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h2h only, no weapons or exotic powers. And no bfr.

Thor wins easily.

Creed wins easily.

I'm assuming that we're using adamantium sabretooth? If we're not, then there's nothing that creed can do to affect thor.

Originally posted by deathslash
I'm assuming that we're using adamantium sabretooth? If we're not, then there's nothing that creed can do to affect thor.

Yes, adamantium.

Adamantium? Is this version of Sabretooth literally made of the stuff? Since if it is just coating his bones like Wolverine it won't matter.

Originally posted by Surtur
Adamantium? Is this version of Sabretooth literally made of the stuff? Since if it is just coating his bones like Wolverine it won't matter.

His strength, speed and HF were also ramped up.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
His strength, speed and HF were also ramped up.

To what levels?

Originally posted by Surtur
To what levels?

To the point where Wolverine lost a fight, instead of winning it.

Nowhere near the levels that would threaten Thor.

Even with Adamantium Creed still wouldnt be able to do any real damage. Mism ass tch.

Thor grabs him by the ankle and slams him head first into the ground until he passes out or gives up.

Thor grabs him by whatever he wants and slings him so hard,, the flesh comes off his bones. This should be locked.

No disrespect intended, but this could the worst post ever.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Thor grabs him by whatever he wants and slings him so hard,, the flesh comes off his bones. This should be locked.

It's a fair match. As -K-M- and others have said, Logan and Creed routinely fighting, and defeating, cl100's is nothing new.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
No disrespect intended, but this could the worst post ever.

I was thinking it over, and the Logan supporters kind of have a point. How many times has he beaten Namor? Then you have Daken carving up Skaar.. Sure, with hf inhibiting claws, but Thor doesn't have a hf on that level.

Then -K-M- mentions Herc losing to Creed at contest of champions, and a good percentage seems to think Timber Wolf would struggle, and he's in the cl100 category..

Personally, I think Thor wins, but if it's accepted Logan, Creed, and peers can fight heavy hitters, then this match is as valid as any on KMC, and up for debate

And to be fair, Creed not only has insane regen feats, but an agility and speed advantage. I picked him over Logan because he's much stronger, and was wondering if it's enough to hurt him.

Yeah, but for every instance of Wolverine cutting Class 100's don't you have things like..Gladiator snapping one of his claws off?

Originally posted by deathslash
I'm assuming that we're using adamantium sabretooth? If we're not, then there's nothing that creed can do to affect thor.

Honestly, wouldn't be surprised if organic claws worked on Thor.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah, but for every instance of Wolverine cutting Class 100's don't you have things like..Gladiator snapping one of his claws off?

Non-canon.

If you wanna use non-canon instances, then why not bring up Wolverine chopping off IG Thanos' arm off?

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Wolverine's speed was enough to give Thor major problems. Creed is faster and he kept getting speed boosts. He wrecks Thor.

Creed dies.

Didn't Logan's claws only leave superficial scratches on Thor's face? He stomps a mudhole in Creed.

Originally posted by cdtm
Sure, with hf inhibiting claws

Only 2 of his claws were muramasa-laced. The rest were standard black bone.

Not the first time we are shown that even without miracle metals covering them, they can do plenty of damage.

He also sliced Ares' war cleaver in half with the bone claws. Stabbed Pluto...

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Didn't Logan's claws only leave superficial scratches on Thor's face? He stomps a mudhole in Creed.

He did much more damage in the actual fight, cutting through the chainmail.

Logan has also stabbed cleanly through Gladiator.

Originally posted by cdtm
Then -K-M- mentions Herc losing to Creed at contest of champions, and a good percentage seems to think Timber Wolf would struggle, and he's in the cl100 category..

Wolverine did it, but also said I couldn't remember all the details

Yeah, it happened. Wolverine was in kept in a perpetual berserker state, but he was adamantium-less.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Honestly, wouldn't be surprised if organic claws worked on Thor.



Non-canon.

If you wanna use non-canon instances, then why not bring up Wolverine chopping off IG Thanos' arm off?

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Wolverine's speed was enough to give Thor major problems. Creed is faster and he kept getting speed boosts. He wrecks Thor.

I don't want to use non-canon instances, it is just hard to keep track of Gladiators canon feats. Well for me anyways.

Heh. True.

Like his fights with Thor. Only 1 is canon to 616 Gladiator, afaik. The other is Glads from the future or something.

Creed wins this.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, it happened. Wolverine was in kept in a perpetual berserker state, but he was adamantium-less.

Right right. That's what it was. Thanks for the jog in memory

Originally posted by carver9
Creed wins this.
Wins a beat down.

