere or making pseudo-intellectual monologues about inane bs isn't actually mature writing. But in general I would say that two stories that are equally well told where one is simplistic and childish and the other is mature and complex, then I'd prefer the latter. I watch a lot of cartoons and animated movies, so obviously I have nothing against children's media. I can like childish, immature stuff. But the cartoons I think are superior works are those that touch upon more mature subjects in meaningful ways. I'm simply an adult and thus I'm more interested in stories about politics and psychology and sex and human nature and shit like that. Those kinds of things just strike me as more complex, deep and interesting story elements than you'd (explicitly) find in less mature content. I already acknowledged that this is just my perspective and it's up to personal taste.


If it helps, I do think that the Witcher and Dragon Age are "objectively" better told games with superior storylines. Better stories, better characters, better themes, more interesting settings. Just like I said at the start.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Sacred 117
All three of these things are wrong.

1. You're still making petty anti-Zelda threads with the laughably transparent guise of objectivity. You clearly want my attention. Glad to know I live rent-free in your head. thumb up

2.Nui's not a guy.

3. Corypheus get shit on.

link-rape This is a subjective thread in which people share their opinions on what they prefer.

Whatever nui is probably sucks.

**** no. Unlike Dorf this guy is a threat to a pretty respectable fantasy world that is actually formidable not just some peasant world that relies on some zit faced Link to save it time and time again.

Sacred 117
Originally posted by Nephthys
Nui would curbstomp Corypheus. Not fair.



In cartoonish ways. It's not as if you actually get to see masses of ripped apart bodies and shit. Or walk through a race-riot. Or watch a friend get his throat slit in front of his children. When people/monsters get hurt they flash different colors and explode into sparkles. The genocide you talk about is a cartoon moon with a face hitting a town. Dark stuff is mostly implied rather than shown in graphic detail. Tonally, these things are nothing alike.

The only thing I said was that these games have different tones. The majority of Majora's Mask (hahaha) is still rather light and kiddy. From the music and design to the characters and themes. Dragon Age and the Witcher are rated mature games and are tonally different from Zelda titles.



And that's definitely a valid comparison! Nice job! thumb up

Playing a game from a child's perspective does tend to add a childlike air to things though. Link being a child wasn't the only thing I mentioned, however.



Nothing I've said has been derogatory. Being childish is not a mark against the work. I simply personally find more mature storyline's to be superior experiences. Maturity alone is not an inherent mark of quality, obviously. Faux-maturity is awful. Just throwing blood and **** everywhere or making pseudo-intellectual monologues about inane bs isn't actually mature writing. But in general I would say that two stories that are equally well told where one is simplistic and childish and the other is mature and complex, then I'd prefer the latter. I watch a lot of cartoons and animated movies, so obviously I have nothing against children's media. I can like childish, immature stuff. But the cartoons I think are superior works are those that touch upon more mature subjects in meaningful ways. I'm simply an adult and thus I'm more interested in stories about politics and psychology and sex and human nature and shit like that. Those kinds of things just strike me as more complex, deep and interesting story elements than you'd (explicitly) find in less mature content. I already acknowledged that this is just my perspective and it's up to personal taste.


If it helps, I do think that the Witcher and Dragon Age are "objectively" better told games with superior storylines. Better stories, better characters, better themes, more interesting settings. Just like I said at the start.

Good. Just making sure. Haha big grin

You're alright, Neph. thumb up


Originally posted by quanchi112
This is a subjective thread in which people share their opinions on what they prefer.

Whatever nui is probably sucks.

**** no. Unlike Dorf this guy is a threat to a pretty respectable fantasy world that is actually formidable not just some peasant world that relies on some zit faced Link to save it time and time again.

Sure... one you made pretending to have a balanced perspective.

I don't like her either, but <<<<Corypheus. I mainly just want to see you and FA fight now. stick out tongue

More simplistic, inaccurate insults, huh? ("Zit-faced" pretty boy? "Peasant world" with a kingdom?) I hoped you would be more fun. C'mon, man! Where's your flavor?



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Dramatic Gecko
Majora's Mask ideas and concepts > More than anything I saw in Dragon Age

For all the murder and blood and guts on screen its fairly shallow and predictable. The kinda thing a 14 year old will obsess over and horrible things does not equal maturity.

