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Peak HoT fights Vader in two rounds. He faces:

Round 1: RotS Vader

Round 2: RotJ Vader


Both are all-out battles.


Setting: The Senate Rotunda

No amp/prep time.


Who wins?

Hot gets annihilated

Vader stomps in both

Yeah, loses both

HoT wins both.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Wins both.
Who? Vader or HoT?

HoT loses round 1.

HoT gets obliterated in Round 2.

Originally posted by Nephthys
HoT wins both. Neph, I like you but you over rate most Tor characters.

ROTJ Vader lols at HoT.

Suitless Vader has a much harder time of it, but wins anyway. (Anakin would stomp almost as hard as ROTJ Vader.)

Interesting responses. So HoT is firmly below both suitless and suited Vader then.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Neph, I like you but you over rate most Tor characters.

Alternative I don't rate Anakin as highly as some????

Neph be like:

"I don't rank SWTOR characters high, I just rank non-SWTOR characters low. Completely different."

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Neph be like:

"I don't rank SWTOR characters high, I just rank non-SWTOR characters low. Completely different."



That was brilliant.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Neph be like:

"I don't rank SWTOR characters high, I just rank non-SWTOR characters low. Completely different."


Nice

Well I was joking so good to get a few laughs.

Originally posted by Stigma
Interesting responses. So HoT is firmly below both suitless and suited Vader then.

Nope.

ROTJ Vader might be able to win due to his experience and refinement (although it would certainly be a tough fight), but ROTS suit-less Vader would get trounced. At that point he was too much of a reckless, unpolished idiot. The HoT was far more level-headed, a better tactician and probably more skilful.

lol @ suitless Vader getting trounced.

Legends!Vader has better feats than HoT tbh.

Both versions of Vader win. They're both good fights, though.

Originally posted by Trocity
lol @ suitless Vader getting trounced.

Just saying it as it is.

Anakin, i.e. "Suit-less Vader" was skilled sure but he was too basic and straightforward, relying purely on a direct Form V offensive and little else. Plus he wasn't a very tactical fighter, mostly relying on his skill and power to win his fights.

I am quite confident that the HoT would be able to outwit and outmaneuver him.

Just like Dooku did

HoT > Dooku, remember?

o rite i forgot

Originally posted by Trocity
HoT >>>>> Sith Lord of Vitiate's Empire > Dooku, remember?

Fixed tbh

Hey, Legend only said that Skotia and your average Sith Lord is the equal to Dooku. Like, ok, so Dooku hasn't been properly tested like them, he's still kind of powerful I suppose.

You suppose.

Riiiiight.

Anyways, Suitless Vader is NOT the same thing as Anakin.

Anakin>Dooku
Suitless Vader<ROTS Obi Wan
Dooku>>Obi Wan

Anakin takes quite a hit in power when he turns.

Look, it's just a ground rock fact reality that Dooku didn't has as much competition as Warriors like Skotia and Decimus has. If he hads been in their situation maybe he wouldn't has done as well. And like it or not, even a "powerful" fighter such as Nox had to severely weaken Skotia before defeating him. I rest my ****ing case.

Something something red text bigotry dread masters ones

Originally posted by Carthage
Vader stomps in both

FANON nonsense. Hero of Tython is perhaps the only Jedi in canon to has been confirmed to improve in force potential and dueling ability after age 7.

So when will Darth Baras and Darth Ekkage be allowed to marry?

When they can raise the ****ing dead tbh. http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-clint.gif

Have Baras been confirmed to raise the dead in encyclopedic medium?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Have Baras been confirmed to raise the dead in encyclopedic medium?

Baras have been confirmed to be a master of the Dark Side. If SWTOR-Acolyte level force users like Ventress can raise the dead, Baras would has an easy time of it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Something something red text bigotry dread masters ones

Originally posted by Selenial
FANON nonsense.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
encyclopedic medium


LMAO.

Nice to see DMB joining in the fun, too.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
You suppose.

Riiiiight.

Anyways, Suitless Vader is NOT the same thing as Anakin.

He may have become a bit more aggressive but that's not a big change. Overall there wasn't much difference.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Anakin>Dooku
Suitless Vader<ROTS Obi Wan
Dooku>>Obi Wan

Yeah, that's ABC logic and ABC logic is for morons. You need to look at the circumstances.

"Suit-less Vader vs. Obi-Wan" had a bunch of factors that have to be taken into account. For instance the location. Say what you will about the "high ground" line, it is true that Vader had to jump over some lava to get to Obi-Wan. Say the fight had taken place on a grassy meadow where he didn't have to jump over anything. Do you think the duel would have ended EXACTLY the same way?

Circumstances make all the difference.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Anakin takes quite a hit in power when he turns.

Not really. His "power" didn't change at all.