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Namor


VERSUS

Thragg

TO THE DEATH

1)On Land
2)In Water

Thargg stomps, how is this even a competition?

What a horribly, horribly one-sided massacre this would be in Thragg's favour. I like Namor, but he absolutely gets his head kicked in in this fight, every day of the week. Thragg's too strong, too fast, and he is a merciless psychopath who would drop Namor, if this was written with anything like the respect Thragg deserves. Doesn't matter whether this is on land or water.
The dialogue would be cool though. For as long as it lasted (which admittedly might only be for a few seconds)

Underwater it's a good fight, but I'd still lean slightly towards Thragg.

On land Thragg would probably just punch Namor's head off.

What's Thragg done to justify such confidence in him?

Phuck B-list company characters, Namor wins.

Kirkman's characters just rip everyone to pieces, they don't hold back like Marvel/DC.

Originally posted by zopzop
What's Thragg done to justify such confidence in him?

Phuck B-list company characters, Namor wins.

B-list?? It's the Walking Dead writer.

Originally posted by cdtm
B-list?? It's the Walking Dead writer.
Yes, B-list. Ask most anyone on the street who the phuck Thragg or Battle Beast are and they'll give you blank stares.

Ask them who Spiderman, WonderWoman, Aquaman, etc.. are and they'll actually know.

it's Wolverine vs Lobo all over again...

Originally posted by zopzop
Yes, B-list. Ask most anyone on the street who the phuck Thragg or Battle Beast are and they'll give you blank stares.

Ask them who Spiderman, WonderWoman, Aquaman, etc.. are and they'll actually know.

Sure, but you said b-list "company". The Walking Dead show's basically one of the most successful comic based shows of all time at this point.. Agents of Shield, Flash, Arrow and Gotham got nothing on it.

Just because it's not DC/Marvel doesn't make it B-List.

Image comics have been extremely popular for years. Invincible, Walking Dead, Astounding Wolf-Man, etc...

Erm, Spawn? Lol.

So what tier would you place Thraag? Low, Mid, High Herald?

I personally would place him at High, based on how casually he was dealing with Omni Man and Invincible at the same time.

Edit: Invincible is a Low Herald on this site.

Omni Man was about even with the anti hero version of Supreme, for what that's worth.

Not sure if that's a canon crossover though.

He seemed pretty casual in his fight with Kid Invincible (Mark's bro), Invincible and Omni Man, when they were all fighting him, as well.

Mark let him win when they were arm-wrestling though.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yes, B-list. Ask most anyone on the street who the phuck Thragg or Battle Beast are and they'll give you blank stares.

Ask them who Spiderman, WonderWoman, Aquaman, etc.. are and they'll actually know.

Like Namor the Submariner is the hot name on everyone's lips.

I'd say this fight happened because Namor just busted Thanos' lip(broke his entire hand in the process though and got sonned one panel later)

Meanwhile, Thragg had just won a fight he had been having for days, at speeds so fast nobody could see the details, across an entire planet with an evenly matched, extremely ferocious opponent in a universe that does not shy away from gore and splatter.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Meanwhile, Thragg had just won a fight he had been having for days, at speeds so fast nobody could see the details, across an entire planet with an evenly matched, extremely ferocious opponent in a universe that does not shy away from gore and splatter.

Does anyone have this entire fight?

Originally posted by carver9
Does anyone have this entire fight?

Invincible 115 - 120. It was spread across all five issues, with lots of splash pages.

Thanks bro. About to read it now. What others do you suggest I should read?

Originally posted by carver9
Thanks bro. About to read it now. What others do you suggest I should read?

To show Thragg's abilities?

Yeah

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Like Namor the Submariner is the hot name on everyone's lips.
I promise you more people will know who Namor is as opposed to "Thragg" and "Battlebeast".

The character, Namor, has been around since the 40s (?) and had his own comic series.

Since when does public knowledge equate to quality? Invincible is easily one of the best books on the market right now. Just because some goo-back on the street doesn't know what it is, doesn't change that.

Originally posted by carver9
Yeah

Invincible 71-78 (the Vilrumnite War). I know Conquest was fighting, am hazy on Thragg, but I thought he was there too.

Invincible 90. Thragg vs Dinosaurus.

Thragg has a few short, but very dominant fights in the Viltrumite war.

Chill

Zop is just sobbing Namors unholy death here.

Originally posted by zopzop
I promise you more people will know who Namor is as opposed to "Thragg" and "Battlebeast".

The character, Namor, has been around since the 40s (?) and had his own comic series.

You said ask anyone on the street who battle beast or thragg is but if I had to bet my life on somebody random on the street knowing who namor is id be sweating just as much.

Omni-Man=Supreme. This was confirmed by their battle. This also means that Mark is roughly at that level as well.