Dragon Age had good RPG gameplay and a complex setting. But all in all its quite shallow compared to some of the more literary titles of the Zelda Series.

Dramatic Gecko
Originally posted by Nephthys
You can stay in the forest all you want. If you don't advance the plot you can **** around all you want. There's nothing to really do or many people to talk to or places to go and I don't understand why you'd want to do that or why you'd expect Bioware to cater to your silly nonsense but you can do it. I guess.


That's what I meant. When I wanted to dawdle and **** around like I do in free roam games everything was boring... I didn't like that aspect... But like you said I can't expect BioWare to accommodate for my time wasting shenanigans.

ares834
Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Majora's Mask ideas and concepts > More than anything I saw in Dragon Age

For all the murder and blood and guts on screen its fairly shallow and predictable. The kinda thing a 14 year old will obsess over and horrible things does not equal maturity.

Dragon Age had good RPG gameplay and a complex setting. But all in all its quite shallow compared to some of the more literary titles of the Zelda Series.

I'd certainly agree that MM had more "depth" than any DA game (aside perhaps from DA2).

Dramatic Gecko
Oooo. Haven't played 2 yet. If it has literary elements I'll be sure to give it a whirl.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Sacred 117
Good. Just making sure. Haha big grin

You're alright, Neph. thumb up




Sure... one you made pretending to have a balanced perspective.

I don't like her either, but <<<<Corypheus. I mainly just want to see you and FA fight now. stick out tongue

More simplistic, inaccurate insults, huh? ("Zit-faced" pretty boy? "Peasant world" with a kingdom?) I hoped you would be more fun. C'mon, man! Where's your flavor?



http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fe_gaius_thumb.jpg This is about personal preferences and nothing more.

I have no idea who she is. I do know Corypheus shits on Dorf from Tp.

FinalAnswer
Originally posted by Nephthys
In cartoonish ways. It's not as if you actually get to see masses of ripped apart bodies and shit. Or walk through a race-riot. Or watch a friend get his throat slit in front of his children. When people/monsters get hurt they flash different colors and explode into sparkles. The genocide you talk about is a cartoon moon with a face hitting a town. Dark stuff is mostly implied rather than shown in graphic detail. Tonally, these things are nothing alike.

The only thing I said was that these games have different tones. The majority of Majora's Mask (hahaha) is still rather light and kiddy. From the music and design to the characters and themes. Dragon Age and the Witcher are rated mature games and are tonally different from Zelda titles.


I don't know, the way the game presented such matters as a mother distraught over her children being kidnapped, a little girl caring for her transformed and demented father, a woman trying to comfort her naive little sister in the face of the apocalypse, a man mugging an old woman in the middle of the night, the deaths of Darmani and Mikau, the relationship between Kafei and Anju, and everything in Ikana Canyon really are all presented in a relatively serious and mature manner. I'm not arguing that Dragon Age and The Witcher are not more mature in their storytelling then Zelda, because they are, I simply disagree with the notion that the Zelda series is nothing but light-hearted and "kiddy".

And the genocide I was referring to wasn't the moon falling, although that too is presented in a pretty horrific fashion, I was mostly referring to the destruction of the kingdom of Ikana.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
I don't like her either, but <<<<Corypheus. I mainly just want to see you and FA fight now. stick out tongue

Please don't do that. Even if Quan knew who she was and was willing to debate about her, I neither have the time nor desire to do 50 pages of pointless arguing with him.

Rezactic
Dragon Age Universe is pretty compelling, especially since everything that happens occurs on one continent, I'd like to see more of the universe though, like other continents or what's beyond the desert in DA Inquisition or the jungle. Witcher has the better story though I think.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Rezactic
Dragon Age Universe is pretty compelling, especially since everything that happens occurs on one continent, I'd like to see more of the universe though, like other continents or what's beyond the desert in DA Inquisition or the jungle. Witcher has the better story though I think. Witcher does not have the better story.

Blights>>>>Witcher. It's great but not as great as Dragon Age.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Sacred 117
Good. Just making sure. Haha big grin

You're alright, Neph. thumb up




Sure... one you made pretending to have a balanced perspective.

I don't like her either, but <<<<Corypheus. I mainly just want to see you and FA fight now. stick out tongue

More simplistic, inaccurate insults, huh? ("Zit-faced" pretty boy? "Peasant world" with a kingdom?) I hoped you would be more fun. C'mon, man! Where's your flavor?



http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fe_gaius_thumb.jpg I do have an honest one.