Thor wins 10/10. IMO guys like Wolverine giving cl 100s trouble is just as much PIS as Deathstroke tagging members of the Flash family.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor wins 10/10. IMO guys like Wolverine giving cl 100s trouble is just as much PIS as Deathstroke tagging members of the Flash family.

Shhhhh !!!

This thread is funneee..

Well, Wolverine was always created to fight the Hulk.

Sabes is just meant to be a stronger/more savage version.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, Wolverine was always created to fight the Hulk.

Sabes is just meant to be a stronger/more savage version.



I mentioned it before, but before Avengers 2 came out and they were running Hulk along with all the Marvel movies on TV, the host mentioned this fact to Stan Lee. And Stan bursts out laughing, rambling "Are you kidding me?? Wolverine can't fight Hulk, Hulk would just step on him!"

The announcer looks almost embarrassed for him.

I find his beating Hulk more problematic then a normal Class 100 brick because most bricks don't have healing factors on the level of Hulk, so even if Wolverine shanks him that shouldn't be the end.

Odinson 10/10

Stomp

So far I haven't seen anything from the Creed side that suggests any other outcome.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Odinson 10/10

Stomp

So far I haven't seen anything from the Creed side that suggests any other outcome. may you please tell me why creed loses this fight. With his speed, skill, healing factor, and adamantium claws, shouldn't he win?

Base Creed got a hole punched through him and it only made him smile.

Here, we have Sabes at his prime... after several upgrades, including (but not limited to) his healing factor.

Originally posted by deathslash
may you please tell me why creed loses this fight. With his speed, skill, healing factor, and adamantium claws, shouldn't he win?

No, he shouldn't win.

This "fight" lasts only as long as Thor allows it to. The second he's serious it ends.

Give Thor all his powers and mjolnir and he might win a couple.

Please lock this absurd thread.

Thor can amp if pissed strength wise. Hulk caused Wolverine brain damage could Thor do the same to Sabretooth?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Base Creed got a hole punched through him and it only made him smile.

Here, we have Sabes at his prime... after several upgrades, including (but not limited to) his healing factor.
Who's he beaten with this version? Let's get to the bottom of this.

Originally posted by deathslash
may you please tell me why creed loses this fight. With his speed, skill, healing factor, and adamantium claws, shouldn't he win?
If you have to ask that question, then no matter what I say won't matter.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Who's he beaten with this version? Let's get to the bottom of this.

He's beaten Wolverine who was owning the shit out of Thor in hand-to-hand.

Originally posted by golem370
Thor can amp if pissed strength wise. Hulk caused Wolverine brain damage could Thor do the same to Sabretooth?
Thor can amp up with anger? You mean warrior madness?.
Hulk's size,the size of his arms and his HF allowed him do that to wolverine,hulk lost his eyes doing that too. This iis closer than people think

Originally posted by cdtm
I was thinking it over, and the Logan supporters kind of have a point. How many times has he beaten Namor? Then you have Daken carving up Skaar.. Sure, with hf inhibiting claws, but Thor doesn't have a hf on that level.

Then -K-M- mentions Herc losing to Creed at contest of champions, and a good percentage seems to think Timber Wolf would struggle, and he's in the cl100 category..

Personally, I think Thor wins, but if it's accepted Logan, Creed, and peers can fight heavy hitters, then this match is as valid as any on KMC, and up for debate

And to be fair, Creed not only has insane regen feats, but an agility and speed advantage. I picked him over Logan because he's much stronger, and was wondering if it's enough to hurt him.

Pretty sure namor smashed every organ in logan's body last they met.

But yea,guys like daken,wolverine and sabertooth use claws and stuff,they don't use brawling tactis so taking on class 100s isn't that much of a problem,the only issue is if they can damage their opponent,and if they r fast enough to hit him.

Sabertooth can do both,but he would still lose,but it won't be a stomp

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He's beaten Wolverine who was owning the shit out of Thor in hand-to-hand.
Should I even reply to an answer like this?

Deny it all you want, it happened.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Deny it all you want, it happened.
Deny what? What fight are you referencing? And how was Wolverine "owning the shiet" out of him?

The only fight they had.

He was faster than Thor, delivered numerous strikes and left Thor no choice but to use flight and lightning combo.

Thor fans still in denial about his admitted inferior speed to Logan?

They should've seen his speed against Ian Rogers.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The only fight they had.

He was faster than Thor, delivered numerous strikes and left Thor no choice but to use flight and lightning combo.
facepalm

Good job on referencing a fight where Thor was completely holding back.

