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Talzin

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Talzin

Gethzerion.

ROTS Sheev dealt with Talzin personally, ROTJ Sheev blockaded the entire planet simply because she lived on it. Her power feats are ludicrous as well:

Originally posted by AncientPower
Gethzerion.

ROTS Sheev dealt with Talzin personally, ROTJ Sheev blockaded the entire planet simply because she lived on it.

Gethzerion confirmed > Sidious

Ahh I need to read that book. New Republic era has a lot of material as well.

That's not much of an argument, AncientPower tbh. Sidious was equally wary of Talzin and Gethzerion tbh... One could say he fount Talzin's death more... Imperative. (:<

TBH.

Good point. Sidious had to confront Talzin personally and deal with her; with Gethzerion, he just trapped her on her planet and that was that.

We all know what happened when she tried to leave.

heuheu

Originally posted by AncientPower
Gethzerion.

ROTS Sheev dealt with Talzin personally, ROTJ Sheev blockaded the entire planet simply because she lived on it. Her power feats are ludicrous as well:

Dooku suggested a similar method of dealing with Talzin ala droid army. Sidious flat out says she's too powerful for such methods.

gethzerion

Regardless Gethzerion one-shotted post-ROTJ Luke, killed a hundred stormtroopers in one attack and can summon Force Storms.

Silri>> Sidious confirmed. HewHewHew

"Who is the most powerful among you?"

"Silri can be found to the Frenzied River Prison to the north."

Originally posted by AncientPower
Regardless Gethzerion one-shotted post-ROTJ Luke, killed a hundred stormtroopers in one attack and can summon Force Storms.


Force Storms? Pardon?

She summons something inbetween a massive FLS and a genuine Force Storm simply because she was angry.

It's a Weather Storm.

It's not even close to a Wormhole Storm.

Man I need to read Courtship.

I never said it was SunRazer, it is still a Force Storm however.

I thought by "genuine" Force Storm, you meant the Wormhole.

Sidious' version may as well have it's own name, the other depictions are far smaller.

Meh Talzin can make herself intangible tbh, Force drained Dooku and realistically if he can go toe to toe with Darth Sidious should easily be able to dispatch Luke Skywalker.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Sidious' version may as well have it's own name, the other depictions are far smaller.

Yeah, that's kind of disingenuous though. We generally call what you are calling a Force Lightning Storm/ Lightning Storm. A Force Storm is way, way way, waaayy different and more powerful.

Also none of those feats seem to be above Talzin imo.

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I was under the impression that Geth was easily superior to Talzin.

You were misled; Talzin's superiority is set in stone.

Originally posted by Trocity
You were misled; Talzin's superiority is set in stone. Thanks for updating me then.

Originally posted by Trocity
You were misled; Talzin's superiority is set in stone. Why is that??...

Because she was actually stalemating Sidious on Dathomir. Being wary of a potential threat is a bit below that I'd say.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Because she was actually stalemating Sidious on Dathomir. Being wary of a potential threat is a bit below that I'd say. And Gethzerion effortlessly stomped post-ROTJ Luke.

By physically affecting his brain because he didn't react in time...

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
By physically affecting his brain because he didn't react in time... Which SHE did.

Which, in turn, makes her superior.

To Luke at the time, yes. Doesn't make her comparable to Sidious or Talzin.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
To Luke at the time, yes. Doesn't make her comparable to Sidious or Talzin. IIRC Correctly, that was post-ROTJ.

(If the quote can still be used, then Vader is 80% of Sidious' power, which would make Luke the same as well.)

Not even mentioning that she can passively make Force Lightning Storms from being irritated, which means shes more then capable of utilizing that in combat.

Lets not forget she beat him without even drawing a weapon, she only used TK and almost killed him.

Luke matching his father in sabers doesn't mean he's equivalently powerful.

And Sidious can cause storms through his mere presence in DR. What's your point?

She used TK Luke didn't defend himself from.

Vader is stated to be above Geth, and IIRC Luke said that he wasn't as strong as his father in CoPL.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Vader is stated to be above Geth, and IIRC Luke said that he wasn't as strong as his father in CoPL. Quote, please?

I'll search later. IIRC RotJ Vader, was stated to be the second strongest Darksider of the Galaxy.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
I'll search later. IIRC RotJ Vader, was stated to be the second strongest Darksider of the Galaxy. -Waves hand in front of his face- Thats not the quote you're looking for...

Anyway, no, the actual quote says that he's second only to the Emperor, DUE to his devotion to the Empire.

That would imply that he was ahead of Yoda.

Due to his devotion to the Emperor... yet the quote mentions his power in the Dark Side...

Makes about as much sense as any other argument you regurgitate on a daily basis.

K' then. I see RotJ Vader>RotJ Yoda, tbh.

I mean, RotJ Yoda was on his death bed :/

Originally posted by MythLord
I mean, RotJ Yoda was on his death bed :/ Thats true. But it usually takes someone dying a year or so to start dying, depending on what theyre dying from.

Yoda could have been sick for a few days, maybe a day.

In ANH he was perfectly capable of using the force in an impressive display of TK.

His impressive TK feats are lifting a ship with medium effort during the original trilogy. And this is Vader during the timeframe of RotJ, so I have no idea why we're mentioning ANH Yoda...

It is irrelevant.