Originally posted by abhilegend
Although Galactus says otherwise? I don't understand how you're not getting this. It's like you've put up wall mode around this. Let me try to explain so you can't... do whatever it is you think you're doing.
High Evolutionary fires regular blasts. Galactus blasts those blasts, and gets hit with one as the art would indicate.
High Evolutionary then decides to fire a blast that will devolve Galactus.
"This blast"
Galactus gets hit in second last panel. High Evolutionary says he will devolve him in the last panel of the page. Which means the rest of this page is irrelevant to High Evolutionary's devolving power. To find out what happens when his devolving ray is fired, we would have to flip to the very next page.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/High%20Evolutionary/ffgalactus4zu2.jpg
Now, we are on the next page. We have prior info that the blast in the top panel of this page is a blast meant to devolve. And Galactus says perhaps it would, if it struck him. Because this exact blast is the only blast of the fight that was meant to devolve.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/High%20Evolutionary/ffgalactus5nx4.jpg
Like, for ****s sake. How is this difficult?
Not to mention that it's completely irrelevant anyway. It's not even about durability there if it hits him. It's a completely different attack.
I could see if you were arguing that he wasn't hit in the first page, but you blatantly were not. Though I have a feeling you're going to move that goalpost there.
Anyway, I shall go in farther detail about the second last panel, or bottom left panel, or whatever one makes you acknowledge it.
Galactus' arms are at his side, and his head appears to be tilted up while the previous panel shows him shooting eyeblasts straight forward. The beam is coming for his body and appears to have hit. Which we saw no evidence of any damage occurring. Which is why I think he tanked it.
Though when I have to try and prove Galactus can tank High ****ing Evolutionary from a guy who ****ing agrees that Galactus shouldn't be hurt from top tiers, then that's a pretty sad day. It really doesn't matter, just thought I'd throw that in there.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You are the one who said he took out Evolutionary effortlessly, not me. What the ****? Where are these words coming from? I never even said anything along those lines. I said Galactus tanked it, my point was never about Galactus' power.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
People he has completely tanked are... High Evolutionary...
And he did take out High Evolutionary effortlessly anyway. Him dodging a blast doesn't mean he had issues. Like, where is your reading comprehension?
Originally posted by abhilegend
You are acting like I disagree with you on that. I don't. But holding Galactus off for several pages is better than what Surfer has ever done. You do disagree with me though. Otherwise you wouldn't be arguing and trying to use it as proof. You wouldn't have brought it up when your initial point was how Surfer couldn't hurt him.
And I just showed Surfer holding Galactus off for several pages. Your response was that it was a reprint.
Just because someone did something ineffectual for a couple pages doesn't mean it has to be repeated in the exact same way to be as impressive as something that was again, ineffectual.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not everyone. I said almost everyone. And Quasar hurt him in Alpha Flight 100.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You pretty much named every top tier Galactus has fought. Only surfer has been totally ineffective against him out of those.
Which you're continuing to argue with. The only feat you accepted was Ultron. The rest you ignored. And even when given context you act like you should be able to ignore the context and continue using the feat or just make shit up. You sure do agree that Galactus shouldn't be hurt by top tiers. Sure do.
Anyway, like I said, there was a lot of context to Alpha Flight 100. Which I said a lot. So it's funny you use it. Might as well start saying that Superman getting effected by kryptonite and red sun at the same time is an accurate measure.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/Alpha_Flight_v1_100_19.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/Alpha_Flight_v1_100_28.jpg
Also, Quasar wasn't even shown to hurt him on his own anyway. It was shown that Galactus was hurt when Quasar, and a couple attacked him, but considering Guardian was among those others, and Guardian single handily knocked out Galactus... yeah, let's attribute that to Quasar.
Also, a scene in which Guardian - who if you're calling Terrax a pussy, than I can't imagine what you think of Guardian - knocked out Galactus is likely the best thing to use as evidence.
Originally posted by abhilegend You know that's a reprint of FF 50, right? What does it matter? Are you just replying to make it look like you're making a case?
Are you really arguing with a filename right now? And that reprint is of better quality anyway than the original.
But anyway, I do know that, because I said it:
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Surfer did the best against Galactus in their initial appearances.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really. Galactus was totally unfazed by Surfer's attack, Quasar was actually matching eyeblasts from an angry Galactus. All Quasar was doing was shielding himself. He wasn't matching his eyeblasts. His shields were for whatever reason holding out against Galactus' eyeblasts.
And even so, Surfer trapped Galactus' entire body for a whole page anyway. Are Galactus' eyeblasts as powerful as his entire body?
Like I said, both accomplished nothing. It's a game of semantics that you're playing here. Especially when your point shifted from hurting Galactus to apparently thinking that Quasar being equal to Galactus is relevant. You're just trying to bring up random "low showings" to try and prove your point via very rough connection.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And BRB. And Hercules in Alpha Flight. Or Black Bolt. Or Dr. Strange. Like I said about BRB, all he did is crack Galactus' armor.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/stormbreaker0118hn9.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/stormbreaker0119pn6.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/stormbreaker0120md2.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/Statements%20of%20power/stormbreaker0213rh3.jpg
You might as well be arguing that Thor's chainmail getting damaged is some serious shit.
Already covered Alpha Flight, and it's not like it really did anything anyway.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/Alpha_Flight_v1_100_25.jpg
Which is probably worse considering Galactus was operating at such a low level and Herc can barely do anything.
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about with Black Bolt. I am pretty sure you made that up.
And Dr Strange. All he did was knock Galactus off balance. In fact it states it.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Dr%20Strange/galactusvsdrstrange5cb5.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Dr%20Strange/galactusvsdrstrange6mi4.jpg
Impressive feat, but it accomplished nothing. No more than Thing tripping him anyway. Which I suppose is another knock towards Surfer somehow?
Originally posted by abhilegend
I agree that no top tier should be able to harm him. But the facts are facts.
What facts are those? Twisting things? Ignoring things? I gave you a big list of things that he tanked and you ignored them and tried to downplay their impressiveness. But you sure do agree. Hell, you just made up Black Bolt hurting him, so yeah, good job using those facts to come to an unbiased decision.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You know it was a danger to omniverse due to its nature and not from any power levels, right? It doesn't matter. Everyone there was super powered to some degree. Even Hulk took a big punch from Captain Britain and only cried because he actually had a baby's brain.
Hell, this was their Goliath:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Stuff/Excalibur%20014-013.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Stuff/Excalibur%20014-014.jpg
Whether they were 616 level or not, there were hundreds maybe thousands of beings attacking Galactus there, and he didn't bat an eye.
Like I said, pretty much just Thor hurts Galactus. Surfer not doing anything is a meaningless thing to point out and smells of hate for both Surfer/Galactus.
Thor has hurt Galactus twice. Thor has failed to hurt Galactus twice. Three times if you count nothing he did being accomplished against Galactus in the first fight of The Devourer.
Alpha Flight was his powers not working.
Dr Strange wasn't shown to hurt him. Even if he was, that's 2.
Beta Ray Bill only damaged his armor.
Black Bolt is... not entirely sure what you're talking about.
And that's what you base pretty much every top tier hurting him on. 4-5 examples. What about the laundry list I gave you?Doesn't count I guess.