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Battle takes place on neutral ground

Who wins?

Krayt. Her sorcery won't work, and he's much stronger in melee.

DMB does Zannah tear his mind apart?

Wyyrlok's sorcery is far beyond Zannah's. Just look at his duel with Andeddu. And yet, it was not enough to overwhelm Krayt.

Krayt stomps.

Krayt lols.

Krayt stomps.

Originally posted by ares834
Wyyrlok's sorcery is far beyond Zannah's. Just look at his duel with Andeddu. And yet, it was not enough to overwhelm Krayt.

No it isn't. It's just different. What makes beating Andeddu far better than anything Zannah's done?

That's illogical. Like I said they are different. Andeddu's illusions have only affected fodder. By contrast Zannah brought Bane to his knee's despite him preparing for it. Bane was able to casually brush off Kaan's influence and he was influencing potentially hundreds of Sith Lords at once. Zannah's attack is much more potent.

Also Harth wasn't very weak.

Lol isn't Neph the one always going on about how Sorcery and TP are wildly different? Why is he bringing up Kaan lmao.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Lol isn't Neph the one always going on about how Sorcery and TP are wildly different? Why is he bringing up Kaan lmao.



Double standards abound.

Before I reply, when did Andeddu kill with his illusions?

Originally posted by ares834


Double standards abound.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Before I reply, when did Andeddu kill with his illusions?

Himself. In SW legacy.

Oh, so his illusions can't actually kill anyone. That makes sense.

Since Andeddu was already dead, as Wyyrlok states "You mind forces your body to respond even though dead". Wyyrlok defeating Andeddu caused him to cease to be capable of that and return to death.

Whoops.

Krayt dismantles her impenetrable defense.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Wyyrlok defeating Andeddu caused him to cease to be capable of that and return to death.

Whoops.

Uh, what. Where does this come from? He turns the illusion against Andeddu which kills him again, this time presumably forever. That's it.

Also funny how you use what Wyyrlok says as "evidence" but ignore what Andeddu says. "What you believe to be real is what is real. Even your own death."

Another double standard. For shame.

Krayt.

Originally posted by ares834
Uh, what. Where does this come from? He turns the illusion against Andeddu which kills him again, this time presumably forever. That's it.

Also funny how you use what Wyyrlok says as "evidence" but ignore what Andeddu says. "What you believe to be real is what is real. Even your own death."

Another double standard. For shame.

Wow, Neph. Ares has you by the balls here.

Originally posted by ares834
Uh, what. Where does this come from? He turns the illusion against Andeddu which kills him again, this time presumably forever. That's it.

Also funny how you use what Wyyrlok says as "evidence" but ignore what Andeddu says. "What you believe to be real is what is real. Even your own death."

Another double standard. For shame.

The fact that Andeddu was already dead is a fact, as is directly stated. He cannot be "killed again" since he's already dead. His mind is forcing his body to respond despite that. By "killing" Andeddu mentally he stops him from forcing his body to be "alive".

What Andeddu says doesn't change anything. He's just agreeing with Wyyrlok. That the illusion only "killed" someone who is already dead means your point is worthless.

Furthermore, despite being presumably better than Andeddu at illusions, Wyrrlok in another showing uses them to make some people kill themselves. If he could just kill with illusions he wouldn't need to do that.

Thats... not really a double standard.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Wyrrlok in another showing uses them to make some people kill themselves. If he could just kill with illusions he wouldn't need to do that. That was just an "iota" of his power. Not an indication of what he could do going all out.

Originally posted by ILS
That was just an "iota" of his power. Not an indication of what he could do going all out.

And Wyyrlok's example of himself going all out is forcing someone to claw his own eyes out. Not killing someone. The fact remains that neither he nor Andeddu have killed anyone with illusions.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The fact remains that neither he nor Andeddu have killed anyone with illusions. Not that we have ever seen. Andeddu certainly suggests that causing someone to believe in their own death telepathically will cause it physically, which is what he was trying to do to Wyyrlok. It seems Wyyrlok responded by returning the favour. Whether Wyyrlok could kill with telepathy prior to meeting Andeddu is in question, but after? Seems like he picked up a new skill to me.

Wyyrlok is very impressive tbh

Krayt

We haven't seen Andeddu use any other weapons besides illusions. So unless he's never killed anyone during his legendary reign as the God King of Prakith, I'd say his illusions can kill.

........What about the Force tho? You know, like tk and lightning?

He could easily just use illusions to defeat them and then kill them in other ways. That's what Zannah does. And Wyyrlok.

That's all well and good, but there's the handy dandy fact that Andeddu actually tells us how he kills people, and that's with his mind powers.

He doesn't though. That's not what he says.