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A battle thats been going on since "classic days"!
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/59300/4116136-keeps+hman+torch's+flames+at+bay.jpg
No prep no BFR, most current UNAMPED versions.

HT destroys him.

Cyclops, too fast.

Johnny gets dropped in a split second.

Wow, two way over the top claims to start. Nooice!

Originally posted by krisblaze
Cyclops, too fast.

Johnny gets dropped in a split second.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
From my Human Torch respect thread:

1. Human Torch takes a direct hit from Terminus, a Class 100 character. In milliseconds, he makes his flame hot enough to melt the ground he is flying onto, burning his way to a underground cave. He was not knocked out through the entire ordeal.

http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=humantorchfeat11ic.gif
http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=humantorchfeat29og.gif

2. Human Torch melts the roof of Four Freedoms Plaza, stopping the movement of the Fantasticar. Reed Richards comments that there is no-one who knows the properties of fire better then Human Torch.

http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=humantorchfeat35cj.gif
http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=humantorchfeat40dy.gif

4. Melts big piece of metal in milliseconds.

http://x10.putfile.com/10/28514250248.gif

5. Creates an air-draft to lift the Fantastic Four in the air.

http://x10.putfile.com/10/28514281314.gif

6. Human Torch uses his impressive control over flame to create dozens of copies of himself to distract his enemies, controlling the copies in different ways.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28609290874.gif&s=x2

7. Human Torch is capable of breaking the speed of sound.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28609510758.gif&s=x2

9. Effortlessly dodges blasts from Annihilus's Cosmic Control Rod.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28610473530.gif&s=x2

10. Takes a hit from Annihilus (class 50) and is back fighting in five minutes with no lasting effects (he did not even broke his bones).

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28610502757.gif&s=x2

11. Reacts fast enough to melt bullets fired at him.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2535/humantorchfeat138ib.gif

Originally posted by zopzop


1 and 10 seems PIS durability or that civil war bottle smashed in his head is made out of adamantium, 7 is just useful if he wants to kaioken himself out of the battlefield, 9 is ok if Annihilus blast is just as precise as cyke's (lol no) and the rest will only work if Cyclops optic blast is meltable.

Originally posted by zopzop
HT destroys him.

http://i.imgur.com/bFhqN5Ot.jpg http://i.imgur.com/r3wgQCTt.jpg

The fight from that first scan took place mostly off panel unfortunately...

Most current non-amped versions, huh?

Basically Cyclops with malfunctioning powers. He gets stomped.

And if it were pre-AvX Cyke...

Both characters hold back a lot, but HT needs to be more careful. Scott takes this, since he has an easier time knocking out people without doing any serious harm.

How invulnerable is Torch to force beam attacks while flaming, though?
I know he's no glass cannon, as i've seen him take energy attacks that'd kill a normal human and live, though the limits of that i'm not clear on.