Hyrule has been conquered already. I may need to find a new franchise to antagonize. Maybe if the elder scrolls fans would defend their series for a change.

The Scenario
Who conquered Hyrule? It definitely wasn't you, quan.

Happy now?

quanchi112
Originally posted by The Scenario
Who conquered Hyrule? It definitely wasn't you, quan.

Happy now? You lack the fire you once had. And Tp seems to be the most formidable zelda game out there armies and invasion wise from what I've heard anyways.

Sacred 117
Originally posted by quanchi112
I do have an honest one.


Hyrule has been conquered already. I may need to find a new franchise to antagonize. Maybe if the elder scrolls fans would defend their series for a change.

You responded to the same comment twice. Are you that lonely, or are you truly just so forgetful? I guess that would explain your arbitrary, imaginary idea of "victory". What a senile basic. haermm

If you want someone else to talk shit to, there's always the worse half of the Naruto fanbase. They're pretty funny, and they're not hard to find (as you likely will on accident). There's no shortage of hideous overestimation in their ranks. Just look for that. They practically ridicule themselves, so I'll be disappointed (though, not by much, since it's you) if you can't find something to beat them with. (Seriously, it's not hard to do.)


Originally posted by The Scenario
Who conquered Hyrule? It definitely wasn't you, quan.

Happy now?

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quanchi112
Originally posted by Sacred 117
You responded to the same comment twice. Are you that lonely, or are you truly just so forgetful? I guess that would explain your arbitrary, imaginary idea of "victory". What a senile basic. haermm

If you want someone else to talk shit to, there's always the worse half of the Naruto fanbase. They're pretty funny, and they're not hard to find (as you likely will on accident). There's no shortage of hideous overestimation in their ranks. Just look for that. They practically ridicule themselves, so I'll be disappointed (though, not by much, since it's you) if you can't find something to beat them with. (Seriously, it's not hard to do.)




thumb upthumb upthumb upthumb up I just wanted to ram the point home. I'm glad the message got through.

I thoroughly decimated hyrule. Scenario has been broken as a person and does not even like to argue for hyrule anymore.


Blight>>>Ganondorf.

LLLLLink
Originally posted by quanchi112

Blight>>>Ganondorf.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/KTPWCXFkLYs/hqdefault.jpg

NotAllThatEvil
Originally posted by quanchi112
You lack the fire you once had. And Tp seems to be the most formidable zelda game out there armies and invasion wise from what I've heard anyways. nope. Majora's mask has more. You probably wouldn't like it though...

quanchi112
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
nope. Majora's mask has more. You probably wouldn't like it though... So iyo majora's mask would beat TP ?

quanchi112
Originally posted by LLLLLink
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/KTPWCXFkLYs/hqdefault.jpg Trash him. Probably scare him too.

Sacred 117
Originally posted by quanchi112
I just wanted to ram the point home. I'm glad the message got through.

I thoroughly decimated hyrule. Scenario has been broken as a person and does not even like to argue for hyrule anymore.


Blight>>>Ganondorf.

You mean Scen, like the rest of us, is bored to hell of sodomizing your championed character or verse in horribly lopsided "TP only" threads? Who can blame him?

Maybe if you'd get the led out of your ass and do some damn research instead of looking for ways to justify your xenophobia, we could actually get somewhere. (The release of DA:I is literally the only good excuse you've ever had.)

P.S. Scene still showed up to tell you wrong, so I'm not sure where the delusion of him somehow "giving up" came from. haermm

Sacred 117
Originally posted by quanchi112
So iyo majora's mask would beat TP ?

It's certainly not out of the question.

LLLLLink
Originally posted by Sacred 117
You mean Scen, like the rest of us, is bored to hell of sodomizing your championed character or verse in horribly lopsided "TP only" threads? Who can blame him?



Im feeling this way with BeyonderGod right now, lol.

Sacred 117
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Im feeling this way with BeyonderGod right now, lol.

Quan at least can be entertaining, if only for a moment, and honestly, I think that's his main gain. BG just tries to self-satisfy, not realizing there are better, easier ways to do that.

LLLLLink
Originally posted by Sacred 117
Quan at least can be entertaining, if only for a moment, and honestly, I think that's his main gain. BG just tries to self-satisfy, not realizing there are better, easier ways to do that.

