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1: Stane
2: Loki
3: Kurse
4: Chitauri invasion
5: Guardians of the galaxy + Ronan w/o gem.
6: Scarlett Witch, Quicksilver, Ultron and his army
7: The Avengers (AoU)
8: All of the above at the same time, Superman is bloodlusted.

No bfr, to the death.

Stops at Loki.

Yeah?

Originally posted by Reflassshh
1: Stane
2: Loki
3: Kurse
4: Chitauri invasion
5: Guardians of the galaxy + Ronan w/o gem.
6: Scarlett Witch, Quicksilver, Ultron and his army
7: The Avengers (AoU)
8: All of the above at the same time, Superman is bloodlusted.

No bfr, to the death.

6 and 7 could prove trouble if SW can mindphuck him. If she can't he should clear with some difficulty

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Yeah? Yeah.

Why does he stop at Loki? What about heat vision? MOS Supes doesn't even have a magic weakness, so that is out, so why? He has to get up close to do the mind control thing(assuming he has his staff) and his blasts were avoided by normal people at times.

He can create illusions, but could of sworn Supes showed super hearing and all that, or maybe the movie didn't showcase those powers, but still just heat visioning everything would take care of it, and in a h2h fight Loki is screwed.

I have to say though, this list is a little out of order IMO. Only because I feel Kurse is a bigger threat then the Chitauri invasion. Kurse slapped away Thor's hammer like it was nothing. Frankly, I would of put him even above the Guardians of the Galaxy if they didn't have Ronin w/ power gem with them.

Think about it though, Hulk and Thor were taking out Chitauri with ease, but Thor got the shit beat out of him by Kurse and Kurse only died via black hole grenade.

EDIT: Though since we go with the latest versions, Loki has no staff, so how does he win? He has nothing but his own powers here.

Originally posted by Surtur
Why does he stop at Loki? What about heat vision? MOS Supes doesn't even have a magic weakness, so that is out, so why? He has to get up close to do the mind control thing(assuming he has his staff) and his blasts were avoided by normal people at times.

He can create illusions, but could of sworn Supes showed super hearing and all that, or maybe the movie didn't showcase those powers, but still just heat visioning everything would take care of it, and in a h2h fight Loki is screwed.

I have to say though, this list is a little out of order IMO. Only because I feel Kurse is a bigger threat then the Chitauri invasion. Kurse slapped away Thor's hammer like it was nothing. Frankly, I would of put him even above the Guardians of the Galaxy if they didn't have Ronin w/ power gem with them.

Think about it though, Hulk and Thor were taking out Chitauri with ease, but Thor got the shit beat out of him by Kurse and Kurse only died via black hole grenade.

EDIT: Though since we go with the latest versions, Loki has no staff, so how does he win? He has nothing but his own powers here. Superman was briefly ko'd by a knian laser which lacked serious power IMO. Superman barely used heat vision but I see no reason why Loki couldn't tank it. I also don't see any reason Superman can resist his Loki's powers since he has no resistance or experience with dealing with them.

MOS Supes>Thor>Loki

MOS crushes the puny god.

Originally posted by steverules_2
MOS Supes>Thor>Loki Not. At. All.

Quan lowballing MOS as usual. BvS will hopefully shut up MCU fanboys.

Loki gets bolostomped

Scarlet Witch has the abilities to win, though she might be way too slow

Originally posted by playa1258
Quan lowballing MOS as usual. BvS will hopefully shut up MCU fanboys. When Batman beats his ass I will be there to watch your tears.

It's all speculation at this point.

Originally posted by playa1258
It's all speculation at this point. All I know but I am speculating batman is going to beat him up.

Everyone thinks that, it would be a shock if Superman actually won.

Originally posted by playa1258
Everyone thinks that, it would be a shock if Superman actually won. Hahaha, so the human is the favorite over the alien. I love it already. You superman fans are of little faith.

Popularity is all that matters.

Originally posted by playa1258
Popularity is all that matters. So Iron Man also beats his ass. I'm glad you just undermined all superman's speed and feats to popularity trumps all.

Hulk lost to Iron Man due to popularity. I expect the same to happen to Thanos.

Iron Man has been popular for less than ten years. Superman for over 70 lol.

Originally posted by playa1258
Iron Man has been popular for less than ten years. Superman for over 70 lol. Ironman is really popular nowadays. Who cares about 70 years ago. That only makes it worse that in ten years iron man can slaughter Superman at the box office despite a 60 year head start.

Let's see if Iron Man can have longevity post-RDJ.

Originally posted by playa1258
Let's see if Iron Man can have longevity post-RDJ. So now you're changing the parameters. I said today. You want to talk about the future. Based off your debating logic ironman wins today based off being more popular.

In your world.

Originally posted by playa1258
In your world. You said popularity wins. Ironman currently blew man of steel out of the water. So based off your logic ironman currently wins.

Based on your logic Furious 7 is more popular than Avengers considering it beat AOU at the WW box office.

Originally posted by playa1258
Based on your logic Furious 7 is more popular than Avengers considering it beat AOU at the WW box office. Nah, the suit is pretty exceptional and Hulk's attention was diverted. I disagree and we will see.Originally posted by playa1258
Popularity is all that matters.

You said poupularity is all that matters not me.

So it's established Superman clears barring maybe SW, who's a massive glass cannon with no speed feats

Yep he clears it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah, the suit is pretty exceptional and Hulk's attention was diverted. I disagree and we will see.

You said poupularity is all that matters not me.

You think Iron Man is more popular than Batman?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
So it's established Superman clears barring maybe SW, who's a massive glass cannon with no speed feats

I'm wondering what she could do though? As far as damage. The only thing we saw was bloodlust on hulk, Giving the team bad dreams.

