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Which of these peeps does just as good or better if they were put into Cap shoes? They have to either perform everything's he's done or do better than what he did during ALL of his showings including the Avengers movies and Cap movies. They lose all of their equipment and only get Cap shield for these fts. If you have the time, list the fts each would fail at if they can't succeed at Cap's accomplishments. All peeps gets a yr to practice with the shield. If Cap got hurt during one scene and the contests can prevent said thing from happening then that's all fair game.

Blade
Khan
Riddick
Wolverine (before getting Adamantium and no claws)
Cat Woman
Daredevil
V (for Vendetta)
Ozy

Go!!!

Blade is superior to Captain America, he also has the MA skill to utilize the shield better than most others.
Khan is not that good, Red Skull takes him out.
Riddick's too much of an assassin to play soldier like Cap does.
Catwoman could probably pull it off but I barely remember that movie (and I don't want to).
Daredevil is only human, albeit a very skilled one. I don't think he can defeat Skull.
V could possibly pull off some of his feats, but dies at some point.
Ozy could do it. Hell, with his intellect he could probably prevent Cap 2's plot from happening. Also, his speed coupled with the shield would be amazing.

Most of them probably die from the plane crash/decades frozen in ice.

This thread includes the time when Cap was active. No ice here or plane crash. This thread is about his rebirth on up.

You included the Cap movies, the first Cap movie took place in WWII, so that means the plane crash is in and so is that sniper that will probably kill most of the people involved as they have no feats of detecting hidden enemies.

Silent...this is my thread. No ice here. Now the Sniper is usable but that's about it. What's the context behind that scene because we know Cap is no Superman?

So you admit that they wouldn't be able to replicate all of Cap's feats, so you're just going to remove the feats that they can't match.

That's fine, if they don't have to go through the plane crash/frozen in ice, that means they are going to be around 100 by the time Avengers rolls around and thus be way to old to survive.

Yes, Silent Master, you are right. Also, all this stuff can't really happen anyways, so end thread!

Originally posted by carver9
This thread includes the time when Cap was active. No ice here or plane crash. This thread is about his rebirth on up.

Why do you hate Captain America so much, what did he ever do to you besides kicking KO'ing Hulk in Avengers Assemble?

Originally posted by carver9
Silent...this is my thread. No ice here. Now the Sniper is usable but that's about it. What's the context behind that scene because we know Cap is no Superman?

I know it's your thread and your OP states that "They have to either perform everything's he's done or do better than what he did during ALL of his showings including the Avengers movies and Cap movies." The plane crash and being frozen in ice happened in Cap's first movie, thus by your own op the people involved have to go through it.

The context is that Cap detected a sniper hidden in the trees and then took him out with a shield throw, did you not see the first Cap movie?

Originally posted by Psychotron
Blade is superior to Captain America, he also has the MA skill to utilize the shield better than most others.
Khan is not that good, Red Skull takes him out.
Riddick's too much of an assassin to play soldier like Cap does.
Catwoman could probably pull it off but I barely remember that movie (and I don't want to).
Daredevil is only human, albeit a very skilled one. I don't think he can defeat Skull.
V could possibly pull off some of his feats, but dies at some point.
Ozy could do it. Hell, with his intellect he could probably prevent Cap 2's plot from happening. Also, his speed coupled with the shield would be amazing.

Let me respond to someone who took the time to understand the thread and post a reasonable response. Thumbs up.

Originally posted by carver9
Let me respond to someone who took the time to understand the thread and post a reasonable response. Thumbs up.

So me pointing out feats from the movies that the people involved wouldn't be able to match is me not understanding the thread?

Originally posted by Silent Master
I know it's your thread and your OP states that "They have to either perform everything's he's done or do better than what he did during ALL of his showings including the Avengers movies and Cap movies." The plane crash and being frozen in ice happened in Cap's first movie, thus by your own op the people involved have to go through it.

The context is that Cap detected a sniper hidden in the trees and then took him out with a shield throw, did you not see the first Cap movie?

While Cap is ACTIVE. No ice here. Let's move on.

What if I say I did see the Cap movie, are you going to believe me? Let's not ask questions when your mind is already made up.

Originally posted by carver9
While Cap is ACTIVE. No ice here. Let's move on.