Gives me Vietnam-style flashbacks of BurningThought...

quanchi112
Originally posted by Sacred 117
You mean Scen, like the rest of us, is bored to hell of sodomizing your championed character or verse in horribly lopsided "TP only" threads? Who can blame him?

Maybe if you'd get the led out of your ass and do some damn research instead of looking for ways to justify your xenophobia, we could actually get somewhere. (The release of DA:I is literally the only good excuse you've ever had.)

P.S. Scene still showed up to tell you wrong, so I'm not sure where the delusion of him somehow "giving up" came from. haermm According to who the delusional zelda fans ? Be serious for a moment. Most of the threads are people posting out of ignorance for their side which is the definition of bias.

Most of the zelda debating tactics are exaggerated to epic proportions. I do my research but apparently the zelda fans don't have to because twilight fields, solos, etc. Nonsense. It's painfully bias and ignorant.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Sacred 117
It's certainly not out of the question. Well, what do you believe ?

LLLLLink
Originally posted by quanchi112
Accoding to who the delsional zelda fans ? Be serious for a moment. Most of the threads are people posting out of ignorance for their side which is the definition of bias.

Most of the zelda debating tactics are exaggerated to epic proportions. I do my research but apparently the zelda fans don't have to because twilight fields, solos, etc. Nonsense. It's painfully bias and ignorant.


Sorry, but if you think a guy like Scenerio lacks evidence and is bias, you're fantasizing. He always produces walls of text to back up his claims.

quanchi112
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Sorry, but if you think a guy like Scenerio lacks evidence and is bias, you're fantasizing. He always produces walls of text to back up his claims. I did not say he does not have evidence but it is skewed imo and he openly admits to arguing without knowing about the other side.

LLLLLink
Originally posted by quanchi112
I did not say he does not have evidence but it is skewed imo and he openly admits to arguing without knowing about the other side.

That pretty much everyone, isnt it? Cant know everything about everything....

quanchi112
Originally posted by LLLLLink
That pretty much everyone, isnt it? Cant know everything about everything.... I do not expect anyone to be as nerdy as knowing every nerdy fantasy feat but arguing out of ignorance is bias. You do know that. I don't hate that but I acknowledge it is what it is.

NotAllThatEvil
Originally posted by quanchi112
So iyo majora's mask would beat TP ?

Chew it up and spit it out. There's no ganon but majora still has cool feats and that link in my opinion is the strongest.

ScreamPaste
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Chew it up and spit it out. There's no ganon but majora still has cool feats and that link in my opinion is the strongest. MM Link was separated from both the ToC and MS, while powerful, relative to his older self, he is less so.

The Scenario
TP Link is one of the weaker Links out there, too. TP Ganonorf is alright, but still not the strongest.

The real problem is that quanchi wants an army battle and Zelda doesn't typically do armies. Zelda does single characters with power, hence why guys like Ganondorf can solo armies. Like in ALttP, for example, where Ganon mind-controlled an entire army. Or how Link solos an army is Skyward Sword. Heck, even Zelda destroys every monster in the world in Minish Cap. Then there's Hyrule Warriors, but lol.

If you want an army battle, though, quan, have you considered an army based series like Fire Emblem?

quanchi112
Originally posted by The Scenario
TP Link is one of the weaker Links out there, too. TP Ganonorf is alright, but still not the strongest.

The real problem is that quanchi wants an army battle and Zelda doesn't typically do armies. Zelda does single characters with power, hence why guys like Ganondorf can solo armies. Like in ALttP, for example, where Ganon mind-controlled an entire army. Or how Link solos an army is Skyward Sword. Heck, even Zelda destroys every monster in the world in Minish Cap. Then there's Hyrule Warriors, but lol.

If you want an army battle, though, quan, have you considered an army based series like Fire Emblem? I do not care which Link is the strongest or weakest. I just care which Zelda has the best chance with massive armies. Tp did an ok job with that since they had the shadow beasts, Dorf, Zant, Midna, Link, Gorons, etc.



I have never played Fire emblem. How old is this series ?

The Scenario
TP stomps armies because Twilight Field and Ganondorf. Anyway,

Fire Emblem was first released in Japan in 1990. It didn't come to America until 2003. There are 13 games in the series and another on the way. The most recent one is Awakening for the 3DS. I also recommend Dawn of Radiance and Radiant Dawn for the Gamecube. Or Fire Emblem for the Gameboy Advance.

