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Who wins ?

Beerus just destroyed a sun with a casual blast and is and undefined solar system buster. Beerus destroyed multiple planets with his fist in a second. Yes, he wins this.

While Deathtry is really powerful, it's important to remember that DB characters still operate on higher power levels. Speed beyond comprehension, unmeasurable power output... and all that before Bills appeared.

Lol

umm

Originally posted by carver9
Beerus just destroyed a sun with a casual blast and is and undefined solar system buster. Beerus destroyed multiple planets with his fist in a second. Yes, he wins this.

Those were not planets they were small moons around his sanctualy

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
While Deathtry is really powerful, it's important to remember that DB characters still operate on higher power levels. Speed beyond comprehension, unmeasurable power output... and all that before Bills appeared.

Yes but how does Beerus put him down ? Sentry so far has been shown to regenerate from anything even Thor smashing his brain.. DSS's punches shook a planet when he punched Thor, and he lifted Exitar who is as large as the Earth and moved his body into deep space

Disintegration.

And if that does not do the trick, then at least it should suffice for a forum win.

Originally posted by TheClassicIon
Those were not planets they were small moons around his sanctualy No he destroyed two suns also this thread is invalid so who cares.

Originally posted by iceman24567
No he destroyed two suns also this thread is invalid so who cares.

Hmm Sentry has survived in the sun, something which Saiyans can't and I doubt Beerus can, so D Sentry's durability should be higher than theirs, he also has telepathy to use on Beerus

Originally posted by carver9
Beerus just destroyed a sun with a casual blast and is and undefined solar system buster. Beerus destroyed multiple planets with his fist in a second. Yes, he wins this.

When did he destroy a sun?

Originally posted by TheClassicIon
Hmm Sentry has survived in the sun, something which Saiyans can't and I doubt Beerus can, so D Sentry's durability should be higher than theirs, he also has telepathy to use on Beerus So the god of destruction a being that is virtually immortal has similar physiology as Saiyan? I dont get it stop while your ahead

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
When did he destroy a sun? It was two suns i told you the manga shows what happens right before the film.

*Gets ready to fight Sentry*

*Sees Thor beating on Sentry. Sees Sentry looking bored. Notices planets collapsing in the distance, without anyone shooting blasts at them.*

*Flies back to homeworld for pudding and a nap.*

Originally posted by iceman24567
It was two suns i told you the manga shows what happens right before the film.

My bad I just woke up still drinking coffee.

DS spitestomps.

Bills humiliated Goku... Gotenks... Mystic Gohan... Berserker Rage Vegeta...

Godly ki is just too much.

Originally posted by iceman24567
So the god of destruction a being that is virtually immortal has similar physiology as Saiyan? I dont get it stop while your ahead

Well the Saiyans can and have hurt him Vegeta drew blood from him and Goku etc...Proof Beerus can survive in the sun ? if not then durability goes to Sentry

Originally posted by TheClassicIon
Vegeta drew blood from him

Vegeta that suprassed the power level of SSJ3 Goku.

Originally posted by TheClassicIon
Well the Saiyans can and have hurt him Vegeta drew blood from him and Goku etc...Proof Beerus can survive in the sun ? if not then durability goes to Sentry Dont care who wins but its obvious that compared to other beings Namekians, Frost Demons and gods Saiyans have shit physiology aside from a perk or two.

IIRC, No one in DBZ verse has ever been Sun proof. In fact, many people have died being tossed into a sun.

Yeah, but didn't most of it happen in non-canon movies or GT?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, but didn't most of it happen in non-canon movies or GT? Yeah. I can only remember one time when it didnt happen in non-canon movies or GT

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, but didn't most of it happen in non-canon movies or GT?

Yea but who on earth could survive a sun. Only person I can think of is Brolly with his barrier.

Its most certain that Saiyans and most dbz guys can't survive in the sun

Sentry stomps hard.

Db characters are overrated. None have ever moved anywhere near lightspeed, none could survive a planetary explosion except insane regenerators like buu and cell they most definitely cant survive in the sun

Originally posted by Terryc250
Sentry stomps hard.

