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Movie feats only

Round 1: Khan gets all of his gear from the Klingon fight

Round 2: Hand to Hand.

Who wins?

Khan stomps in both.

Khan dies

Originally posted by Trocity
Khan dies Based on ?

I think Khan has a legitimate shot, Kenobi was getting torn up by Jangos missiles/slow moving binds on Kamino. Khans weaponry was scything through those Klingons from all angles, Kenobi didn't demonstrate the same speed as in The Phantom Menace.

Originally posted by carthage
I think Khan has a legitimate shot, Kenobi was getting torn up by Jangos missiles/slow moving binds on Kamino. Khans weaponry was scything through those Klingons from all angles, Kenobi didn't demonstrate the same speed as in The Phantom Menace. Not only that but Kenobi only demonstrated sprinting speed which isn't the same as combat speed.

Obi-Wan eviscerates Khan

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Obi-Wan eviscerates Khan Based on ?

Kenobi tears him apart.

This is Clearly a closer match than Khan vs. Yoda and Palpatine, who are Obvious stomps against Khan (not matter what quanchi says). Personally Id give Obi Wan the win in Fight 1, but probably Khan the win in Fight 2, both being quite close.

Originally posted by carthage
I think Khan has a legitimate shot, Kenobi was getting torn up by Jangos missiles/slow moving binds on Kamino. Khans weaponry was scything through those Klingons from all angles, Kenobi didn't demonstrate the same speed as in The Phantom Menace.


Yeah but Jango had to keep his distance at first, which he could only do using his flight pack. Khan has no flight capabilities. Khan has shown he can leap, but no where near as far, fast or high as Kenobi.

Khan also hasn't shown how well he can leap carrying his large gun, which is the only real threat to Kenobi here.

Finally note Kenobi's mission was to capture Jango for information. He was not allowed to kill him.


So as long as Kenobi doesn't hold back, he wins. As soon as he gets close (which he will) Khan is dead.

Heck I've already proven in the other thread that Khan can't even take Season 5 Ahsoka. But to be fair S5 Ahsoka is probably pretty close to AOTC Kenobi.

Originally posted by Stigma
Kenobi tears him apart. Based on ?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah but Jango had to keep his distance at first, which he could only do using his flight pack. Khan has no flight capabilities. Khan has shown he can leap, but no where near as far, fast or high as Kenobi.

Khan also hasn't shown how well he can leap carrying his large gun, which is the only real threat to Kenobi here.

Finally note Kenobi's mission was to capture Jango for information. He was not allowed to kill him.


So as long as Kenobi doesn't hold back, he wins. As soon as he gets close (which he will) Khan is dead.

Heck I've already proven in the other thread that Khan can't even take Season 5 Ahsoka. But to be fair S5 Ahsoka is probably pretty close to AOTC Kenobi. We meet at last in this topic, darth troll.

Khan can leap in combat with his phaser rifle not that he will need to since he has only one target with dual guns. You also admit the Boolean gun is a threat. How can Obi deflect this powerful gun ?

So what ? Vader didn't want to kill Han Solo either bout he beat him nonetheless. Hell, a blinded Han mistakenly killed Jango's great Boba Fett.

Kenobi fights like all Jedi. He held back against Anakin and almost killed him. He even warned Anakin against attacking him. So please quit withnthrnexcuses as I have canon instances which destroy your excuse trolling.

Khan wins, handily.

Khan gets sliced and diced

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Khan gets sliced and diced Based on ?

Cad Bane beat this chump.

Kenobi wins.

Originally posted by Stigma
Kenobi wins. Based on ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not only that but Kenobi only demonstrated sprinting speed which isn't the same as combat speed. he doesnt need combat speed to dodge and run from blaster fire, sprinting speed will do fine. Maybe he could even use that speed to close the gap. Does khan have any feats of percieving/shooting people moving as fast as kenobi in TPM?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ?

Cad Bane beat this chump. which movie was cad bane in? Or was he not in the movies but were now using feats from other sources? Is Wrath of Khan fair game?

Kenobi will leave Khan limbless.

Kenobi is also far stronger. At 1 hr 55 min into RotS, kenobi matched anakin in a test of strength when they grabbed each others wrists and neither was able to over power the other.

In AoTc at 19min 12sec Anakin jumps from the speeder kenobi is flying. He then proceeds to fall face down, in a free fall position, reaching near terminal velocity until he lands on the bounty hunters speeder, grabbing it and hanging on 15sec later at 19min 27. This strength/durability feat for Anakin is far beyond anything khan has shown. Kenobi on the other hand matched Anakin in a test of pure strength putting him solidly above khan as well.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_velocity

The part relevent to my post is pasted below.

Based on wind resistance, for example, the terminal velocity of a skydiver_in a belly-to-earth (i.e., face down_free-fall_position is about 195_km/h_(122_mph_or 54_m/s)._This velocity is the asymptotic_limiting value of the acceleration process, because the effective forces on the body balance each other more and more closely as the terminal velocity is approached. In this example, a speed of 50% of terminal velocity is reached after only about 3 seconds, while it takes 8 seconds to reach 90%, 15 seconds to reach 99% and so on.

Originally posted by Raptor22
he doesnt need combat speed to dodge and run from blaster fire, sprinting speed will do fine. Maybe he could even use that speed to close the gap. Does khan have any feats of percieving/shooting people moving as fast as kenobi in TPM? Kenobi has never used the speed in this manner. If he could use the speed in this manner you'd need an example outside the fact he ran from destroyer droids who lack the feats, skills, accuracy, and firepower of Khan.

heres a relevant example of Kenobi vs. a skilled gun wielding opponent.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMZdrUx8eM

Jango Fett vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi

1. 15 seconds in around 6 shots in before Jango uses his jet pack to create more distance. Jango's only has one gun that is both less powerful than Khan's laser cannon and fires slower than Khan's other laser rifle. I will later prove this claim with video evidence. Stay tuned.
2. 51 seconds in we see Jango lose his gun.
54 to 1:07 seconds in we see them fight hand to hand without their primary weapons and see how they fare against one another.
1:08 we see Obi not able to use his powers to end the fight but to retrieve his weapon due to needing it. It is painfully obvious Obi relies on his powers and doesn't have an advantage hand to hand. Obi is reacting as quickly as he can to the threat Jango poses with the skills and abilities he brings to this fight that vastly differ from a Sith or Jedi opponent. This makes it more relevant to this comparison than a Jedi vs. a Sith. Keep in mind we see both combatants lose their weapons thus resulting in an up close encounter. Jango also lacks Khan's skilled hand to hand combat, strength/feats, and his superior weaponry.

Originally posted by Raptor22
which movie was cad bane in? Or was he not in the movies but were now using feats from other sources? Is Wrath of Khan fair game? Jango was in the film and unlike Wrath of Khan the Clone Wars is canon to Kenobi. Wrath of Khan isn't canon to Into Darkness Khan since their experiences are different aka alternate timeline.

It's like using Kingdom Come Superman for New Earth Superman interchangeably. Alternate realities means completely different characters. I don't expect you to understand since you're not familiar with common sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kenobi has never used the speed in this manner. If he could use the speed in this manner you'd need an example outside the fact he ran from destroyer droids who lack the feats, skills, accuracy, and firepower of Khan.

heres a relevant example of Kenobi vs. a skilled gun wielding opponent.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMZdrUx8eM

Jango Fett vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi

1. 15 seconds in around 6 shots in before Jango uses his jet pack to create more distance. Jango's only has one gun that is both less powerful than Khan's laser cannon and fires slower than Khan's other laser rifle. I will later prove this claim with video evidence. Stay tuned.
2. 51 seconds in we see Jango lose his gun.
54 to 1:07 seconds in we see them fight hand to hand without their primary weapons and see how they fare against one another.
1:08 we see Obi not able to use his powers to end the fight but to retrieve his weapon due to needing it. It is painfully obvious Obi relies on his powers and doesn't have an advantage hand to hand. Obi is reacting as quickly as he can to the threat Jango poses with the skills and abilities he brings to this fight that vastly differ from a Sith or Jedi opponent. This makes it more relevant to this battlezone than a Jedi vs. a Sith. Keep in mind we see both combatants lose their weapons thus resulting in an up close encounter. Jango also lacks Khan's skilled hand to hand combat, strength/feats, and his superior weaponry. sorry but the fight he showed the speed in TPM is just as relevant as ur example, and since both fighters perform to the best of their abilities his speed is fair game. And since he was using that speed to avoid lasers blasts, which is what khan will be shooting at him it seems fairly relevant

Superior weaponry? Fetts jet pack, rocket launcher, and the ship mounted laser cannons fired by bobba dont seem inferior. Not to mention jangos armor helps in a hand to hand fight.