They're all about armies and stuff.

quanchi112
Originally posted by The Scenario
TP stomps armies because Twilight Field and Ganondorf. Anyway,

Fire Emblem was first released in Japan in 1990. It didn't come to America until 2003. There are 13 games in the series and another on the way. The most recent one is Awakening for the 3DS. I also recommend Dawn of Radiance and Radiant Dawn for the Gamecube. Or Fire Emblem for the Gameboy Advance.

They're all about armies and stuff. I disagree. Dorf would be easily beaten just like he did by link with a magical sword and some aid or by the sages.

I hate portable games and would rather do a witcher, elder scrolls, or zelda one.

quanchi112
Just completed both dlc' of Dragon Age Inquisition with the final dlc on the way next week. It's safe to say Hyrule and Temeria would get ****ed hard here.

RadZoa
Witcher

quanchi112
Originally posted by RadZoa
Witcher Would what ?

quanchi112
Why can't any Witcher loving cowards come forward to meet Dragon Age ?

Adam Grimes
Shut up, Quan.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Shut up, Quan. Says the coward to Quan. Keep running, wimp.

StealthRanger
Go kill yourself quan

quanchi112
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Go kill yourself quan laughing out loud

The ultimate weak response. Someone take on my Dragon Age universe. You are all backing down to me.

StealthRanger
Sorry, aren't you supposed to be in the middle of being molested by your parents?

quanchi112
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Sorry, aren't you supposed to be in the middle of being molested by your parents? You are trying to change the subject because you're weak.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
Says the coward to Quan. Keep running, wimp. That's your thing, Forrest.

Utrigita
Originally posted by quanchi112
laughing out loud

The ultimate weak response. Someone take on my Dragon Age universe. You are all backing down to me.

Why would anyone "take you on", when the entire premises for the thread is

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not a straight up versus but more or less compare the lore, story, etc. and what you prefer out of these three series.

And having played Dragon Age Inquisition, A very small amount of Legend of Zelda and Witcher, I can say that I prefer Witcher but to each his own.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
That's your thing, Forrest. Typical lame comeback from a forgettable poster.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Utrigita
Why would anyone "take you on", when the entire premises for the thread is



And having played Dragon Age Inquisition, A very small amount of Legend of Zelda and Witcher, I can say that I prefer Witcher but to each his own. The battlezone would be a versus battle not a what do you like more type thing. Witcher is great don't get me wrong but Dragon Age is the best.

Characters like Corypheus and Solas would scare wreck the shit out of Witcherverse.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
Typical lame comeback from a forgettable poster. erm, stop being so loser, Quan. It's for your own good.

PS: The Witcher 3 still beats DA:I, ha!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
erm, stop being so loser, Quan. It's for your own good.

PS: The Witcher 3 still beats DA:I, ha! Then battlezone it. Corypheus and Solas would hammer Geralt's ***** ass.

Adam Grimes
A versus fight? Really?

What a simpleton.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
A versus fight? Really?

What a simpleton. Accept you coward.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Zelda > Witcher > DA

In everything, my opinion. ^^

quanchi112
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Zelda > Witcher > DA

In everything, my opinion. ^^ Dragon Age would assault Zelda that weak ass verse. Superior leaders, power, magic, organization, numbers, and versatility.

Prof. T.C McAbe

FinalAnswer
I think people overrate how generic Dragon Age is. Sure, from a brief overlook, it looks fairly typical (Humans, Elves, Dwarves, Magic, Orc-esque monsters, Demons), but it's how they do their spin on these elements that's fairly non-standard. I don't recall any other fantasy setting where Dwarves live in an Indian-esque Caste society that is plagued by political intrigue and backstabbing.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
thumb up

Pretty much. Zelda is kind of unique, or was when it came out and even by today standards the world is unlike many others, the races, the flavour etc. Witcher is darker and almost as good, as it is a mix between the standard D&D settings with an big influence of non standard mythology. DA is very generic, the story, the setting, it's like World of Warcraft, Guild Wars 2 or most other generic Fantasy settings, Civil war, demon invasion blabla. Been there done that stuff. You have no idea about Dragon Age if you call it generic and praise the most stale formula of all three of these franchises in Zelda. You're a DC fan so you're prone to make stupid decisions.

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