What if I say I did see the Cap movie, are you going to believe me? Let's not ask questions when your mind is already made up.

Cap was active when he was involved the plane crash which caused him to be frozen in the ice

Blade.

Kahn.

Ozy.

Movie Wolverine gets KO to easily to wear the Shield.

yeah I said it!

Cap can NEVER be replaced despite the hatred

Carver is so butt hurt about Captain America, it cannot be controlled.

Cap can NEVER be replaced despite the hatred

He fails to realize that if the people on his list aren't on the plane then Red Skull would end up bombing several US cities and would get away with the Tesseract, it also means that by the time the Avengers movies happen most of them would be old men and basically worthless.

Blade could replace him

Originally posted by juggerman
Blade could replace him

I don't think so, he would run out of serum. And he does't have whistler..here to back him up or get him out of jams with tech.

I don't see Blade replicating the feat with the motorcycle from the Age of Ultron movie. It's like in his own movies he gets nice feats, but then he gets super amped whenever he is in an Avengers film.

Carver is the biggest blade fan boy there is, it doesn't surprise me he's at the top of the list. Basically this thread is carvers list on who he thinks could replace cap, Thread could have ended at OP.

Also this thread has been done before. In this forum and CBVF.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I don't think so, he would run out of serum. And he does't have whistler..here to back him up or get him out of jams with tech.

He can make it himself. There were plenty of times he was without Whistler. And he would have all the same help Rogers had so he would be just fine in a jam

It's just too bad for carter that most of us have actually seen the movies. I mean he didn't even know about the plane or sniper scenes from the first movie.

Originally posted by juggerman
He can make it himself. There were plenty of times he was without Whistler. And he would have all the same help Rogers had so he would be just fine in a jam

He would not have enough serum. Captain never needed help getting out of a jam. Even outnumbered and gunned, he did it himself.

Blade without the Serum, wouldn't that aid in making him more powerful? The Serum controls his vampire nature.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's just too bad for carter that most of us have actually seen the movies. I mean he didn't even know about the plane or sniper scenes from the first movie.

He purposely cherry picks feats and changes OP when it doesn't go his way.

Originally posted by carver9
Blade without the Serum, wouldn't that aid in making him more powerful? The Serum controls his vampire nature.

More Proof you didn't watch the movie.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's just too bad for carter that most of us have actually seen the . I mean he didn't even know about the plane or sniper scenes from the first movie.

Do you need a shoulder?

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1270/1020645648_95cc0fd5bf.jpg

Let me know.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He would not have enough serum. Captain never needed help getting out of a jam. Even outnumbered and gunned, he did it himself.

Blade can make the serum himself and Cap has needed help from time to time just like Blade

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
More Proof you didn't watch the movie.

Lol...so I haven't seen any movies? Do I own a tv?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...so I haven't seen any movies? Do I own a tv?

You have a phone and youtube app.

If you had seen the movie you would know he would die without the serum, not make him stronger..this is first movie shit carver..

Originally posted by juggerman
Blade can make the serum himself and Cap has needed help from time to time just like Blade

Where was it stated blade has a running gear shop here where he can check in and get serum?

Yea, it's rather funny how his opening post says that they have to go through all of Cap's showings and when we points out that most wouldn't even make it through the first movie, he suddenly starts making exceptions.

Originally posted by carver9
Do you need a shoulder?

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1270/1020645648_95cc0fd5bf.jpg

So you admit that most people die trying to replicate his feats from the first movie?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You have a phone and youtube app.

If you had seen the movie you would know he would die without the serum, not make him stronger..this is first movie shit carver..

Lol...he went without the Serum in Blade 2. He had to feed off blood in order to get his strength back. Have you seen the movies? Also, can you help me buy a tv so that I can watch these movies?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So you admit that most people die trying to replicate his feats from the first movie?

I admit that you're R-Kelly lil brother and whine a lot. Stop trying to change my thread and stick by what the OP said on the previous thread. I'm not responding to any of your posts again unless it pertains to the topic at hand.

Originally posted by carver9
They have to either perform everything's he's done or do better than what he did during ALL of his showings including the Avengers movies and Cap movies.