That said, here is how casually Thragg deals with Supreme-level foes:
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221177_Invincible_076-002.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221179_Invincible_076-003.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221181_Invincible_076-004.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221184_Invincible_076-005.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221186_Invincible_076-009.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221188_Invincible_076-010.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221189_Invincible_076-011.jpg

...Which is likely why even Conquest feared him.

Additionally, his Viltrumite HF enables Thragg to continue fighting at high-intensity for DAYS, even after sustaining injuries that would kill most others.


Thragg utterly stomps Namor, lol.

Originally posted by carver9
Does anyone have this entire fight? Most of their battle took place off-panel. I posted the few segments of the battle that actually were shown here:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15228011&highlight=userid%3A98733#post15228011

Thragg kills him.

Thragg wins

After Battle Beast, the Viltrumites ganging up on him and beating him bloody looks like pis.. He could have killed then all.

Only one now who could possibly challenge him is Allen, after one or two Saiyan like zenkai boosts.

^Why? Battle Beast was never really portrayed as particularly strong relative to the other Viltrumites. This is more of a great showing for him than it is for Thragg.

Originally posted by krisblaze
^Why? Battle Beast was never really portrayed as particularly strong relative to the other Viltrumites. This is more of a great showing for him than it is for Thragg.

He tore up rank and file Viltrumites in the war. By his power set, the longer he fights, the stronger he gets.

And they fought a long, long time.

The strongest people in the series right now are Thragg, Allen, Battle Beast before his death, Omni-Man and Invincible. That three eyed alien gets an honorable mention because his gun supposedly can kill anything, although iirc he expressed doubt it'd work on someone like Thragg.

Considering each bullet travels through space forever, destroying anything in its way, I'd be surprised if it didn't work on Thragg.

I can't believe you guys read this crap.

Originally posted by Galan007
Omni-Man=Supreme. This was confirmed by their battle. This also means that Mark is roughly at that level as well.

That said, here is how casually Thragg deals with Supreme-level foes:
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221177_Invincible_076-002.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221179_Invincible_076-003.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221181_Invincible_076-004.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221184_Invincible_076-005.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221186_Invincible_076-009.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221188_Invincible_076-010.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221189_Invincible_076-011.jpg

...Which is likely why even Conquest feared him.

Additionally, his Viltrumite HF enables Thragg to continue fighting at high-intensity for DAYS, even after sustaining injuries that would kill most others.


Thragg utterly stomps Namor, lol.

Most of their battle took place off-panel. I posted the few segments of the battle that actually were shown here:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15228011&highlight=userid%3A98733#post15228011


Its going to be that much more impressive for Mark when he inevitably has to take him on solo.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I can't believe you guys read this crap.

Wrong. Nothing written by Kirkman is crap.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Its going to be that much more impressive for Mark when he inevitably has to take him on solo.

Is that before or after he marries his rapist? Cause Kirkman.

Originally posted by KingD19
That three eyed alien gets an honorable mention because his gun supposedly can kill anything, although iirc he expressed doubt it'd work on someone like Thragg. Space Racer.

His gun should absolutely be able to kill(or at the very least, severely injure) Thragg, given the statements made about it, along with its feat of blasting straight through the planet Viltrum...

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Its going to be that much more impressive for Mark when he inevitably has to take him on solo. Unless of course Thragg isn't yet fully recovered from his fight with BB when Mark fights him.

I've never really understood why Space Racer's gun would kill a Viltrumite outright. Sure, nothing can stop the bullets so it will definitely penetrate their skin, but as far as I know there's nothing different about it aside from the Juggernaut effect that the bullets have. So a fist straight through the abdomen is cool, but getting shot is a game changer? Doesn't make much sense to me.

^ His gun doesn't fire bullets, it fires beams of energy.

http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/23222165_Invincible_076-007.jpg

Hmm, I thought I remembered bullets being referenced in Nolan's journal, that detailed the items that can kill a Viltrumite. Oh well.

Originally posted by Galan007
Omni-Man=Supreme. This was confirmed by their battle. This also means that Mark is roughly at that level as well.

That said, here is how casually Thragg deals with Supreme-level foes:
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221177_Invincible_076-002.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221179_Invincible_076-003.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221181_Invincible_076-004.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221184_Invincible_076-005.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221186_Invincible_076-009.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221188_Invincible_076-010.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/23221189_Invincible_076-011.jpg

...Which is likely why even Conquest feared him.

Additionally, his Viltrumite HF enables Thragg to continue fighting at high-intensity for DAYS, even after sustaining injuries that would kill most others.


Thragg utterly stomps Namor, lol.

