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Spiderman decisively.

Is Meggy strong enough to break webbing?

Omega Red wins

Hasn't Omega Red laughed off Colossus?

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Hasn't Omega Red laughed off Colossus?

poked a finger through his body in his metal form, although his spore and life drain were in play there.

Red wins, no contest.

So Spidey has no SS here then?

Never seen Ock deflecting bullets and he has one-shotted Spider-Man.

So then this is a Spite thread then.

Yeah, but every true comic fan loves seeing the wallcrawler pwnt, so nobody minds.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
So Spidey has no SS here then?

of course he does.

If Spider-Man is fighting for his life he could do it.

If OR is serious, he kills 100 Spider-Men

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Never seen Ock deflecting bullets and he has one-shotted Spider-Man.

Are you trying to say Spider-Man isn't a bullet timer?

I'm saying that Ock with his 4 - upgraded - tentacles is slower than OR with his 2 tentacles.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'm saying that Ock with his 4 - upgraded - tentacles is slower than OR with his 2 tentacles.

This is true, but then the question becomes if he can dodge bullets why was he unable to dodge Doc Ock's attacks?

Originally posted by Surtur
This is true, but then the question becomes if he can dodge bullets why was he unable to dodge Doc Ock's attacks?

Are you really going to bring this up?

Batman, Nightwing, Shitwing, ****nisher, Taskcunt and countless other streets can dodge bullets fine, too -- even after they've been fired -- and they still get tagged in hth a lot.

Basically, dodging bullets doesn't make you unhittable in comics. There is a dozen or so threads that got off-topic'd into this. Sure, when you're fast enough to outrun a gunfire, you logically shouldn't have trouble with avoiding a madman carrying a knife (Joker as an example), yet it doesn't work like this at all.

Anyway, Rossovich has a really great showing against Daredevil - making a short work out of him in a few panels.

Daredevil is the guy who dodged/deflected bullets after they've been fired many times. He's also the guy who has beaten Spider-Man in the past

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Are you really going to bring this up?

Taskcunt Hahaha

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Anyway, Rossovich has a really great showing against Daredevil - making a short work out of him in a few panels.

Daredevil is the guy who dodged/deflected bullets after they've been fired many times. He's also the guy who has beaten Spider-Man in the past

Also used his powers on DD. Either way, Red wins. Its just harder without either of the two abilities.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Also used his powers on DD. Either way, Red wins. Its just harder without either of the two abilities.

In the last panel, after no-selling "dropping through four floors of reinforced steel" and DD's best billy club throw and shocking Matt with his speed, but yes, he did.

We can go back to the Colossus example. When they found him, he was without his armor(durability highly reduced), and hadn't been fed for years. And was basically being cut apart to see just how much he could heal from, all without any sustenance. The first thing Colossus did was punch him across the room and leave a body shaped crater in the wall, and Arkady laughed it off. Then he started fighting back.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Hasn't Omega Red laughed off Colossus? no, in their confrontations Colossus always seems superior, except when red uses the drain and spores.

Red is not tagging Spidey here. Spidey would simply ko him after a little while. His webbing will help greatly

Yeah no. Spidey's not gonna KO Omega Red.

Originally posted by KingD19
We can go back to the Colossus example. When they found him, he was without his armor(durability highly reduced), and hadn't been fed for years. And was basically being cut apart to see just how much he could heal from, all without any sustenance. The first thing Colossus did was punch him across the room and leave a body shaped crater in the wall, and Arkady laughed it off. Then he started fighting back.

"Years" sounds too much. Maybe months. Time between the comic appearances doesn't matter, if that's what you were basing it off. 10 years can pass in real world and in comics it'll be only a single year, perfect example is the Bloodsport tournament...

Other than that, yeah, all true.

Originally posted by h1a8
no, in their confrontations Colossus always seems superior, except when red uses the drain and spores.

Originally posted by h1a8
Red is not tagging Spidey here. Spidey would simply ko him after a little while. His webbing will help greatly

As always, you have no idea what you're talking about.

You don't even read comics -- I caught you not knowing basic facts about Spider-Man and his villains.

In what confrontations Colossus seemed superior? Give me the issue numbers, c'mon Wait, I'll guess. H1A8 fanfiction volume 5 #31? Or maybe The Worst KMCER one-shot?

Red deflected bullets with his tentacles, something that Ock never did. And Ock tags Petey just fine.

Originally posted by h1a8
Red is not tagging Spidey here. Spidey would simply ko him after a little while. His webbing will help greatly

What

Are

You

Man!?

H1 should be exiled from kmc asap.

Spidey dodges machine gun fire like a day job. His SS warns him before the danger (precog). That's why spidey can dodge light speed beams. Red doesn't move faster than a bullet, Spidey does. Spidey has webbing that will slow Red down. A series of hits to the face would more than turn the tables here for spidey. Webbing in the eyes helps.

You realize the same thing could be said about most streets or low metas, yet they always end up getting tagged in hth nonethess?