Per your own OP, they have to go through everything Cap did, that includes the sniper scene, the plane crash and being frozen in ice for around 70 years.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Where was it stated blade has a running gear shop here where he can check in and get serum?

Seriously? He knows how to make it. There are times when Whistler is not around(End of Blade, beginning of Blade 2 and pretty much all of Blade Trinity) where Blade would have had to have made it himself or taught Daryl Dixon to make it. Plus, as per OP, he goes thru the events that Cap did meaning he has military contacts, S.H.I.E.L.D. and Tony freaking Stark that could make more and probably even better serum.

And if all else fails, he can just start drinking blood. Not like there's a short supply of that

Originally posted by juggerman
Seriously? He knows how to make it. There are times when Whistler is not around(End of Blade, beginning of Blade 2 and pretty much all of Blade Trinity) where Blade would have had to have made it himself or taught Daryl Dixon to make it. Plus, as per OP, he goes thru the events that Cap did meaning he has military contacts, S.H.I.E.L.D. and Tony freaking Stark that could make more and probably even better serum.

And if all else fails, he can just start drinking blood. Not like there's a short supply of that

Originally posted by carver9
They lose all of their equipment and only get Cap shield for these fts.

Go!!!

This thread

Originally posted by carver9
Which of these peeps does just as good or better if they were put into Cap shoes? They have to either perform everything's he's done or do better than what he did during ALL of his showings including the Avengers movies and Cap movies. They lose all of their equipment and only get Cap shield for these fts. If you have the time, list the fts each would fail at if they can't succeed at Cap's accomplishments. All peeps gets a yr to practice with the shield. If Cap got hurt during one scene and the contests can prevent said thing from happening then that's all fair game.

Blade
Khan
Riddick
Wolverine (before getting Adamantium and no claws)
Cat Woman
Daredevil
V (for Vendetta)
Ozy

Go!!! Okay without trying to break this down too much I will just jump straight to Cap's best feat which is fighting Ultron Prime for an extended period of time.

Honestly I think they, minus Blade but more on that later, fail hard at this point. Everyone minus Blade is getting wrecked by Ultron.

Now Blade lasts longer but based on his fight with Nomak he would still go down as I consider Ultron >>>>>> Nomak was. If I remember correctly Nomak was handing Blade his behind their entire fight minus a few moments here or there.

Originally posted by carver9
Do you need a shoulder?

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1270/1020645648_95cc0fd5bf.jpg

Let me know.

LMAO

blade out performs most of he feats Cap has sans a few of the high high end strength ones which I'm not sure on. The reality is, all h2h combat feats blade would outperform him. Same with Daredevil.. same with Ozy

I only see Ozy pulling it off. Blade definitely has the physical skills but I don't see his leadership capabilities.

Originally posted by carver9
Which of these peeps does just as good or better if they were put into Cap shoes? They have to either perform everything's he's done or do better than what he did during ALL of his showings including the Avengers movies and Cap movies. They lose all of their equipment and only get Cap shield for these fts. If you have the time, list the fts each would fail at if they can't succeed at Cap's accomplishments. All peeps gets a yr to practice with the shield. If Cap got hurt during one scene and the contests can prevent said thing from happening then that's all fair game.

Blade
Khan
Riddick
Wolverine (before getting Adamantium and no claws)
Cat Woman
Daredevil
V (for Vendetta)
Ozy

Go!!!

Maybe Blade

But seriously, Most of these guys will be dead with some of the stuff cap has gone through.
Would any of these guys survive being shot 4-5 times by a firearm, stabbed, and beaten in the face repeatedly by a bionic arm and survive? Even Wolverine with his healing factor would be KO'ed.
Even something simple like the airplane fall to the water with no parachute would kill or Seriously injure/KO most of these guys.
And this is not going into Cap's strength feats that im not sure any of these guys can replicate his higher end ones.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Maybe Blade

But seriously, Most of these guys will be dead with some of the stuff cap has gone through.
Would any of these guys survive being shot 4-5 times by a firearm, stabbed, and beaten in the face repeatedly by a bionic arm and survive? Even Wolverine with his healing factor would be KO'ed.
Even something simple like the airplane fall to the water with no parachute would kill or Seriously injure/KO most of these guys.
And this is not going into Cap's strength feats that im not sure any of these guys can replicate his higher end ones.