And yeah Thor stating he was "faster" was more lip service than anything. I mean come on... He parried a freaking sneak attack where Wolverine got the drop on him, parried a separate attack, and swatted him with Mjolnir. And for the lulz he grabbed a supposedly much faster opponent by the ankle then tossed him away for crying out loud. Keep in mind he was holding back the whole time because he knew Wolverine was being tricked in some way. Do you really think Thor was swinging as hard and as fast as he can or even remotely close to a point where he can seriously injure an opponent way below his league? Even I know you don't believe that. I think you better reread the book before you come out here claiming Wolverine was "owning the shiet" out of Thor.


As far as arguments go, that's a pretty flimsy one you have. Try again.

It was stated that Logan holds the speed advantage in the interview, too

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It was stated that Logan holds the speed advantage in the interview, too
Post it. I want to see the excuses for that.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It was stated that Logan holds the speed advantage in the interview, too
Ok good or you. How does that negate what actually happened on panel and bolster your stance of "owning the shiet" out of Thor?

And let's get back to the topic at hand so as not to lose sight of what this back and forth came out of. Who has this version of Creed beaten to even entertain the idea of beating Thor w/o Mjolnir? Because as far as I'm concerned what you gave as a reason is quite lacking..

Originally posted by abhilegend
Post it. I want to see the excuses for that.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22487

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22487
Good.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ok good or you. How does that negate what actually happened on panel and bolster your stance of "owning the shiet" out of Thor?

And let's get back to the topic at hand so as not to lose sight of what this back and forth came out of. Who has this version of Creed beaten to even entertain the idea of beating Thor w/o Mjolnir? Because as far as I'm concerned what you gave as a reason is quite lacking..



On panel, Thor was nursing his wounds, admitted Logan is faster, admitted his durability won't save him for long, resorted to flying and ranged attacks...

Creed has beaten Mr. Sinister's "Supermen", Omega Red, Wendigo... more than enough to handle a slow Class 100 brick with no skill to speak of and weak durability against piercing damage.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
On panel, Thor was nursing his wounds, admitted Logan is faster, admitted his durability won't save him for long, resorted to flying and ranged attacks...

Creed has beaten Mr. Sinister's "Supermen", Omega Red, Wendigo... more than enough to handle a slow Class 100 brick with no skill to speak of and weak durability against piercing damage.
See now we're talking.
How powerful are these "Supermen". Omega Red is ok. Wendigo is iffy sometimes since not all wendigos are created equal. There are some really crappy ones and I mean crappy. Still don't see anyone on that list who Thor would destroy. And lol at "slow class 100".

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
How powerful are these "Supermen".

1. http://s662.photobucket.com/user/jinzin2008/media/sinistersupermencapabile1.jpg.html

2. http://s662.photobucket.com/user/jinzin2008/media/sinistersupermencapabile2.jpg.html

3. http://s662.photobucket.com/user/jinzin2008/media/sinistersupermencapabile3.jpg.html

And the Wendigo that Creed beat was strong enough to rape Sasquatch.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
1. http://s662.photobucket.com/user/jinzin2008/media/sinistersupermencapabile1.jpg.html

2. http://s662.photobucket.com/user/jinzin2008/media/sinistersupermencapabile2.jpg.html

3. http://s662.photobucket.com/user/jinzin2008/media/sinistersupermencapabile3.jpg.html

And the Wendigo that Creed beat was strong enough to rape Sasquatch.
Mind posting Sabertooth vs Supermen and vs Wendigo? And what have these Supermen done that is impressive besides losing to a meta?

Dont frett. I'll throw you some scans.

Lets not forget Thors damage soak and the fact that Logans claws are much longer and more lethal, and those didnt exactly go through Thor like a hot knife through butter. With sabes claws and thor's density and mass were talking alot of flesh wounds. Shit Thor fights through in his sleep.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Mind posting Sabertooth vs Supermen and vs Wendigo? And what have these Supermen done that is impressive besides losing to a meta?

Dont frett. I'll throw you some scans.



Everything is on this page.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=509407&pagenumber=5

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Lets not forget Thors damage soak and the fact that Logans claws are much longer and more lethal, and those didnt exactly go through Thor like a hot knife through butter.

Managed to significantly hurt him even through the asgardian chainmail, though.

Thor wins.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I keep repeating myself because everybody including my mom ignores me.

We know, Silent. Now log out.

Creed is gonna win this fight. He's undeniably faster than thor, has unbreakable bones, has a healing factor to keep in the fight longer, and has claws that can cut through almost anything. Victor has taken punches from characters like rouge, colossus, Luke cage, etc. and has still been just fine even without an adamantium skeleton. Just because logan couldn't beat thor, that doesn't mean that his faster, stronger, and all around better adversary can't.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, Wolverine was always created to fight the Hulk.

