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Caedus and Jaina vs Vititae

Who wins. The twin Solos or the Sith emperor.

Vitiate gets stomped again

I wouldn't say stomped, but he probably loses after a good fight. It may depend on how easily he can dispatch Jaina.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
I wouldn't say stomped, but he probably loses after a good fight. It may depend on how easily he can dispatch Jaina.


Jaina was able to defend against Caedus's force attacks, so 'not very.'

I don't think anyone can take the twins.

The Father could.

True. Still, no-one short of the Ones.

Vitiate have defeated Strike Teams of powerful Jedi and/or Sith on different occasions, so I don't see why he cannot defeat this duo.

Example 1:

The legendary Jedi Revan and Malak confront the Sith Emperor in his throne room on Dromund Kaas. In mere moments, the Jedi lay defeated and consumed by the dark side of the Force.

From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)

Example 2:

The Emperor is more than a man - he is the living embodiment of the dark side. Armed with incalculable powers of corruption, the Emperor easily defeats the Knight, Master Braga, and their fellow Jedi, twisting them all to the dark side.

From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)

Example 3:

He allowed their plan to play out, but when they gathered to confront the Emperor, his punishment was swift and devastating. Eleven members of the Dark Council died in a sudden flash on the steps of the Citadel. The last member Darth Lokess, disappeared forever, though for some centuries some claimed her screams could be heard from the bowels of the Citadel.

From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)

No doubt he's great and all, but two *extremely* strong force users, of the Skywalker line.

They're a good deal stronger than Jedi Revan/Malak. They could handle Tol Braga's team too. Jacen studied all kinds of force powers, and with his sister assisting, they should handle Vitiate's force power pretty well. And in melee, well, no question on that two vs one.

Well...

In sabers, Vitiate's got nothing. Caedus is one of the best, and with support...Vitiate's not known for his saber skills.

Force, physical vitiate probably loses, Spirit Vitiate probably wins. Because Ziost is admittedly OP, and Jaina just isn't useful to her brother at that level.

All Out: See above. Vitiate's weaker melee combat doesn't mean much when he's a spirit. They have a better chance if Jacen is still Jacen and not Caedus, as they need Force Light or Force Harmony to take down a spirit, and Sith can't perform either.

Originally posted by Q99
No doubt he's great and all, but two *extremely* strong force users, of the Skywalker line.
Being a Skywalker doesn't makes someone invincible or unstoppable.

Originally posted by Q99
They're a good deal stronger than Jedi Revan/Malak. They could handle Tol Braga's team too. Jacen studied all kinds of force powers, and with his sister assisting, they should handle Vitiate's force power pretty well. And in melee, well, no question on that two vs one.
Assumptions here.

- Revan was already the most powerful Jedi of his era, as of this point. Malak was among the best.

- Tol Braga's Team isn't made-up of mooks but some of the most powerful Jedi of the Order. Only Vitiate was capable of defeating it.

- Jacen Solo isn't all-knowing. Vitiate have explored the Dark Side in greater depth then anybody else and likely have knowledge and command of techniques that Jacen Solo may not have experience with.

- Vitiate's contests are not about melee.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vitiate have defeated Strike Teams of powerful Jedi and/or Sith on different occasions, so I don't see why he cannot defeat this duo.

Example 1:

The legendary Jedi Revan and Malak confront the Sith Emperor in his throne room on Dromund Kaas. In mere moments, the Jedi lay defeated and consumed by the dark side of the Force.

From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)

Example 2:

The Emperor is more than a man - he is the living embodiment of the dark side. Armed with incalculable powers of corruption, the Emperor easily defeats the Knight, Master Braga, and their fellow Jedi, twisting them all to the dark side.

From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)



Example 3:

He allowed their plan to play out, but when they gathered to confront the Emperor, his punishment was swift and devastating. Eleven members of the Dark Council died in a sudden flash on the steps of the Citadel. The last member Darth Lokess, disappeared forever, though for some centuries some claimed her screams could be heard from the bowels of the Citadel.

