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Who wins? Legends and Canon allowed for Vader.

Vader stomps.

Vader shits on him

Vader

When did Tython kill that Lylek? I mean what level.

How is that relevant?

Vader finds Hero's lack of faith disturbing.

Originally posted by The Merchant
When did Tython kill that Lylek? I mean what level.

Between 24-28.

Cause Vader killed a butt load of them and if Tython struggled with just one well Vader>Tython but seeing as how Tython took it on in a medium'ish level it's probably closer.

Vader killed hundreds, right? Or was that the combined kill-count of both Vader and the Emperor?

They both killed hundreds of them, each of them would kill and pulverize 3-4 of them or knock them back with one shot of telekinesis.

Vader stomped a lot of them single handedly as did Sidious, in the book the Twilek Soldiers note that they have to fortify entire cities just to fight a handful of them:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=15176745

Vader was also fast enough to react to Sidious's speed and met blades with him as well:

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt255/stevelovesmoonspell/aavadersidious.png

This thread pleases me.

Sidious and Vader are so awesome.

Hero of Tython.

Reasons covered here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=611228&pagenumber=11#post15171183

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Vader finds Hero's lack of faith disturbing.
And then looses.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Cause Vader killed a butt load of them and if Tython struggled with just one well Vader>Tython but seeing as how Tython took it on in a medium'ish level it's probably closer.
What makes you think that Hero of Tython struggled against one? He defeated many Sand Demons on Tatooine, therefore it is unlikely that he wouldn't struggle against a Lylek. Sand Demons are the most deadly predators on Tatooine, and among the deadliest predators in the galaxy.

More importantly, Hero of Tython exponentially grew in power since the events of Tatooine.

Vader destroys.

There is no way Vader is getting treated like a ***** by Revan like H.O.T.

Vader isn't stomping when weaker Jedi have given him pause in the past.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Vader destroys.

There is no way Vader is getting treated like a ***** by Revan like H.O.T.
Confrontation between powerful Force-users are unlikely to be one-sided unless disparity - in the power of the combatants involved - is massive.

Revan's ability to overwhelm Hero of Tython (HoT) with his Force abilities, is not proof of Revan's superiority over the latter. Like, if Revan can send HoT packing with a Force push, it is likely that reverse may also happen.

ANALOGY:

- Tol Braga overwhelmed HoT with a few moves but HoT emerged victorious in this confrontation.

- Son overwhelmed Father with Force Lightning in a bout. Similarly, Father send Son packing with a Force push in another bout.

That was a weakened Father, and he only hurled the Son when the latter was distracted fighting the Daughter.

I can't tell who's argument is more disgusting yours or LeGenD's.

Depends on the incarnation of Vader in terms of how bad a stomp, tbh.

Pre-ANH Vader is the strongest for canon Vader.
ROTJ Vader is the strongest for classic legends Vader.

Vader wins confortably.

Vader, lol.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Depends on the incarnation of Vader in terms of how bad a stomp, tbh.

Pre-ANH Vader is the strongest for canon Vader.
ROTJ Vader is the strongest for classic legends Vader.
It's not like Vader suddenly became weaker for the movies.

Dave Filoni says his prime was pre-ANH because Luke, tbh.

He doesn't even know who Luke is until after ANH, so that's pretty retarded, tbh.

Filoni says a lot of retarded things TBH. Like when he says Han Solo couldnt't understand Chewie. Of course, Ahsoka could...

She's pretty awesome like that.

Dave is pretty stupid sometimes, admittedly.

Eh.

The reason Vader notably improves in legends is because Galen Marek provided him a worthy sparring partner. In Canon, there is no Marek.

The argument against ROTJ Vader being prime Vader is by that time, love for his son has polluted his connection to the Dark Side...polluted it so much he eventually throws it off.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
He doesn't even know who Luke is until after ANH, so that's pretty retarded, tbh.

I think he means when he realizes he has a son it cast doubts into his decisions. Which makes a ton of sense actually, I always thought it was nonsense that in ROTS Palps says 'You killed Padme', implying he also killed his children, and when he finds out he has children he never pieced together what a lying bastard Sidious is. Luke being alive shows Vader the biggest lie Palpatine ever told him. So I can totes see that weakening his resolve.

He doesn't know he has a son until after ANH.

Vader wins after a close fight imo.

I still think theHero of Tython
when did TOR Characters get ranked so low?

The real question is what did the HoT do to earn being ranked so high? I mean besides being TK'd by Revan.

Vader edges HoT just by a bit. Would be a good fight though.

Non-Canon Darkside HoT wins though, IMO.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The real question is what did the HoT do to earn being ranked so high? I mean besides being TK'd by Revan.

Defeated Bengel Morr (with just a training sabre.)

Defeated Power Guards (stated to be strong enough to fight Jedi/Sith on equal footing.)

Defeated Sadic (who was Angral's top apprentice even before undergoing the Power Guard process.)

Defeated Darth Angral (who was Dark Council level, and this was still quite early in the HoT's career)

Defeated Scourge (a 300+ year old master duellist who had killed over 1000 Jedi and Sith that the Emperor considered a threat. Meaning he didn't just kill a bunch of wussies)

Defeated the Gormak Guardian (an avatar of Sel-Makor)

Defeated Tol Braga (who beat a Dark Counciler)

Defeated the Imperial Guard (whom even the Dark Council were scared of)

Defeated the Emperor's Voice (not at full power but still heckuva powerful).

Originally posted by Hero of Python
TheVader edges HoT just by a bit. Would be a good fight though.

I agree.