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Peak incarnations, all out.

Satele costs team 2 the victory.

You think Malgus is a match for either man on Team 1 or more than?

Team 1 comfortably.

Team 2 gets shat on.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
You think Malgus is a match for either man on Team 1 or more than?

He's more skilled than Vader and Starkiller (at this point), but inferior to either in power. He could probably beat this iteration of Vader in a duel, but he's outgunned to SK in telekinesis and Vader is more than sufficient to hold him off- and Satele gets stomped by either.

Originally posted by carthage
Satele costs team 2 the victory.

Originally posted by carthage
He's more skilled than Vader and Starkiller (at this point), but inferior to either in power. He could probably beat this iteration of Vader in a duel, but he's outgunned to SK in telekinesis and Vader is more than sufficient to hold him off- and Satele gets stomped by either.
The OP says peak incarnations, so I took that as only Starkiller is from TFU2.

Oh in that case ROTJ Vader edges Malgus out in all categories , its still a decent fight though imo

So what are we thinking? SWTOR team gets stomped or beaten with moderate difficulty?

Ask Legend or Neph

Originally posted by The_Tempest
So what are we thinking? SWTOR team gets stomped or beaten with moderate difficulty?

If Satele is taken out quickly, Malgus gets stomped.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
So what are we thinking? SWTOR team gets stomped or beaten with moderate difficulty?

Yeah they get stomped. Satele gets ragdolled and then Malgus gets absolutely wrecked by the duo.

Team 1

Team 1. Also, what skill feats does Malgus have on TFU Vader tbh.

Sounds like this was a more lopsided contest than was anticipated. No one will defend SWTOR?

Satele is a weak link, yes.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Sounds like this was a more lopsided contest than was anticipated. No one will defend SWTOR?

No one dares stand before Starkiller with Satele Shan tbh.

Leneer and Zallow are all more skilled/powerful than any of the Jedi Vader fought pre-ANH.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
No one dares stand before Starkiller with Satele Shan tbh.

What if Malgus elects to take on Starkiller and peak!Satele takes on Vader?

What if Satele uses battle meditation?

You'd be overestimating Battle Meditation if you think that with it you can defeat two opponents that are stronger than you tbh.

I'd love to know how she's going to do it while simultaneously fighting two duelists that outclass her.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
You'd be overestimating Battle Meditation if you think that with it you can defeat two opponents that are stronger than you tbh.

Especially on the fly. They'd probably need some breathing room to prepare. I can't imagine Malgus can contend with Starkiller and Vader 2v1 long enough to give Satele the time she needs to make a difference.

Satele didn't need to prepare when she fought Revan.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
You'd be overestimating Battle Meditation if you think that with it you can defeat two opponents that are stronger than you tbh.

You'd be overestimating Starkiller and Vader if you think they're stronger than Malgus tbh.

Proof? She can't just sit and use it while simultaneously fighting Starkiller or Vader.

Well obviously she wouldn't be doing any fighting, Malgus would take them on solo.

Lol

Neph, you're telling me that Malgus can hold off Starkiller and Vader at the same time while Satele sits down and employs BM? mmm

I mean if they could throw bodies at them til it comes into effect, I'd understand, but if Satele sits it out to use BM, Malgus is outnumbered.

Originally posted by carthage
He's more skilled than Vader and Starkiller (at this point), but inferior to either in power. He could probably beat this iteration of Vader in a duel, but he's outgunned to SK in telekinesis and Vader is more than sufficient to hold him off- and Satele gets stomped by either.

I don't think so. Vader is definitely better at djem so and his strength is definitely better and so is his weapon. Also vader knows all seven forms to the highest degree he could attain.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well obviously she wouldn't be doing any fighting, Malgus would take them on solo.


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Your conviction is admirable Neph.

This version of Vader isn't more skilled than Malgus

She doesn't need to sit down. She didn't in the Revan fight. She can just duck behind Malgus' mammoth buttocks and pull it out while everyone is still engaging.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
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Your conviction is admirable Neph.

While enhanced by BM he should be comfortably above them. It would be like a Dooku vs Anakin and Obi-Wan scenario.

Originally posted by Nephthys
She doesn't need to sit down. She didn't in the Revan fight. She can just duck behind Malgus' mammoth buttocks and pull it out while everyone is still engaging.