Db characters are overrated. None have ever moved anywhere near lightspeed, none could survive a planetary explosion except insane regenerators like buu and cell they most definitely cant survive in the sun
You just seem like a hater

Originally posted by Terryc250
Sentry stomps hard.

Db characters are overrated. None have ever moved anywhere near lightspeed, none could survive a planetary explosion except insane regenerators like buu and cell they most definitely cant survive in the sun

So Saiyan Saga Vegeta can kill Super Saiyan 2 Goku?

Saiyan saga Vegeta threatened to destroy earth he never actually did plus galick gun sucks

No.. he said that so goku would take the beam head on which he assumed would kill him and do a namekesque scenario which would allow him to fly off

Originally posted by iceman24567
Saiyan saga Vegeta threatened to destroy earth he never actually did plus galick gun sucks

Wonder why he didn't do it? It was a planet buster though. This shouldn't even be debated against when you have people like Roshi and Piccolo at a power level of 300 casually destroy the moon without effort.

Originally posted by Terryc250
No.. he said that so goku would take the beam head on which he assumed would kill him and do a namekesque scenario which would allow him to fly off

Huh? Goku can read power levels and he knew it was a planet buster. This doesn't make sense. There's no tricking a DBZ character when it comes to the power of a blast.

Originally posted by carver9
Wonder why he didn't do it? It was a planet buster though. This shouldn't even be debated against when you have people like Roshi and Piccolo at a power level of 300 casually destroy the moon without effort. It can be debated and has. DBZ has been inconsistent since day 1. Feats are only feats if they actually happen genius.

Skip forward to the Namekian Saga and characters 400 times more powerful than Saiyan Saga Vegeta and Freiza fails to 1 shot Namek and the planet only dies because of the damage done to the planets core. Either way this is not in the proper forum.

Originally posted by carver9
Huh? Goku can read power levels and he knew it was a planet buster. This doesn't make sense. There's no tricking a DBZ character when it comes to the power of a blast.

No one said it wasnt a planet buster but it obviousl wasnt an insta gib planet buster. Vegeta isnt suicidal. He would have time to get on his space pod and leave before the planet explodes

Originally posted by Terryc250
No one said it wasnt a planet buster but it obviousl wasnt an insta gib planet buster. Vegeta isnt suicidal. He would have time to get on his space pod and leave before the planet explodes LOL you serious hes actually committed suicide before also his pride >>>> his life.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Sentry stomps hard.

Db characters are overrated. None have ever moved anywhere near lightspeed, none could survive a planetary explosion except insane regenerators like buu and cell they most definitely cant survive in the sun Freiza survived a planetary explosion while he was severely weakened and quarter of a body.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Freiza survived a planetary explosion while he was severely weakened and quarter of a body.

In toei's anime yes. In the actual dragonball series he was never in the planets explosion

Originally posted by iceman24567
It can be debated and has. DBZ has been inconsistent since day 1. Feats are only feats if they actually happen genius.

Lol...comics is inconsistent if you are basing anything off of collateral damage. Looking at collateral damage (which you are), Galactus during a brutal fight isn't a city buster. That's why Akira made power levels. Made things so much easier for us to understand.

Originally posted by Terryc250
No one said it wasnt a planet buster but it obviousl wasnt an insta gib planet buster. Vegeta isnt suicidal. He would have time to get on his space pod and leave before the planet explodes

Lol...Vegeta is suicidal though. If he is losing he is.

Originally posted by iceman24567
LOL you serious hes actually committed suicide before also his pride >>>> his life.

That was a different vegeta he did it to protect his family because it was his fault that buu was alive. It wasnt just about his pride it was him sacrificing his life for the ones he loved.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...comics is inconsistent if you are basing anything off of collateral damage. Looking at collateral damage (which you are), Galactus during a brutal fight isn't a city buster. That's why Akira made power levels. Made things so much easier for us to understand. Nope you are wrong (as usual) the power levels are also inconsistent to an extent.

Originally posted by Terryc250
None have ever moved anywhere near lightspeed

LOL.

Goku as a child in dragonball had light speed, that's canon, bruh.

