Dark council members vs Quinlan Vos
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Total Warrior
I'm just curious to see if a jedi of Vos' skill level could beat some members of the council. This is not a gauntlet so he's healed after each fight. (I'm not sure about the order):
1 Darth Lokess
2 Darth Ravage
3 Darth Acharon
4 Darth Jadus
5 Darth Thanaton
6 Darth Baras
If he can't beat any of them, could you write the difficulty he loses to them? I'd like to know if he's far behind or only slighty weaker. However,if he's able to beat all of them, please write the name of the strongest member of the council he could defeat
Selenial
Jadus should be at the top of this gauntlet, he's easily the most powerful.
Col. Valerian
And Nox also. Don't know about the first three, but he should go down against the next two (Jadus and Thanaton) at least.
Total Warrior
Originally posted by Selenial
Jadus should be at the top of this gauntlet, he's easily the most powerful. Ok then it's:
1 Darth Lokess
2 Darth Ravage
3 Darth Acharon
4 Darth Thanaton
5 Darth Baras
6 Darth Jadus
Emperordmb
Stops at Thanaton or before (I'm admittedly not very familiar with the first 3)
Total Warrior
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
And Nox also. Don't know about the first three, but he should go down against the next two (Jadus and Thanaton) at least. Darth Lokess thought that with help of the other eleven council members she could defeat the emperor,but they were easily defeated. Darth Ravage was called " The voice of the emperor", so i guess he was an important member of the council. About Darth Acharon, i might be wrong, but i think he was defeated by HoT during the battle Corellia
Selenial
Originally posted by Total Warrior
Darth Lokess thought that with help of the other eleven council members she could defeat the emperor,but they were easily defeated. Darth Ravage was called " The voice of the emperor", so i guess he was an important member of the council. About Darth Acharon, i might be wrong, but i think he was defeated by HoT during the battle Corellia
It was a planet Arc, so your generic strike team really.
S_W_LeGenD
Quinlan Vos is punching above his weight here. Only the most powerful among the Jedi and Sith are able to contend with Dark Council members.
ILS
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Quinlan Vos is punching above his weight here. Only the most powerful among the Jedi and Sith are able to contend with Dark Council members. Feats for Lokess, Ravage and Acharon?
And that's not really true. Some non-Force users have taken on and defeated DC members.
carthage
Most of the DC guys just lack showings, given that they live in an era rife with political brown nosing and nepotism doesn't really establish a level of skill. Sure you can say "THEY WERE THE MOST POWERFUL SITH OF THEIR ERA", but thats pretty meaningless if they have no feats.
They could be 00ber but who knows
AncientPower
First three I'm not sure but I think he may well be stomped by Baras, Thanaton and Jadus tbh.
Col. Valerian
Originally posted by ILS
Feats for Lokess, Ravage and Acharon?
And that's not really true. Some non-Force users have taken on and defeated DC members.
True, but the Void, Trooper, Cipher are a couple of the most efficient non-users combatants in the entire mythos. It's not like just any non-sensitive can defeat them, in fact it's the opposite.
ILS
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
True, but the Void, Trooper, Cipher are a couple of the most efficient non-users combatants in the entire mythos. It's not like just any non-sensitive can defeat them, in fact it's the opposite. I agree, all I'm saying is it's not like there is a set tier you need to be in for taking on any DC'er. Vos could very well be up to the job depending on who it is.
The Merchant
Vos could beat Thanaton is a hard fight.
Revanchiste
Only non combative method can save him !!!
S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by The Merchant
Vos could beat Thanaton is a hard fight.
Excuse me?
Darth Thanaton would stomp him.
Lord Stark
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Quinlan Vos is punching above his weight here. Only the most powerful among the Jedi and Sith are able to contend with Dark Council members.
Only the most powerful Jedi and Sith can defeat Darth Vowrawn?
S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Only the most powerful Jedi and Sith can defeat Darth Vowrawn?
Do not forget that its DARTH Wowrawn and he is among the longest lasting members of the Dark Council in galactic history.
In documented confrontations, I recall only Lord Draahg overwhelming Vowrawn with use of Force Drain powers. And even in this case, Vowrawn managed to prevent disintegration attempt on him with his defensive abilities throughout the duration of confrontation between Draahg and Emperor's Wrath.