Sabes is just meant to be a stronger/more savage version. tbf the Hulk Wolverjerk was created to fight would also get rofl stomped by a more current version of Thor.

http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/21501432_Avengers__X-Men_-_Axis_008-007.jpg http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/21501437_Avengers__X-Men_-_Axis_008-008.jpg http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/21501442_Avengers__X-Men_-_Axis_008-009.jpg http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/21501445_Avengers__X-Men_-_Axis_008-010.jpg http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/21501448_Avengers__X-Men_-_Axis_008-011.jpg http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/21501451_Avengers__X-Men_-_Axis_008-012.jpg http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/21501454_Avengers__X-Men_-_Axis_008-013.jpg

Originally posted by deathslash
Creed is gonna win this fight. He's undeniably faster than thor, has unbreakable bones, has a healing factor to keep in the fight longer, and has claws that can cut through almost anything. Victor has taken punches from characters like rouge, colossus, Luke cage, etc. and has still been just fine even without an adamantium skeleton. Just because logan couldn't beat thor, that doesn't mean that his faster, stronger, and all around better adversary can't.



Ignore list away!

Amazed people are still this ignorant with such a comprehensive respect thread around.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And the Wendigo that Creed beat was strong enough to rape Sasquatch.

Well technically Wendigo attacked him from behind and Walter was already severally wounded prior to the fight. Nor did he want a fight, he was trying to help Wendigo and protect him. Context

Originally posted by -K-M-
Well technically Wendigo attacked him from behind and Walter was already severally wounded prior to the fight.



Plus the scans show Squatch wasn't outright beaten by Sabes. He serendipitously fell in a trap after he was "owning the shiet" out of Creed.

Never said he was.

Thor is just too powerful. His damage soak is far above a normal Sasquatch, and they really aren't in the same weight class (Thor and Sasquatch). Creed is a monster in this form, but Thor could literally fold a town up on him. People have to remember just how much damage Thor can take. Thanos punched him and he was able to get up (Ref. Avengers vs Cabal). He fought the Surfer evenly with an extradimensional wound that was killing him. I'm not saying that Creed wasn't monstrous, but his HF, and extra hardware would only get him so far.

Why is this thread not locked? Creed has no chance here.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Why is this thread not locked? Creed has no chance here.

I am embarassed for the KMC community. You all are better than this. No version of Creed beats any version of Thor, EOS.

Originally posted by Mindset
Give Thor all his powers and mjolnir and he might win a couple.

Given all that has been said here I'm struggling to see how Sabretooth could beat Thor wielding his full powers and hammer?

To be fair Thor is faster than Creed in arm movement speed vs. Creeds body movement speed, not to mention reflexes. Plus Thor's strength is immense in a forum. One good punch and Creed is koed. In a comic Thor would have a slight problem without his hammer but not in a forum.

Another joke thread?!

Loving how people pretend Mongoose and Man-Beast didn't happen.

Nerfed Thor gets raped, plain and simple.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Loving how people pretend Mongoose and Man-Beast didn't happen.

Nerfed Thor gets raped, plain and simple. Thor in a forum is not on the level he is when he fought Mongoose or Man-Beast. So yes we can pretend it didn't happen. Thor's much faster, stronger, and more durable. He one shots Creed with relative ease. Thor at his lows wasn't even class 100 and super slow (CA is even faster). Thor at his best and Creed is an insect.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Loving how people pretend Mongoose and Man-Beast didn't happen.

Nerfed Thor gets raped, plain and simple.
Man-Beast? Wut he do?

Thor is GOING to catch Sabertooth. Hes tagged far faster and in a comic its just gonna happen regardless. Im more than willing to bet Thor's going to get his hands on sabes before he can somehow do enough damage to get past Thor's legendary damage soak

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Thor is GOING to catch Sabertooth. Hes tagged far faster and in a comic its just gonna happen regardless. Im more than willing to bet Thor's going to get his hands on sabes before he can somehow do enough damage to get past Thor's legendary damage soak while it's true that Thor has caught faster characters than sabretooth, this rule also applies for creed. He dodged attacks from far faster things than thor. Also, what exactly is thor gonna do when he catches creed? It's not like he can tear off his limbs or punch a hole in his body. Creed has an adamantium skeleton in this fight. People need to realize that a powerful as thor is, in this fight he's just a brick. This is basically a brick against an all around more powerful version of wolverine. Also, damage soak isn't gonna count for sh*t when Victor goes for Thor's vital points.