Thats why I said "If they could dodge said attack, that is in play here". They don't have to take what Cap withstood if they are capable of either outperforming him or enduring said attack.

Originally posted by carver9
Thats why I said "If they could dodge said attack, that is in play here". They don't have to take what Cap withstood if they are capable of either outperforming him or enduring said attack. I still do not see any of them doing as well against Ultron as what Cap did

I just don't get why people keep acting like he was even a threat to Ultron... Cap literally had zero chance and this was made abundantly clear

Originally posted by Time Immemorial


HE.
CAN.
MAKE.
IT.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I just don't get why people keep acting like he was even a threat to Ultron... Cap literally had zero chance and this was made abundantly clear And yet he was able to hold his own and delay Ultron which you know was his plan to let the others get the cradle.

I don't see any of the others lasting nearly as long as Cap did.

Like I said, most of them aren't even making it past the first movie, what with the sniper and plane crash.

Originally posted by Newjak
And yet he was able to hold his own and delay Ultron which you know was his plan to let the others get the cradle.

I don't see any of the others lasting nearly as long as Cap did.

Yea it was pretty clear that outside the PIS that Cap would have taken Ultron down.

He was having to deal with fighting on top a truck and all that other non sense.

In a straight up one on one without outside influences, Cap would have won.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yea it was pretty clear that outside the PIS that Cap would have taken Ultron down.

He was having to deal with fighting on top a truck and all that other non sense.

In a straight up one on one without outside influences, Cap would have won.

WTF are you talking about here? Even the most ardent Cap fans concede Cap and NO chance AT ALL against Ultron. Literally every single one of the Cap fans agree to this. Yet, you think Cap would've won if not for PIS LMAO. The only reason there WAS EVEN A FIGHT was because of PIS towards ultron not cap. To even think Cap could or should've won is ridiculous

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
WTF are you talking about here? Even the most ardent Cap fans concede Cap and NO chance AT ALL against Ultron. Literally every single one of the Cap fans agree to this. Yet, you think Cap would've won if not for PIS LMAO. The only reason there WAS EVEN A FIGHT was because of PIS towards ultron not cap. To even think Cap could or should've one is ridiculous

Shut up horse face, I wasn't talking to you. How about you quote the guy that responded to you.

Quit being a coward.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Shut up horse face, I wasn't talking to you. How about you quote the guy that responded to you.

Quit being a coward.

Not my fault you're a moron. I mean really you're dumber than quan sometimes and that is saying something. Literally every single person citing that fight notes... Cap had no chance at all. Literally every single one of them. You on the other hand are so dumb you think the only reason Cap didn't win was because of PIS LMAO. I think all the hair on your body is raising your temperature to the point where you're becoming delusional. Try shaving bud, nobody likes a bear in their house shedding. For you to call me ugly looking like you do is simply hilarious. You're atrocious. I will respond to Newjak... he's actually a good debater. I just needed to crush your argument and illustrate your stupidity for all to see.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Not my fault you're a moron. I mean really you're dumber than quan sometimes and that is saying something. Literally every single person citing that fight notes... Cap had no chance at all. Literally every single one of them. You on the other hand are so dumb you think the only reason Cap didn't win was because of PIS LMAO. I think all the hair on your body is raising your temperature to the point where you're becoming delusional. Try shaving bud, nobody likes a bear in their house shedding. For you to call me ugly looking like you do is simply hilarious. You're atrocious. I will respond to Newjak... he's actually a good debater. I just needed to crush your argument and illustrate your stupidity for all to see.

How come I don't feel crushed?

Ah see I was on vacation and didn't shave.

You know Goatee's are horribly ugly right, which you sport?

Anyways your a coward, I wasn't talking to you, keep going though.

If your looking for cheer leaders for "all to see" where are they...dumbass?

And you keep claiming I called you "ugly" can you post proof of this? I called you horse face..big difference.

Originally posted by Newjak
And yet he was able to hold his own and delay Ultron which you know was his plan to let the others get the cradle.

I don't see any of the others lasting nearly as long as Cap did.

