The BLACK ORDER vs Exodus, Spiral, Ghost Rider, Deathurge, and Blue Marvel

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basilisk
Thanos has ordered the Order to kill everybody. Fight takes place on a barren moon.

Corvus Glaive
Proxima Midnight
Ebony Maw
Supergiant
Black Dwarf

vs

Exodus
Spiral
Ghost Rider (Johnny)
Deathurge agent of Oblivion
Blue Marvel

carver9
Exodus is a huge problem for the Thanos team. Humongous problem for them.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Exodus is a huge problem for the Thanos team. Humongous problem for them.

PM would be a good match for him, like Ebony Knight was.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
PM would be a good match for him, like Ebony Knight was.

Why would she be a good match? She would get mind raped.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Why would she be a good match? She would get mind raped.

The spear. Supergiant/Ebony Maw could distract Exodus, even if it is just for a second - they managed to control Dr Strange, after all, no mean guy on the astral plane himself.

Tbh, I don't even know what Ebony Maw's powers are. He's deliberately been shrouded in mystery.

A second or whatever would be all she needed to throw her spear. Depends on how fast you see that spear, I guess.

deathslash
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The spear. Supergiant/Ebony Maw could distract Exodus, even if it is just for a second - they managed to control Dr Strange, after all, no mean guy on the astral plane himself.

Tbh, I don't even know what Ebony Maw's powers are. He's deliberately been shrouded in mystery.

A second or whatever would be all she needed to throw her spear. Depends on how fast you see that spear, I guess. couldn't spiral just create a portal an dump these guys into outer space? She could also teleport the spear away right?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The spear. Supergiant/Ebony Maw could distract Exodus, even if it is just for a second - they managed to control Dr Strange, after all, no mean guy on the astral plane himself.

Tbh, I don't even know what Ebony Maw's powers are. He's deliberately been shrouded in mystery.

A second or whatever would be all she needed to throw her spear. Depends on how fast you see that spear, I guess.

Won't work. Exodus would mind rape them from the get go along while redirecting their attacks back at them. He did this to the entirety of the Xmen who have fts better than anyone on the Thanos crew when it comes to TP resistance. This doesn't include everything else he can do.

Also, what's Ebony best TP resistance ft?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Won't work. Exodus would mind rape them from the get go along with redirecting their attacks back at them. He did this to the entirety of the Xmen who have fts better than anyone on the Thanos crew when it comes to TP resistance. This doesn't include everything else he can do.

Also, what's Ebony best TP resistance ft?

And Super Giant, don't forget.

Ebony - no idea. No idea how his powers work, what they are - does he need to speak for it to take effect? Is it pheromones? Mental? How long does it take? Does he even have any superpowers? No idea. A true and proper wildcard. I can't say it will work for certain, and you can't say it won't work for certain, as we haven't seen much of him and there has been no explanation as yet.

@deathslash: depends how fast you view her spears. Shuri/T'Challa dodged them, Spectrum (who has gone light speed before) wasn't able to.

carver9
Originally posted by deathslash
couldn't spiral just create a portal an dump these guys into outer space? She could also teleport the spear away right?

She sure could and you quoted a guy that's famous for bringing up BFR tactics.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And Super Giant, don't forget.

Ebony - no idea. No idea how his powers work, what they are - does he need to speak for it to take effect? Is it pheromones? Mental? How long does it take? Does he even have any superpowers? No idea. A true and proper wildcard. I can't say it will work for certain, and you can't say it won't work for certain, as we haven't seen much of him and there has been no explanation as yet.

@deathslash: depends how fast you view her spears. Shuri/T'Challa dodged them, Spectrum (who has gone light speed before) wasn't able to.

Super Giant gets bfred.

It doesn't work like that though. You don't have any evidence supporting Maw resisting someone on Exodus caliber. The way Exodus fights, he could solo this.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
She sure could and you quoted a guy that's famous for bringing up BFR tactics.

So you admit that Spiral could out-react the spears? Cool.

