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Both in their primes, Legends/Canon feats allowed. Battle take place on Hypori. This is a TK/Force abilities match only, they're not equipped with their lightsabers.

Probably Plagueis, even disregarding the fact that Vader has little defense against FL in this scenario.

****, forgot about lightning. Let's restrict Mr. Plagueis from using it.

Plagueis shuts down his Midichlorians, tbh.

Can he do that to powerful force users?

No he did it on Ars Veruna an old senator while he was prone, lol.

I'd go with Vader in terms of telekinesis he's superior to Plagueis (blowing a hole throw durasteel, pulping Lyleks, manipulating freighters, smashing TIE fighters mid flight, collapsing Cathedrals, collapsing huge platforms, and destroying droids larger than him impress me more than Plagueis's feats.

Originally posted by carthage
No he did it on Ars Veruna an old senator while he was prone, lol.



Yeah, I really wish we saw some kind of demonstration of this technique against a force user in combat.

Originally posted by Sinious
Can he do that to powerful force users?

I don't see why he wouldn't be able to; what defense do Force Users have against it? It isn't a direct attack that can be conventionally shielded against.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I don't see why he wouldn't be able to; what defense do Force Users have against it? It isn't a direct attack that can be conventionally shielded against.

And do you think he could use it against top tier sith/jedi as well?

Who knows? What reason is there to assume he couldn't? The concept doesn't change.

The bigger question is how difficult it is to apply while in combat, tbh. But the load should certainly be lightened if lightsabers are taken out of the question, no?

I guess he could use it on force users but it probably takes some time to end them with this technique so it would easily be disrupted with a counter attack in combat.

Sidious's master wins, tbh.

Plagueis has this. Vader can't keep up.

Darth Plagueis.

It also takes a lot of concentration

Plagueis solidly.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
It also takes a lot of concentration

Stop trying to present Jensaraai speculation as fact, tbh.

And you're presenting your speculation that he can use it in a duel as fact as well so...

Anyway, Vader chokes him the **** out.

Originally posted by ares834
And you're presenting your speculation that he can use it in a duel as fact as well so...

No, I'm arguing that it's possible; there's a difference. Not to mention that this isn't even a duel.

Uhhh...

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Plagueis shuts down his Midichlorians, tbh.

Apologies if you thought I was being completely serious, there. I'm toying with the idea, though.