Cap had zero chance to win that fight and you know it. PIS keeping Cap around long enough to accomplish anything is just that PIS. When somebody has a main character keep up with somebody clearly more powerful than them is PIS. Call a spade a spade. Keeping up with people superior to them is nothing new for a title character. Hardly indicative of anything really. You and I both know Cap gets curbed by Ultron 10/10 times with ease

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Cap had zero chance to win that fight and you know it. PIS keeping Cap around long enough to accomplish anything is just that PIS. When somebody has a main character keep up with somebody clearly more powerful than them is PIS. Call a spade a spade. Keeping up with people superior to them is nothing new for a title character. Hardly indicative of anything really. You and I both know Cap gets curbed by Ultron 10/10 times with ease that's your retort. Listen man regardless of whether or not you think it should happen it happened. Cap hung around with Ultron and was able to take the fight to him. Ultron definitely did not look like he was able to steam roll Cap In that fight. Cap even managed to briefly gain the upper hand of few times. And based on his feats no that scene was not a stretch for cap to do.

While I would always pick Ultron in a fight that doesn't mean what Cap was able to do was PIS automatically. Still once again no on this list would have done as well as Cap did in that fight.

They all die, WS kills them.

Especially Blade.

Guys, Blade doesn't need the serum. He could just drink Nazi/Alien/Hydra blood.

Originally posted by carver9
Let me respond to someone who took the time to understand the thread and post a reasonable response. Thumbs up.

Aw, you're too sweet.

riddick can do it but i agree his style of going about things is more assassin like

blade makes top 3 due to his strength, speen and skill and "morals" of saving people

Ozy is definitely uno number #1. his speed, interlect and strength are very good and highly capable of replicating and out performing cap's feats

What feats do they have to suggest they can survive being frozen in ice for 70 years?

He would out think the ice

OP did say this:

Originally posted by carver9
If Cap got hurt during one scene and the contests can prevent said thing from happening then that's all fair game.

So Ozy just doesn't crash cuz he handles the situation better. But then he would mad old for the rest of the films

Originally posted by juggerman
OP did say this:



So Ozy just doesn't crash cuz he handles the situation better. But then he would mad old for the rest of the films

Assuming the sniper doesn't kill him earlier in the movie, like you said he'd probably be in his nineties by the time Avengers roles around and thus be easily killed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What feats do they have to suggest they can survive being frozen in ice for 70 years?


Blade and Wolverine would definitely survive being frozen.

Wolverine would survive and win in Cap's place buit he wouldn't be as good.

Originally posted by Mindset
They all die, WS kills them.

Especially Blade.

The last sentence was right buddy... Your first failed... We all know Reed > Doom

Originally posted by Silent Master
Assuming the sniper doesn't kill him earlier in the movie, like you said he'd probably be in his nineties by the time Avengers roles around and thus be easily killed.

Silent do you honestly need to be this obtuse just for the sake of being obtuse. Being frozen in ice nor crash landing is really a feat to speak of. Its a background to his story more than anything. The OP already stated he didn't intend that particular scene to be included. Yet you're still going on and on about it. Do you honestly also think he intended the people to grow older and be 80 and 90 to replicate Cap feats? I mean is there really a need to be this obtuse? Clearly, it would be a waste of a thread to make them 70 or 80 or 90... That obviously wasn't the intention nor is it logical to assume that is how he wants this thread handled.

Surviving those are most defiantly feats, just because some people don't like it because their favorite characters wouldn't be able to replicate the feats doesn't change anything. The OP clearly stated.

Originally posted by carver9
They have to either perform everything's he's done or do better than what he did during ALL of his showings including the Avengers movies and Cap movies.

Originally posted by juggerman
Wolverine would survive and win in Cap's place buit he wouldn't be as good.

No argument here. Though Adamantium Wolverine could possibly do as good or better.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Surviving those are most defiantly feats, just because some people don't like it because their favorite characters wouldn't be able to replicate the feats doesn't change anything. The OP clearly stated.

AND??? he clarified his post and said he wasn't including the background story part. Which is logical since it's not really a feat more of a plot line of the movie and background to Cap. The reality is he clarified his OP and you're still going on and on about it. Then you go further on a silly tangent.. about how they would be 90 by the time we start looking at Cap's actually feats he was referring to. Do you really think it's not only logical for us to examine it that way but what the OP wanted? I mean really? You know it's not, so why keep going on and on about it

If he doesn't include the plane scene, then the Red Skull gets away with the cube and bombs several US cities, not to mention that without the plane scene most of the people would be too old to even try and perform any of the feats from the rest of the movies.

