Hercules -Vs- The X-Men

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Supermex
(Props to Riv)

Can Hercules wreck any of these teams in no prep no BFR battles?

Break it down however you like. Yes/No, x amount out of ten...

XMen are at power levels they were at when these teams were active.

Cls.Hercules with standard gear.

New Mutants
Members: Karma, Cannonball, Mirage, Wolfsbane, and Sunspot. Later joined by Magma, Magick, Warlock, and Cypher.

80s Excalibur
Members: Captain Britain, Meggan, Nightcrawler, Shadowcat, Phoenix (Rachel Summers.

Magneto's X Men
Members: Magneto, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Storm, Colossus, Kitty Pryde, Rogue, and Psylocke.

New X Men
Members: Cyclops, Phoenix (Jean Grey), Emma Frost, Beast, Wolverine, Xorn.

X Factor 2.0
Members: Havok, Polaris, Wolfsbane, Strong Guy, Quicksilver, and Multiple Man. Later joined by Forge, Mystique, Sabretooth, Shard, and Wild Child.

All new all different X Men
Members: Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Storm, Colossus, Sunfire, Thunderbird, and Banshee. Later joined by Phoenix (Jean Grey).

Blue & Gold X Men combined
Members (Blue): Cyclops, Beast, Wolverine, Rogue, Psylocke, and Gambit. Later joined by Jubliee.
Members (Gold): Storm, Iceman, Archangel, Jean Grey, Colossus, and Bishop. Later joined by Forge.

Outback X Men
Members: Storm, Wolverine, Havok, Colossus, Rogue, Psylocke, Dazzler, and Longshot. Later joined by Jubliee.

riv6672
New Mutants
Members: Karma, Cannonball, Mirage, Wolfsbane, and Sunspot. Later joined by Magma, Magick, Warlock, and Cypher.
Yes. 9/10. The team was woefully underpowered at this time, just learning teamwork.

80s Excalibur
Members: Captain Britain, Meggan, Nightcrawler, Shadowcat, Phoenix (Rachel Summers.
Yes. 7/10. Rachel is the biggest threat, but she cant solo Herc.

Magneto's X Men
Members: Magneto, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Storm, Colossus, Kitty Pryde, Rogue, and Psylocke.
No, not for a majority. Not with Magneto on the team.

New X Men
Members: Cyclops, Phoenix (Jean Grey), Emma Frost, Beast, Wolverine, Xorn.
Yes. 8/10. Physically this team cant compete, and Herc with standard gear means adamantine mace, which prevents psychic influences.

X Factor 2.0
Members: Havok, Polaris, Wolfsbane, Strong Guy, Quicksilver, and Multiple Man. Later joined by Forge, Mystique, Sabretooth, Shard, and Wild Child.
Yes. 7/10. Polaris, Havok, and Pietro are the biggest threats, no offense to Strong Guy. Polaris isnt Magneto, though, and Again, adamantine mace deflects energy, though Herc'd likely be able to do so himself.

All new all different X Men
Members: Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Storm, Colossus, Sunfire, Thunderbird, and Banshee. Later joined by Phoenix (Jean Grey).
Yes. 8/10. These characters hadnt hit their stride power or teamwork wise.

Blue & Gold X Men combined
Members (Blue): Cyclops, Beast, Wolverine, Rogue, Psylocke, and Gambit. Later joined by Jubliee.
Members (Gold): Storm, Iceman, Archangel, Jean Grey, Colossus, and Bishop. Later joined by Forge.
No, not for a majority by a long shot. The numbers are too great and the teamwork was excellent.

Outback X Men
Members: Storm, Wolverine, Havok, Colossus, Rogue, Psylocke, Dazzler, and Longshot. Later joined by Jubliee.
Yes, 8/10. Love this team, but they're overpowered.

Sin I AM
Lol

zopzop
These are horrific matchups for Hercules. Unlike Wonder Woman, he lacks flight, super speed, the bracers, and the lasso (his mace don't cut it and can actually be used against him, unlike the lasso).

Same as WW vs NM, if Magik/Warlock are serious about winning, he's beyond dead. Otherwise, he wins.
New Mutants
Members: Karma, Cannonball, Mirage, Wolfsbane, and Sunspot. Later joined by Magma, Magick, Warlock, and Cypher.

Either Meggan or Rachel solo. Kitty can also cause horrific damage if she wants, look at what she did to Thor when she thought he was the Juggernaut.
80s Excalibur
Members: Captain Britain, Meggan, Nightcrawler, Shadowcat, Phoenix (Rachel Summers.

Remember when I said the mace would be a liability? Here is the scenario I was talking about. Magneto tips the scales in the X-men's favor and they destroy him. His own mace would be used against him by Mags.
Magneto's X Men
Members: Magneto, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Storm, Colossus, Kitty Pryde, Rogue, and Psylocke.

Phoenix solos.
New X Men
Members: Cyclops, Phoenix (Jean Grey), Emma Frost, Beast, Wolverine, Xorn.

Herc wins a healthy majority. Polaris is no Magneto.
X Factor 2.0
Members: Havok, Polaris, Wolfsbane, Strong Guy, Quicksilver, and Multiple Man. Later joined by Forge, Mystique, Sabretooth, Shard, and Wild Child.

Phoenix solos.
All new all different X Men
Members: Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Storm, Colossus, Sunfire, Thunderbird, and Banshee. Later joined by Phoenix (Jean Grey).