Also just because he lost his saber in that fight doesnt mean hes going to lose it here and have to throw down hand to hand like u seem to be implying.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Jango was in the film and unlike Wrath of Khan the Clone Wars is canon to Kenobi. Wrath of Khan isn't canon to Into Darkness Khan since their experiences are different aka alternate timeline.

It's like using Kingdom Come Superman for New Earth Superman interchangeably. Alternate realities means completely different characters. I don't expect you to understand since you're not familiar with common sense. so ur just going to go full retard on me right out of the gate? ok.

what does any of ur nonsense above have to do with u mentioning cad bane, a character kenobi fought in the tv show, in a vs match, in the MOVIE vs forum, with the stipulation in the opening post stating MOVIE versions only.


Quan- "cad bane beat this chump"

me- "which movie was cad bane in?"

Quan- "Jango was dur dur dur"

me- Quan ur a moron

Originally posted by Raptor22
sorry but the fight he showed the speed in TPM is just as relevant as ur example, and since both fighters perform to the best of their abilities his speed is fair game. And since he was using that speed to avoid lasers blasts, which is what khan will be shooting at him it seems fairly relevant

Superior weaponry? Fetts jet pack, rocket launcher, and the ship mounted laser cannons fired by bobba dont seem inferior. Not to mention jangos armor helps in a hand to hand fight.

Also just because he lost his saber in that fight doesnt mean hes going to lose it here and have to throw down hand to hand like u seem to be implying. No, you're taking the feat out of context and applying that speed and tactics in a manner never before seen possible by any Jedi. In TPM they ran away from a fight. He can run away from the fight to forfeit the matchup. That's exactly what they did.

Now when Kenobi was fighting and blocking saber blasts I already provided the relevant link. His armor slows him down and can't stop a lightsaber so very irrelevant. Kenobi's kicks didn't seem to hurt Anakin in ROTS so the armor is a real waste. Khan's Boolean gun and his phaser rifle are both more powerful and fire at a more rapid rate of discharge than Jango's blasters. Fett's weaponry didn't even damage the ground where it hit. Khan's weaponry took down ships when this overrated crap didn't even leave a damage in the ground.

It does mean that a powerful blasts even aimed in his direction would force him backward thus losing his saber. He was unable to get the saber back and despite your over exaggerated coordination/strength feat Khan is far stronger than Kenobi. Fett showed he was also a match for Kenobi whose strength is rather pedestrian but his athleticism can be enhanced by the force. So can Yoda's but that doesn't mean Yoda is some powerhouse by some far reaching fanboyism.

If this fight went hand to hand Khan would crush his skull.

What do u mean im using it in a way never before used by a jedi. He already used it in the exact manner im saying he will use it here. to avoid blaster bolts. Seem pretty cut and dry to me. Just because they ran away on a ship, when faced with a stalemate, with an unknown number of reinforcements coming, so they could continue their mission and report what happened doesn't mean he has to run away and self bfr here. Kenobi already showed he can run, perceive his surroundings, and react at those speeds, evidence by them running left down a corridor then appearing nigh instantly behind them means they would have had to turn right twice, perceiving and reacting to the turns. Making it fairly easy to run circles, literally and figuratively around the much slower khan.



The first sentence of ur next paragraph makes no sense, i think u went full retard again. As for the rest, maybe obi wans kicks did little damage because anakin is durable enough to take a 15 sec fall from a speeder land on another and be completely fine afterwards. the damage to the ground comparison is completly moot since u dont know what the ground of either the klingon planet or the kamino platform are made of or their durability. And taking out a ship with a blaster would be alot more impressive if kirk didnt take one out with a freaking fire hose tied to an empty gun.

A powerful blast aimed in his direction doesnt guarantee him losing his saber, far from it. Since the amount of blasts hes faced and not lost it dwarfs the time he has.

How is the strength feat exaggerated? I mean besides it being superior to anything khans physically done and u not wanting to count it.

How is fetts strength pedestrian? He has no physical feats outside of fighting kenobi, and almost matching kenobi who matched anakin is hardly pedestrian.

Anakins grip is strong enough to grab and hold onto to a speeder after falling for 15 sec, and he couldnt crush kenobis wrist or soft throat while trying his hardest. Lol at khan crushing his much harder skull with his comparatively weak girly hands/grip.

Originally posted by Raptor22
so ur just going to go full retard on me right out of the gate? ok.

what does any of ur nonsense above have to do with u mentioning cad bane, a character kenobi fought in the tv show, in a vs match, in the MOVIE vs forum, with the stipulation in the opening post stating MOVIE versions only.


Quan- "cad bane beat this chump"

me- "which movie was cad bane in?"

Quan- "Jango was dur dur dur"

me- Quan ur a moron So you want to insult me instead of rebutting my clear and consistent points.

Star Trek TV show is fair game so why wouldn't a Star Wars TV show not be considered fair game ? It's canon but I also provided a highly relevant example of Fett vs. Kenobi.

If you can't keep up with continuity then seek help against me, boy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you want to insult me instead of rebutting my clear and consistent points.

Star Trek TV show is fair game so why wouldn't a Star Wars TV show not be considered fair game ? It's canon but I also provided a highly relevant example of Fett vs. Kenobi.

If you can't keep up with continuity then seek help against me, boy. i didnt necessarily want to insult u but since u opened the personal door earlier, i figured id step thru with u.

Lol why isnt the show fair game? R u serious? Ill answer, even though i said it before, but this time im going to space the words out so u can hopefully read them slowly and maybe understand.

The thread starter stipulated in his opening post "movie feats only"

If u still dont get it i might have to ask carthage if he maybe can edit his opening post to make it simpler, maybe with smaller words so everyone can understand.


Damn it. I spaced the words out for u, but when i posted it, it condensed. Hopefully u can still figure it out.

Originally posted by Raptor22
What do u mean im using it in a way never before used by a jedi. He already used it in the exact manner im saying he will use it here. to avoid blaster bolts. Seem pretty cut and dry to me. Just because they ran away on a ship, when faced with a stalemate, with an unknown number of reinforcements coming, so they could continue their mission and report what happened doesn't mean he has to run away and self bfr here. Kenobi already showed he can run, perceive his surroundings, and react at those speeds, evidence by them running left down a corridor then appearing nigh instantly behind them means they would have had to turn right twice, perceiving and reacting to the turns. Making it fairly easy to run circles, literally and figuratively around the much slower khan.



The first sentence of ur next paragraph makes no sense, i think u went full retard again. As for the rest, maybe obi wans kicks did little damage because anakin is durable enough to take a 15 sec fall from a speeder land on another and be completely fine afterwards. the damage to the ground comparison is completly moot since u dont know what the ground of either the klingon planet or the kamino platform are made of or their durability. And taking out a ship with a blaster would be alot more impressive if kirk didnt take one out with a freaking fire hose tied to an empty gun.

A powerful blast aimed in his direction doesnt guarantee him losing his saber, far from it. Since the amount of blasts hes faced and not lost it dwarfs the time he has.

How is the strength feat exaggerated? I mean besides it being superior to anything khans physically done and u not wanting to count it.

How is fetts strength pedestrian? He has no physical feats outside of fighting kenobi, and almost matching kenobi who matched anakin is hardly pedestrian.

Anakins grip is strong enough to grab and hold onto to a speeder after falling for 15 sec, and he couldnt crush kenobis wrist or soft throat while trying his hardest. Lol at khan crushing his much harder skull with his comparatively weak girly hands/grip. Ok, I already explained why running away from a fight isn't relevant as running towards a fight which I supported with an in movie example against an opponent with a similar skill set to Khan. Look at it this way. They sprinted at max speed. Can a boxer sprint in the ring and react at these speeds ? Of course not. Man, am I really exceptional how I break this down to you lessers. You're making up a scenario in which we've never seen this play in this manner ever. That's what fanboys do; twist things into scripted never before seen feats.

You are definitely some sock who won't directly engage me but whatever, loser. Anakin was ko'd by Dooku's Lightning which is far less powerful than Sheev's. There are plenty of unknowns but Anakin and Obi have human bodies. We see that despite the weak kick it didn't harm him at all. Khan was so durable a person could wail on him with them tiring first. That's called durability. It exaggerating the Jedi because you're a fanboy. Everything is unknown when it comes to the alien materials or structures but we can easily tell by way if feats that Khan's Boolean gun is far more powerful.

That disabled a much smaller ship but the gun itself used had no effect on that different ship. The metal structure that was ripped out of the wall by the ships movement was something. But like I said the phaser blasts themselves had no effect on a smaller ship completely different than the Klingon ships.

The blast from the Boolean gun is wider and more powerful than the blaster fire the light sabers are accustomed to blocking.

It isn't relevant to combat strength. It's a coordination force feat which didn't help him out against Anakin a human being just like himself. Kenobi also looked rather pathetic against Fett as well. Khah crushes skulls, bro.