Most of their battle took place off-panel. I posted the few segments of the battle that actually were shown here:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15228011&highlight=userid%3A98733#post15228011

According to this evidence, Thragg is a Trans level or near Thanos level (physical) threat. Supreme is a high herald regardless of what people think. If not, Gladiator is a high meta.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Hmm, I thought I remembered bullets being referenced in Nolan's journal, that detailed the items that can kill a Viltrumite. Oh well. Even Nolan commented that it fired blasts:
http://s21.postimg.org/fsvfaip7b/image.png

Originally posted by Stoic
According to this evidence, Thragg is a Trans level or near Thanos level (physical) threat. Supreme is a high herald regardless of what people think. If not, Gladiator is a high meta. Here's the battle between Omni-Man/Supreme, if you're interested:
http://i.imgur.com/WvDlrYq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9VjWnk4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pCz29Rz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ruilv5Q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qlrMH9l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WrzLtQe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/A9Es9ht.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bLM2TjL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/15dFRNL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xkzz7WQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MPMhcs1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RM7VP2M.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jEsZ1Zf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RFsSMRP.jpg

*Note that Omni-Man regained consciousness first.

Thragg seems like he'd utterly stomp Superman.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even Nolan commented that it fired blasts:
http://s21.postimg.org/fsvfaip7b/image.png

Here's the battle between Omni-Man/Supreme, if you're interested:
http://i.imgur.com/WvDlrYq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9VjWnk4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pCz29Rz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ruilv5Q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qlrMH9l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WrzLtQe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/A9Es9ht.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bLM2TjL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/15dFRNL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xkzz7WQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MPMhcs1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RM7VP2M.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jEsZ1Zf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RFsSMRP.jpg

*Note that Omni-Man regained consciousness first.


Thanks for that. Namor gets destroyed, even though he puts up a decent fight.

It'd basically be.

"IMPERIUS REX!!! /dead"

Stop putting Namor up against Class 100 bricks with super speed.

Originally posted by Surtur
Stop putting Namor up against Class 100 bricks with super speed.

I know what you mean, but I just want to point out that Namor is also a class 100 brick with super speed

Originally posted by cdtm
B-list?? It's the Walking Dead writer.

Zop hasn't even read TWD.

Originally posted by KingD19
I'd say this fight happened because Namor just busted Thanos' lip(broke his entire hand in the process though and got sonned one panel later)

Actually, he broke his hand after the second punch. Only a few panels of the fight are shown, but Thanos said he was a worthy opponent.

Namor wins.

I've honestly never read Invincible before but based off of what you guys are posting, I seems like I would love it. What would be a good starting point for me?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Zop hasn't even read TWD.
The Telltale Games > comics or show. By far.

Season 1 is good. Season 2 can burn in hell.

Pinball games meh.

Originally posted by zopzop
The Telltale Games > comics or show. By far. Pre-Hilltop comic > Post-Hilltop comic >>> All.

Also, Namor gets eaten.

Originally posted by zopzop
The Telltale Games > comics or show. By far.

facepalm

Lol the game only served to give us a peak at the true quality the comic given. And the game was quite good.

Originally posted by deathslash
I've honestly never read Invincible before but based off of what you guys are posting, I seems like I would love it. What would be a good starting point for me?

The beginning. Invincible #1.

^ Yeah, Invincible isn't a series you can randomly jump into at any point. You need to read it from beginning-current to fully appreciate it.

Absolutely fantastic series, though. All the characters have come so far.

http://www.amazon.com/Invincible-Compendium-One-Robert-Kirkman/dp/1607064111

One of my favorite titles.

It's definitely not for everyone though. Think all the gray morality and general fuc-upedness in Walking Dead, take out the zombies and add in super heroes, and you won't be too far off.

Oh, there's compendiums like in TWD?

I'll be buying it soon.

Yeah, the compendiums are worth every red cent.

Scans of namor thanos?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Scans of namor thanos? Originally posted by Galan007
Thanos/Namor:
http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/23159711_Avengers_World_2014-_021-008.jpg http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/23159712_Avengers_World_2014-_021-009.jpg http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/23159713_Avengers_World_2014-_021-010.jpg http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/23159714_Avengers_World_2014-_021-011.jpg http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/23159716_Avengers_World_2014-_021-016.jpg

http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/23159717_Avengers_World_2014-_021-017.jpg http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/23159718_Avengers_World_2014-_021-018.jpg http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/23159719_Avengers_World_2014-_021-019.jpg http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/23159720_Avengers_World_2014-_021-020.jpg http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/23159721_Avengers_World_2014-_021-023.jpg

Namor can make Thanos bleed with a single punch, apparently...

^ That showing is pretty solid evidence that Namor and Black Bolt are in the same physical tier. Thanos treated them about the same.

Originally posted by Stoic
^ That showing is pretty solid evidence that Namor and Black Bolt are in the same physical tier. Thanos treated them about the same. But wasn't BB weakened while namor wasn't?

WTF!!! How have I never read this Thragg guy!!! Seems really cool and I may have to read it and give it a try.