He gets brutalized. Colossus and Psylocke/Jean run interference with physical and mental assaults while Rogue drains him or Wolverine guts him.
Blue & Gold X Men combined
Members (Blue): Cyclops, Beast, Wolverine, Rogue, Psylocke, and Gambit. Later joined by Jubliee.
Members (Gold): Storm, Iceman, Archangel, Jean Grey, Colossus, and Bishop. Later joined by Forge.

Again, he dies. Colossus/Pyslocke distract him with physical/mental assaults while Rogue drains or Wolverine guts.
Outback X Men
Members: Storm, Wolverine, Havok, Colossus, Rogue, Psylocke, Dazzler, and Longshot. Later joined by Jubliee.

To recap : he lacks most of the abilities (flight, the bracers, the lasso, super speed) that WW has that at least made some of these matchups competitive.

riv6672
Agree to disagree. smile

zopzop
Originally posted by riv6672
Agree to disagree. smile
cool

riv6672
My bad, i know i was supposed to overreact or something. smokin'

nwg202
Originally posted by Supermex
(Props to Riv)

Can Hercules wreck any of these teams in no prep no BFR battles?

Break it down however you like. Yes/No, x amount out of ten...

XMen are at power levels they were at when these teams were active.

Cls.Hercules with standard gear.

New Mutants
Members: Karma, Cannonball, Mirage, Wolfsbane, and Sunspot. Later joined by Magma, Magick, Warlock, and Cypher.

Magik solos. teleport into space, one-shot from the Soul Sword or teleport to Limbo where he is stomped. Warlock solos. infect with transmode virus.

80s Excalibur
Members: Captain Britain, Meggan, Nightcrawler, Shadowcat, Phoenix (Rachel Summers.

Megan solos. Rachel Solos. Kitty solos. bloodlusted Kurt solos.

Magneto's X Men
Members: Magneto, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Storm, Colossus, Kitty Pryde, Rogue, and Psylocke.

Team stomps. Wolverine guts him, Magneto beats him with his own mace, Kitty phases him to the ground, etc...

New X Men
Members: Cyclops, Phoenix (Jean Grey), Emma Frost, Beast, Wolverine, Xorn.

Jean solos

X Factor 2.0
Members: Havok, Polaris, Wolfsbane, Strong Guy, Quicksilver, and Multiple Man. Later joined by Forge, Mystique, Sabretooth, Shard, and Wild Child.

Herc might win this one.

All new all different X Men
Members: Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Storm, Colossus, Sunfire, Thunderbird, and Banshee. Later joined by Phoenix (Jean Grey).

Jean Solos.

Blue & Gold X Men combined
Members (Blue): Cyclops, Beast, Wolverine, Rogue, Psylocke, and Gambit. Later joined by Jubliee.
Members (Gold): Storm, Iceman, Archangel, Jean Grey, Colossus, and Bishop. Later joined by Forge.

Team stomps. Bobby solos.

Outback X Men
Members: Storm, Wolverine, Havok, Colossus, Rogue, Psylocke, Dazzler, and Longshot. Later joined by Jubliee.

Team wins. Rouge drains him, storm suck his air out, Daz blinds him, Logan guts him.

riv6672
I think you're putting characters at power levels they werent at during the time these teams were active...

golem370
Couldn't Havok alone take on Herc alone

nwg202
Originally posted by riv6672
I think you're putting characters at power levels they werent at during the time these teams were active...

Not really.

Meggan was able to mimic the power cosmic and Rachel was actually more powerful during the Excalibur run.

Warlock could always infect people with the transmode virus.

Magik always dumped her problems in Limbo like Legion and Amora and proceed to beat them even as a pre teen. Super strong Sy'm has been a main protagonist since she was introduced. Her Soul Sword held off Black knight, Thor and Cap at the same time and scared the hell out of Mephisto. Inferno happened during this time.

Iceman froze the water molecules of Legion in past.

Rouge was able to drain Thor even in the early days. Logan has battled Hulk ever since.

Mags was more powerful back then and broke out of Herc's bear hug.

Kurt has teleported the torsos of sentinels to disable them during the early days.

Any Phoenix should stomp on Herc. He really wouldn't stand a chance vs most of these teams if they weren't jobbing.

riv6672
Again, you seem to be picking and choosing.
Things like comparing Sentinel durability to Herc and saying any Phoenix/stomp, considering the actual PF wasnt being fully channeled/channeled at all in those versions.
All good though, we both gave our opinions by our own criteria.

juggernaut74
Logan guts him solo.

riv6672
No.

StiltmanFTW
He already did beat Herc, though. And that was without adamantium stick out tongue

riv6672
Thats fine.
Characters beat characters.
I'm just saying no to the implication i inferred from the statement above mine.

zopzop
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He already did beat Herc, though. And that was without adamantium stick out tongue
Was this Immortal Herc? If yes, what was the context behind this fight?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by zopzop
Was this Immortal Herc? If yes, what was the context behind this fight?

Yes. At least that's what majority of posters agree on.

They were forced to fight each other, like other contestants of the Contest of Champions stick out tongue Logan actually knew what was going on, but he couldn't resist as he was kept in a "perpetual berserker state".

juggernaut74
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He already did beat Herc, though. And that was without adamantium stick out tongue I believe you're right.

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