You're exaggerating. Plenty have fought Kenobi in the canon clone wars series. You want to pretend everyone is super strong which isn't the case. Kenobi showed his leg hurt when he kicked grievous. His strength was only human level but able to be force amped on occasion.

Thats because these two Jedi aren't impressive when it comes to physicality just highly skilled in saber fighting and somewhat capable with blasters. There is no proof his skull is denser just more ridiculous connecting of the fanboy dots. Khan crushes his skull. That feat blows weak Kenobi out of the water.

R u really as dense as ur acting. Show me where i said he would fight at that speed. Show anywhere that i said he would do anything but run away from the blasts or use it to close the gap.

when he does close the gap however, he would use his saber to dismember him. Since he's, how did u put it? Oh ya "highly skilled in saber fighting" and khan has no up close mele weapons he wont last long. Thankfully khan doesn't have a rocket launcher for an AoE attack or a son to shoot his ships lasers to disarm kenobi and help keep him from his saber.

Ur next line of reasoning is sheer genius tho. Because Anakin was only ko'd by lightning (after he got his arm cut off, which u left out) somehow means they have human bodies/durability. priceless. Never stop being u quan.

We might be able to determine which is more powerful if u provjded better than my guys gun blasted more of a material with unknown durability than your guys gun did to a different material of equally unknown durability, but i like my guy more so his is better.

Well its a good thing he wont be blocking it and will be evading its fire instead.

Im not sure what feat ur referring to when u say its not a combat strength feat. Some frame of reference would help.

To ur insistent lowballing with clone wars feats ill simply respond with-

Movie feats only #fullretard

Though kenobi has much better force, saber, speed, and strength feats in TCW. If its fair game i dont mind.

Oh and im no sock. Not sure why u would say that. But if u feel the need to compare me to footwear im less a sock and more akin to a boot kicking ur ass.

Originally posted by Raptor22
R u really as dense as ur acting. Show me where i said he would fight at that speed. Show anywhere that i said he would do anything but run away from the blasts or use it to close the gap.

when he does close the gap however, he would use his saber to dismember him. Since he's, how did u put it? Oh ya "highly skilled in saber fighting" and khan has no up close mele weapons he wont last long. Thankfully khan doesn't have a rocket launcher for an AoE attack or a son to shoot his ships lasers to disarm kenobi and help keep him from his saber.

Ur next line of reasoning is sheer genius tho. Because Anakin was only ko'd by lightning (after he got his arm cut off, which u left out) somehow means they have human bodies/durability. priceless. Never stop being u quan.

We might be able to determine which is more powerful if u provjded better than my guys gun blasted more of a material with unknown durability than your guys gun did to a different material of equally unknown durability, but i like my guy more so his is better.

Well its a good thing he wont be blocking it and will be evading its fire instead.

Im not sure what feat ur referring to when u say its not a combat strength feat. Some frame of reference would help.

To ur insistent lowballing with clone wars feats ill simply respond with-

Movie feats only #fullretard

Though kenobi has much better force, saber, speed, and strength feats in TCW. If its fair game i dont mind.

Oh and im no sock. Not sure why u would say that. But if u feel the need to compare me to footwear im less a sock and more akin to a boot kicking ur ass. So you concede he can't fight at this speed. I'm exceptional. I already gave you an example of how quickly he can press someone shooting at him aka the Jango Fett clip. It wasn't anywhere near as fast as his sprint away from battle with a peer speed. Quit ignoring my valid canon example with your made up delusional, fanboy wet dream.

Khah has superior weapons so why would he want to downgrade. I know he doesn't need the weapons to take out the weaker Kenobi but let's argue in character. Kenobi has been disarmed a lot. The force of Fett's weapons doesn't seem as powerful as Khan's Boolean gun or does Fett's blaster seem to fire anywhere near at a successive rate than the phaser rifle.

Ok, let's talk about the force Lightning prior to the ko. At the beginning of the fight Anakin charged in like the moron that he is and was harmed and out of the fight for a few minutes from weak Dooku force Lightning. The much more powerful force Lightning hit Luke for a much longer time frame and he walked away from it like a headache just went away.


They are human beings, genius.
Khan is the guy genetically proven to be superior to human beings not Kenobi. Kenobi's powers latch onto the force but he isn't a superhuman on his own and has to actively tap into the force in order to do so.

Based off what ? We see he couldn't evade Jango's initial blasts and that he needed to block the blasts. Khan has greater combat feats as well against far more opponents than Jango to boot.

The rule has been amended. Look in the rules where canon Star Trek feats from the show are included so why wouldn't Star Wars also apply here, dummy.

Kenobi has also been downright humiliated by other bounty hunters and his portrayal is worse in the series overall than it is in the films so let's do it, nerd.

You're a loser sock.

I want proof a saber can't block Khan Boolean gun. You made the claim over various threads and have not once proved that case. Not even close to proving it. Either provide the evidence or concede that is just your opinion

Further, Kenobi is simply above Khan in pretty much all areas. He brings things to the table Khan would've never experienced. Khan doesn't bring anything to the table Kenobi hasn't experienced. He's going to fire his weapons really fast!!!! Oh no, Kenobi has never seen this before!!! Derp... Oh wait, he has a storied history dealing with just that. Khan on the other hand, has ZERO experienced dealing with a force user. Game over

Lastly, what do you mean Khan's weapons are superior... Jango took out a huge beast with one shot. Khan's weapons didn't show that kinda damage output considering what he's fired at and what happened to them.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I want proof a saber can't block Khan Boolean gun. You made the claim over various threads and have not once proved that case. Not even close to proving it. Either provide the evidence or concede that is just your opinion

Further, Kenobi is simply above Khan in pretty much all areas. He brings things to the table Khan would've never experienced. Khan doesn't bring anything to the table Kenobi hasn't experienced. He's going to fire his weapons really fast!!!! Oh no, Kenobi has never seen this before!!! Derp... Oh wait, he has a storied history dealing with just that. Khan on the other hand, has ZERO experienced dealing with a force user. Game over

Lastly, what do you mean Khan's weapons are superior... Jango took out a huge beast with one shot. Khan's weapons didn't show that kinda damage output considering what he's fired at and what happened to them. There simply is no evidence the lightsabers can deflect something as wide and as powerful as the Boolean gun. It'd be like you saying prove it can't block the Death Star as ridiculous as it sounds the evidence doesn't support it can block anything just what it has blocked.

Kenobi went down to Cad Bane. His hand speed was greater than Kenobi's. Khan's feats and weaponry is too much for Kenobi. Since when has he ever blocked or deflected something capable of downing a Klingon ship with a single shot.

Khan takes down ships bit smaller, fleshy beasts. You're unbelievably stupid and an overall unlikeable, annoying person soon to be beat up by TI.

Cad bane beating Obi wan was due to luck. Cad bane had been disarmed twice by kenobi and knocked around way more times than kenobi.

Why would i concede to something that i never said or argued. ive told u this several times already and if u cant figure out my stance on the subject by know then u r right about one thing, u r exceptional. Exceptionaly simple minded. Or is it that ur so sad of a man it gets u off to get a concession from someone wether its baseless or not? honestly r u really that pathetic that u need that small gratification to feel good about yourself. but hey i like helping those beneath me so ill throw u a bone. sure ill concede that kenobi wont fight in a made up way that i never said he would. ill even conced that water is wet and fire is hot if it makes u feel better. i hope that helps and gives u the ego boost to at least get u thru the week. if not, pm me later in the week and ill toss u concessions to the fact that dogs bark and cats meow.

u can keep clinging to ur Jango example. The fact is kenobi has shown he can run that fast, and has used that speed to evade blaster firing foes just like he will be facing here. By all means continue with ur but, but, but he didnt run that fast against Jango, it changes nothing. He can and will here.

its nothing more than your opinion that khans gun is more powerful than fetts rocket launcher. lets stick to facts. thae fact that it has a faster rate of fire is moot. it would only be a factor if i was arguing that kenobi would block said blasts. What u have to prove is that khans first shot will clear the distance between him and kenobi, which im assuming to be the standard .5 km, faster than the droidekas blasts reached him from their relativley short distance from eachother. if u cant prove that khans blast is not only faster but so much faster that it can clear a much larger space and reach kenobi in less time than the droidekas then im afraid kenobis speed will be too much for poor slow khan. the follow up blasts will be just as useless since khan has no feats of percieving things as fast as kenobi can run.

not sure what ur really arguing here. is it that luke in RotJ is more powerful than anakin in AotC, so was able to handle lightning better. well duh. or r u really trying to imply that anakin is weak because he got shocked by freaking lightning and was only kod? or is it that dookus lighhning is weak because it only kod a powerful jedi who can survive falls at terminal velocity unscathed? either way u really have no point.

ya they"re humans. but fortunatly for kenobi hes a fictional charcter in a fictional world and there for doesnt have to adhere to our real world limits of human durability. and wether naturaly or by enhancing his stats thru the force, which he can at will, hes certainly superhuman.

based off what. lol are u serious? based off him doing just that in the first 5 min of TPM. have u even seen these movies?