Hmmm, good point, come to think of it, she never performed any Xavier type bullshit and I don't think they could really hurt MoS Supes to any serious degree so, he prolly does clear full stop.

She also needed to be close to mind rape.

Originally posted by playa1258
She also needed to be close to mind rape.

She was a good distance from Hulk when he came up, but I don't think it matters honestly.

Originally posted by playa1258
You think Iron Man is more popular than Batman? Than Suoerman for sure. I also think Batman is more popular than Superman. You said popularity is ALL that matters.

Originally posted by playa1258
Yep he clears it. Nah.

Based on?

Originally posted by playa1258
Based on? Films, feats, and facts.

3F's, brah.

Yep he really loses to Loki. Someone who had trouble putting away Captain America, a opponent Superman would one shot.

Originally posted by playa1258
Yep he really loses to Loki. Someone who had trouble putting away Captain America, a opponent Superman would one shot. Loki wanted to be captured. Context.

Superman was knocked out by the strain of an oil tanker tower.

MOS clears

Originally posted by relentless1
MOS clears Based on ?

based on watching MOS and all the MCU films

Originally posted by relentless1
based on watching MOS and all the MCU films Why do you lie to yourself ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not. At. All.

No reason at all Supes couldn't do what Hulk did to Loki and then some, being exponentially faster and all.

Originally posted by Juk3n
No reason at all Supes couldn't do what Hulk did to Loki and then some, being exponentially faster and all. So ? Suoerman has been ko'd by far less than these two. Either one defeat him solo. Wait until Batman rocks him. Can't wait to hear you Superman apologists excuses.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So ? Suoerman has been ko'd by far less than these two. Either one defeat him solo. Wait until Batman rocks him. Can't wait to hear you Superman apologists excuses.

you mean when batman beats superman using supermans main weakness? oh noes!!

Use low end feats all you want, Loki was Down after 3 little slams from hulk, superman had trucks launched at his face, the punishment supes took in MoS is beyond anything Loki has taken.

Originally posted by Juk3n
you mean when batman beats superman using supermans main weakness? oh noes!!

Use low end feats all you want, Loki was Down after 3 little slams from hulk, superman had trucks launched at his face, the punishment supes took in MoS is beyond anything Loki has taken. So any resourceful human can do so with his weakness.

Superman was ko'd by holding up a tower. Hulk would hurt Superman too by slamming him on the ground over and over.

Not. At. All.

Like I said after Batman beats the shit out of him I'll be waiting.

Originally posted by quanchi112


Superman was ko'd by holding up a tower. Hulk would hurt Superman too by slamming him on the ground over and over.




Stop being so biased.


Hulk was KO'd by Iron Man. MOS would obviously smash his face in.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Stop being so biased.


Hulk was KO'd by Iron Man. MOS would obviously smash his face in. He was distracted after a building ko'd him m it was also hulkbuster armor. That's far greater than holding up a torwer.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was distracted after a building ko'd him m it was also hulkbuster armor. That's far greater than holding up a torwer.


Nah. Oil Rig's > IM.

There's not even any proof Supes was KO'd, and not just relaxing in the water.

Still Very poor showing for Hulk. Guy in a mech suit can KO him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman was briefly ko'd by a knian laser which lacked serious power IMO. Superman barely used heat vision but I see no reason why Loki couldn't tank it. I also don't see any reason Superman can resist his Loki's powers since he has no resistance or experience with dealing with them.

What staff-less powers did he show that could take him out. He was KO'ed a kryptonian laser, you say it lacked power, but Loki on his own didn't show superior fire power. He also took punches from Zod, who is stronger then Loki.

Also considering the way HV could damage buildings I don't see Loki just "tanking" it with no trouble.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So ? Suoerman has been ko'd by far less than these two. Either one defeat him solo. Wait until Batman rocks him. Can't wait to hear you Superman apologists excuses.

You realize they are obviously going to have him job hard to Batman in order to make Batman relevant. They will do this by having Batman either using kryptonite or technology to harm him. More then likely a combination of both. But if anything..I expect Superman to have better feats in the upcoming movie. 99% of the time this is the case with super hero film sequels.

Also you act like Thor is that damn tough. Remind me..did he not dive the hell out of the way from that gun fire shot from a helicopter? When they shot it at Hulk? He got out of dodge real quick when they were about to open up fire. This wasn't advanced technology or anything, just guns on a helicopter.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Nah. Oil Rig's > IM.

There's not even any proof Supes was KO'd, and not just relaxing in the water.

Still Very poor showing for Hulk. Guy in a mech suit can KO him. So you believe that oil rig was greater than Hulkbuster Ironman ?

So he took a swing after that.

Not considering what Hulkbuster suit was capable of reformation, etc.

Nah. A poor showing would be ko'd by the strain of an inanimate object. That's a poor showing.

Originally posted by Surtur
What staff-less powers did he show that could take him out. He was KO'ed a kryptonian laser, you say it lacked power, but Loki on his own didn't show superior fire power. He also took punches from Zod, who is stronger then Loki.

Also considering the way HV could damage buildings I don't see Loki just "tanking" it with no trouble.



You realize they are obviously going to have him job hard to Batman in order to make Batman relevant. They will do this by having Batman either using kryptonite or technology to harm him. More then likely a combination of both. But if anything..I expect Superman to have better feats in the upcoming movie. 99% of the time this is the case with super hero film sequels.

Also you act like Thor is that damn tough. Remind me..did he not dive the hell out of the way from that gun fire shot from a helicopter? When they shot it at Hulk? He got out of dodge real quick when they were about to open up fire. This wasn't advanced technology or anything, just guns on a helicopter. Loki also tanked attacks from Thor and Hulk both more powerful IMO than Zod. Loki has illusions and high level skill to add to his advantages.