Why are you still going on and on about the age thing. Do you think he wanted them to be 80 or 90 trying to perform these feats? Answer the question DO YOU? Obviously not, so why are you going on and on about it. You act like you're new to these types of matches or something. We see this all the time.. This person from this story vs. that person from that story. Prime Holyfield vs. Prime Tyson. He clarified his post and that should be the end of it. Period.

I already told you, but since you seemed to skip it, I'll repost.

If he doesn't include the plane scene, then the Red Skull gets away with the cube and bombs several US cities, not to mention that without the plane scene most of the people would be too old to even try and perform any of the feats from the rest of the movies.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I already told you, but since you seemed to skip it, I'll repost.

If he doesn't include the plane scene, then the Red Skull gets away with the cube and bombs several US cities, not to mention that without the plane scene most of the people would be too old to even try and perform any of the feats from the rest of the movies.


AND??? I don't get what is so hard to understand about this. The OP didn't want them to be 90 trying to perform these feats. Why do you keep belaboring the point? Red Skull blowing up a city or not doesn't matter. Who cares if the plot would've changed some. That isn't the point of the thread. What is unclear about this?

The op states that they have to "either perform everything's he's done or do better than what he did during ALL of his showings including the Avengers movies and Cap movies." that includes the sniper scene as well as surviving the plane crash and being frozen in ice for decades.

AND??? We get your point.. Why do you keep bringing it up. The OP further clarified what he wanted and that should be the end of the discussion. yet you continue to go on and on about it. Why?

He made the change because he relaized that I was correct about most of them not surviving what Cap did in the first movie and that wasn't the answer he wanted, however he didn't think his change through because allowing them to skip the plane scene means that the people involved will be around 70 years older by the time events from the Avengers happen and that is ignoring the fact that without the plane scene the Red Skull would have escaped with the cube and bombed multiple US cities.

again AND? Who cares Silent. you already made the point.. he clarified and further clarified he didn't want them to be old as well. That is basic common sense... He doesn't need to clarify that part it should be obvious. Regardless, that doesn't explain why you keep bringing it up. He didn't want that part included which is understandable. Who cares if they could survive being in snow for years. I mean really, who cares. It's understandable he wouldn't want that included nor that he'd want them 90. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp. We get it, you made the point, he clarified.. this should be the end of it.

Everyone...the Ice scene isn't included in this thread. Please ignore Silent.

Only these 4 have a shot

Blade
Khan
Wolverine
Ozy

Since carter has already admitted that most of the people would have died in the first movie, we can move on and say that most of them wouldn't survive jumping from the plane in WS.

They all wouldn't be able to get out of the rubble after Zola blows up the secret base.

But im guessing carver will say , "thats not what i meant."
So i dont know what the fuq this thread is about

Originally posted by Silent Master
Since carter has already admitted that most of the people would have died in the first movie, we can move on and say that most of them wouldn't survive jumping from the plane in WS.

Blade, Khan and Wolverine would. Ozy, I wanna say yes but idk for sure

Originally posted by juggerman
Blade, Khan and Wolverine would. Ozy, I wanna say yes but idk for sure

With the possible exception of Khan all the ones you listed would at least be ko'd.

Originally posted by Inhuman
They all wouldn't be able to get out of the rubble after Zola blows up the secret base.

But im guessing carver will say , "thats not what i meant."
So i dont know what the fuq this thread is about

Its a thread that has been done before. OP didn't care to search for it.

Really it seems aimed at lowballing Cap's feats because Carver has argued many of these char's that would take cap in a fight, and he lost those debates..so this is "revenge."

Originally posted by Inhuman
They all wouldn't be able to get out of the rubble after Zola blows up the secret base.

But im guessing carver will say , "thats not what i meant."
So i dont know what the fuq this thread is about

They would probably get out of that situation the same way Cap did.

Most would die jumping from the plane in WS.

Originally posted by Silent Master
With the possible exception of Khan all the ones you listed would at least be ko'd.

But they would survive.

Originally posted by carver9
They would probably get out of that situation the same way Cap did.