Damn ur slow. For the third or fourth time, they wouldnt apply here because the thread starter specified in his opening post that ONLY MOVIE FEATS are to be valid for this thread. i guess its my fault for not spacing the words out to make it easier for u earlier. my bad.

ill happily include TCW feats, if there are no objections from the thread starter , and if u now concede to how stupid and willfully ignorant you"ve been as to why they wouldnt/havent been allowed in this specific thread thus far.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Cad bane beating Obi wan was due to luck. Cad bane had been disarmed twice by kenobi and knocked around way more times than kenobi. That is your perspective but you can't prove it. Bane did defeat him. Kenobi was disarmed of one of his sabers against Bane. Kenobi was also disarmed by Fett.

Originally posted by Raptor22
Why would i concede to something that i never said or argued. ive told u this several times already and if u cant figure out my stance on the subject by know then u r right about one thing, u r exceptional. Exceptionaly simple minded. Or is it that ur so sad of a man it gets u off to get a concession from someone wether its baseless or not? honestly r u really that pathetic that u need that small gratification to feel good about yourself. but hey i like helping those beneath me so ill throw u a bone. sure ill concede that kenobi wont fight in a made up way that i never said he would. ill even conced that water is wet and fire is hot if it makes u feel better. i hope that helps and gives u the ego boost to at least get u thru the week. if not, pm me later in the week and ill toss u concessions to the fact that dogs bark and cats meow.

u can keep clinging to ur Jango example. The fact is kenobi has shown he can run that fast, and has used that speed to evade blaster firing foes just like he will be facing here. By all means continue with ur but, but, but he didnt run that fast against Jango, it changes nothing. He can and will here.

its nothing more than your opinion that khans gun is more powerful than fetts rocket launcher. lets stick to facts. thae fact that it has a faster rate of fire is moot. it would only be a factor if i was arguing that kenobi would block said blasts. What u have to prove is that khans first shot will clear the distance between him and kenobi, which im assuming to be the standard .5 km, faster than the droidekas blasts reached him from their relativley short distance from eachother. if u cant prove that khans blast is not only faster but so much faster that it can clear a much larger space and reach kenobi in less time than the droidekas then im afraid kenobis speed will be too much for poor slow khan. the follow up blasts will be just as useless since khan has no feats of percieving things as fast as kenobi can run.

not sure what ur really arguing here. is it that luke in RotJ is more powerful than anakin in AotC, so was able to handle lightning better. well duh. or r u really trying to imply that anakin is weak because he got shocked by freaking lightning and was only kod? or is it that dookus lighhning is weak because it only kod a powerful jedi who can survive falls at terminal velocity unscathed? either way u really have no point.

ya they"re humans. but fortunatly for kenobi hes a fictional charcter in a fictional world and there for doesnt have to adhere to our real world limits of human durability. and wether naturaly or by enhancing his stats thru the force, which he can at will, hes certainly superhuman.

based off what. lol are u serious? based off him doing just that in the first 5 min of TPM. have u even seen these movies?

Damn ur slow. For the third or fourth time, they wouldnt apply here because the thread starter specified in his opening post that ONLY MOVIE FEATS are to be valid for this thread. i guess its my fault for not spacing the words out to make it easier for u earlier. my bad.

ill happily include TCW feats, if there are no objections from the thread starter , and if u now concede to how stupid and willfully ignorant you"ve been as to why they wouldnt/havent been allowed in this specific thread thus far.
So we agree that what you said was complete and utter nonsense. He doesn't fight at that speed. He only fled at that speed one time which represents less than 1 percent of his showings. Calling someone else exceptionally simple minded while saying u over and over again. You're a perfect imbecile. Or should I have said, "U're," so you can understand it.


He ran from a fight. If he runs away from a fight or leaves the area he loses. Period. The Jango Fett example if exactly how the Jedi take on the bounty hunters. You trying to use one example that he avoided a fight while ignoring an example of how fast he reacted during a fight is desperation.

Here is a canon example of Kenobi with a Jedi ally on foot against one bounty hunter. Not only does Kenobi need help but Bane perceives him just fine and actually proves to be quicker koing Kenobi.


27 seconds in Cad ties up Vos while he's just running away on foot firing his blasters.
42 seconds in the rock pillar holding up Obi is gunned down. Obi needs time to recover while Vos now continues the pursuit of two on one. 52 seconds in after a droid helps distract him Bane kicks him off while Obi now continues the pursuit. Two on one so it really shouldn't matter since its two on one anyways to even out the unfair advantages. 1:01 in is the first time we see Bane use his flight boots. 1:23 in after Bane disarms Obi and his second light saber they fight one on one. Bane doesn't have the training with a laser sword yet he isn't decimated despite Obi's specialized training. 1:27 in after Obi disarms his saber Bane then quickly acts and electrocutes him out. He showed he was more than quick enough to fight at the jedis strength up close and personal and come out victorious.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SoSayqv1TVI

Look at how many blasts Bane gets off as well as Fett in the clone film. Both are examples that Kenobi doesn't sprint at an opponent during a fight. Khan's guns are also quicker proving he gets off more shots as well as more powerful. There is no proof the lightsaber can deflect the Boolean gun.

Being more powerful doesn't mean he's more durable. Durability and power aren't the same thing. Anakin is flat out terrible when it comes to durability against similar Jedi. The other was a coordination and force amped feat that has nothing to do with strength. Yoda isn't strong but can clip all over the place with the force but on his own he can barely walk with a cane. Dooku's Lightning is weaker than Palpatine's and neither Lightning has killed anyone based off the force alone. Khan's gun leaves people in stumps of flesh while Sheev's Lightning leaves smoke behind. People can survive over ten second durations meant to kill by the more powerful Sheev thus proving the force Lightning Dooku uses is absolute garbage power wise.

He has superhuman skill but not superhuman durability. The force can't make him tank blasters hitting his body. Khan tanked 8 stun phaser blasts thus proving the guy is an enhanced superhuman. His cellular regeneration was a main point of the film and his blood in the proper settings can bring people back to life and heal incurable diseases.


Ok, if you want to ignore canon clone wars because you're a coward then so be it. It's obvious the thread starter doesn't believe canon Kenobi can win here.

I like to argue canon vs. canon but I'll withdraw my Bane statements if the threadstarter admits he restricted the clone wars due to give Kenobi a better chance because he needs all the fanboyism and help he can get.


Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is your perspective but you can't prove it. Bane did defeat him. Kenobi was disarmed of one of his sabers against Bane. Kenobi was also disarmed by Fett.


So my perspective is proven fact now. It's easy to prove he won due to,luck. Fett and bane two different people. Kenobi disarmed bane twice.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So my perspective is proven fact now. It's easy to prove he won due to,luck. Fett and bane two different people. Kenobi disarmed bane twice. No, it isn't. He won due to skill.

Both at characters who have disarmed Kenobi. He gets disarmed a lot. Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There simply is no evidence the lightsabers can deflect something as wide and as powerful as the Boolean gun. It'd be like you saying prove it can't block the Death Star as ridiculous as it sounds the evidence doesn't support it can block anything just what it has blocked.

Kenobi went down to Cad Bane. His hand speed was greater than Kenobi's. Khan's feats and weaponry is too much for Kenobi. Since when has he ever blocked or deflected something capable of downing a Klingon ship with a single shot.

Khan takes down ships bit smaller, fleshy beasts. You're unbelievably stupid and an overall unlikeable, annoying person soon to be beat up by TI.

Funny enough, either one of us would curb stomp you with utter ease. A challenge you would run from every single time.

It's up TO YOU TO PROVE it can't block it, thus it's up to you to prove said claim. As of right now it's only your speculation it can't be blocked

No clownshoes, I was countering your typical lowballing. You acted like Jango's weapons were weak because they didn't do damage to the ground LMAO.. So I illustrated that his SMALLER one shot killed a big beast easily

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Funny enough, either one of us would curb stomp you with utter ease. A challenge you would run from every single time.

It's up TO YOU TO PROVE it can't block it, thus it's up to you to prove said claim. As of right now it's only your speculation it can't be blocked

No clownshoes, I was countering your typical lowballing. You acted like Jango's weapons were weak because they didn't do damage to the ground LMAO.. So I illustrated that his SMALLER one shot killed a big beast easily Why are you changing the subject. He's going to beat you up. I have nothing to do with this, wimp.


Ok, since you aren't capable of understanding simple points I'll try another way.

Do you think the lightsaber can block the Death Star ?

We go by feats. He is accurate so it was a well placed shot. Khan downs ships and leaves flash in stumps. We see Jango earlier shoot a Jedi and we don't see any physical damage at all comparable to Khan's Boolean gun. Try to think for a change.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't. He won due to skill.