Originally posted by deathslash
while it's true that Thor has caught faster characters than sabretooth, this rule also applies for creed. He dodged attacks from far faster things than thor. Also, what exactly is thor gonna do when he catches creed? It's not like he can tear off his limbs or punch a hole in his body. Creed has an adamantium skeleton in this fight. People need to realize that a powerful as thor is, in this fight he's just a brick. This is basically a brick against an all around more powerful version of wolverine. Also, damage soak isn't gonna count for sh*t when Victor goes for Thor's vital points.

I thought adamantium Sabes was unlike Wolvie, in that his ligaments and cartilage etc wasn't bonded with adamantium. May be wrong, though.

Originally posted by deathslash
while it's true that Thor has caught faster characters than sabretooth, this rule also applies for creed. He dodged attacks from far faster things than thor. Also, what exactly is thor gonna do when he catches creed? It's not like he can tear off his limbs or punch a hole in his body. Creed has an adamantium skeleton in this fight. People need to realize that a powerful as thor is, in this fight he's just a brick. This is basically a brick against an all around more powerful version of wolverine. Also, damage soak isn't gonna count for sh*t when Victor goes for Thor's vital points.

He could simply ko him ftw or just pound him on the head so hard it drives his body into the ground like a nail, counting as incapacitation. Thor isnt your average brick and has shown alot better durability against logans claws than other bricks. Sabretooth's claws simply wont be as effective as logan's foot long pigstickers.

Originally posted by deathslash
while it's true that Thor has caught faster characters than sabretooth, this rule also applies for creed. He dodged attacks from far faster things than thor. Also, what exactly is thor gonna do when he catches creed? It's not like he can tear off his limbs or punch a hole in his body. Creed has an adamantium skeleton in this fight. People need to realize that a powerful as thor is, in this fight he's just a brick. This is basically a brick against an all around more powerful version of wolverine. Also, damage soak isn't gonna count for sh*t when Victor goes for Thor's vital points.
Just a brick with great fighting skill, vastly superior strength, vastly superior durability, and a damage soak that just won't quit. Lol at vital points. Thor has waded through piercing and cutting damage that makes what Creed can produce seem like it's for the little leagues.

And why can't he tear his limbs off? I'm not arguing he will, but why wouldn't he be able to do it if he so desired?

Thor would win in the end, but with adamantium I could definitely see Creed making a fight of it h2h. Thor doesn't wade into a fight going all out so he'd def take some damage before he started swinging for the fences but once he went into "187 mode" he'd be too much for Creed. Victor could prob even pull the occasional upset if he got in a lucky combo or 2 and Thor waited too long to get serious.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Thor would win in the end, but with adamantium I could definitely see Creed making a fight of it h2h. Thor doesn't wade into a fight going all out so he'd def take some damage before he started swinging for the fences but once he went into "187 mode" he'd be too much for Creed. Victor could prob even pull the occasional upset if he got in a lucky combo or 2 and Thor waited too long to get serious.
Whoah! Haven't seen your name in minute.

Yup been a while lol

Anyone remember this?

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk/HulkRespect19aWolverineOrigins28.jpg

Since Thor was Savage Hulk's rough equal in strength:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorStrength19Defenders10.jpg

Makes you wonder what would happen to Creed if Thor were to land a solid punch.

Wolverine has also tanked hits from Hulk too. Just going by one scan is faulty. I have no problem giving Thor the majority, but don't agree with some of the arguments

In addition the scene is debatable if it's canon. As it's supposed to be a retelling of Wolverine's first mission against Hulk and Wendigo but it diverged fairly significant from Hulk #181 (Vol.2)

Originally posted by One-Punch
Anyone remember this?

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk/HulkRespect19aWolverineOrigins28.jpg

Since Thor was Savage Hulk's rough equal in strength:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorStrength19Defenders10.jpg

Makes you wonder what would happen to Creed if Thor were to land a solid punch.

If? LOL. Thor is more agile than the Hulk due to having a smaller frame. He would hit him, and Creed would be out for the count. This is Thor, not She Hulk, and it's his fight to lose. He would immediately have the advantage and could keep Creed at bay by just using the environment as weapons alone. Creed takes longer to tire than a human, but Thor can fight for years without stopping. So, while Creed began to tire, Thor would still be fresh. Odinson has nearly every physical advantage here. One boulder throw hitting Creed at incredible speeds would knock the starch out of him, and then it's all gravy.

Just considering the length of Creed's claws to the massive frame, durability and damage soak of Thor. We're talking little more than flesh wounds here compared to what Thor has kept fighting through.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Just considering the length of Creed's claws to the massive frame, durability and damage soak of Thor. We're talking little more than flesh wounds here compared to what Thor has kept fighting through.

I know right? And Odinson has a far shorter fuse than he did back in the good old days. Creed would likely shit himself in this fight.