By lifting a beam and rubble that probably weighed a few tons?

Dont think so.

Originally posted by juggerman
But they would survive.

The terms of the OP state that they have to match or exceed Cap's performance, so them being ko'd means they fail.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The terms of the OP state that they have to match or exceed Cap's performance, so them being ko'd means they fail.

Good point.

But they don't have to do it exactly like him. IOW they could defeat Bucky and not go down with the ship.

Originally posted by juggerman
Good point.

But they don't have to do it exactly like him. IOW they could defeat Bucky and not go down with the ship.

I'm talking about the start of the movie where Cap, BW and the commandos attack Batroc and the other mercs and since the OP states that they have to match or exceed his performance, that means they can't use a chute.

In Silent attempts to trash this thread because its' Carver.. he didn't read the OP thread closely. Just because they can't accomplish a particular feat doesn't mean the rest are null and void. He specifically says, list the feats they can or can't do and why. He's already acknowledged that they might not be able to accomplish some but want to know which ones they can or can't. Thus, just because they can't accomplish the ice feat.. doesn't mean we stop examining there. So not only is this crusade pointless as it defies logic and has already been clarified, but they don't have to accomplish them all in order to list what can or can't be done by each.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm talking about the start of the movie where Cap, BW and the commandos attack Batroc and the other mercs and since the OP states that they have to match or exceed his performance, that means they can't use a chute.

OOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH

Yeah that was pretty boss. Didn't Logan do it in Origins? Not sure if Blade has anything like that. Ozy doesn't

Originally posted by juggerman
OOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH

Yeah that was pretty boss. Didn't Logan do it in Origins? Not sure if Blade has anything like that. Ozy doesn't

Don't remember, the only parts of that movie I paid any attention too were the Deadpool scenes.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Don't remember, the only parts of that movie I paid any attention too were the Deadpool scenes.

Just looked it up. He was trying to get on the island to save the mutants and kill Creed. Gambit was flying the plane and he jumped out. He didn't have a gentle splash like Cap either. He was like a rocked being skipped

Originally posted by juggerman
Just looked it up. He was trying to get on the island to save the mutants and kill Creed. Gambit was flying the plane and he jumped out. He didn't have a gentle splash like Cap either. He was like a rocked being skipped

That was adamantium version though.

Right. Ok NVM

Originally posted by carver9
Blade without the Serum, wouldn't that aid in making him more powerful? The Serum controls his vampire nature.

This topic is 6 pages long so someone might of already corrected you, but this is wrong. The serum didn't weaken Blade at all, it just made it so he could live without feeding on blood.

So Blade off the serum is exactly the same, except now he eats people.

I'd say some of these guys could do some of his feats and maybe even do a few better, but none of them could replicate all of them like he did. For example, Ozy could most likely clear that elevator full of SHIELD agents without too much trouble, but I don't see him holding the weight of a car hanging over an edge, or taking the plane to ocean plunge in WS without suffering any kind of physical harm.

Originally posted by Silent Master
With the possible exception of Khan all the ones you listed would at least be ko'd.

I'm sorry, what? Blade would eat that shit for breakfast. He is >CA.

Blade currently has no feats that match or exceed the plane jump, so while some of his stats might be better than Cap's. Cap clearly has the better durability feats.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Ozy could most likely clear that elevator full of SHIELD agents without too much trouble

With the magnetic handcuff on him and then getting tazed a couple times?

Originally posted by Inhuman
With the magnetic handcuff on him and then getting tazed a couple times?

Well, going by the OP if he can avoid those things, then he doesn't need to tank them. I think Ozy is fast and skilled enough that he has a shot at avoiding the tazers etc.

But if he does get tazed, I agree that he would be f***** from that point on. That's the big issue I have with Ozy as a replacement. He has some great speed, reaction and fighting feats, but his best known durability and endurance feats are a joke compared to Cap's. Nor is his strength on Cap's level, especially after AoU. People go on about the bike toss, but if you actually do the math, holding that car hanging over the ledge (even briefly, until the bumper snapped), especially standing on level ground with nothing to brace his feet against, is an absurd strength feat.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, going by the OP if he can avoid those things, then he doesn't need to tank them. I think Ozy is fast and skilled enough that he has a shot at avoiding the tazers etc.