Both at characters who have disarmed Kenobi. He gets disarmed a lot. Khan wins.


What skill? Bane got disarmed twice. He won due to kenobi not paying attention. Fact.


When did Bane disarm Kenobi? I know kenobi disarmed Bane twice and Jango needed a gigantic explosion to do so thus not doing it skillfully and then kenobi still had him pinned in Hand to Hand combat. Khan shall lose just as he has lost every other force weilder thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So we agree that what you said was complete and utter nonsense. He doesn't fight at that speed. He only fled at that speed one time which represents less than 1 percent of his showings. Calling someone else exceptionally simple minded while saying u over and over again. You're a perfect imbecile. Or should I have said, "U're," so you can understand it.


He ran from a fight. If he runs away from a fight or leaves the area he loses. Period. The Jango Fett example if exactly how the Jedi take on the bounty hunters. You trying to use one example that he avoided a fight while ignoring an example of how fast he reacted during a fight is desperation.

Here is a canon example of Kenobi with a Jedi ally on foot against one bounty hunter. Not only does Kenobi need help but Bane perceives him just fine and actually proves to be quicker koing Kenobi.


27 seconds in Cad ties up Vos while he's just running away on foot firing his blasters.
42 seconds in the rock pillar holding up Obi is gunned down. Obi needs time to recover while Vos now continues the pursuit of two on one. 52 seconds in after a droid helps distract him Bane kicks him off while Obi now continues the pursuit. Two on one so it really shouldn't matter since its two on one anyways to even out the unfair advantages. 1:01 in is the first time we see Bane use his flight boots. 1:23 in after Bane disarms Obi and his second light saber they fight one on one. Bane doesn't have the training with a laser sword yet he isn't decimated despite Obi's specialized training. 1:27 in after Obi disarms his saber Bane then quickly acts and electrocutes him out. He showed he was more than quick enough to fight at the jedis strength up close and personal and come out victorious.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SoSayqv1TVI

Look at how many blasts Bane gets off as well as Fett in the clone film. Both are examples that Kenobi doesn't sprint at an opponent during a fight. Khan's guns are also quicker proving he gets off more shots as well as more powerful. There is no proof the lightsaber can deflect the Boolean gun.

Being more powerful doesn't mean he's more durable. Durability and power aren't the same thing. Anakin is flat out terrible when it comes to durability against similar Jedi. The other was a coordination and force amped feat that has nothing to do with strength. Yoda isn't strong but can clip all over the place with the force but on his own he can barely walk with a cane. Dooku's Lightning is weaker than Palpatine's and neither Lightning has killed anyone based off the force alone. Khan's gun leaves people in stumps of flesh while Sheev's Lightning leaves smoke behind. People can survive over ten second durations meant to kill by the more powerful Sheev thus proving the force Lightning Dooku uses is absolute garbage power wise.

He has superhuman skill but not superhuman durability. The force can't make him tank blasters hitting his body. Khan tanked 8 stun phaser blasts thus proving the guy is an enhanced superhuman. His cellular regeneration was a main point of the film and his blood in the proper settings can bring people back to life and heal incurable diseases.


Ok, if you want to ignore canon clone wars because you're a coward then so be it. It's obvious the thread starter doesn't believe canon Kenobi can win here.

I like to argue canon vs. canon but I'll withdraw my Bane statements if the threadstarter admits he restricted the clone wars due to give Kenobi a better chance because he needs all the fanboyism and help he can get.


Khan wins. quan why do u insist on making a fool of ur self over and over. I never once said that he would fight at that speed. Provide a quote from me saying different or face another failure on ur part. Wow u really hit me where it hurts. In my use of short hand when i type. Ur even worse at trash talking then u r at debating.

As for the rest ill just take ur continued use of TCW feats as ur concession that u cant win the debate under the actual rules and stipulations of the fight, and like any loser u have to break the rules to have any shot.

And carthage doesnt have to admit anything for ur TCW feats to be invalid in this thread. It doesnt matter if u withdraw them or not . They're not being considered in the least.

Originally posted by Raptor22
quan why do u insist on making a fool of ur self over and over. I never once said that he would fight at that speed. Provide a quote from me saying different or face another failure on ur part. Wow u really hit me where it hurts. In my use of short hand when i type. Ur even worse at trash talking then u r at debating.

As for the rest ill just take ur continued use of TCW feats as ur concession that u cant win the debate under the actual rules and stipulations of the fight, and like any loser u have to break the rules to have any shot.

And carthage doesnt have to admit anything for ur TCW feats to be invalid in this thread. It doesnt matter if u withdraw them or not . They're not being considered in the least. I already provided a clip of what speed Kenobi fights at against fett. Windu looked to be around the same speed.

I've provided film feats as well as clone wars feats. I've provided plenty of film material you're ignoring due to being a piss poor debater.

Khan wins, badly.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
What skill? Bane got disarmed twice. He won due to kenobi not paying attention. Fact.


When did Bane disarm Kenobi? I know kenobi disarmed Bane twice and Jango needed a gigantic explosion to do so thus not doing it skillfully and then kenobi still had him pinned in Hand to Hand combat. Khan shall lose just as he has lost every other force weilder thread. He showed skill throughout the fight. So you think he possessed zero skill and beat Kenobi. You disrepspect the Jedi.


He had two sabers and took one out. Mango used his own weapons skillfully to disarm him. He also used skill to keep the lightsaber from Obi the force user.

Khan wins due to superiority.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He showed skill throughout the fight. So you think he possessed zero skill and beat Kenobi. You disrepspect the Jedi.


He had two sabers and took one out. Mango used his own weapons skillfully to disarm him. He also used skill to keep the lightsaber from Obi the force user.

Khan wins due to superiority.


Oh well to beat kenobi no he had no skill. If you need to beat someone through distraction you can't beat them head on you don't have any real skill.

Didn't Obi disarm Jango too. Kenobi also used his skill to freakin kick him around and then destroyed his jet pack.

Your opinion.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Oh well to beat kenobi no he had no skill. If you need to beat someone through distraction you can't beat them head on you don't have any real skill.

Didn't Obi disarm Jango too. Kenobi also used his skill to freakin kick him around and then destroyed his jet pack.

Your opinion. This is why you're a child. Distracting someone is a skill in combat. Batman is highly skilled at distraction aka misdirection.

Yes, and you agree that they both stalemated despite mango not having the force.

Mango also moronically flew right at him. Dumb move.

My opinion is correct.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already provided a clip of what speed Kenobi fights at against fett. Windu looked to be around the same speed.

I've provided film feats as well as clone wars feats. I've provided plenty of film material you're ignoring due to being a piss poor debater.

Khan wins, badly. the fett fight doesnt invalidate his other showings, and you've provided nothing of substance to make any difference to the outcome of this fight. Which is khan getting cut to pieces by a faster, stronger, more durable and more skilled opponent.

Originally posted by Raptor22
the fett fight doesnt invalidate his other showings, and you've provided nothing of substance to make any difference to the outcome of this fight. Which is khan getting cut to pieces by a faster, stronger, more durable and more skilled opponent. Fett wasn't cut to ribbons by a less skilled and weaker opponent Jango Fett. Fett disarmed the Jedi pretty quickly. Khan's weapons, strength, and accuracy put Fett to shame and he kind of humiliated Kenobi already.

If it went hand to hand Khan would crush his skull. The much more likely scenario has him leave Kenobi's body in stumps.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Fett wasn't cut to ribbons by a less skilled and weaker opponent Jango Fett. Fett disarmed the Jedi pretty quickly. Khan's weapons, strength, and accuracy put Fett to shame and he kind of humiliated Kenobi already.

If it went hand to hand Khan would crush his skull. The much more likely scenario has him leave Kenobi's body in stumps. once again ur first sentence makes absolutely no sense. Its becoming harder and harder to debate with u the further u slip into senility.

If it went hand to hand khan wouldn't have much hope since his hands would most likely be lying on the ground, right where kenobi left them after chopping them off.

Originally posted by Raptor22
once again ur first sentence makes absolutely no sense. Its becoming harder and harder to debate with u the further u slip into senility.

If it went hand to hand khan wouldn't have much hope since his hands would most likely be lying on the ground, right where kenobi left them after chopping them off. So you concede and are left literally speechless.


Hand to hand implies no weapons, kiddo. Weapons Kenobi ends up in stumps of flesh. Khan is far superior to the guy who didn't even significantly injure Fett despite your fanboyish claims.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is why you're a child. Distracting someone is a skill in combat. Batman is highly skilled at distraction aka misdirection.

Yes, and you agree that they both stalemated despite mango not having the force.

Mango also moronically flew right at him. Dumb move.

My opinion is correct.



However Bane didn't distract him. He took advantage of his distraction which is a smart idea however he didn't beat through superior skill.