Originally posted by Terryc250
That was a different vegeta he did it to protect his family because it was his fault that buu was alive. It wasnt just about his pride it was him sacrificing his life for the ones he loved. Him claiming he will destroy earth and himself was about his PRIDE he was suicidal which is what we are saying. So hes willing to commit suicide to protect his family and or his pride yup hes suicidal

Originally posted by Jmanghan
LOL.

Goku as a child in dragonball had light speed, that's canon, bruh. Dats more inconsistency bruh

Originally posted by iceman24567
Nope you are wrong (as usual) the power levels are also inconsistent to an extent.

SMH...what's the point?

Originally posted by Jmanghan
LOL.

Goku as a child in dragonball had light speed, that's canon, bruh.

Originally posted by carver9
Wonder why he didn't do it? It was a planet buster though. This shouldn't even be debated against when you have people like Roshi and Piccolo at a power level of 300 casually destroy the moon without effort.

This.

Seriously, this is why I count the filler with Vegeta destroying that bug planet. It wasn't anything extraordinary at his power level.

Originally posted by carver9
SMH...what's the point? Yeah act like you never heard this from somebody else before

Originally posted by iceman24567
Him claiming he will destroy earth and himself was about his PRIDE he was suicidal which is what we are saying. So hes willing to commit suicide to protect his family and or his pride yup hes suicidal

He never said he was going to kill himself. Sacrificing yourself to save ppl you love or to savr the planet doesnt necessarily make you a suicidal person. Like i wouldnt call piccolo a suicidal character for sacrificing himself to save gohan or goku sacrificing himself to stop raditz

Originally posted by Terryc250
He never said he was going to kill himself. Sacrificing yourself to save ppl you love or to savr the planet doesnt necessarily make you a suicidal person. Like i wouldnt call piccolo a suicidal character for sacrificing himself to save gohan or goku sacrificing himself to stop raditz Destroying the planet was auto suicide and he knew it not sure why you dont. So attempting suicide and actually committing it doesnt make a person suicidal? Not to mention his rant then suicide by Frieza during the Namkeian saga

Originally posted by iceman24567
Destroying the planet was auto suicide and he knew it not sure why you dont. So attempting suicide and actually committing it doesnt make a person suicidal? Not to mention his rant then suicide by Frieza during the Namkeian saga

Because its not? Why cant he just fly to his space pod and fly off before the planey explodes? Also im not sure what u mean about his rant and suicide by frieza he got beat basically to death by frieza then plwaded goku to beat frieza before frieza finished him off

Originally posted by Terryc250
Because its not? Why cant he just fly to his space pod and fly off before the planey explodes? Also im not sure what u mean about his rant and suicide by frieza he got beat basically to death by frieza then plwaded goku to beat frieza before frieza finished him off Originally posted by Terryc250
Because its not? Why cant he just fly to his space pod and fly off before the planey explodes? Also im not sure what u mean about his rant and suicide by frieza he got beat basically to death by frieza then plwaded goku to beat frieza before frieza finished him off
Yeah right fly to his pod after supposedly sending a planet destroying attack at the planet his pod is still on... Its suicidal no point nitpicking. He got beat but he died after Goku got to the battle and he was only killed because he was purposly egging Frieza on he didnt care if he lived or died at that point

Did u completely forget about the ending of the namek saga or.something? Goku went to a space pod and flew off after frieza threw a planet destroying attack at namek and goku flew off before the planet exploded..

Originally posted by Terryc250
In toei's anime yes. In the actual dragonball series he was never in the planets explosion Yes he was. It was just never shown his retrieval. Following your logic, he was never shown to be rebuilt either, so we have absolutely no idea how he came back.

Because the anime is apparently non canon based on absolutely no official sources

Originally posted by Terryc250
Did u completely forget about the ending of the namek saga or.something? Goku went to a space pod and flew off after frieza threw a planet destroying attack at namek and goku flew off before the planet exploded.. You act like it was the same instance it isnt. Frieza destabilized/damaged the core unless Vegeta meant to do that to earth the instances arent interchangeable. so yeah still suicidal

Originally posted by iceman24567
Dats more inconsistency bruh You can't argue against the comics, you idiot.