Better feats don't override on panel comparisons. We shall see. I for one can't wait for a mere human to take this overrated fool down a notch.


Why would Thor tank something like that for the helluva of it ? He has the skill to dodge it so why not dodge it.

Some of the biggest trolling yet seen. Superman is stronger,faster,more durable and has more firepower than Loki, yet Superman loses.

What a crock of shit.

Originally posted by playa1258
Some of the biggest trolling yet seen. Superman is stronger,faster,more durable and has more firepower than Loki, yet Superman loses.

What a crock of shit. Superman isn't as cunning as Loki nor does he have the same abilities. Loki wins.

Loki gets his neck snapped.

Originally posted by playa1258
Loki gets his neck snapped. Nah. Illusions. Kal is an idiot.

Super senses.

Originally posted by playa1258
Super senses. What from the film proves he can decipher the true Loki from super senses.

He has his senses. It does not mean much for Loki either way. Superman would catch him and drop him off on the moon.

Originally posted by playa1258
He has his senses. It does not mean much for Loki either way. Superman would catch him and drop him off on the moon. Ao no proof you just made it up.

Based on ?

On flying in space.

Originally posted by playa1258
On flying in space. So since Thir can fly and Ironman they can just toss him on the moon ? Really ?

I said drop him off.

Originally posted by playa1258
Quan lowballing MOS as usual. BvS will hopefully shut up MCU fanboys.

It might make it worse if the movie is committed to Batwanking.

Which is going to happen.

Its the one fight i didnt want to see put on screen, 2 ways it can go, Kryptonite is the uber cancer and strips supes of his power instantly, making him damn near mortal, in which case - Shit fight fan pandering. Or Kryptonite slowly over an extended battle slowly depletes Kals strength and durability, in which case - Shit fight because if kal retains atleast a FRACTION of the speed we saw displayed in MoS, batmans organs should be liquified, and if he retains a fraction of his strength for even a few seconds of the fight ue should be stripping batmans armor at the joints pretty damn fast.

Basically this is a movie, and more so a fight made for the casual superhero going cinema crowd, (as was the overrated comic if im honest) so they can gasp as batman beats a 'God'. Sensationalist fan pandering where its own faulty logic bites itself in the arse. If krypto is UBER poisonous and debilitating, then its a non-fight, and if its not uber debilitating and superman is not fighting near his fastest and strongest like he did in MoS (in which he was holding back) then its a non logic because ideally batmans exposed jaw should be ripped off in 0.001 seconds. Instead i think we'll see that supes is no match for...kung-fu grip. I can feel the unoriginality across time and it bores me. Snore.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you believe that oil rig was greater than Hulkbuster Ironman ?


Of course. When did IM ever do anything like lifting an Oil Rig?


Originally posted by quanchi112
So he took a swing after that.


He was KO'd.



Originally posted by quanchi112
Not considering what Hulkbuster suit was capable of reformation, etc.

IM's durability is irrelevant. He KO'd Hulk.



Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah. A poor showing would be ko'd by the strain of an inanimate object. That's a poor showing.




Was PIS poor for Hulk. He has to compete for the 3rd most Powerful Avenger spot now. He's no longer in the top 2.

Show me Hulk or IM getting smashed through a mountain at super sonic speeds without it even phasing them

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Of course. When did IM ever do anything like lifting an Oil Rig?





He was KO'd.





IM's durability is irrelevant. He KO'd Hulk.






Was PIS poor for Hulk. He has to compete for the 3rd most Powerful Avenger spot now. He's no longer in the top 2.

Show me Hulk or IM getting smashed through a mountain at super sonic speeds without it even phasing them Ironman was involved destroying a building. He was fine whereas Superman passed out due to the strain of holding that tower up.

So was Superman by just the strain. Quit ignoring the context of the hulk fight.


So being able to reform means nothing. You're a biased twit. Don't ignore the context.


Hulk can't fly that fast. The speed at which an object moves obviously alters the impact. Hulk doesn't need to fly fast to wreck shit. Let's see Superman take down Batman in his special suit. Can't wait to hear you cry.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ironman was involved destroying a building. He was fine whereas Superman passed out due to the strain of holding that tower up.


You are actively ignoring all the buildings, trains, fuel trucks and mountains superman hit head on at greater speed (means greater impact, as in MORE DAMAGING) with no ill effect, and focusing on ONE showing, which lol, isn't even that bad, with no proof he was koed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Let's see Superman take down Batman in his special suit. Can't wait to hear you cry.

Showing your obvious bias and hate for supes, all I need to stop arguing really.

Originally posted by quanchi112


Superman was knocked out by the strain of an oil tanker tower.

You have jacked off to this scene as evidence for years but after all this time how do you still fail to realize that this is a Clark who has barely tapped and harnessed his powers?

Originally posted by Based
You have jacked off to this scene as evidence for years but after all this time how do you still fail to realize that this is a Clark who has barely tapped and harnessed his powers?

He realises it. He just ignores it since it hurts his biased claims

Originally posted by Based
You have jacked off to this scene as evidence for years but after all this time how do you still fail to realize that this is a Clark who has barely tapped and harnessed his powers? His durability didn't change. It's canon.

Originally posted by Juk3n
You are actively ignoring all the buildings, trains, fuel trucks and mountains superman hit head on at greater speed (means greater impact, as in MORE DAMAGING) with no ill effect, and focusing on ONE showing, which lol, isn't even that bad, with no proof he was koed.



Showing your obvious bias and hate for supes, all I need to stop arguing really. I focus on all the evidence so he can tank those other showings with speed but without the speed he goes down to far less.

I will always go by the facts whereas you seem to want to distance yourself from them. Leave if you feel the heat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I focus on all the evidence so he can tank those other showings with speed but without the speed he goes down to far less.