And what's to stop Starkiller from using his hypersonic TK from annihilating Satele?

Originally posted by Nephthys
She doesn't need to sit down. She didn't in the Revan fight. She can just duck behind Malgus' mammoth buttocks and pull it out while everyone is still engaging.



While enhanced by BM he should be comfortably above them. It would be like a Dooku vs Anakin and Obi-Wan scenario.

No, you know what I mean, she'll be out of the fight. You think Malgus can take them both on...?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
No, you know what I mean, she'll be out of the fight. You think Malgus can take them both on...?

Enhanced by BM, isn't it possible? It is a sizeable advantage. Its not like a 1 on 2 duel is unprecedented or unwinnable. I'm merely offering the suggestion, it seems like it'd offer them more of a chance than Satele fighting.

Malgus with BM amp is soloing now? Oh lord...

Originally posted by Nephthys
She doesn't need to sit down. She didn't in the Revan fight. She can just duck behind Malgus' mammoth buttocks and pull it out while everyone is still engaging.



While enhanced by BM he should be comfortably above them. It would be like a Dooku vs Anakin and Obi-Wan scenario.


A. That didn't exactly end well for Dooku

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/4690724/dooku-death-o.gif

B. Starkiller and Vader are each at Malgus' level force wise. No way does BM grant a 200% amp. Come on now. Not to mention that Dooku vs. Anakin and Kenobi had Dooku with a Force Mastery advantage over both of them and a considerable force power advantage over one of them.

Satele is a peer to Malgus.

Originally posted by carthage
This version of Vader isn't more skilled than Malgus

This is the pinnacle of vader a lightsaber skills. This is someone who has taken each form to its highest potency. This is the same guy who has been killing Jedi for 20 years. This is the same guy who disarmed Luke literarily.

I know I thought it was TFU Vader

Malgus can take both of these guys solo. He'd be BM'ed by Satele so nothing can stop him. I'm surprised only Neph sees this.mmm

lol

No way can Malgus take on Vader and 'Killer at the same time.

Yeah, Vader would beat him on his own.

@cart, stay out of this. Let me handle this troll.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
lol

No way can Malgus take on Vader and 'Killer at the same time.
Lol indeed. Malgus amped by Satele's unparalleled BM in a very plausible scenario can take Starkiller and Vader on. His power would be supreme and he'd be a dangerous combatant to all bar Vitiate and maybe the Ones.

In his well-thought out posts, Neph provided strong arguments as to why this is a very feasible theory.

**** off PT fanboy.


You and that sock troll Gideon can play in traffic.

Originally posted by carthage
**** off PT fanboy.


You and that sock troll Gideon can play in traffic.
**** you PT hater.

Tempest Gideon is a true debater and a gentleman among these boards. Your trolling is sub-par to his.

Honestly its not and Gideon lowballing Neph's arguments while trying to bait Legend is really sad.

I'm surprised he isn't banned yet, he's such a lowlife troll that always harasses fans of TOR. He's been doing it for years and no one has stopped him. Whatever, you suck Gideon and you've been reported again

im like so pissed off right now grrrrrrr 😡

Originally posted by The_Tempest
im like so pissed off right now grrrrrrr 😡
Sorry to hear that.

Love the smiley, though.

Originally posted by Stigma
Sorry to hear that.

Love the smiley, though.

On my iPhone tbh

Hipster **** on your Iphone

Originally posted by Lord Stark
A. That didn't exactly end well for Dooku

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/4690724/dooku-death-o.gif

B. Starkiller and Vader are each at Malgus' level force wise. No way does BM grant a 200% amp. Come on now. Not to mention that Dooku vs. Anakin and Kenobi had Dooku with a Force Mastery advantage over both of them and a considerable force power advantage over one of them.

A. Because of Skywalker rage. I doubt that'll be a factor with Cripply Joe. The fires don't burn so hot no more.

B. You don't need to be 200% to be able to hang with 2 opponents. Kenobi wasn't. Ventress has fought A + O tons of times by herself. Malgus wasn't equal to both TOR protags he fought either. And my point was that battle meditation would give Malgus the Force AND Sabers advantage over both of them.

Again, I am just raising this as a suggestion and sounding it out.