It IS canon via the manga, nothing you can say will change that. In the DB universe, Goku moved at lightspeed as a child, and got much stronger then thatas he got older.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah act like you never heard this from somebody else before

Doesn't mean that any of you are right when the only thing you are arguing is collateral damage.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
You can't argue against the comics, you idiot.

It IS canon via the manga, nothing you can say will change that. In the DB universe, Goku moved at lightspeed as a child, and got much stronger then thatas he got older.

Originally posted by iceman24567
You act like it was the same instance it isnt. Frieza destabilized/damaged the core unless Vegeta meant to do that to earth the instances arent interchangeable. so yeah still suicidal

No idea what ur talking about but frieza essentially said the exact same thing before throwing the deathball at namek, so yeah.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
You can't argue against the comics, you idiot.

It IS canon via the manga, nothing you can say will change that. In the DB universe, Goku moved at lightspeed as a child, and got much stronger then thatas he got older. You can argue against inconsistency that contradict events that happen later you dumb shit. Then again a dumb shit probably doesnt even understand such big word

Yes I can.

If it's canon, I can.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
You can't argue against the comics, you idiot.

It IS canon via the manga, nothing you can say will change that. In the DB universe, Goku moved at lightspeed as a child, and got much stronger then thatas he got older.

He never moved at lightspeed as a kid though.

Originally posted by carver9
Doesn't mean that any of you are right when the only thing you are arguing is collateral damage. Not arguing collateral damage no matter how many times you say it get off the subject its sad

Canon >inconsistency

Originally posted by Terryc250
No idea what ur talking about but frieza essentially said the exact same thing before throwing the deathball at namek, so yeah. So you think Frieza meant to only damage the core? Giving Goku a chance to leave the planet? That makes perfect sense.....

Originally posted by Terryc250
He never moved at lightspeed as a kid though.



Have you watched or read anything DBZ related. He outpaced the solar flare. Outpaced it to the point that he was even able to grab Roshi glasses and put them on before solar energy even touched him. FTL.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Canon >inconsistency Not true but continue to be wrong

Originally posted by iceman24567
Not arguing collateral damage no matter how many times you say it get off the subject its sad

What are to arguing? Tell me an inconsistent moment (watch you avoid the question).

Lasers are as fast, sometimes faster then the speed of light.

Originally posted by carver9


Have you watched or read anything DBZ related. He outpaced the solar flare. Outpaced it to the point that he was even able to grab Roshi glasses and put them on before solar energy even touched him. FTL.

Yes.. i have the entire manga and a couple of the guides. The thing is, he was offpanel the entire time, and he knew it was coming hence the "here it comes". People just assume he stood still the entire timw he was offpanel and only started moving once the light started shining towards him. U do know that vegeta in namek saga couldnt dodge solar flare nor could frieza. Also if he was light speed as a kid he could exert that speed for literally a couple seconds and he would clear snakeway. Instead he took months as an adult

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Lasers are as fast, sometimes faster then the speed of light. Yeah was just going to post that

Originally posted by iceman24567
Not true but continue to be wrong So, you'd argue against Akira Toriyama on stuff from his own series.

If he said "No, you're wrong, Goku is lightspeed."

You'd be like "Nope."

This reminds me of that scene from Family Guy when they did the stubborn mule and he kept saying "NOPE, KEVIN BACON WASN'T IN FOOTLOOSE!"

Originally posted by Terryc250
Yes.. i have the entire manga and a couple of the guides. The thing is, he was offpanel the entire time, and he knew it was coming hence the "here it comes". People just assume he stood still the entire timw he was offpanel and only started moving once the light started shining towards him. U do know that vegeta in namek saga couldnt dodge solar flare nor could frieza. Also if he was light speed as a kid he could exert that speed for literally a couple seconds and he would clear snakeway. Instead he took months as an adult

Didn't Toriyama make Snake Way like ****huge in comparison to the universe?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114806/3071864-4570558871-landm.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
What are to arguing? Tell me an inconsistent moment (watch you avoid the question). Nice job trolling (which is a bad habit you have) the very instance you are cheer leading (another bad habit you have) since we havent seen any DBz characters go lightspeed even though they are way beyond baby Goku. Not to mention the fact that planet Vegeta was supposedly destroyed by its guardian and Vegeta claiming to be the STRONGEST warrior in the universe it goes on forever and you should know this by know or you are just trolling ( as usual)