Daredevil swats away and dodges bullets after they've been fired, didn't help him one bit when Red kicked him in the gut.

Gorgon cuts bullets to pieces and reacts to speedsters, but still gets tagged by low metas. Etc...

Parker has been beaten by Doc Ock plenty of times. He's not winning against Red, who is faster, stronger, more durable and more lethal than Octavius.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You realize the same thing could be said about most streets or low metas, yet they always end up getting tagged in hth nonethess?

Daredevil swats away and dodges bullets after they've been fired, didn't help him one bit when Red kicked him in the gut.

Gorgon cuts bullets to pieces and reacts to speedsters, but still gets tagged by low metas. Etc...

Parker has been beaten by Doc Ock plenty of times. He's not winning against Red, who is faster, stronger, more durable and more lethal than Octavius. most streets can't dodge machine gun fire at all. They simply aim dodge (run out of the way of the aim). Spidey weaves between the bullets.

Swatting bullets away contradicts getting kicked in the gut by a far slower attack.
Either one has the reflexes and speed to bat a bullet or they don't. In a forum, characters who normally dodge or bat bullets will do so.

All characters have low showings. Spidey ratio of dodging to getting hit is like 50:1 Also speed is sometimes ignored in a comic for the sake of the plot. Full capacity remember. If SS is precog and Spidey gets hit by a slower attack then that means he didn't the writer didn't write him with SS at that time.

Spider-Man loses of epic proportions. Nothing in his arsenal can stop Red. H1is trolling per norm. Y u guys get worked up over him is ridiculous

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Never seen Ock deflecting bullets and he has one-shotted Spider-Man. He has deflected bullets. Then Peter while in his old dying body has also deflected bullets. Don't act like Ock one-shotting him is a norm. Red is Deadpool's punching bag these days.

8-armed carbonadium version with each arm as thick as the Kingpin certainly doesn't count.

Originally posted by h1a8
most streets can't dodge machine gun fire at all. They simply aim dodge (run out of the way of the aim). Spidey weaves between the bullets.

Swatting bullets away contradicts getting kicked in the gut by a far slower attack.
Either one has the reflexes and speed to bat a bullet or they don't. In a forum, characters who normally dodge or bat bullets will do so.

All characters have low showings. Spidey ratio of dodging to getting hit is like 50:1 Also speed is sometimes ignored in a comic for the sake of the plot. Full capacity remember. If SS is precog and Spidey gets hit by a slower attack then that means he didn't the writer didn't write him with SS at that time.



Read your own post. You're going insane, h1.

Spiderman gets punched, kicked and raped in the anus in hand-to-hand combat all the time. Red not only has metahuman speed and reflexes, but also indestructible tendrils... it's not a fight Parker can win.

Thing-level strength, durability high enough to no-sell rockets, regenerative healing factor... Parker would sooner break both hands than do some harm to Rossovich.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


Read your own post. You're going insane, h1.

Spiderman gets punched, kicked and raped in the anus in hand-to-hand combat all the time. Red not only has metahuman speed and reflexes, but also indestructible tendrils... it's not a fight Parker can win.

Thing-level strength, durability high enough to no-sell rockets, regenerative healing factor... Parker would sooner break both hands than do some harm to Rossovich.

Remember when Chamber blasted him at point blank with his furnace? Red got blasted a few miles away and got right back up as soon as he crashed into the ground.

Also everything you mentioned isn't even bringing into account his death spores which will bring Spidey down more than a few pegs.

So basically spidey at his worst vs Red at his best. Atleast toss in a high showing or two to make the argument SEEM objective. Jesus...

Also it shouldnt be ignored how useful the webbing would be on a forum setting.

Red is hardly at his best here, seeing as his main powers are turned off.

Well best physical showings.

That's the way he's portrayed as.

Taking adamantium claws, ignoring falling through 4 reinforced steel floors, taking hits from Colossus, no-selling rpg to the chest, fighting for several hours or more without a break...

Even before the Soviet super soldier project, he regen'd from having his brains blown out.

He's casually ripped apart Iron Man armor. Tangled with Adamantium Sabretooth. Been labeled as having "Thing Level Strength". Fought with Colossus and ignored a full on hit from a healthy Colossus before the spores started to take effect.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That's the way he's portrayed as.

Taking adamantium claws, ignoring falling through 4 reinforced steel floors, taking hits from Colossus, no-selling rpg to the chest, fighting for several hours or more without a break...

Even before the Soviet super soldier project, he regen'd from having his brains blown out.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
So basically spidey at his worst vs Red at his best. Atleast toss in a high showing or two to make the argument SEEM objective. Jesus...


Cool, let me try. Defeated Firelord, held his own against 1/2 of the Phoenix force, survived being within the blasting radius of the ultimate nullifier. As long as we're listing best showings as if they're average I think we're good.

Those are Red's only showings. He doesn't have a shitload of appearances, so no low-end BS to be found.

Firelord is a nobody.

He was doing nothing but dying against Magik and Colossus.

UN = Ultimate Nonfeat.