Originally posted by Mindset
Give Thor all his powers and mjolnir and he might win a couple.

When Wolverine hit Thor in the face, withhis claws, it looked like a cat scratched him. This is a joke. Thor punches Creed in his chest so hard that his brains come out of his eye and nose holes. Hell, his eyes and nose and face come off his adamantine skull, which would probably get dented at the least.

Thor could simply punch the ground with all his strength and destroy the entire continent they are on. Creed aint dodging that.

There is no way Creed can win here. Yall stick to those stupid Mongoose showings all you want. Thor constantly throws and catches an object at ftl as well as fly and has defeated characters much faster than Creed. How bout Thor hurls a Buick at Sabes at 900,000,000 mph. Could he dodge that?

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
When Wolverine hit Thor in the face, withhis claws, it looked like a cat scratched him. This is a joke. Thor punches Creed in his chest so hard that his brains come out of his eye and nose holes. Hell, his eyes and nose and face come off his adamantine skull, which would probably get dented at the least.

Thor could simply punch the ground with all his strength and destroy the entire continent they are on. Creed aint dodging that.

There is no way Creed can win here. Yall stick to those stupid Mongoose showings all you want. Thor constantly throws and catches an object at ftl as well as fly and has defeated characters much faster than Creed. How bout Thor hurls a Buick at Sabes at 900,000,000 mph. Could he dodge that? Although I think this is a stomp is favor of Thor. Mjolnir often isn't throw ftl nor returns ftl or anything close to that. Too many characters have dodged or blocked Mjolnir in flight. Thor catching characters who once shown speed doesn't mean those characters were using their top speed against him at the time. Remember Thor has moved as fast or faster than a bullet yet Logan, Spider-man has danced around him like he's super slow.

In a forum, Thor is very fast (faster than Creed) but not quicksilver or Superman fast.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor wins 10/10. IMO guys like Wolverine giving cl 100s trouble is just as much PIS as Deathstroke tagging members of the Flash family.

http://i.imgur.com/4i5EK.gif

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
When Wolverine hit Thor in the face, withhis claws, it looked like a cat scratched him.

More like a tiger.

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7492/woundedj.jpg

@Stilt
So Wut did Man-Beast do?

Fought Thor in h2h and shocked him with his skills. There was even a panel with Thor's "oh sheeeeeit" face

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Fought Thor in h2h and shocked him with his skills. There was even a panel with Thor's "oh sheeeeeit" face
Hmmm...



I sincerely hope you're not talking about this guy. He was also stated to have knowledge of a million years advanced form of every of combat(stupid I know). He's also used his mental abilities to strike Thor's pressure points in a previous fight which did absolutely nothing. See what a super strong, super fast, clawed individual can muster against Thor in pure h2h. Keep in mind Odinson currently has an nigh indestructible black uru arm that can literally one-shot guys in Sabe's level upgraded or not.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
One of the High Evolutionary's more physically powerful creations Karnivore(Man-Beast), was dominated by Thor not using Mjolnir. This guy can go rounds with top tiers like Hulk and Adam Warlock. He was even seen ripping the High Evolutionary apart.
http://i.imgur.com/W8rZpGd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oNIjZcE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5qcJGD5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zTScj8h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JlhP7Q0.jpg

You better have something better than this.

I actually had an earlier fight between them in mind, but hey, this one will do.

The reason why I brought it up is because Wolverine absolutely stomped Man-Beast - who was wearing High Evolutionary's armor at the time - in one page:

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4343/wfc4cakedcp030.th.jpg

MB fled right after that.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
More like a tiger.

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7492/woundedj.jpg

I was referring to the ones he got on his face. Forgot about that one. More like snow leapord.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I actually had an earlier fight between them in mind, but hey, this one will do.

The reason why I brought it up is because Wolverine absolutely stomped Man-Beast - who was wearing High Evolutionary's armor at the time - in one page:

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4343/wfc4cakedcp030.th.jpg

MB fled right after that.
Yep. I am aware of that scan, but they never really fought. Man-beast was really dumbfounded by the fact his mind blasts were not working on him. Probably because his powers are "hate" empowered(stupid I know). He fled after that slash.
Still doesn't discount Man-Beast going rounds with Savage Hulk, Adam Warlock, and Iron Man. That showing borders on PIS, but I'll accept it.. Somewhat...

And why are Wolvie's feats being used for Sabes?

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I was referring to the ones he got on his face. Forgot about that one. More like snow leapord.

I know what you were referring to and it's hardly relevant since Wolverine thought he was surrounded in a bar by Apocalypse, Sinister, Creed, Deathstrike and other villains... just swiped once and got away.