Oh, and last but not least.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Yes.. i have the entire manga and a couple of the guides. The thing is, he was offpanel the entire time, and he knew it was coming hence the "here it comes". People just assume he stood still the entire timw he was offpanel and only started moving once the light started shining towards him. U do know that vegeta in namek saga couldnt dodge solar flare nor could frieza. Also if he was light speed as a kid he could exert that speed for literally a couple seconds and he would clear snakeway. Instead he took months as an adult

Nothing was shown of him predicting anything. Especially when we see Tien looking right at him. You even state that the light was coming at him. Let's not make up things here.

Vegeta in the Namek saga wasn't aware of the attack. He didn't know the purpose of said attack so why dodge something from someone inferior. Frieza didn't dodge Goku Kamehameha times 20 either even though he seen it coming from a mile away. Goku knew of said attack and had to outpace it before it tagged him.

Was something said of Goku supposedly rushing to King Ki place? Scans please. From King Ki place, he didn't exert to much energy so that he can fight the Saiyans. Also, DBZ reflexes>>>>>>Flight speed.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
So, you'd argue against Akira Toriyama on stuff from his own series.

If he said "No, you're wrong, Goku is lightspeed."

You'd be like "Nope."

This reminds me of that scene from Family Guy when they did the stubborn mule and he kept saying "NOPE, KEVIN BACON WASN'T IN FOOTLOOSE!" Akira even admitted that he made various mistakes which is one of the reason he gave us power levels. You remind me of the shit i just left in my toilet completely ****ing useless.

Sentry wins.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Oh, and last but not least. Nice more hyperbole even though we know for sure Frieza and merged Piccolo are way faster than him good job showing more inconsistentcy

Originally posted by iceman24567
Nice job trolling (which is a bad habit you have) the very instance you are cheer leading (another bad habit you have) since we havent seen any DBz characters go lightspeed even though they are way beyond baby Goku. Not to mention the fact that planet Vegeta was supposedly destroyed by its guardian and Vegeta claiming to be the STRONGEST warrior in the universe it goes on forever and you should know this by know or you are just trolling ( as usual)

What...in...the...hell.

Originally posted by carver9


Have you watched or read anything DBZ related. He outpaced the solar flare. Outpaced it to the point that he was even able to grab Roshi glasses and put them on before solar energy even touched him. FTL. Do you know how fast that would make Son Goku from that shittyass god movie?


how is something like that something you can even argue for when it makes little sense?

Originally posted by carver9
Nothing was shown of him predicting anything. Especially when we see Tien looking right at him. You even state that the light was coming at him. Let's not make up things here.

Vegeta in the Namek saga wasn't aware of the attack. He didn't know the purpose of said attack so why dodge something from someone inferior. Frieza didn't dodge Goku Kamehameha times 20 either even though he seen it coming from a mile away. Goku knew of said attack and had to outpace it before it tagged him.

Was something said of Goku supposedly rushing to King Ki place? Scans please. From King Ki place, he didn't exert to much energy so that he can fight the Saiyans. Also, DBZ reflexes>>>>>>Flight speed.

I even gave you a quote from the panel that shows him knowing it was coming. i said its the db fans who just assume goku stood completely still and started only moving once the light started emitting towards him (which is silly since he knew it was coming before hand). Lets not be in denial here.

He knew the saiyans were coming.. he shit his pants when he learned snakeway was 1 million km. 1 million km is literally nothing at all for someone who could move at lightspeed. Why the hell woulf he take months to clear snakeway when he knows the saiyans were arriving soon?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Do you know how fast that would make Son Goku from that shittyass god movie?


how is something like that something you can even argue for when it makes little sense? Which is my point. They are choosing to be ignorant which is why i hate these manga/anime vs threads

Here is Goku clearly dodging a laser, laser's are just as fast if not faster then light, as in REAL LIFE, a laser has broken the records of lightspeed.

Spiderman is faster than light.

