Jaina and Cade vs. DoE Bane and DoE Zannah

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Stigma
Setting: Coruscant lower levels

No amp/prep time.

Who wins?

SunRazer
Jaina and Cade. They're better swordsmen, and frankly, more powerful.

Emperordmb
Bane and Zannah solidly.

Nephthys
Yeah.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by SunRazer
Jaina and Cade. They're better swordsmen, and frankly, more powerful.
Bane is the best swordsman here, but Zannah is outclassed.

Nephthys
Jaina and Cade are both easy mind-slaves tbh.

DarthAnt66
wut.

Trocity
Originally posted by SunRazer
Jaina and Cade. They're better swordsmen, and frankly, more powerful.

thumb up

Nephthys
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
wut.

Its a Yugioh reference.

carthage
Team 1 for a solid majority

Q99
Originally posted by Nephthys
Jaina and Cade are both easy mind-slaves tbh.


But neither of them are named Steve!


(Also, like, lotsa people try and control Cade, it rarely goes well ^^)

AncientPower
Originally posted by SunRazer
Jaina and Cade. They're better swordsmen, and frankly, more powerful.

Stigma
Originally posted by SunRazer
Jaina and Cade. They're better swordsmen, and frankly, more powerful.
Yeah, they seem more powerful but are they superior duelists to Bane, mmm?

Col. Valerian
Bane and Zannah. Bane's superior to both Jedi in terms of dueling skills, and if Zannah can pop up illusions whilst fighting, as Neph declared in another thread, she'd get into their heads, or at least Jaina's.

AncientPower
What dueling skills compare to being near Caedus tier? Bane doesn't have them.

Col. Valerian
It's said that Cade is near Caedus tier? Or something similar to that?

AncientPower
Jaina is nearly Caedus tier.

Col. Valerian
Oh, thought you meant Cade.

Anyways, off to bed. Will reply to whatever tomorrow. Night.

AncientPower
*tips hat*

SunRazer
Oh please, Bane's the best swordsmen here? Come on, now.

Also, lol @ Zannah taking out Jaina via Sorcery-TP.

Nephthys
Before her fight with Jacen, Jaina admits that she thinks she's inferior to the Jedi Council, Jedi Masters and even some other Knights. She's not the amazingballs fighter people think she is imo.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Oh please, Bane's the best swordsmen here? Come on, now.

Also, lol @ Zannah taking out Jaina via Sorcery-TP.

Well in technical skills I'd say he definitely is. Jaina may be more skilled in other area's. All-out though he's simply the most powerful duelist due to his sheer speed, strength and power.

As I recall we had this argument in some depth and no-one could suggest jack shit that indicated Jaina could resist her TP. In fact people were actively lying to try to give her the win.

Originally posted by Q99
But neither of them are named Steve!


(Also, like, lotsa people try and control Cade, it rarely goes well ^^)

I wasn't serious, she'll break his mind not control him.

Emperordmb
Yeah, some people were trying to argue her victory because she fought Abeloth and survived Abeloth's mental assault, which, as it turns out, never actually happened.

Stigma
Originally posted by SunRazer
Oh please, Bane's the best swordsmen here? Come on, now.

Also, lol @ Zannah taking out Jaina via Sorcery-TP.
Hmm, I'm convinced. thumb up

Bane and Zannah lose this fight.

Nephthys
How was that a convincing argument? If you're going to dump on Bane and Zannah at least be upfront about it man. This passive aggressive crap is so lame.

Col. Valerian
He's the fastest, most technically skilled and the one with more physicality. He could defeat either opponent.
And what's so implausible about Zannah's using sorcery and illusions against Jaina?

Trocity
The guy who won like 2 duels in his entire life is a better duelist than a guy who carves through hordes of sith like nothing and another who is the Sword of the Jedi and can compete with Darth Caedus?

Alllllllllllllllllllllllrighty.

Stigma
Originally posted by Nephthys
How was that a convincing argument? If you're going to dump on Bane and Zannah at least be upfront about it man. This passive aggressive crap is so lame.
SunRazer is just that charming, bro.

Nephthys
Originally posted by Trocity
The guy who won like 2 duels in his entire life is a better duelist than a guy who carves through hordes of sith like nothing and another who is the Sword of the Jedi and can compete with Darth Caedus?

Alllllllllllllllllllllllrighty.

As if Bane couldn't do both of those things.

Trocity
Team 1 has the better combative feats overall

SunRazer
Right. Because Jaina, while leaking blood from her head and being pinned to a building, decades before her prime, was still capable of using one hand to hold off Vong - who, by all means, are a challenge for Jedi. More impressively, she's beaten Tsavong Lah (the Warmaster) with her legs pinioned to the floor, again decades before her prime. She's also fought for days against Sith, killed three Sith in the time it takes Ben Skywalker to kill one, slaying three Sith Warriors on Dromund Kaas's nexus, is hyped as "the combat equal of any Jedi in the Order", etc. I think that puts her above Bane, whose only real feat is holding an edge over Kas'im.

Caedus's disadvantages against Jaina are sorely overrated, she's obviously not on his level but as close as you can get to being there.

@Neph - I've never debated Jaina vs Zannah here before, but Jaina being telepathically powerful enough to wipe memories from fellow Jedi and sending telepathic images with such power that the air itself nearly hums with energy, etc. indicates she should be able to resist Zannah's TP/Sorcery. She's gotten over the death of her brother.

carthage
She also was capable of resisting UnuTHUL's telepathic feats somewhat too iirc. The notion Zannah can "MINDRAPE" her is laughable, and its hilarious to see the Bane cult always try to use Zannah's one only real force ability even though its only hurt fodder off nexus as if its an uber threat.

There is no question Jaina would easily stomp her in a duel either, and Cade has better dueling feats than Bane as well

Q99
Originally posted by Nephthys
Before her fight with Jacen, Jaina admits that she thinks she's inferior to the Jedi Council, Jedi Masters and even some other Knights. She's not the amazingballs fighter people think she is imo.



Ahh, she says so, but her performance against Jacen surpassed Kyle Katarn's. So, yea.

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