PT Jedi A-team vs. TOR Jedi A-team

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Stigma
PT Jedi team: Mace, RotS Anakin, RotS Kenobi and Koon.

TOR Jedi team: Revan, HoT, Barsen'thor and Leneer.

Setting: The Jedi Temple

All at their peak.

Who wins?

Selenial
TOR Team. I feel like Shaak Ti or a more force focused council member would fare better than Kenobi. Inferior duelists but Kenobi's lack of focus on the force would leave him weak to most of the people on the TOR team.

Revan > Windu
HOT < Skywalker
Barsen'thor > Kenobi
Leneer =< Koon

But I feel Thor would take out Kenobi before any other fight is finished, massive disparity in dueling (favoring Kenobi) and massive disparity in the force (Favoring Thor). In a fight like this however, force powers matter more.

Angelalex242
Why doesn't the PT A team include Yoda? The true A Team would replace Kenobi or Koon with him.

Also, while Yoda can take Revan, it's questionable if anyone else can.

Stigma
Originally posted by Angelalex242
Why doesn't the PT A team include Yoda? The true A Team would replace Kenobi or Koon with him.

Also, while Yoda can take Revan, it's questionable if anyone else can.
Precisely because Yoda is too OP.

Nephthys
TOR team. Everyone on there is superior to their counterpart.

carthage
PT team solidly. Plo vs. Leneer is a stalemate, but Mace would kill the Hero and. Anakin would lolstomp Barsen in a duel.

Selenial
Originally posted by carthage
PT team solidly. Plo vs. Leneer is a stalemate, but Mace would kill the Hero and. Anakin would lolstomp Barsen in a duel.

And Revan vs Kenobi? Seems to be a rather huge match-up you're forgetting.

Angelalex242
I guess he figures Revan kills Kenobi about as fast as Mace and Anakin kill their opponents. I don't think Revan can take that 2 v 1.

Trocity
TOR team, Revan MVP.

Lord Stark
Is this Jedi Revan or is this SOR Revan? Because if it's SOR PT wins because Mace's Vaapad will deliver the PT team a win. If it's Jedi Revan...the PT team loses.

Sinious
Originally posted by Nephthys
TOR team. Everyone on there is superior to their counterpart.

Stigma
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Is this Jedi Revan or is this SOR Revan? Because if it's SOR PT wins because Mace's Vaapad will deliver the PT team a win. If it's Jedi Revan...the PT team loses.
All at their peak so SoR Revan.

DarthAnt66
Mace wouldn't be amped by SoR Revan. He trained extensively in shielding his mind, thoughts, and power from outsiders, and could broadcast fake emotions to such intensity his opponents were severed from the Force.

EmperorSidious2
PT team solidly.

Nephthys
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Mace wouldn't be amped by SoR Revan. He trained extensively in shielding his mind, thoughts, and power from outsiders, and could broadcast fake emotions to such intensity his opponents were severed from the Force.

Lol.

DarthAnt66
Mace could crush Bane though, tbh.

Nephthys
He doesn't sever them from the force you plankton, he just weakens their resolve and concentration and thus their ability to wield the force effectively. Nothing special.

DarthAnt66
"Make him doubt himself, his beliefs, or his intentions. Such things disrupt connections to the Force - and death soon follows. Generally, this was done by broadcasting strong emotions while thinking about something else. It was a curious technique, but it seemed to be effective in blinding Jedi. Whether guilt, lust, fear - they act as mental interference, making finding the true intentions of the broadcasting meatbag difficult."
―HK-47 (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords)

:/ You don't die by having a weakened control of the Force, lmfao. Sever Force would do the trick though. thumb up

Nephthys
Death soon follows because that technique was used by Jedi hunters like Atton who were attacking them, dipshit. You can't cut someone off from the Force by thinking really hard. roll eyes (sarcastic)

It disrupted connections because a Jedi's power is so tied up in his mindset. Making them doubt and blasting "interference" at them made it hard for them to concentrate and draw on the Force effectively, just like Anakin crumpled when Dooku taunted him and he was thrown off his game. It's basically just mental Dun Moch.

Aurbere
Originally posted by Nephthys
Death soon follows because that technique was used by Jedi hunters like Atton who were attacking them, dipshit. You can't cut someone off from the Force by thinking really hard. roll eyes (sarcastic)

It disrupted connections because a Jedi's power is so tied up in his mindset. Making them doubt and blasting "interference" at them made it hard for them to concentrate and draw on the Force effectively, just like Anakin crumpled when Dooku taunted him and he was thrown off his game. It's basically just mental Dun Moch.

You contradict your first paragraph in the first sentence of your second paragraph. A Jedi's state of mind is directly related to their ability to draw on the Force, correct. Revan's technique clouds a Jedi's mind and prevents them from properly drawing upon the Force. Essentially, it is a form of telepathy (Mental Dun Moch) that cuts a Jedi off from the Force.

Basically, you're both right, and you mainly added to Ant's point.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by Aurbere
Basically, you're both right, and you mainly added to Ant's point. Aside from the part where it causes death, that's just nonsense.

Nephthys
Originally posted by Aurbere
You contradict your first paragraph in the first sentence of your second paragraph. A Jedi's state of mind is directly related to their ability to draw on the Force, correct. Revan's technique clouds a Jedi's mind and prevents them from properly drawing upon the Force. Essentially, it is a form of telepathy (Mental Dun Moch) that cuts a Jedi off from the Force.

Basically, you're both right, and you mainly added to Ant's point.

It doesn't cut them off from the Force. It's impossible to psyche a Jedi out so much that they completely lose connection to the Force. Merely thinking about strong emotions and random crap isn't remotely potent enough to do that. ANY loser can do that. Even when Bane was in the depths of despair and intentionally limiting himself he could still draw upon the Force. Even gibbering madness doesn't effect someone that much.

All it does is throw them off, weaken them somewhat and mask the intentions of the person using it. And not all Jedi would be effected either. The mental discipline of a Jedi Master could probably ignore it outright. And those who were effected probably wouldn't even be effected that much, it isn't something that'll have much of an effect on a Jedi's ability to operate.

Unless you're gonna argue that Revan solo's by thinking really hard about banging Bastila and severing the Force from the entire PT team. roll eyes (sarcastic)

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