Originally posted by carver9
Super Giant gets bfred.

It doesn't work like that though. You don't have any evidence supporting Maw resisting someone on Exodus caliber. The way Exodus fights, he could solo this.

Does Spiral have general knowledge, then? I usually pull it up for the Hulk, as everyone (or nearly everyone) on Marvel Earth knows, the madder he gets, the stronger he gets. So your best bet is to get rid of him early.

True, I have no evidence. At the same time, neither of us have ANY evidence of Maw being susceptible to TP. This is essentially like a Golgo thread after one comic issue - no feats whatsoever.

carver9
Sigh...I'll be back.

basilisk
No BFR, to make it so the fight isn't over too easily.

Insane Titan
Black Order win

AlmightyKfish
Eh I'd say team 2 have this.

There's just overall more power in their corner.

abhilegend
Deathurge is above anybody here.

carver9
@Darksaint...

Pay attention to Rachel in these scans.

The Xmen shows up to take on Exodus.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127151/006.jpg.html

Pay attention to Rachel as she is not fighting. This is the 2nd page of the fight.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127152/007.jpg.html

Keep your eyes on Rachel. She's still not fighting but the entirety of the Xmen is.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127153/008.jpg.html

Still not fighting.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127154/009.jpg.html

Still flying around not fighting.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127155/010.jpg.html

Let's find out why she isn't fighting Exodus.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127157/011.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127160/012.jpg.html

Exodus is fighting her on the astral plane WHILE taking on a group of powerful Xmen and winning. What's the point of this? Exodus would start his attack off via mind rape. You don't have a single shed of proof that anyone on the opposing team could survive this. Once Exodus distracted Rachel, this happened.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127172/017.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127173/018.jpg.html

Like I've said before, Exodus can solo this unless we are still playing the guessing game.

Who said anything about Spiral being faster than Proxima? Proximal would be busy fighting either someone else or preventing her mind from getting raped which would lead to an opening.

abhilegend
Deathurge would one shot this lower.

StiltmanFTW
Exodus is a team wrecker with too many powers to list.

Spiral is hax.

GR is no pushover regardless of the version.

Dunno about Deathurge. Seems pretty versatile, but I'd need to read up on him.

BM is a powerhouse that taught Hyperion and Sentry a lesson...


Can't see the Black Order doing much here, tbh. They get raped, hard.

DarkSaint85
Stilt, abhi, you make good points. Team 2 wins.

Glorificus
Originally posted by carver9
@Darksaint...

Pay attention to Rachel in these scans.

The Xmen shows up to take on Exodus.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127151/006.jpg.html

Pay attention to Rachel as she is not fighting. This is the 2nd page of the fight.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127152/007.jpg.html

Keep your eyes on Rachel. She's still not fighting but the entirety of the Xmen is.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127153/008.jpg.html

Still not fighting.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127154/009.jpg.html

Still flying around not fighting.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127155/010.jpg.html

Let's find out why she isn't fighting Exodus.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127157/011.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127160/012.jpg.html

Exodus is fighting her on the astral plane WHILE taking on a group of powerful Xmen and winning. What's the point of this? Exodus would start his attack off via mind rape. You don't have a single shed of proof that anyone on the opposing team could survive this. Once Exodus distracted Rachel, this happened.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127172/017.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127173/018.jpg.html

Like I've said before, Exodus can solo this unless we are still playing the guessing game.

Who said anything about Spiral being faster than Proxima? Proximal would be busy fighting either someone else or preventing her mind from getting raped which would lead to an opening.

Gawd, Rachel is so frickin' incompetent for someone supposedly so powerful.

Emma Frost had Exodus psychically tied up to the point where his entire consciousness was focused on their astral battle and he was unable to use any of his other powers... or even become aware he was breathing in Dust.

Rachel must have barely occupied a tenth of Exodus's attention for him to be fighting the entire X-team at the same time.

Anyways, Team 2 wins vast majority.

nwg202
team 2 wins

Insane Titan
If Thanos is with the black order they stomp

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