Jango wasn't anything without that jet pack. If kenobi wasn't attached by that wire Jango would have been down for the count.

Jango not Mango.

Wrong.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you concede and are left literally speechless.


Hand to hand implies no weapons, kiddo. Weapons Kenobi ends up in stumps of flesh. Khan is far superior to the guy who didn't even significantly injure Fett despite your fanboyish claims. i wouldnt say speechless since u know, i replied and all. A more appropriate phrase would be confused by ur stupidity. Seriously what am supposed to do when faced with a gem of an argument like-

"Fett wasn't cut to ribbons by a less skilled and weaker opponent Jange Fett."-quan

Originally posted by Raptor22
i wouldnt say speechless since u know, i replied and all. A more appropriate phrase would be confused by ur stupidity. Seriously what am supposed to do when faced with a gem of an argument like-

"Fett wasn't cut to ribbons by a less skilled and weaker opponent Jange Fett."-quan So because I had a typo in there you fall to pieces and think somehow you get a free pass.

Fett wasn't cut to pieces. Your claims are baseless. Khan wins. Stumps of flesh or crushed cranium.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
However Bane didn't distract him. He took advantage of his distraction which is a smart idea however he didn't beat through superior skill.

Jango wasn't anything without that jet pack. If kenobi wasn't attached by that wire Jango would have been down for the count.

Jango not Mango.

Wrong. What distracted kenobi then ?

Yes, he was. Without his jet pack he still was not defeated by kenobi. So basically you think kenobi is shit.

Right.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What distracted kenobi then ?

Yes, he was. Without his jet pack he still was not defeated by kenobi. So basically you think kenobi is shit.

Right.

Him disarming Bane apparently as that was the last thing that happened before kenobi went down.

He fled from kenobi as he didn't defeat kenobi either.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Him disarming Bane apparently as that was the last thing that happened before kenobi went down.

He fled from kenobi as he didn't defeat kenobi either. So kenobi disarming an opponent distracted him ? Dear lord you're a baboon.

He kod kenobi. There were two on one so fleeing was smart and effective. They didn't apprehend him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So kenobi disarming an opponent distracted him ? Dear lord you're a baboon.

He kod kenobi. There were two on one so fleeing was smart and effective. They didn't apprehend him.



I go by facts and once he disarmed bane kenobi wasn't paying attention right after that.

When did he KO kenobi? So now,fleeing is a smart move? God help us make up your mind. According to you fleeing means surrendering thus he surrendered.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I go by facts and once he disarmed bane kenobi wasn't paying attention right after that.

When did he KO kenobi? So now,fleeing is a smart move? God help us make up your mind. According to you fleeing means surrendering thus he surrendered. So you think Kenobi is so inept he screwed himself over. Wow.


So you didn't even watch the clip. You're just a rabid fanboy who isn't even familiar with the clip. Bane won. He kod him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you think Kenobi is so inept he screwed himself over. Wow.


So you didn't even watch the clip. You're just a rabid fanboy who isn't even familiar with the clip. Bane won. He kod him.

I go by the facts.

O course I saw the clip,and I originally thought you meant the Jango fett battle as I believed that was the original topic for this line however after re watching the fight again, Obi was not KOd. He electrocuted Obi and he went down however he wasn't unconscious. Bane lost due to luck. No KOing happened.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I go by the facts.

O course I saw the clip,and I originally thought you meant the Jango fett battle as I believed that was the original topic for this line however after re watching the fight again, Obi was not KOd. He electrocuted Obi and he went down however he wasn't unconscious. Bane lost due to luck. No KOing happened. So you think it's a fact he got distracted by disarming his foe making him legendarily inept.

He was kod and left at Bane's mercy. You claimed he didn't lose to luck but he lost due to Kenobi's ineptitude because disarming someone distracts himself which is a fact according to you.



You do worse for the characters you argue for because you're some dummy.

Kenobi wins pretty easily.. not as easy like what Palps and yoda do to Khan, but pretty easy

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Kenobi wins pretty easily.. not as easy like what Palps and yoda do to Khan, but pretty easy Based on ?

Movie feats

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Movie feats Kenobi didn't beat Fett who is less than Khan so I ask which feats ? Relevant ones.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you think it's a fact he got distracted by disarming his foe making him legendarily inept.

He was kod and left at Bane's mercy. You claimed he didn't lose to luck but he lost due to Kenobi's ineptitude because disarming someone distracts himself which is a fact according to you.



You do worse for the characters you argue for because you're some dummy.

That's your interpretation of that battle. The video shows one instance where it happens.

He was not KOd he was still conscious. Bane only lost due to luck. According to me? No. According to the video kenobi wasn't paying attention at that one point.

I'm smarter than you and actually represent my character well as seen in the Khan vs Plaptine thread how I'm currently beating you to smithereens. And the Maul vs Aankin thread as well. Win an argument Quan. Maybe you'll get some confidence yourself.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
That's your interpretation of that battle. The video shows one instance where it happens.

He was not KOd he was still conscious. Bane only lost due to luck. According to me? No. According to the video kenobi wasn't paying attention at that one point.

I'm smarter than you and actually represent my character well as seen in the Khan vs Plaptine thread how I'm currently beating you to smithereens. And the Maul vs Aankin thread as well. Win an argument Quan. Maybe you'll get some confidence yourself. You said it's a fact Kenobi got distracted by him disarming a foe.


Prove he was conscious.

Atai Molec a zygerrian slaver kicked the shit out of Kenobi in hand to hand combat. No force powers either.

If you are in combat you are paying attention so your point is he has A.D.D.


Khan crushes the jedis skull that Atai Molec beat the shit out of.

You've been avoiding me lately and are unaware of Lucas confirming Windu won.

Weapons drawn he leaves Kenobi in mounds of flesh.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said it's a fact Kenobi got distracted by him disarming a foe.


Prove he was conscious.

Atai Molec a zygerrian slaver kicked the shit out of Kenobi in hand to hand combat. No force powers either.

If you are in combat you are paying attention so your point is he has A.D.D.


Khan crushes the jedis skull that Atai Molec beat the shit out of.

You've been avoiding me lately and are unaware of Lucas confirming Windu won.

Weapons drawn he leaves Kenobi in mounds of flesh.

I go by the video. The video shows one instance where kenobi wasn't paying attention after disarming his foe.

We kenobi fall on his knees however he doesn't just fall flat on the ground and then walks fine after it.

Again what does this prove? Also this only goes to prove my point. As when Anakin finished defusing the bombs kenobi was just fine. Adjusting his beard and then retrieving his lightsaber he was perfectly fine.

How have I been avoiding you when I have responded to your post. Where has this been posted?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kenobi didn't beat Fett who is less than Khan so I ask which feats ? Relevant ones.

Less than Khan? In what way? he has more weapons, armor, ability to fly, more experience dealing with jedi etc etc. You're right Khan can't really compare

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I go by the video. The video shows one instance where kenobi wasn't paying attention after disarming his foe.

We kenobi fall on his knees however he doesn't just fall flat on the ground and then walks fine after it.

Again what does this prove? Also this only goes to prove my point. As when Anakin finished defusing the bombs kenobi was just fine. Adjusting his beard and then retrieving his lightsaber he was perfectly fine.

How have I been avoiding you when I have responded to your post. Where has this been posted? He was paying attention he was just outmaneuvered.

He was incapacitated until his partner gave him more time to recover. I never said he was maimed.

So you ignore Atai Molec's beat down of Kenobi.

You are on here all day and respond hours later because you're mentally exhausted and weak.

Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was paying attention he was just outmaneuvered.

He was incapacitated until his partner gave him more time to recover. I never said he was maimed.

So you ignore Atai Molec's beat down of Kenobi.

You are on here all day and respond hours later because you're mentally exhausted and weak.

Khan wins.

Not sure about that. Wasn't he looking at the saber?

You said KOd. KOd means done. He was stunned to great effect is the best way for us to go with.

Kenobi wasn't trying he was just stalking for time.

That's because I'm 1)busy with an actual life,2) my account doesn't log out. 3) what about your long periods of absence? I get to you and I crush anything you put in front of me.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Less than Khan? In what way? he has more weapons, armor, ability to fly, more experience dealing with jedi etc etc. You're right Khan can't really compare Khan has more powerful weapons, greater feats, greater strength, greater athleticism, more tactical, etc. Khan one shots him.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Not sure about that. Wasn't he looking at the saber?

You said KOd. KOd means done. He was stunned to great effect is the best way for us to go with.

Kenobi wasn't trying he was just stalking for time.

That's because I'm 1)busy with an actual life,2) my account doesn't log out. 3) what about your long periods of absence? I get to you and I crush anything you put in front of me. He was in the middle of a battle. He lost. You think he has A.D. d.

He was trying and needed the saber to get then better of him.

You can leave the site.

You don't have a life. You're like ten.