But if he does get tazed, I agree that he would be f***** from that point on. That's the big issue I have with Ozy as a replacement. He has some great speed, reaction and fighting feats, but his best known durability and endurance feats are a joke compared to Cap's. Nor is his strength on Cap's level, especially after AoU. People go on about the bike toss, but if you actually do the math, holding that car hanging over the ledge (even briefly, until the bumper snapped), especially standing on level ground with nothing to brace his feet against, is an absurd strength feat.

fair enough

captain feats>blade feats

Anyone who disagrees, cry me a river and build a bridge over it.

Originally posted by Inhuman
fair enough

Another thing to consider with the elevator thing is that if Cap was a psycho like Ozy, the fight would have been over MUCH quicker. As SM correctly pointed out in another thread, if Cap had gone all out, he would have sent every one of those agents flying clean out of the elevator and to their deaths, with individual hits. But he clearly reigned himself in, like he often does against regular humans. Ozy, on the other hand, would murder millions without batting an eyelash. So he would simply kill all of them the moment he saw the opening.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Blade currently has no feats that match or exceed the plane jump, so while some of his stats might be better than Cap's. Cap clearly has the better durability feats.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
captain feats>blade feats

Anyone who disagrees, cry me a river and build a bridge over it.

Blade has been smashed by Dracula into concrete with enough force to produce a shockwave and kept on fighting. You guys are delusional.

The car showing wasn't that impressive tbh.

Originally posted by carver9
The car showing wasn't that impressive tbh.

The guy bent over and grabbed the bumper of a car, briefly holding the weight of a large object that is several times his mass, under the influence of gravity, on level ground and without any way to really brace his legs (if only to simply prevent himself being yanked off the edge as well by the much heavier object).

Originally posted by carver9
The car showing wasn't that impressive tbh.

Neither was his attempt to stop the leviathan, he had the ground to help stop it, and ironman as well. And the other time, Thor had to help him.

Thor and Ironman are the only two Avengers to actually stop leviathan on there own.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Neither was his attempt to stop the leviathan, he had the ground to help stop it, and ironman as well. And the other time, Thor had to help him.

Thor and Ironman are the only two Avengers to actually stop leviathan on there own.

You forgot to mention that Hulk still needs an appointment at the dentist.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The guy bent over and grabbed the bumper of a car, briefly holding the weight of a large object that is several times his mass, under the influence of gravity, on level ground and without any way to really brace his legs (if only to simply prevent himself being yanked off the edge as well by the much heavier object).

It's just carter being carter.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The guy bent over and grabbed the bumper of a car, briefly holding the weight of a large object that is several times his mass, under the influence of gravity, on level ground and without any way to really brace his legs (if only to simply prevent himself being yanked off the edge as well by the much heavier object).

He didn't stop the car for long. It was literally a second and the car dropped.

You're just upset because most of the people on your list would be unable to match the feat.

Originally posted by carver9
He didn't stop the car for long. It was literally a second and the car dropped.

Cap seemed fully confident he could hold the car, and he was until the bumper snapped off.

Originally posted by carver9
He didn't stop the car for long. It was literally a second and the car dropped.

Just like Hulk didn't stop the leviathan on his own.

Originally posted by KingD19
Cap seemed fully confident he could hold the car, and he was until the bumper snapped off.

He didn't have a choice but to do what he did. Remember, people were in the car.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Just like Hulk didn't stop the leviathan on his own.

Stay on topic. Hulk isn't in this thread.

Originally posted by carver9
He didn't have a choice but to do what he did. Remember, people were in the car.

You fail to take into account that he was able to hold the car just fine, the car falling was due to part of it breaking off, not a lack of strength on Cap's part.

Originally posted by carver9
Stay on topic. Hulk isn't in this thread.

Im pointing out your piss poor logic.

Maybe Blade and Khan can do it. Not sure about Riddick. Ozy has the best shot.

I think Blade and Wolverine have the best shot. Wolverine mostly due to his healing factor. Kahn would be third on my list and Ozy fourth

Originally posted by Stigma
Maybe Blade and Khan can do it. Not sure about Riddick. Ozy has the best shot.

Blade would defeat Ozy tho.