He has one showing of an oil rig collapsing on top of him, and him, questionably unconscious?

And he has more than 10 instances of being hit harder than that oil rig collapse and not being unconscious.

Also do you have even the slightest knowledge of physics, if he gets hit harder by something, it has MORE impact, and does more damage, its really simple dude..

Originally posted by Juk3n
He has one showing of an oil rig collapsing on top of him, and him, questionably unconscious?

And he has more than 10 instances of being hit harder than that oil rig collapse and not being unconscious.

Also do you have even the slightest knowledge of physics, if he gets hit harder by something, it has MORE impact, and does more damage, its really simple dude.. I didn't say there were more showings of that but pretending that showing didn't happen is biased.

It also creates more of a powerful impact. His durability was greater than said objects but the strain of holding that up was too much for him in that scene.

Undeniable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ironman was involved destroying a building. He was fine whereas Superman passed out due to the strain of holding that tower up.


Superman has smashed through a mountain without feeling anything.

Again show me anything Iron Man has done strength wise that compares to holding up an Oil Rig.


Oh that's right, you can't so will just Troll.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So was Superman by just the strain. Quit ignoring the context of the hulk fight.

He was KO'd by IM. Even had his teeth smashed out mid-fight.

Deal boy. Deal.


Originally posted by quanchi112
So being able to reform means nothing. You're a biased twit. Don't ignore the context.


Of course IM's suit reforming with new parts has nothing to do with his strength dummy. Give me his best strength feat? Has he ever done anything like lift an Oil Rig? Nope.

You lose



Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk can't fly that fast. The speed at which an object moves obviously alters the impact.

Exactly. Superman smashing through that mountain at super sonic speeds is much greater than any hit Hulk has ever tanked.




Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk doesn't need to fly fast to wreck shit.


Hulk gets his teeth knocked out by IM, and then KO'd by him.



Originally posted by quanchi112
Let's see Superman take down Batman in his special suit. Can't wait to hear you cry.


LMAO

The words of someone with no argument - "I will lowball based on my own script for an upcoming movie!"

I'm not a whiner who comes out with excuses like you.

But I bet Supes doesn't get his teeth smashed in and one shotted by Batman

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Superman has smashed through a mountain without feeling anything.

Again show me anything Iron Man has done strength wise that compares to holding up an Oil Rig.


Oh that's right, you can't so will just Troll.



He was KO'd by IM. Even had his teeth smashed out mid-fight.

Deal boy. Deal.





Of course IM's suit reforming with new parts has nothing to do with his strength dummy. Give me his best strength feat? Has he ever done anything like lift an Oil Rig? Nope.

You lose





Exactly. Superman smashing through that mountain at super sonic speeds is much greater than any hit Hulk has ever tanked.







Hulk gets his teeth knocked out by IM, and then KO'd by him.






LMAO

The words of someone with no argument - "I will lowball based on my own script for an upcoming movie!"

I'm not a whiner who comes out with excuses like you.

But I bet Supes doesn't get his teeth smashed in and one shotted by Batman I never said smashing into a building would ko him so you're making a moot point.


Watch the Hulk fight in part two. Building, fighting the Hulk who stopped a leviathan's momentum with relative ease.

He was looking elsewhere after a massive fight and reformation. Suoerman passed out due to the strain of that tower. Which is worse ?

Keep in mind Batman will take Superman on in a year. I can't friggin wait.

It has to do with fighting and being able to reform broken parts. If someone tears the t-1000 apart for an hour before succumbing do we ignore the reformation part of the fight ?

I disagree. Hulk owning the leviathan with ease surpasses those flight and durability feats.

Due to reformation and Hulk looking elsewhere after a prolonged fight.

We will see a human in a mechanical suit take on Superman. You ranted and raved about Ironman so let's see you face the music when Bruce WAyne hurts him. I already pulled from this movie and am betting batman is going to hurt him really bad. If he ko's him I can't wait to hear your excuses.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said smashing into a building would ko him so you're making a moot point.


No I'm proving Superman can tank more than the Hulk and IM combined.

That's not moot dumbo.


Originally posted by quanchi112
Watch the Hulk fight in part two. Building, fighting the Hulk who stopped a leviathan's momentum with relative ease.

He got KO'd by a guy in a mech suit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was looking elsewhere after a massive fight and reformation. Suoerman passed out due to the strain of that tower. Which is worse ?


He wasn't looking anywhere else when he got his teeth smashed out.

Of course that's worse. Because the guy who KO'd him can't lift an Oil Rig


Originally posted by quanchi112
Keep in mind Batman will take Superman on in a year. I can't friggin wait.



So desperately biased. Using an unseen film as evidence.

This is exactly why you're the number 1 troll on KMC


Originally posted by quanchi112
It has to do with fighting and being able to reform broken parts. If someone tears the t-1000 apart for an hour before succumbing do we ignore the reformation part of the fight ?


T-1000 can survive getting ripped apart. IM can't.

T-1000 doesn't need new parts and aid to regenerate. IM does.

There's a massive difference between the 2 dummy.


Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree. Hulk owning the leviathan with ease surpasses those flight and durability feats.


That don't have squat to do with how tough his chin is.

IM smashed his teeth out. Therefore Superman will smash his face in and out.


Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to reformation and Hulk looking elsewhere after a prolonged fight.


Nah he got his teeth smashed out. He wasn't looking elsewhere then. Show me Supes getting KO'd when looking elsewhere


Originally posted by quanchi112
We will see a human in a mechanical suit take on Superman. You ranted and raved about Ironman so let's see you face the music when Bruce WAyne hurts him. I already pulled from this movie and am betting batman is going to hurt him really bad. If he ko's him I can't wait to hear your excuses.