From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)


All this proves is that he can fight strike teams. Doesn't prove he can beat Caedus and Jaina at one time.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
All this proves is that he can fight strike teams. Doesn't prove he can beat Caedus and Jaina at one time.
Vitiate have fought those Strike Teams. He have a good case.

Jaina Solo is likely a non-factor. She cannot take on Vitiate and last long.

Darth Caedus have demonstrated the capability to contend with a Jedi Strike Team - putting his martial abilities to good use - but he had circumstances on his side, he wasn't able to overwhelm it with his Force powers otherwise. He is not Vitiate.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You cannot prove your verdict either. We are dealing with hypotheticals here.

Don't get mad because I'm right. Also what says I can't prove my side?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vitiate have fought those Strike Teams. He have a good case.

You cannot prove your verdict either. We are dealing with hypotheticals here.


That he can take on strike teams. Doesn't mean he can defeat this one.

^^^

You need to edit your responses, son.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vitiate have fought those Strike Teams. He have a good case.

Jaina Solo is likely a non-factor. She cannot take on Vitiate and last long.

Darth Caedus have demonstrated the capability to contend with a Jedi Strike Team - putting his martial abilities to good use - but he had circumstances on his side, he wasn't able to overwhelm it with his Force powers otherwise. He is not Vitiate.

You don't have to be vitiate to be able to take out a strike team. You just have to have the power. Caedus himself knows that the Jedi with the exception of Katarn are no match for him. Katarn couldn't oppose Caedus by himself and win at all but he could put up some type of fight. Also he still hadn't fully recovered from his fight with Luke. Also he did use force powers to overwhelm them on different occasions. Even with that he was greater than all of them, even put together.

Jaina definitly is a factor here. She may be the weakest one here but she is till powerful. Put her combined with her brother and these two while not easily take this battle with a good majority.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You don't have to be vitiate to be able to take out a strike team. You just have to have the power. Caedus himself knows that the Jedi with the exception of Katarn are no match for him. Katarn couldn't oppose Caedus by himself and win at all but he could put up some type of fight. Also he still hadn't fully recovered from his fight with Luke. Also he did use force powers to overwhelm them on different occasions. Even with that he was greater than all of them, even put together.
Vitiate would have easily defeated this Jedi Strike Team.

As I said, Darth Caedus isn't Vitiate or his equal.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Jaina definitly is a factor here. She may be the weakest one here but she is till powerful. Put her combined with her brother and these two while not easily take this battle with a good majority.
She is as much of a factor as Satele Shan is. Essentially, non-factor.

The twins.

Caedus can win this alone. With Jaina the twins win solidly.

Vitiate is overblown. Either of the twins could solo

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
She is as much of a factor as Satele Shan is. Essentially, non-factor.

Lol'd

Jaina is better than Satele Shan in every way.

Battle meld seals it. Vitiate dies.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Vitiate is overblown. Either of the twins could solo

You just jealous cause Satele would lose to puberty Vitiate.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vitiate would have easily defeated this Jedi Strike Team.

As I said, Darth Caedus isn't Vitiate or his equal.


She is as much of a factor as Satele Shan is. Essentially, non-factor.


Oh no. If he does win, he has the toughest fight of his life. I like most other believe he loses this one.

Just because you say Caedus isn't vitiate level doesn't mean it's true. He actually could be better. Adding Jaina, the twins win solidly. Caedus by himself is enough to give vitiate a hard time and even possibly win. Jaina seal the deal.

She is much better than Satele Shan. Way better in every way. Comparing her to Satele is like comparing yoda to a padawan who just started his training.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Vitiate is overblown. Either of the twins could solo

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
She is much better than Satele Shan. Way better in every way. Comparing her to Satele is like comparing yoda to a padawan who just started his training.
I'm sorry but that is a completely disproportionate difference.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vitiate would have easily defeated this Jedi Strike Team.

But frankly so did Caedus.