Quan thinks Khan is unbeatable in the Trek verse. A Species 8472 alien would be him easily.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was in the middle of a battle. He lost. You think he has A.D. d.

He was trying and needed the saber to get then better of him.

You can leave the site.

You don't have a life. You're like ten.


He wasn't trying.

So you ignore kenobis words. He says it took him long enough this time showing he was just stalling for time he want actually trying to win.

I actually do. More of a life than you. Still wrong about my age I see.

Originally posted by playa1258
Quan thinks Khan is unbeatable in the Trek verse. A Species 8472 alien would be him easily. I think he wins this fight. I am correct based off the evidence. Quit going off topic.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He wasn't trying.

So you ignore kenobis words. He says it took him long enough this time showing he was just stalling for time he want actually trying to win.

I actually do. More of a life than you. Still wrong about my age I see. So despite Obi's words now you flip flop into saying he wasn't trying.


He got beat down and then retrieved his light saber. He was unable to beat him physically. The guy was unarmed so it wasn't a fair brawl.


You're a known liar so I don't care what other lies you have in store for me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So despite Obi's words now you flip flop into saying he wasn't trying.


He got beat down and then retrieved his light saber. He was unable to beat him physically. The guy was unarmed so it wasn't a fair brawl.


You're a known liar so I don't care what other lies you have in store for me.

His words show he was t trying to win he was trying to,stall.

He wasn't trying to beat him he was trying to stall for time so Anakin coup find the bombs and defuse them.

Known liar? Known by who you? Everyone else takes me seriously you however no one takes you very seriously.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan has more powerful weapons, greater feats, greater strength, greater athleticism, more tactical, etc. Khan one shots him.

Greater athleticism WUT??? You have zero way to prove that. Same with strength... though I might agree with this one anyways.

he's not more tactical at all, and again you have ZERO way of proving this. Like none. Which is why it was so amusing to see what you listed. A whole bunch of unquantifiable things. While is listed QUANTIFIABLE things... like ability to fly... more versatile... better armor... more experience dealing with Jedi... all things we can conclusively say. You listed stuff that are subjective and hard to prove. Yet again, you've lost to me.

Regardless, the KEY factor which gives Jango the advantage against any Jedi is that HE'S FOUGHT THEM BEFORE. He's very much aware of what it is like to fight a force sensitive user. Khan on the other hand has ZERO experience fighting a force sensitive user. He would be dumbfounded getting punned against the wall and yet nothing hit him or appeared to be holding him there. Jango's experience with jedi make him EXPONENTIONALLY more equipped to deal with them than Khan

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
His words show he was t trying to win he was trying to,stall.

He wasn't trying to beat him he was trying to stall for time so Anakin coup find the bombs and defuse them.

Known liar? Known by who you? Everyone else takes me seriously you however no one takes you very seriously. His actions later proved he needed the saber to gain the advantage.

No one else does. You're just some kid fanboy. Khan wins.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Greater athleticism WUT??? You have zero way to prove that. Same with strength... though I might agree with this one anyways.

he's not more tactical at all, and again you have ZERO way of proving this. Like none. Which is why it was so amusing to see what you listed. A whole bunch of unquantifiable things. While is listed QUANTIFIABLE things... like ability to fly... more versatile... better armor... more experience dealing with Jedi... all things we can conclusively say. You listed stuff that are subjective and hard to prove. Yet again, you've lost to me.

Regardless, the KEY factor which gives Jango the advantage against any Jedi is that HE'S FOUGHT THEM BEFORE. He's very much aware of what it is like to fight a force sensitive user. Khan on the other hand has ZERO experience fighting a force sensitive user. He would be dumbfounded getting punned against the wall and yet nothing hit him or appeared to be holding him there. Jango's experience with jedi make him EXPONENTIONALLY more equipped to deal with them than Khan Watch Khan in action.

Yes, he is. He clearly always assesses the strength and weakness of his foes in all situations. Kenobi just jumps into situations and relies on his skills to get him out of the situation. If we want to talk Fett he relies on his gear. He was awful once his jet pack was damaged. He disarmed obi and actually flew at him despite possessing long ranged weapons and a jet pack. Dumb.

Khan doesn't need armor. He tanked Kirk's attacks while standing there and Kirk weakened. Kenobi beat up Fett despite him having armor on.

Khan doesn't need experience in dealing with someone he is superior to. His weapons, accuracy, skill, athleticism, and strength are too much for any Jedi or with to deal with. He'd leave them in stumps of flesh or break their skulls.

Khan dies.

Originally posted by Stigma
Khan dies. Khan crushes his skull.

Khan loses tbh.

Originally posted by Stigma
Khan loses tbh. Based on ?

Khan has zero chance to win

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Khan has zero chance to win You can continue to make baseless claims while I will continue using common sense as well as evidence.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His actions later proved he needed the saber to gain the advantage.

No one else does. You're just some kid fanboy. Khan wins.

So? That's not what we are debating. However kenobi he has proven he doesn't need his saber in order to,defeat or contend with single opponents force weilder or not.

Irony. You call me a fanboy when we all see your dumb support for,character who would be defeated very easily.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So? That's not what we are debating. However kenobi he has proven he doesn't need his saber in order to,defeat or contend with single opponents force weilder or not.

Irony. You call me a fanboy when we all see your dumb support for,character who would be defeated very easily. In this instance he clearly needed it. Watch the scene again.

Simply absurd.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In this instance he clearly needed it. Watch the scene again.

Simply absurd.

Again not debating whether he needed the lightsaber as he has shown he doesn't need a lightsaber to take out opponents or contend with who are better equipped.

Well you have brought this on yourself. You support character who have no chance of Winning in some cases. Such as in khan vs Plaptine and yoda, and Anakin vs maul where you support maul even know all the evidence is against you. How embarrassing.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Again not debating whether he needed the lightsaber as he has shown he doesn't need a lightsaber to take out opponents or contend with who are better equipped.

Well you have brought this on yourself. You support character who have no chance of Winning in some cases. Such as in khan vs Plaptine and yoda, and Anakin vs maul where you support maul even know all the evidence is against you. How embarrassing. In that scene he did which you concede.

False. All the evidence supports me. Anakin along with Kenobi were at Ventress' mercy.

You haven't even seen Into Darkness and argue out of fanboyism along with the opinion of others. You don't even think for yourself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In that scene he did which you concede.

False. All the evidence supports me. Anakin along with Kenobi were at Ventress' mercy.

You haven't even seen Into Darkness and argue out of fanboyism along with the opinion of others. You don't even think for yourself.


Still not the point.

False. She was at their mercy as well.

I think for myself. Sidious wins due to command of the force. Yoda wins due to command of the force.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Still not the point.

False. She was at their mercy as well.

I think for myself. Sidious wins due to command of the force. Yoda wins due to command of the force. That was my point so you concede.

Not when they were force choked.

You said your friend told you so you're your buddy's *****. Send him to debate, weakling.

Khan losses to Kenobi with relative ease.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Khan losses to Kenobi with relative ease. Ludicrous. Bane took on kenobi and a friend and had kenobi at his mercy. Khan destroys him in one shot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That was my point so you concede.

Not when they were force choked.

You said your friend told you so you're your buddy's *****. Send him to debate, weakling.

That was yours but not the one we were debating.

When they had her disarmed and pinned. Also if she could have them at her mercy why didn't she do it a second time?

He gave me a summary of khan and I'm still not impressed. Kahn has nothing to suggest he can take Sidious or yoda. Sidiosu abs the easiest time as all he needs to do is crush his heart or choke the crap out of him or shock him to death. Yoda second he just needs to ragdoll him, Obi and Ahsoka have the hardest time but they still make it.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
That was yours but not the one we were debating.

When they had her disarmed and pinned. Also if she could have them at her mercy why didn't she do it a second time?

He gave me a summary of khan and I'm still not impressed. Kahn has nothing to suggest he can take Sidious or yoda. Sidiosu abs the easiest time as all he needs to do is crush his heart or choke the crap out of him or shock him to death. Yoda second he just needs to ragdoll him, Obi and Ahsoka have the hardest time but they still make it. False.


Force choking has to be applied when their opponent isn't expecting it.

So you admit you go by your friend and not yourself. Send him my way, wimp.

Khan guns them down.

Non fight, Kenobi wins easily

Originally posted by quanchi112
False.


Force choking has to be applied when their opponent isn't expecting it.

So you admit you go by your friend and not yourself. Send him my way, wimp.

Khan guns them down.
Desperate for a win I see.

Not necessarily.

No I admit I use him as a reference if need be. However he doesn't know as much about Star Wars as I do and plus he would get bored with you as I am. You can't call anyone else a wimp because you are a king wimp.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Desperate for a win I see.

Not necessarily.

No I admit I use him as a reference if need be. However he doesn't know as much about Star Wars as I do and plus he would get bored with you as I am. You can't call anyone else a wimp because you are a king wimp. False.