I accept your temporary concession until BvS comes out.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
1: Stane
2: Loki
3: Kurse
4: Chitauri invasion
5: Guardians of the galaxy + Ronan w/o gem.
6: Scarlett Witch, Quicksilver, Ultron and his army
7: The Avengers (AoU)
8: All of the above at the same time, Superman is bloodlusted.

No bfr, to the death.

1. MOS
2. Mos
3. (i honestly don't know, it took a black hole to kill hurse and he was man handling thor)
4. Mos ( not much of a problem seeing as he doesnt care about cities
5. tough battle 75/25 Gardians + ronan take this ( with stone of course)
6. i am going with Team Avergers 2 ( lol still havent seen it)
7. am going with MOS
8. actual blood lust... either superman kills them in the first 7 minutes or he loses

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
No I'm proving Superman can tank more than the Hulk and IM combined.

That's not moot dumbo.




He got KO'd by a guy in a mech suit.




He wasn't looking anywhere else when he got his teeth smashed out.

Of course that's worse. Because the guy who KO'd him can't lift an Oil Rig






So desperately biased. Using an unseen film as evidence.

This is exactly why you're the number 1 troll on KMC





T-1000 can survive getting ripped apart. IM can't.

T-1000 doesn't need new parts and aid to regenerate. IM does.

There's a massive difference between the 2 dummy.





That don't have squat to do with how tough his chin is.

IM smashed his teeth out. Therefore Superman will smash his face in and out.





Nah he got his teeth smashed out. He wasn't looking elsewhere then. Show me Supes getting KO'd when looking elsewhere








I accept your temporary concession until BvS comes out. No, you aren't since ironman ko'd Hulk who was paying attention to other things. Hulk easily stopped a leviathan whereas an oil tower knocked superman out. Winner:Hulk.

That's ignoring the context and trying to sum it up in an effort to downplay the evidence.

I feel he could lift an oil rig. Who cares if he got a tooth knocked out ?

That isn't evidence that's me talking trash. I bet I'm right. Wanna bet on it ?

T-1000 was damaged by far less and cannot withstand anyone as powerful as the Hulk. You can ignore the details of the reformation because you're a troll.

He can knock a tooth out. That won't put him down, sport. You're losing it here.


Super got ko'd while focusing on lifting an oil tower. That's awful.




I will be there that day to rub your face in it when a guy in a mech suit hurts him. Badly.

@ Chiquan

Can't wait for mech Batman to beat the false god Superman's ass.

It'll be a good thing to have a Batman that's > Tony.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
It'll be a good thing to have a Batman that's > Tony. Oh that's another matchup I'll be down to debate. I know Iron Man crushes Bale's Batman.



You're free to speculate on Affleck batman.

Keep it calm dude, they don't even exist!

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Keep it calm dude, they don't even exist! I am calm. You saying batman beats iron man is ludicrous. Bane beat his ass. Lol.

Quan is going to love AffleckBatman as much as Khan.

Originally posted by playa1258
Quan is going to love AffleckBatman as much as Khan. Nah. He already looks and sounds lame just from the preview. Ben Affleck isn't that great of an actor. He's no Cumberbatch. Not even close to him.

AffleckBatman will be able to defeat Khan easily. In fact he will probably curbstomp.

Originally posted by playa1258
AffleckBatman will be able to defeat Khan easily. In fact he will probably curbstomp. I highly doubt that. One thing I know is that Khan wrecks Bale's Batman.

Not talking about Bale Batman. AffleckBatman is going to be the most powerful version of Batman seen yet in live action.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am calm. You saying batman beats iron man is ludicrous. Bane beat his ass. Lol. ?

Current Batman hasn't even appeared yet, quit dreaming.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
?

Current Batman hasn't even appeared yet, quit dreaming. So you have no clue but we have other batmen. Iron man rocks those wimps.

Whatever helps you sleeping bruh.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Whatever helps you sleeping bruh. I am fine you are the one who seems troubled by tony stark.

AffleckBatman will be able to defeat MCU Iron Man.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am fine you are the one who seems troubled by tony stark. Based on?

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Based on? Your posts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your posts. Lol!

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Lol! Concession accepted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Concession accepted. Lol!

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Lol! Another concession.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Another concession. Lol!

Originally posted by Reflassshh
1: Stane
2: Loki
3: Kurse
4: Chitauri invasion
5: Guardians of the galaxy + Ronan w/o gem.
6: Scarlett Witch, Quicksilver, Ultron and his army
7: The Avengers (AoU)
8: All of the above at the same time, Superman is bloodlusted.

No bfr, to the death.

First five is more than doable. After that... Not sure.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you aren't since ironman ko'd Hulk who was paying attention to other things. Hulk easily stopped a leviathan whereas an oil tower knocked superman out. Winner:Hulk.

That's ignoring the context and trying to sum it up in an effort to downplay the evidence.

I feel he could lift an oil rig. Who cares if he got a tooth knocked out ?

That isn't evidence that's me talking trash. I bet I'm right. Wanna bet on it ?

T-1000 was damaged by far less and cannot withstand anyone as powerful as the Hulk. You can ignore the details of the reformation because you're a troll.

He can knock a tooth out. That won't put him down, sport. You're losing it here.


Super got ko'd while focusing on lifting an oil tower. That's awful.


IM can't lift an Oil Rig. He smashed Hulk's teeth out. So obviously Superman would smash Hulk's face in.

Superman can smash through a mountain at super sonic speeds unarmed, whilst Hulk gets KO'd by IM


I win as usual

I agree Hulk can take T-1000 But when he's good enough to play with the DC big boys let me know.



Originally posted by quanchi112


I will be there that day to rub your face in it when a guy in a mech suit hurts him. Badly.



I accept your concession until BvS comes out

Most of this entire list is fodder. Why is nurse so low? I'm just gonna list the people here who have the potential to beat Superman.