Red also got fisted by Shiklah. In her human form, she didn't event bother to switch to her beast mode for him. At least with Blade she made it look like an effort.

Outcome of that fight - Pete was standing, Colossus and Magik were not.
So stop defending them and Omega Red you commie.

Deadpool stories don't count.

Didn't nightcrawler beat Red by simply dropping him from some height?
http://41.media.tumblr.com/55d89f1fe2d1c237736b1fef0e613142/tumblr_napbua7W4f1rvm5qqo1_1280.jpg
http://41.media.tumblr.com/37f487b5e0c2753d06ff53607ae41ee8/tumblr_napbua7W4f1rvm5qqo2_1280.jpg
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Some unstoppable monster he is......

Read the story first.

I know for certain that you never do Not with the X-Men, at least.

Anyway, here is healthy Omega Red falling through four floors of reinforced steel:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/9055/1128275-daredevil368widowskiss0jm1.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Read the story first.

I know for certain that you never do Not with the X-Men, at least.
I have.



Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Anyway, here is healthy Omega Red falling through four floors of reinforced steel:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/9055/1128275-daredevil368widowskiss0jm1.jpg
That's daredevil monologuing.

So you know that Red has been experimented on, tortured and without his armor (obviously) for a considerable time.

Before that fall, Red took punches from Colossus and stabs from Wolverine. Do you even know how NC's teleportation works on people that haven't had any experience with it? It drains stamina to the point you lose consciousness.

That's Daredevil stating what just happened.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So you know that Red has been experimented on, tortured and without his armor (obviously) for a considerable time.

Before that fall, Red took punches from Colossus and stabs from Wolverine. Do you even know how NC's teleportation works on people that haven't had any experience with it? It drains stamina to the point you lose consciousness.

That's Daredevil stating what just happened.
Yes, I did. Red wasn't stated to be weakened.

Yes, I know how Kurt's powers works. But it goes for normal people and Arkady has fought Kurt before.

Did he? Why not post scans of him actually falling through steel floors?

It doesn't need to be stated. It's the only logical conclusion. How can you be at your peak when you've been incarcerated and cut open again, again and again...

No, it doesn't only go for normal people. Even f*cking Wolverine was affected by it. So it could easily work on WEAKENED Omega.

Because I'm at work and cannot find any decent scans online. Here:

http://www.colorguides.com/ebaystore/daredevil_cg_iss368pg10.jpg

even with the death spores in play, he pretty muck f'd up ironman (a remote ironman, but still...) did he not...?

pete is likely outclassed in this one, though i think it's closer than spiderhaterFTW thinks. sneer

Spider-man f's up Iron Man every other week. At this point it's like an initiation for every new armor Tony builds. sneer

Originally posted by leonidas
even with the death spores in play, he pretty muck f'd up ironman (a remote ironman, but still...) did he not...?

pete is likely outclassed in this one, though i think it's closer than spiderhaterFTW thinks. sneer

He lost, actually. After penetrating the armor, Red was surprised that his pheromones/life drain weren't working and got his ass kicked.

Basically, Tony was lucky he wasn't in the suit. In my honest opinion, he should remote control it more often. Not only it's safer that way, it allows him to beat opponents he otherwise wouldn't be able to, like OR.

Originally posted by SamZED
Spider-man f's up Iron Man every other week. At this point it's like an initiation for every new armor Tony builds. sneer

And it makes no sense, as Tony has monster strength and durability feats dwarfing the best of Spider-Man. He's no slouch in the speed/reflexes department, either... hell, even his agility is amped enough to matter.

Tony "f'd up" Spidey, too.

To be fair, Tony's durability in the suit almost always>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remote controlled suits. He mentioned something about a molecular binding mechanism that happens when he's in the suit. Not to mention shields.

Shields and the mechanism can be activated just as well without Tony being in the armor.

What is really protecting him is writer's armor. Or we could say that remote suits suffer from the ninja law.

Anyway, carbonadium is more than tough enough to go through the Modular Armor, especially backed up by Red's strength.

He never seems to put the extra protection on his remote armors. Like ive never seen one use shields. And they suffer BADLY from ninja law.

The one Red fought was controlled by Tony himself, it wasn't on the automatic pilot or anything.

Carbonadium + Thing-lv strength = 99% of IM armors penetrated.

Also depends on armor. The black and gold held up to terrax's axe

It did? I remember Illuminati fighting Terrax, but not that specific scene.

Anyway, it was a Terrax from alternate reality, IIRC. Means the planet-busting feat is not usable for him.

I dont think Spidey is strong Enough to seriously hurt Red. Hed need a weapon that would be able to penetrate him and his armor, hitting a major organ or something.
I dont think the armor that Stark was mentally controlling was some regular piece of junk. The armor should still be highly durable even without shielding. If caught in the tendrils, its not looking good for Spidey at all. Thats more likely to happen than him being seriously hurt by SM. Imo.

Modular armor is one of my favorites. Of course it wasn't a piece of junk.

Hell, that armor is a symbol of the excellent season 2 of IM TAS from the nineties.