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Alright the Cap family is tough is there 3 Streetlevelers that could defeat The Cap family? Good/Evil


Cap Family
Captain America
Ultimate Captain America
US Agent
Winter Soldier
Falcon
Hawkeye

outside of heavily one sided prep, no

cue posters listing low metas and above

Batman, Red Hood, and Night Wing solo these D listers like the CHUMPS they are.

6v3 and the six has 2 legit Superhumans...

Frank Castle

And his two friends, fisty and poundy.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Batman, Red Hood, and Night Wing solo these D listers like the CHUMPS they are.

Would you care to battlezone me over this topic ?

Originally posted by Facee
Would you care to battlezone me over this topic ?

Yes

Originally posted by Board Walker
Yes

Perfect. I will be in contact so we can set a date.

Ultimate Steve is too much for any streets, he could prolly take a combination of any two you could think of. Team is too strong for this topic really. Outside of Prep..

Easy.

Rose Tattoo.

Batman

And......

White Tiger (apparently a Low Street )

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Easy.

Rose Tattoo.

Batman

And......

White Tiger (apparently a Low Street )

"Team cheese" should do it:

Mr. X

Judomaster

Cassandra Cain



Doesn't matter how strong Ultimate Cap is if he can't ever hit his target.

Originally posted by cdtm
"Team cheese" should do it:

Mr. X

Judomaster

Cassandra Cain



Doesn't matter how strong Ultimate Cap is if he can't ever hit his target.

Theres no evidence to support the claim that 616 steve wont be able to hit Cassie Cain. Hasn't mr X been hit sans gimmick counter to his ability before? Judo master gets a ricochet shield toss to the dome.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Theres no evidence to support the claim that 616 steve wont be able to hit Cassie Cain. Hasn't mr X been hit sans gimmick counter to his ability before? Judo master gets a ricochet shield toss to the dome.

Cass's body reading makes her unhittable, sans pis or a comparable skill (Like Shiva has.)

The version of Judomaster I'm thinking of, from JSA's "Gog" story, could only he hit via area attack. A richotte shot is still an aimed shot.

And yeah, Mr. X crumbles fast without his body reading skill. He has it here though, and Cap has no way to shut it down.

Originally posted by cdtm
Cass's body reading makes her unhittable, sans pis or a comparable skill (Like Shiva has.)

The version of Judomaster I'm thinking of, from JSA's "Gog" story, could only he hit via area attack. A richotte shot is still an aimed shot.

And yeah, Mr. X crumbles fast without his body reading skill. He has it here though, and Cap has no way to shut it down.

He does, he will outlast them, they will get tired before they do damage to Ult Cap. Then Steve one shots them.

For most people Cap America is the dividing line between streets and low meta. So if a character can stomp him or beat him with another decent street, than that character isn't really street. For example Rose Tattoo doesn't even have a body in the traditional sense, being a spirit of murder that can be reincarnated. She also can basically create any weapon to destroy anyone. How is that remotely close to a tier where everyone else can be taken out by bullets?

If a character can turn into mist and is immortal like Backlash or can tank bullets forever w/out any damage, then that character isn't close to street level.

While Cassandra Cain is extremely fast, even said to have metahuman aggregate speed--she is not unhittable in a fight. She's not the Flash or even Quicksilver.

Originally posted by cdtm
Cass's body reading makes her unhittable, sans pis or a comparable skill

There is nothing but hyperbole to back that up. It doesn't fly against 616 Steve at all.

Originally posted by Juk3n
There is nothing but hyperbole to back that up. It doesn't fly against 616 Steve at all.

Not hyperbole at all:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/18863/1503015-bulletdancexq4.jpg

Cass's uber body reading and Mr. X's mind reading accomplish the same thing. Precognitive defense.

Neither of them are perfect, and don't work in every situation, but against Steve they should work just fine.

Pretty agile

Originally posted by cdtm
Not hyperbole at all:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/18863/1503015-bulletdancexq4.jpg

Cass's uber body reading and Mr. X's mind reading accomplish the same thing. Precognitive defense.

Neither of them are perfect, and don't work in every situation, but against Steve they should work just fine.

Steve beats her in a h2h fight. Every time. Those type of dodge feats are remarkable. Elektra has swatted bullets out of the sky with the tiny surface area of her sais, that too is remarkable reaction and perception, it doesn't mean she cant get hit. Why dont you tell deathstroke that Cassie is unhittable. Bullet timers get hit. And you're starting to sound like H1 and his "Spider-man is un taggable" babble.

Bump

Black Panther
Elektra
Non Jobbing Taskmaster

Elektra be above street made BP too

Elektra defiantly is not above street

She's below DD

And outside of KOTD panther how is he above street?

Doesn't he have super strength even if just a bit?

batman, cassie cain, nightwing