Again, dodging a laser a second time.

Originally posted by Mindset
Spiderman is faster than light. Gambit too dat cajun be dodging bro

How do u know theyre not beams? Plus, dodging something doesnt make u as fast as it. Spiderman has dodged lasers countless times, same with captain america, batman, hell, gambit has.

Originally posted by Terryc250
How do u know theyre not beams? Plus, dodging something doesnt make u as fast as it. Spiderman has dodged lasers countless times, same with captain america, batman, hell, gambit has. Laser beams.

Prove theyre actually lasers.

Lasers are mechanical, while in DB Beams are created from Ki.

When Krillin and Gohan are on the trip to Namek, they are shot by hand lasers, which are Mechanical.

Also, proof?

SPECIAL BEAM CANNON

Not that it matters, beams are pretty much just as fast as lasers.

Spiderman is faster than Goku.

Unbiased Beerus stats:

- Casual multi star destroyer at least
- FTL (him destroying casually two suns while half asleep is an example of this)
- Physical strength (it is very high it's obvious, since in DBZ higher is your BP higher are all your stats): he destroyed casually many planetoids by flying through them at FTL speed (you can see his speed is the same of Whis' when they left their temple in order to reach King Kai's planet at the beginning of BoG).

We don't konw if, like Whis, he possesses some kind of space and reality manipulaton abilities though.


Now, regarding Death Seed Sentry's feats I'm not quite updated: could someone enlighten me? Many thanks.

Beerus also destroyed a solar system instantly.

Beerus stomps. Goku had to combine powers with all the other saying to achieve yet another level of unprecedented power and he STILL was only at about half of beers' power level

Originally posted by Mindset
Spiderman is faster than Goku.



And Thing is also stronger than SSG Goku, physical strength that is.

Originally posted by carver9
Beerus also destroyed a solar system instantly.

No.. he didn't o_O

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Lasers are mechanical, while in DB Beams are created from Ki.

When Krillin and Gohan are on the trip to Namek, they are shot by hand lasers, which are Mechanical.

Also, proof?

SPECIAL BEAM CANNON

Not really proof at all...

Anyway, captain america, spiderman, and a ton others easily dodge lasers. It doesn't make them as fast as one. If I dodge an oncoming car does it make me as fast as cars?

Military Machine guns travel at 30km/s

http://i.imgur.com/6LMW2yJ.png

Should we say Bulma has 30km/s movement speed now?

Originally posted by Terryc250
Not really proof at all...

Anyway, captain america, spiderman, and a ton others easily dodge lasers. It doesn't make them as fast as one. If I dodge an oncoming car does it make me as fast as cars?

Military Machine guns travel at 30km/s

http://i.imgur.com/6LMW2yJ.png

Should we say Bulma has 30km/s movement speed now?
Yes please

Sentry with ease, Beerus has the same issue that all DBZ characters have, high energy output, low everything else. Before he could even unleash an energy attack Sentry can easily swoop around and break Beerus' neck.

Also at the end of BoTG after eating wasabi he destroyed small planetoids the size of King Kai's planet by flying into them. Those planets were barely bigger than he was.

Originally posted by Mindset
Spiderman is faster than Goku.

Yes, you are probably right: Spiderman is faster than chapter 1 kid Goku, maybe.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe


And Thing is also stronger than SSG Goku, physical strength that is.

When I see a shockwave from a punch of the Thing vaporize the inside of a planet millions of times more dense than Earth, then I'll say that the Thing is = to Ssj3 Goku in strength; still, the very same Ssj3 Goku got literally finger-flicked by a massively suppressed Beerus, while SsjG Goku forced Beerus to reach his 70% output in power, so Ssj3 Goku's level of strength would still be completely irrelevant to SsjG Goku's anyway.

Until then, Saiyan Saga Goku still wipes the floor with the Thing.

Originally posted by Sj_Sharp
Yes, you are probably right: Spiderman is faster than chapter 1 kid Goku, maybe.