And keep in mind that Draahg was among the most powerful Sith of the Empire.
ILS
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Do not forget that its DARTH Wowrawn Yeah, b*tch.
Lord Stark
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Do not forget that its DARTH Wowrawn and he is among the longest lasting members of the Dark Council in galactic history.
In documented confrontations, I recall only Lord Draahg overwhelming Vowrawn with use of Force Drain powers. And even in this case, Vowrawn managed to prevent disintegration attempt on him with his defensive abilities throughout the duration of confrontation between Draahg and Emperor's Wrath.
And keep in mind that Draahg was among the most powerful Sith of the Empire.
No its Vowrawn and he almost got killed by a Bounty Hunter
Also Darth Xedrix also got stomped by Scourge. Dark Councilors are on the council by virtue of politics and intelligence not by power alone.
Meaning being on the Dark Council does not automatically make you Dooku level. Just like being on the Jedi Council doesn't make you Mace Windu level.
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Hard to speak for the first 3, but Vos definitely gets beaten down by the last 3.
S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Lord Stark
No its Vowrawn and he almost got killed by a Bounty Hunter
Also Darth Xedrix also got stomped by Scourge. Dark Councilors are on the council by virtue of politics and intelligence not by power alone.
Meaning being on the Dark Council does not automatically make you Dooku level. Just like being on the Jedi Council doesn't make you Mace Windu level.
Bounty Hunters are not to be underestimated, they rely on surprise tactics, heavy armor, and impressive firepower to level the playing field. They are bounty hunters for a reason. As an example, Jango Fett was a bounty hunter and he killed many Jedi.
Darth Xedrix got stomped due to this issue:
"Ever since I joined the Dark Council there has been animosity between us. At the time he was one of the most powerful members, yet even from the start he sensed my potential and feared it." (Darth Nyriss)
Taken from Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan
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Over the decades, the dark side has exacted too great a toll on his body. He is a hollow shell of what he once was.
Taken from Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan
Dark Council differs from Jedi High Council in the matters of positions and how they are obtained. For Dark Council, power and accomplishments are important factors to obtain a position. Even if a Sith somehow becomes a Dark Council member, he isn't going to last long if he is weak due to massive competition.
In case of the Jedi High Council, being an exemplary Jedi is more important then being a powerful Force-user to obtain a position. And Jedi High Council members don't have to worry about losing seats to competition and backstabbing. This is why some of the most powerful Jedi are not usually Jedi High Council members.
Nephthys
Any of them beat him.
Lord Stark
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Bounty Hunters are not to be underestimated, they rely on surprise tactics, heavy armor, and impressive firepower to level the playing field. They are bounty hunters for a reason. As an example, Jango Fett was a bounty hunter and he killed many Jedi.
Darth Xedrix got stomped due to this issue:
"Ever since I joined the Dark Council there has been animosity between us. At the time he was one of the most powerful members, yet even from the start he sensed my potential and feared it." (Darth Nyriss)
Taken from Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan
&
Over the decades, the dark side has exacted too great a toll on his body. He is a hollow shell of what he once was.
Taken from Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan
Dark Council differs from Jedi High Council in the matters of positions and how they are obtained. For Dark Council, power and accomplishments are important factors to obtain a position. Even if a Sith somehow becomes a Dark Council member, he isn't going to last long if he is weak due to massive competition.
In case of the Jedi High Council, being an exemplary Jedi is more important then being a powerful Force-user to obtain a position. And Jedi High Council members don't have to worry about losing seats to competition and backstabbing. This is why some of the most powerful Jedi are not usually Jedi High Council members.
And yet during the Clone Wars its blatantly stated that the Council is made up of some of the greatest blademasters in the order. Which is true.
My point isn't that Dark Council members aren't powerful only that being on the Dark Council doesn't automatically mean you are supremely powerful. There are plenty on the Council who are obviously there by virtue of political influence. I.e. Vowrawn, Xedrix. So stop wanking Councilors solely on the virtue of them being Councilors. 'Dark Council' isn't an accolade in itself.
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