Kurse-cant be physically harmed, did more damage to Thor's face than a nuclear sized explosion. Backhanded Mjolnir.

Scarlet Witch/Loki- could mindphuck him but would get easily oneshotted.

Rocket Racoon- a rod enforcer would decimate Supes, bit could get easily one shorted before he got a shot off.

Visions- intangibility/mind gem

Thor- durability way past anything MOS has dished out, most powerful attacks way past anything MOS has been shown to take. That being said, Supes would straight up beat the shit outta my boy thor for the majority of the fight. MOS average showings are way better but he hasn't shown much when it comes to the high end stuff. But aside from Thor,Hulk and Kurse his low end showings dwarf the entire MCU's best.

Oh yeah, Hulk could get some wins, but MOS would have to fight completely retarded and let Hulk pound on him. Equal strength, but mobility, speed,intelligence, long range offensive capabilities should guarantee the win.

At full capacity, up to 7 no problem.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
IM can't lift an Oil Rig. He smashed Hulk's teeth out. So obviously Superman would smash Hulk's face in.

Superman can smash through a mountain at super sonic speeds unarmed, whilst Hulk gets KO'd by IM


I win as usual

I agree Hulk can take T-1000 But when he's good enough to play with the DC big boys let me know.







I accept your concession until BvS comes out You are assuming Hulkbuster armor can't lift the oil rig. Superman obviously can't keep its up that long.

The building destruction didn't ko Hulk therefore IronMan's punch is greater than that, dummy.

So you concede there. Perfect. Hulk would rape Superman. But let's see how he fares against a guy in a mech suit. Let's also see if Batman's suit can reform like IronMan's did.

I already win now but it is only going to get worse. Trust me.

Originally posted by quanchi112


We will see a human in a mechanical suit take on Superman. You ranted and raved about Ironman so let's see you face the music when Bruce WAyne hurts him. I already pulled from this movie and am betting batman is going to hurt him really bad. If he ko's him I can't wait to hear your excuses.



You confuse me with this statement.. You think its just going to be a mech suit on its own that beats supes?

No Kryptonite? Because if there is Kryptonite what you're really saying is, you cant wait to see superman in a weakened state on screen so you can use this as evidence against him vs another heavy hitter, in which case lol, you have fallen dude.

Originally posted by Juk3n
You confuse me with this statement.. You think its just going to be a mech suit on its own that beats supes?

No Kryptonite? Because if there is Kryptonite what you're really saying is, you cant wait to see superman in a weakened state on screen so you can use this as evidence against him vs another heavy hitter, in which case lol, you have fallen dude. I was giving Darth power his own bias back in his face. I don't think Iron Man is just some guy in a mech suit but that's what Darth power reduced the showing to. So by his same standards I can say look at this guy in a mech suit vs. Superman.

If there is knite there is a very easy to use exploitation. We shall see though.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are assuming Hulkbuster armor can't lift the oil rig. Superman obviously can't keep its up that long.


Of course Hulkbuster IM can't lift an Oil Rig. He has zero feats suggesting he can do anything of the sort.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The building destruction didn't ko Hulk therefore IronMan's punch is greater than that, dummy.

IM has done nothing to suggest his punch would even effect Superman. MOS has flown into a mountain at supersonic speeds unfazed. Hulk gets KO'd by IM


Originally posted by quanchi112
So you concede there. Perfect. Hulk would rape Superman. But let's see how he fares against a guy in a mech suit. Let's also see if Batman's suit can reform like IronMan's did.


Have you gone completely delusional now? Exactly what point did I concede on.

yawn And let's also see if Superman get's KO'd by one punch, or gets his teeth smashed in, or if Batman uses Alien tech/Kryptonite to battle Superman.

I accept your temporary concession until BvS comes out. Then I will spank you all over again


Originally posted by quanchi112
I already win now but it is only going to get worse. Trust me.


You've already conceded boy. And I've been trashing you arguments on multiple threads simultaneously today.

Originally posted by -Pr-
First five is more than doable. After that... Not sure. Yeah, it gets tricky with Wanda and Vision.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Of course Hulkbuster IM can't lift an Oil Rig. He has zero feats suggesting he can do anything of the sort.



IM has done nothing to suggest his punch would even effect Superman. MOS has flown into a mountain at supersonic speeds unfazed. Hulk gets KO'd by IM





Have you gone completely delusional now? Exactly what point did I concede on.

yawn And let's also see if Superman get's KO'd by one punch, or gets his teeth smashed in, or if Batman uses Alien tech/Kryptonite to battle Superman.

I accept your temporary concession until BvS comes out. Then I will spank you all over again





You've already conceded boy. And I've been trashing you arguments on multiple threads simultaneously today. Why can't he when he can go take to toe with the Hulk who has far greater strength feats than that ? You're quite dense.

Bs. His punch affected the hulk. Not even punching superman has ko'd him. Tower, bro.

Alien tech is just a title. It's about feats and what its capabilities. Quit relying titles and making excuses. You tried reducing ironman to a guy in a mech suit but somehow it's going to be different for batman. You're a dumb hypocritical troll.

You're tying to give yourself another exit. You're a coward.

You are delusional and hypocritical. You're wrong. You've been destroyed, troll.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why can't he when he can go take to toe with the Hulk who has far greater strength feats than that ?

That's called fanboy speculation.

He has zero feats to show he can do anything of the sort.

Just like in the Khan threads, I've defeated you on feats. All you have is trollish arguments "oh but why can't he do that" What a fanboy

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're quite dense.


Feats are on my side. You've conceded to me over and over by failing to provide the superior feats.

You will have nightmares about me destroying you over and over and over.




Originally posted by quanchi112
Bs. His punch affected the hulk. Not even punching superman has ko'd him. Tower, bro..