In the actual fight, he penetrated asgardian leather, chainmail and flesh several times.

You can't just choose one panel and ignore everything else. If we did that, then Colossus, Fully TO Cable, Exodus, WWH would've been considered highly resistant to adamantium claws on this board - and they're not. Why? Because after 1 failed strike, Wolverine cut the shit out of them.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yep. I am aware of that scan, but they never really fought. Man-beast was really dumbfounded by the fact his mind blasts were not working on him. Probably because his powers are "hate" empowered(stupid I know). He fled after that slash.
Still doesn't discount Man-Beast going rounds with Savage Hulk, Adam Warlock, and Iron Man.

"Pure rage", "predator more perfect than myself", he was pretty impressed in general. He was lucky Wolverine didn't tear his pants as he ran away, would've been even more embarrassing

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That showing borders on PIS, but I'll accept it.. Somewhat...

And why are Wolvie's feats being used for Sabes?



Simple - because Creed was always faster, stronger and tougher than Logan - and kept getting upgrades.

Like the full system so-called "turbo" upgrade from his son.

Or him recovering from the brain trauma which made him more dangerous than before in many ways...

Or new Weapon X.

Wolverines claws are several times the length of Sabes claws, which means that Creeds one and only chance of hurting Thor is going to be very minor flesh wounds, while anything Thor does will be a one shot.

^That's what I keep saying. Sabes chances are WORSE than Logans.

Sabertooth dies.

Sabes chances are zero percent.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Simple - because Creed was always faster, stronger and tougher than Logan - and kept getting upgrades.

Like the full system so-called "turbo" upgrade from his son.

Or him recovering from the brain trauma which made him more dangerous than before in many ways...

Or new Weapon X.

He isn't tougher than Logan and Thor utterly stomps.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
"Pure rage", "predator more perfect than myself", he was pretty impressed in general. He was lucky Wolverine didn't tear his pants as he ran away, would've been even more embarrassing

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Simple - because Creed was always faster, stronger and tougher than Logan - and kept getting upgrades.

Like the full system so-called "turbo" upgrade from his son.

Or him recovering from the brain trauma which made him more dangerous than before in many ways...

Or new Weapon X.
So what's the point of your scan other than an attempt to lowball Man-Beast since you believe that Creed > Logan anyway? Seems like a thinly veiled attempt to indirectly lowball Thor. And your whole comparison is faulty. Just stick to Sabertooth and stop using Wolverine's feats as an argument for him. They are two different characters.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
He isn't tougher than Logan and Thor utterly stomps.

He is.

http://s662.photobucket.com/user/jinzin2008/media/wolverinealmost.jpg.html

As always, you have no idea what you're talking about. Keep it up, Vet

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So what's the point of your scan other than an attempt to lowball Man-Beast since you believe that Creed > Logan anyway? Seems like a thinly veiled attempt to indirectly lowball Thor. And your whole comparison is faulty. Just stick to Sabertooth and stop using Wolverine's feats as an argument for him. They are two different characters.

Sabretooth is Logan's archnemesis. They have the same powerset, only major difference being Sabes' superiority. I get what you're saying, but it's pretty much impossible to avoid using Wolverine here.

Wolverine basically blitzed Man-Beast, tore apart the whole armor with MB being unable to react --- and Sabretooth is faster. Always has been, with the exception of 90s TAS. In fact, WX incarnation is much faster than pre-FA Wolverine, who hasn't undergone additional mutations.

Thor got cut up by MB. Creed will deliver much more damage.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Sabretooth is Logan's archnemesis. They have the same powerset, only major difference being Sabes' superiority. I get what you're saying, but it's pretty much impossible to avoid using Wolverine here.

Wolverine basically blitzed Man-Beast, tore apart the whole armor with MB being unable to react --- and Sabretooth is faster. Always has been, with the exception of 90s TAS. In fact, WX incarnation is much faster than pre-FA Wolverine, who hasn't undergone additional mutations.

Thor got cut up by MB. Creed will deliver much more damage.
Getting "cut up" by Man-Beast sure did mess him up.confused

http://i.imgur.com/zTScj8h.jpg.

Creed delivering more damage is debatable and somewhat moot considering Odinson's penchant for overcoming that kind of damage.

Being slashed, pierced and impaled is a minor issue for Thor most of the time dat divine physiology ftw

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I actually had an earlier fight between them in mind, but hey, this one will do.

The reason why I brought it up is because Wolverine absolutely stomped Man-Beast - who was wearing High Evolutionary's armor at the time - in one page:

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4343/wfc4cakedcp030.jpg

MB fled right after that. So you bring up Wolverine fighting High Evolutionary...