When I see a shockwave from a punch of the Thing vaporize the inside of a planet millions of times more dense than Earth, then I'll say that the Thing is = to Ssj3 Goku in strength; still, the very same Ssj3 Goku got literally finger-flicked by a massively suppressed Beerus, while SsjG Goku forced Beerus to reach his 70% output in power, so Ssj3 Goku's level of strength would still be completely irrelevant to SsjG Goku's anyway.

Until then, Saiyan Saga Goku still wipes the floor with the Thing.

Thor did, in fact, start collapsing a planet from shockwaves. When he was wailing on Gorr, aka "God butcher". The planet wasn't right next to him either, but off in the distance.. Sentry still shrugged off Thor's attacks (Until he chose to die.)

Now, YOU tell us when anyone in DBZ showed power anywhere close to skyfather level. Dr. Steven Strange fights skyfathers for a living.. He's done insane stuff like no sell each individual gem of an Infinity Gauntlet. (And one gem is all Thanos needed against most cosmics. Like the Time Gem for Chronos, or the Power Gem vs the Celestials.)

Sentry pre Death power up was no selling Strange, Thor, and pretty much all of Earths heroes at once.

Originally posted by cdtm
Thor did, in fact, start collapsing a planet from shockwaves. When he was wailing on Gorr, aka "God butcher". The planet wasn't right next to him either, but off in the distance.. Sentry still shrugged off Thor's attacks (Until he chose to die.)

Now, YOU tell us when anyone in DBZ showed power anywhere close to skyfather level. Dr. Steven Strange fights skyfathers for a living.. He's done insane stuff like no sell each individual gem of an Infinity Gauntlet. (And one gem is all Thanos needed against most cosmics. Like the Time Gem for Chronos, or the Power Gem vs the Celestials.)

Sentry pre Death power up was no selling Strange, Thor, and pretty much all of Earths heroes at once.

Interesting, but what has this to do with what I was saying?
I was responding to obvious trolling statements about Thing and Spiderman being superior to Goku, my post had actually nothing to do with Beerus and Sentry, much less with Thor, unless Thor himself is in reality the Thing in disguise.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Not really proof at all...

Anyway, captain america, spiderman, and a ton others easily dodge lasers. It doesn't make them as fast as one. If I dodge an oncoming car does it make me as fast as cars?

Military Machine guns travel at 30km/s

http://i.imgur.com/6LMW2yJ.png

Should we say Bulma has 30km/s movement speed now?

Master Roshi has caught bullets before.

Spiderman, Captain America, etc. Aim-dodged. That is when they are aiming and dodged RIGHT before the laser went off.

When Goku dodged, the laser had clearly already fired in his direction.

Spiderman caught a bullet before.

He has also dodged a bullet after it has been fired.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Master Roshi has caught bullets before.

Spiderman, Captain America, etc. Aim-dodged. That is when they are aiming and dodged RIGHT before the laser went off.

When Goku dodged, the laser had clearly already fired in his direction.

http://i.imgur.com/x5dN2Ww.jpg

Spiderman is faster than anyone in this thread.

Originally posted by Sj_Sharp
Interesting, but what has this to do with what I was saying?
I was responding to obvious trolling statements about Thing and Spiderman being superior to Goku, my post had actually nothing to do with Beerus and Sentry, much less with Thor, unless Thor himself is in reality the Thing in disguise.

Yeah,I could see everyone trolling mindset.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah,I could see everyone trolling mindset. Que?

Originally posted by Mindset
Spiderman caught a bullet before.

The Other arc? Tracer villain or whatever his name was?

It wasn't a standard bullet, could be easily argued it was going at slower speed.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The Other arc? Tracer villain or whatever his name was?

It wasn't a standard bullet, could be easily argued it was going at slower speed. Went fast enough to pierce through his hand and shoulder without him noticing.

Fast, slow. Hard, soft. Parker gets penetrated all the time. And loves it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The Other arc? Tracer villain or whatever his name was?

It wasn't a standard bullet, could be easily argued it was going at slower speed. All bullets travel at different speeds. A 243 is going to travel at a different speed than a 9 mm. Even different grain bullets in the same calibre will travel at different speeds.

To figure it out you'd have to figure out the type of gun used and then work from there.

If Beerus wins it must mean Death Seed Sentry is a good deal weaker then normal Sentry.