Nah. Superman smashed through a mountain at super sonic speed. Getting KO'd by a mech suit is a joke to him. Nor can you punch out his indestructible teeth. Unlike Hulk



Originally posted by quanchi112
Alien tech is just a title. It's about feats and what its capabilities. Quit relying titles and making excuses. You tried reducing ironman to a guy in a mech suit but somehow it's going to be different for batman. You're a dumb hypocritical troll.


And IM has no feats to show he can lift an Oil Rig. So if IM can knock Hulk's teeth out, Superman will smash his face in.

End of. Feats are on my side as usual.


Originally posted by quanchi112
You're tying to give yourself another exit. You're a coward.


What exit? I've won.

Not my fault you're not man enough to admit it.

I've beaten you so hard you have to make up your own script for an unreleased movie


Originally posted by quanchi112
You are delusional and hypocritical. You're wrong. You've been destroyed, troll.

I've destroyed you in every thread, because all you have is trollish arguments, and lowballing all you can, whilst I have the feats.

You've been destroyed by someone 1000 times you superior. No shame in that bro

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
That's called fanboy speculation.

He has zero feats to show he can do anything of the sort.

Just like in the Khan threads, I've defeated you on feats. All you have is trollish arguments "oh but why can't he do that" What a fanboy




Feats are on my side. You've conceded to me over and over by failing to provide the superior feats.

You will have nightmares about me destroying you over and over and over.






Nah. Superman smashed through a mountain at super sonic speed. Getting KO'd by a mech suit is a joke to him. Nor can you punch out his indestructible teeth. Unlike Hulk






And IM has no feats to show he can lift an Oil Rig. So if IM can knock Hulk's teeth out, Superman will smash his face in.

End of. Feats are on my side as usual.





What exit? I've won.

Not my fault you're not man enough to admit it.

I've beaten you so hard you have to make up your own script for an unreleased movie




I've destroyed you in every thread, because all you have is trollish arguments, and lowballing all you can, whilst I have the feats.

You've been destroyed by someone 1000 times you superior. No shame in that bro

No,it is called powerscaling. You can pretend he can't trade blows with someone who easily stopped a leviathan but that's what makes you such a troll. I have feats. Hulk.


Hulk has the superior feat and IronMan took him on.


Ironman also assists the leviathan destruction.


I don't think so. It isn't the same thing. Can the mountain fight back ? Nan the mountain think ? Can the mountain punch him in the face and toss him around ? Nah. You're a troll. Apples and oranges..

Ironman took on hulk who easily did so. Hulk was ko'd. Boom. Done.

You're ignoring the powerscaling and trying to compare apples to oranges. You're a witless troll.

Continue to live in your own world and ignore evidence and logic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No,it is called powerscaling. You can pretend he can't trade blows with someone who easily stopped a leviathan but that's what makes you such a troll. I have feats. Hulk.


Nope because you said it yourself. IM could only go toe to toe with Hulk because he was getting constantly repaired. He doesn't have the strength Hulk has.

And he has Zero feats suggesting he can lift an Oil rig.

As usual I've beaten you in a feat war.




Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk has the superior feat and IronMan took him on.
.


Hulk is KO'd and gets his teeth knocked out too easily. He's clearly much stronger than he is durable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ironman also assists the leviathan destruction.





Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't think so. It isn't the same thing. Can the mountain fight back ? Nan the mountain think ? Can the mountain punch him in the face and toss him around ? Nah. You're a troll. Apples and oranges..


It's a massive durability feat, way beyond anything Hulk can take. Remember MOS smashed into it at super sonic speeds. Whilst Hulk had his teeth smashed in by a guy in a mech suit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ironman took on hulk who easily did so. Hulk was ko'd. Boom. Done.


Exactly. So Superman would smash Hulk's face inside out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're ignoring the powerscaling and trying to compare apples to oranges. You're a witless troll.

Continue to live in your own world and ignore evidence and logic.



Nah you're ignoring the difference between Durability and Strength. Hulk has tremendous strength, perhaps comparable to MOS's. But when it comes to durability and speed, Hulk is simply outmatched by MOS.


Now show me a strength feat from IM like holding up an Oil Rig or a Hulk durability feat not getting fazed by being smashed into a mountain at supersonic speeds, or I'll claim victory here as well based on feats.

'Nan the mountain think?' -Quanchi

Originally posted by Reflassshh
'Nan the mountain think?' -Quanchi Rely on a typo because you can't debate for shit.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Nope because you said it yourself. IM could only go toe to toe with Hulk because he was getting constantly repaired. He doesn't have the strength Hulk has.

And he has Zero feats suggesting he can lift an Oil rig.

As usual I've beaten you in a feat war.







Hulk is KO'd and gets his teeth knocked out too easily. He's clearly much stronger than he is durable.










It's a massive durability feat, way beyond anything Hulk can take. Remember MOS smashed into it at super sonic speeds. Whilst Hulk had his teeth smashed in by a guy in a mech suit.




Exactly. So Superman would smash Hulk's face inside out.




Nah you're ignoring the difference between Durability and Strength. Hulk has tremendous strength, perhaps comparable to MOS's. But when it comes to durability and speed, Hulk is simply outmatched by MOS.


Now show me a strength feat from IM like holding up an Oil Rig or a Hulk durability feat not getting fazed by being smashed into a mountain at supersonic speeds, or I'll claim victory here as well based on feats. He doesn't have the durability. Durability and strength are two separate things. He ko'd the Hulk with his strength but his suit had to be reformed due to his weaker durability. You're an idiot. Mindless.

After an extended fight and collateral damage throughout the city. You can pretend it was just one punch. You're a troll. Just like the guy in a Mech suit comment. Troll.

I disagree. One laser ko'd superman. Hulk tanked hundreds of lasers. Feats, bro. You're dumb.