So you believe anyone can defeat any Jedi or Sith if they apply it first. Absurd.

You don't know much about Star Wars and admittedly know next to nothing about Khan thus proving your fanboyism.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Non fight, Kenobi wins easily No one takes you seriously. Continue to babble in the corner like a child.

Originally posted by quanchi112
False.

So you believe anyone can defeat any Jedi or Sith if they apply it first. Absurd.

You don't know much about Star Wars and admittedly know next to nothing about Khan thus proving your fanboyism.

Did I say that? No I said that what you said is not necessarily true. You said the ability has to applied when the opponent doesn't expect it. I said that's not necessarily true. Force choke could be applied to you or me and we can expect. We just can't stop it.


I know more about Star Wars than you ever will. Khan is unimportant and that's why he loses. You are a true fanboy supporting khan when he can't win.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Did I say that? No I said that what you said is not necessarily true. You said the ability has to applied when the opponent doesn't expect it. I said that's not necessarily true. Force choke could be applied to you or me and we can expect. We just can't stop it.


I know more about Star Wars than you ever will. Khan is unimportant and that's why he loses. You are a true fanboy supporting khan when he can't win. I would have a gun ready and fire right after. dead Jedi.

Nah, you know next to nothing. In Khan debates he's very important but continue to be biased. It suits you, ignorant one.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I would have a gun ready and fire right after. dead Jedi.

Nah, you know next to nothing. In Khan debates he's very important but continue to be biased. It suits you, ignorant one.

How does this go with anything we are talking about. Stay on topic. Also they have force speed and force perception.

I know way more than you apparently. Khan even in his own debates his worthless unless he can find a character he can beat. He can't beat force weilders.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
How does this go with anything we are talking about. Stay on topic. Also they have force speed and force perception.

I know way more than you apparently. Khan even in his own debates his worthless unless he can find a character he can beat. He can't beat force weilders. You speculated so I countered. Dead jedi.

Bane has, fett has, etc. khan wins but you're biased.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You speculated so I countered. Dead jedi.

Bane has, fett has, etc. khan wins but you're biased.




No it's factually proven. TK can be blocked by a force sheild if it's strong enough. Opponents who don't have one up can always just be choked if they expect it or not.

I've explained Banes win and Jango was shit without his jet pack and almost got beat and I able ice he states in the AOTC novel he couldn't defeat Obi in hand to hand combat. Khan loses horribly as yoda and Sidious are more powerful than anyone they have fought.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
No it's factually proven. TK can be blocked by a force sheild if it's strong enough. Opponents who don't have one up can always just be choked if they expect it or not.

I've explained Banes win and Jango was shit without his jet pack and almost got beat and I able ice he states in the AOTC novel he couldn't defeat Obi in hand to hand combat. Khan loses horribly as yoda and Sidious are more powerful than anyone they have fought. Nah. I shoot them down and kill them.

Bane did win. Jango has a jet pack so don't discount his equipment because you're a fanboy. Even without it Obi didn't beat him so without a jetpack Obi to you is worse than shit.

Movies only.

Khan is far more powerful than someone who can't really hurt Luke after over ten seconds of power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah. I shoot them down and kill them.

Bane did win. Jango has a jet pack so don't discount his equipment because you're a fanboy. Even without it Obi didn't beat him so without a jetpack Obi to you is worse than shit.

Movies only.

Khan is far more powerful than someone who can't really hurt Luke after over ten seconds of power.



They just move out the way and then blitz you.

By luck. It's facts kiddo. Once he list that jet pack he was shit. That's why he got his ass decapitated by windu.

Khan is no where near Palaptines level of power. He is a guppy compared to Sidious.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
They just move out the way and then blitz you.

By luck. It's facts kiddo. Once he list that jet pack he was shit. That's why he got his ass decapitated by windu.

Khan is no where near Palaptines level of power. He is a guppy compared to Sidious. They are already dead.

Prove luck. So being shit Obi couldn't win so he's less than shit.

Windu also made Sheev beg for his life.

Khan is well past it. You don't know, ignorant one. Ask your bf.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They are already dead.

Prove luck. So being shit Obi couldn't win so he's less than shit.

Windu also made Sheev beg for his life.

Khan is well past it. You don't know, ignorant one. Ask your bf.



They didn't get shot by you. You're way to slow. They are to fast.

Obi isn't looking and then kenobi had bane disarmed twice. I think we know whose better.

Feigning weakness at that point so.

He is well below it. I don't need to know. Not about this one. I have and he says palpatine would destroy Khan.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
They didn't get shot by you. You're way to slow. They are to fast.

Obi isn't looking and then kenobi had bane disarmed twice. I think we know whose better.

Feigning weakness at that point so.

He is well below it. I don't need to know. Not about this one. I have and he says palpatine would destroy Khan. Faster than order 66 wrecked this order.

Obis fault. He's in a fight. Bane won.

Bs. After he needed his help he did, not before.

Ask your be, clueless one. Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Faster than order 66 wrecked this order.

Obis fault. He's in a fight. Bane won.

Bs. After he needed his help he did, not before.

Ask your be, clueless one. Khan wins.

Oh but guess what who survived kenobi and yoda. Both of which week you and Khan.

So we agree it was luck. Good.

He didn't help,as he could have taken windu out by himself easily.

Palptine stomps 10/10

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Oh but guess what who survived kenobi and yoda. Both of which week you and Khan.

So we agree it was luck. Good.

He didn't help,as he could have taken windu out by himself easily.

Palptine stomps 10/10 Yeah, the Jedi still had to go into hiding.

No, I said prove it was.

Speculation. His words begged Anakin. Evidence >>you.

Sheev isn't in this thread, loser.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yeah, the Jedi still had to go into hiding.

No, I said prove it was.

Speculation. His words begged Anakin. Evidence >>you.

Sheev isn't in this thread, loser.

Haha I win.

I did prove it.

Fact. His actions show he could have killed windu before Anakin showed up. Evidence>>>>>>>>>>You

So?

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Haha I win.

I did prove it.

Fact. His actions show he could have killed windu before Anakin showed up. Evidence>>>>>>>>>>You

So? Nah, the Jedi order was overthrown by order 66.

No, you didn't.


No, you speculate. Lucas said he was overcome and never once said he threw the fight. Nothing in the film suggested that either.

You said he wins when he isn't in the thread. Are you retarded ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah, the Jedi order was overthrown by order 66.

No, you didn't.


No, you speculate. Lucas said he was overcome and never once said he threw the fight. Nothing in the film suggested that either.

You said he wins when he isn't in the thread. Are you retarded ?

I still win.

Yea I did.

I use evidence to back my claim and he describes the scenes and this is that. Until he himself comes out and says windu legitamently won your answer is just as good as mine. I have one thing that by itself points to him throwing the fight. The fact Sidious had windu at sword point. Is that true or not?

Ask yourself that question because you show a lot of that. I can say he wins due to us being engaged in several debates.

I'm taking a break from Obi vs Khan and Maul vs Anakin until we finish one of the others.

Also why haven't you responded to your thread for whether palpatine threw the fight or not. I made some pretty good points that I want to see you attempt to beat. Also 7 for he did throw the fight and 5 for windu actually won. I'm winning.

Kenobi with ease

I concur

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I still win.

Yea I did.

I use evidence to back my claim and he describes the scenes and this is that. Until he himself comes out and says windu legitamently won your answer is just as good as mine. I have one thing that by itself points to him throwing the fight. The fact Sidious had windu at sword point. Is that true or not?

Ask yourself that question because you show a lot of that. I can say he wins due to us being engaged in several debates.

I'm taking a break from Obi vs Khan and Maul vs Anakin until we finish one of the others.

Also why haven't you responded to your thread for whether palpatine threw the fight or not. I made some pretty good points that I want to see you attempt to beat. Also 7 for he did throw the fight and 5 for windu actually won. I'm winning. No.

No.

You have no evidence to assume anything. You just fanboy it up. Film shows Windu win.

Khan wins, so keep running.

No, you made speculative points and just make shit up. You don't have a leg to stand on. The Sheev fanboys want to claim he threw the fight when deep down you know Windu was just superior.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Kenobi with ease Khan with one shot from his Boolean gun.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I concur You have not even seen the film Into Darkness.

Kenobi stomps.

Originally posted by Stigma
Kenobi stomps. Khan stomps. In the core of your being you know this to be true.

Quan Noonien Sig wins

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Quan Noonien Sig wins

Kenobi stomps.

Originally posted by Stigma
Kenobi stomps.

I concur

Originally posted by Stigma
Kenobi stomps. Cad Bane beat this fool. Keno I failed to bring in Fett. Khan stomps.

Kenobi laughs at Khan and then dismembers him.

Originally posted by Stigma
Kenobi laughs at Khan and then dismembers him. False. Khan wins, easily.