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Ben has a form that can set off nukes like nothing named Atomix.

He also can turn into Alien X who can warp reality.

Mercer dies easily.

But he can't control Alien X :/

Also, when has Atomix shown nuke-spawning to be a thing, maybe explosions, but not a nuke.

Or, maybe a very miniscule nuke...

Originally posted by Jmanghan
But he can't control Alien X :/

He can control Alien X. As of "Universe vs. Tennyson", he made a deal with Serena and Bellicus that gave him full control of Alien X so those two could argue for eternity. Then he whooped on Galactic Gladiator, a full Celestialsapien who had eons more experience with his powers and abilities as well as his two consciousness being in full sync. Which shows Ben's skill.

And Atomix can let off nukes. Or at least powerful enough atomic explosions to kill Mercer or leave him unable to fight.

Alien X is able to take universe busters like nothing and recreated a universe with nothing but a thought.

Ben stomps so hard it's not even funny.

Originally posted by trexalfa
Alien X is able to take universe busters like nothing and recreated a universe with nothing but a thought.

Ben stomps so hard it's not even funny. So, Alien X > Galactus?

Originally posted by Jmanghan
So, Alien X > Galactus?

Where the flying **** did you get that? Of course Galactus is stronger than Alien X.

"Universe Busters like nothing" is a bit above that...

Originally posted by Jmanghan
"Universe Busters like nothing" is a bit above that...

Ultimate Nullifier anyone? It can destroy multiverses like nothing, and its an aspect of Galactus' own being.

Plus at full power, he is equal to Eternity. Who is certainly so above universe busters it's not even funny like, multiple levels of infinity above.

Galactus at full strength is so powerful he's destined to see the death of the current universe and survive into the next. Also he was once offered a position as Living Tribunal's fourth face iirc.

We also need to take into account that the Marvel Universe >>>>>> Ben 10 Universe.

Celestialsapien's and that race that evolved beyond the 3rd dimension are the big dogs in that medium. But there's tons of people in Marvel who outclass them and they aren't even in the top tier in the Marvel U.

Yeah Ben Ten universe hasn't tried to write its dick larger than everyone else's yet.