Nah, Ironman and Hulk both beat Superman. Difference is Hulk was looking elsewhere. Facts.

Ironically enough you confused strength and durability. Superman fled from gun fire whereas Hulk just swatted it away like a minor irritant. A laser ko'd Superman and Hulk has greater power feats than the laser.

Knocking out the Hulk. That's a strength feat. That's far more impressive than passing out due to the strain of that small time tower.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He doesn't have the durability. Durability and strength are two separate things. He ko'd the Hulk with his strength but his suit had to be reformed due to his weaker durability. You're an idiot. Mindless.

After an extended fight and collateral damage throughout the city. You can pretend it was just one punch. You're a troll. Just like the guy in a Mech suit comment. Troll.

I disagree. One laser ko'd superman. Hulk tanked hundreds of lasers. Feats, bro. You're dumb.

Nah, Ironman and Hulk both beat Superman. Difference is Hulk was looking elsewhere. Facts.

Ironically enough you confused strength and durability. Superman fled from gun fire whereas Hulk just swatted it away like a minor irritant. A laser ko'd Superman and Hulk has greater power feats than the laser.

Knocking out the Hulk. That's a strength feat. That's far more impressive than passing out due to the strain of that small time tower.


HAHAH You're so butt hurt.

I see you've completely failed to provide a strength feat of IM's equal to or a durability feat of Hulk's thats equal to smashing through a mountain at super sonic speeds.

I accept your concession.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
'Nan the mountain think?' -Quanchi

It's Quan, what do you expect?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
HAHAH You're so butt hurt.

I see you've completely failed to provide a strength feat of IM's equal to or a durability feat of Hulk's thats equal to smashing through a mountain at super sonic speeds.

I accept your concession.

He ko'd Hulk. Who has Superman ko'd that was impressive by the way ?

You failed to respond to all my points. You're broken. You're a hypocrite. You're weak.

You have failed to post any impressive feats and are a troll.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rely on a typo because you can't debate for shit. Quit mirroring yourself in others, nerd.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Quit mirroring yourself in others, nerd. Based on ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your posts.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Which ones ?

'You can't debate for shit'
'Nan a mountain think? Neither nan I' -Quanchi

Originally posted by Reflassshh
'You can't debate for shit'
'Nan a mountain think? Neither nan I' -Quanchi Typos is all a weaker debater such as yourself can cling to. Concession accepted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Typos is all a weaker debater such as yourself can cling to. Concession accepted. So, you can't prove you don't mirror yourself in others when you insult someone? Concession accepted.

Lol!

Originally posted by Reflassshh
So, you can't prove you don't mirror yourself in others when you insult someone? Concession accepted.

Lol! You made the claim, kiddo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You made the claim, kiddo. Which you were unable to disprove.

Lol!

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Which you were unable to disprove.

Lol! If you make the claim the onus is on you. You don't even have the fundamentals of debating down. Lol.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you make the claim the onus is on you. You don't even have the fundamentals of debating down. Lol. Sure thing, buddy.

Lol!

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Sure thing, buddy.

Lol! Concession accepted.

Lol!

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Lol! Loki ftw.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Loki ftw. Lol! x2

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Lol! x2 You concede yet again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Loki also tanked attacks from Thor and Hulk both more powerful IMO than Zod. Loki has illusions and high level skill to add to his advantages.

What attacks by Hulk did Loki "tank"? Hulk smashed the hell out of him. I guess surviving is a feat, but he was definitely down and out.

Thor also flat out tells Loki in "Thor 2" that every time they fought he held back. So what skill did Loki show? He was sure skilled at murdering featless SHIELD agents, I will give you that. Of course he had a cosmic staff with him for that part.



If he doesn't need to dodge why dodge? He also didn't just dodge, he got the hell out of dodge, out of the way of that gunfire. It didn't seem to be a case of "this will do no damage to me but nonetheless I will jump out of the way and act as if it would damage me". Heck even Hulk did not seem to be flat out 100% ignoring the gunfire.

Originally posted by Surtur
What attacks by Hulk did Loki "tank"? Hulk smashed the hell out of him. I guess surviving is a feat, but he was definitely down and out.

Thor also flat out tells Loki in "Thor 2" that every time they fought he held back. So what skill did Loki show? He was sure skilled at murdering featless SHIELD agents, I will give you that. Of course he had a cosmic staff with him for that part.



If he doesn't need to dodge why dodge? He also didn't just dodge, he got the hell out of dodge, out of the way of that gunfire. It didn't seem to be a case of "this will do no damage to me but nonetheless I will jump out of the way and act as if it would damage me". Heck even Hulk did not seem to be flat out 100% ignoring the gunfire. He was without any serious injury and was shocked more than anything. Yes, Thor owns Loki.

He was also skilled vs cap. Hulk swatted away like annoying flies whereas Superman flew away. He if could effortlessly tank why fly away ? Makes no sense.

Superman dodged gunfire too...

Originally posted by FrothByte
Superman dodged gunfire too...

I think the difference would be that we see Superman and Superman like beings take that gunfire and be no worse for wear while we don't see Thor take gunfire.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Superman dodged gunfire too... I know.

Originally posted by juggerman
I think the difference would be that we see Superman and Superman like beings take that gunfire and be no worse for wear while we don't see Thor take gunfire.

That gunfire knocked down that big kryptonian on his ass. And he was fully armored.

We also see Loki get shot in the face and it didn't do anything to him. Granted, that was a hand held firearm but still, none of the Kryptonians can say they got shot in the face and didn't flinch.

Faora was shot numerous times and did not flinch. Also a 30mm cannon is far more powerful than a pansy handgun.

Superman flew through a mountain at mach speeds. Yeah that>>>>bullet damage