... how would you respond if people brought up Thor vs Gorr???

Yup, Creed has absolutely ly no chance here, how tgis thread wasnt closed for spite is beyond me

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Yup, Creed has absolutely ly no chance here, how tgis thread wasnt closed for spite is beyond me Not true at all. After all, these threads went on for hundreds of posts:

Wolverine & Sabertooth Vs. Thor (unarmed)
Thor vs. Wolverine
Thor vs Wolverine & Deadpool
Thor (Without Mjolnir) VS Wolverine ---Revised Thread

Not one of them closed for spite. Because, y'know... stabby-stabs are the great equalizer against high herald gods.

Does anyone have any scans of Thor thunderclapping? Because thunderclapping the flesh from Creeds bones would be a pretty good equalizer.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He is.

http://s662.photobucket.com/user/jinzin2008/media/wolverinealmost.jpg.html

As always, you have no idea what you're talking about. Keep it up, Vet



Sabretooth is Logan's archnemesis. They have the same powerset, only major difference being Sabes' superiority. I get what you're saying, but it's pretty much impossible to avoid using Wolverine here.

Wolverine basically blitzed Man-Beast, tore apart the whole armor with MB being unable to react --- and Sabretooth is faster. Always has been, with the exception of 90s TAS. In fact, WX incarnation is much faster than pre-FA Wolverine, who hasn't undergone additional mutations.

Thor got cut up by MB. Creed will deliver much more damage.


Lol, did you think you just proved he was tougher? You must have some sort of Creed fetish. Provide scans of his superior Toughness ranking or shut your cheerleader mouth.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Lol, did you think you just proved he was tougher? You must have some sort of Creed fetish. Provide scans of his superior Toughness ranking or shut your cheerleader mouth.

The impartial narrator stating that is not enough for you? Ok, then.

How about surviving a blackbird crash and looking way better than Wolverine, who was partially reduced to a skeleton...

You've been nothing but trouble - all you really do on KMC is:

a) wank Black Panther
b) pretend to be knowing what you're talking about (failing every single time at that)

Not to mention that you're most likely a sock...

Originally posted by ODG

... how would you respond if people brought up Thor vs Gorr???

Shit. Sabretooth is a housecat in comparison.

Gorr... Lord Voldemort's ripoff

Gorr...the being who stabbed Thor with a weapon designed to kill him multiple times, and who could fight at ftl and tank planet destroying hits, destroyed pantheons of gods that would make Creed and Logan shit themselves etc.etc.

Not quite as awe inspiring as a plane crash but he is still pretty powerful.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I got enough laugh already, seeing you cherry-picking the best panel vs. piercing dmg from the Manbeast fight

Ignoring, y'know, the bloody red ones. Typical.
What? I posted the whole fight for crying out loud? I reposted one scan just to show how he can power through that type of damage as was one of my main points from the get go.

Why you think I would used that scan as proof of his piercing durability is kind of dumb when I keep reiterating his damage soak to piercing/slashing attacks. You thought I was cherry picking? I haven't even begun with his showings against this type of damage.



Smh..

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The impartial narrator stating that is not enough for you? Ok, then.

How about surviving a blackbird crash and looking way better than Wolverine, who was partially reduced to a skeleton...

You've been nothing but trouble - all you really do on KMC is:

a) wank Black Panther
b) pretend to be knowing what you're talking about (failing every single time at that)

Not to mention that you're most likely a sock...




Sorry you've resorted to lying. I haven't mentioned BP in weeks, yet I post daily. Also, the whatever narrator didnt say he was tougher, genius, and even if he did, so what? Tougher is not a measurable attribute like strength and speed. So when you say Creed has always been "tougher" you need to understand that your opinion is not a fact. By the way, BP skins Creed alive then beheads him while you cry your eyes out, IMO.

A better fight would be Odinson Vs. Speedfreak with his Adamantium Blades and Armour.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What? I posted the whole fight for crying out loud? I reposted one scan just to show how he can power through that type of damage as was one of my main points from the get go.

Why you think I would used that scan as proof of his piercing durability is kind of dumb when I keep reiterating his damage soak to piercing/slashing attacks. You thought I was cherry picking? I haven't even begun with his showings against this type of damage.



Smh..


He's in attack mode frothing at the mouth with his back up against the wall.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Gorr... Lord Voldemort's ripoff

That's a perfect counter alright.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's a perfect counter alright.

We are witnessing historic butthurt.

Originally posted by Ionceknewu
A better fight would be Odinson Vs. Speedfreak with his Adamantium Blades and Armour.

I wouldn't say that. Speedfreak would have to land a sneak attack in order to have a chance. Thor could easily topple him by destroying the terrain.