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Invicible shucks him like a ear of corn

Invincible. Stronger, faster, durabler.

This is exactly why people become confused and mystified, when underdogs rise above their assumed pay grade. Tony would do just fine.

If tony figures out Mark's weakness to sonics, boy is he screwed.

True. I mean, Invincible can fight through high-end sonics to an extent, but yeah... IF Tony wins, that's how he'd do it.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Invicible shucks him like a ear of corn

Invincible, for reasons already stated.

It definitely wouldn't be easy. Im has done just fine against worse.

Originally posted by Galan007
True. I mean, Invincible can fight through high-end sonics to an extent, but yeah... IF Tony wins, that's how he'd do it.

If? Tony has nearly become one with mass media. Anything seen on camera is known to him at this point. He would know, and he would use it. This is what typically goes on in these types of match ups. People first look at who is stronger, and more durable, and has more impressive powers in general, and then they make up their mind based on those factors. Intel, tech, experience, fighting ability rarely ever takes center stage above the less esoteric abilities. Tony would do fine, and possibly pull a majority IMO.

Originally posted by Stoic
If? Tony has nearly become one with mass media. Anything seen on camera is known to him at this point. He would know, and he would use it. This is what typically goes on in these types of match ups. People first look at who is stronger, and more durable, and has more impressive powers in general, and then they make up their mind based on those factors. Intel, tech, experience, fighting ability rarely ever takes center stage above the less esoteric abilities. Tony would do fine, and possibly pull a majority IMO. until this second mark has never appeared on any marvel media

So... Yeah no

If we're getting technical, Mark actually did enter the Marvel universe for a brief period for a team up with Spider-Man.

^ Yep. And the events of Marvel Team-Up #14(the crossover in question) were specifically shown again during Invincible #33:
http://i.imgur.com/H4TKOFL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/77xVVAs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dGf2zgu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/M52dsLf.jpg

Here are the corresponding pages from MTU #14:
http://i.imgur.com/DzH6FFw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oaJyqi2.jpg
...Which makes it one of the only crossovers in comics that is indisputably canon.

Regardless, I agree that Tony's access to mass media doesn't mean he'd be able to instantly know Mark's weakness, given that they hail from entirely different companies. Moreover, it certainly doesn't mean Tony would be able to approximate the specific frequency required to harm a Viltrumite on the fly, either.

I actually forgot it was a specific frequency that REALLY phucked Mark up. But I cant remember if hes show weakness to other frquencies or forms of sonics. Because of that Ill give Mark the slight majority.Mark has the strength advantage but is relatively one dimensional up against all the weapons gadgets and experience Tony has. It wouldn't be easy.

When will stark have time to play up weakness exploitation?

Tony wins.

Based on what exactly? Mark can tank the initial salvo and once it goes h2h it's downhill..what gives tony the edge especially against someone so ferocious

Originally posted by JayDaDon
I actually forgot it was a specific frequency that REALLY phucked Mark up. But I cant remember if hes show weakness to other frquencies or forms of sonics. Because of that Ill give Mark the slight majority.Mark has the strength advantage but is relatively one dimensional up against all the weapons gadgets and experience Tony has. It wouldn't be easy. Yep, that's why Rex/Robot, for example, required the panels on his armor to be set at the exact angles necessary to produce a specific tone that was deadly to Viltrumites when it was struck... Mark was able to fight through said tones, but they definitely hurt him.

Anyway, not saying Tony couldn't duplicate those sonics with a bit of prep(he obviously could), but I have my doubts that he'd have that specific sonic frequency set on his armor all the time.

I agree that it would be a good fight, though.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Based on what exactly? Mark can tank the initial salvo and once it goes h2h it's downhill..what gives tony the edge especially against someone so ferocious

This...

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/8285/worthygargoyle021.jpg

This is an auto kill.

Mark would just stand there and let Tony decapitate him with that lightsaber, iyo?

Originally posted by carver9
This...

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/8285/worthygargoyle021.jpg

This is an auto kill.

Well for starters it didn't kill grey gargoyle and secondly it depleted his systems. It's a stupid tactic carver and prone to fail

Well, there's also the fact that the lightsaber was only shown exclusively on the Bleeding Edge armor... We haven't seen it on his most recent armor.

Regardless, Mark could(and would) simply dodge it--his battle speed is quite uber. During his fight with Conquest, for example, even satellites were up to 5 minutes behind when trying to follow their movements:
http://i.imgur.com/oJ2Ozvj.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Well, there's also the fact that the lightsaber was only shown exclusively on the Bleeding Edge armor... We haven't seen it on his most recent armor.

Regardless, Mark could(and would) simply dodge it--his battle speed is quite uber. During his fight with Conquest, for example, even satellites were up to 5 minutes behind when trying to follow their movements:
http://i.imgur.com/oJ2Ozvj.jpg

Spoil sport. I was waiting to show that. No matter, tony is good but he's not at that level without prep.

Also mark isn't weak to sonics, there's a very specific wavelength that phucks with Viltrumite equilibriums, and Robot only knew this due to extensive study. There's no way Stark is going to figure that out on the fly.

When motivated, we've seen Mark literally headbutt someone into near death while he has all of his arms and legs broken. Tony doesn't want any of that shit.

^ Yeah, I mentioned the specific frequency thing.