Aurra Sing vs Savage Opress

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Emperordmb
Brains vs Brawn

who the **** wins?

EmperorSidious2
Brains. Aurra Sing.

WildBantha88
Sing

NewGuy01
Brawn.

ILS
The side that has both lol.

WildBantha88
Originally posted by ILS
The side that has both lol. so Sing...

ILS
nah

McP
Savage comfortable

SunRazer
Aurra gets ripped in half.

WildBantha88
Sing is comparable in skill, is more experienced, faster, and has a wide array of weapons and unorthodox strategies that will get the better of Opress

Fated Xtasy
Originally posted by WildBantha88
Sing is comparable in skill, is more experienced, faster, and has a wide array of weapons and unorthodox strategies that will get the better of Opress

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Aurra's strength is incredible as is her durability and seeing how she's a dual wielding specialist and an unorthodox fighter, she's winning this one.

NTJack0
Aurra boots his head off.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
seeing how she's a dual wielding specialist and an unorthodox fighter, she's winning this one.How will that help her win? :mmm:Orly?

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Sing is comparable in skill, is more experienced, fasterIs that the truth?

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Irony being that Savage overpowered Adi with the Force:

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And defeated Koon by moving to fast:

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laughing out loud

Aurra Sing is out of her league here, she won't be fast enough against someone who's speed blitzed Halsey, and she'll be completely overwhelmed by Force powers that even Dooku and Ventress combined struggled to handle.

All of her experience, skill and unorthodoxy will be of no help against Savage's sheer power. He crushes.

Nephthys
Didn't Aurra Sing almost kill Darth Caedus?

Beniboybling
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All I can find is an instance where Sing poisoned some people associated with him...

I'm gonna go ahead and say no.

Nephthys
Imma go ahead and say yes. It's in Tempest. Before Jacen became Caedus but that's irrelevant to his combat skills. She did pretty well.

Beniboybling
Well isn't that interesting. :mmm:

NewGuy01
Yeah, I haven't any comment on whether or not, or to what degree Aurra improved over the years, I wouldn't be the one to know.

On the other hand, assuming we're talking about her RotE incarnation that she's famous for, she's hardly a match for Savage. She *might* do better than Adi on behalf of her trickery, but ultimately Savage can physically handle most of the punishment Aurra can dish, and he'll mow her over.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Orly?



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Since when is surviving a boulder being slammed into you a bad thing?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Is that the truth?

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She didn't have her lightsabers on her for whatever reason in that instance. She's fully equipped here.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Since when is surviving a boulder being slammed into you a bad thing?You missing the point, that Sing was and is easily incapacitated by TK.
Again the point eludes you, Sing may have not had a lightsaber to defend herself but the fact remains she was unable to evade an attack that could have cut her head clean off.

Fated Xtasy
Originally posted by Beniboybling
How will that help her win? :mmm:

Seeing as how a lesser experienced Jar'Kai (Obi)user took Advantage if Opress' tunnel vision, imma go ahead and say Aurra's Jar'kai is going to be prominent in this match up.



Except that wasn't a TK attack, that was Gallia throwing a giant rock right at Sing's face. So um wrong.



So... I'm guessing you haven't had a good look at her RT? The ones with stuff from after RotS?



Except it wasn't a TK attack, it was a Boulder hurled with the force, so that's sorta irrelevant dude.



So you're resorting to using her retconned version? Where her force sensitivity is non-existent? Let's look at the legends Aurra Sing who has dodged omnidirectional fire before her prime, created near invisible after images of herself and tooled Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan easily. This isn't even the tip of the blade.




Nah, she won't be crushed at all by the force, unless you consider her shrugging pff Jacen Solo's TK blast a small feat, she won't be outdueled because her skill and power is just superior. Her TK, is destructive, and her endurance is high tier.


I recommend reading Bantha's RT, it's a good source for all of her feats.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Seeing as how a lesser experienced Jar'Kai (Obi)user took Advantage if Opress' tunnel vision, imma go ahead and say Aurra's Jar'kai is going to be prominent in this match up.Which was not a result of Jar'Kai, but his mastery over the Ataru form. erm

Sadly, Sing has neither Kenobi's skills nor his strength.Using TK. :upmesseding's one feat after ROTS isn't enough for me to make a judgement on, which is why I'm considering her ROTS incarnation. Savage would capable defeat that version, as or NJO? She'd probably give him a good fight, but still goes down.It was a TK attack, and Savage can do better.Retconned? Where is it stated she's not Force sensitive?

And Savage has speed blitzed Jedi, moved to fast for non-Force sensitives to react and surpassed Plo Koon in speed, one of the most powerful Jedi in the Order.

So what's your point?
Again if Dooku and Ventress can't shrug off his attacks, then Sing can't. Heck to be honest I'm struggling to see proof Savage can't straight up ragdoll her.

And great, her TK is inferior to Savage's, as is her endurance. What exactly does she have on him?

ILS
I think DMBE taking a loss here

carthage
The empire only loses when Bane dies

WildBantha88

ILS
"Aurra Sing can infuse her lightsaber with Force lightning. What's Savage got on that?"

lmao, it's just shitty art. Same comic that had bendy lightsabers.

"Secondly is that this is a canon source and she might not even be a Force wielder in the new canon. She has never been shown wielding a lightsaber, has never been eluded to as a dark Jedi and has never done anything with the Force in the new canon."

Hmm.. wonder if this excuse flies for TCW Grievous. smokin'

Nephthys
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WildBantha88
A character who tends to use a lightsaber and suddenly in the new canon willingly walks into a meeting with a Jedi in a small room and leaves her lightsabers behind? Everything in the new canon on Aurra Sing has been about her being a badass bounty hunter and marksman. In the new canon it defiantly seems as though they are taking her the non-force sensitive route

Emperordmb
I will clarify, this is the Legends Continuity version of both characters, and both characters are in their prime.

Fated Xtasy
Originally posted by WildBantha88
A character who tends to use a lightsaber and suddenly in the new canon willingly walks into a meeting with a Jedi in a small room and leaves her lightsabers behind? Everything in the new canon on Aurra Sing has been about her being a badass bounty hunter and marksman. In the new canon it defiantly seems as though they are taking her the non-force sensitive route

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Nice response bantha, wish I had my pc instead of mah phone.

|King Joker|
If this takes place on neutral ground Aurra gets plowed over, but if it's like in a jungle or some shit where Aurra has more chances to trip Opress up, I guess I can see Aurra scraping a win? Savage wins a majority though, in my opinion.

ILS
Originally posted by |King Joker|
If this takes place on neutral ground Aurra gets plowed over, but if it's like in a jungle or some shit where Aurra has more chances to trip Opress up, I guess I can see Aurra scraping a win? Savage wins a majority though, in my opinion. Trees are of no consequence to the Force, otherwise good analysis. thumb up

Beniboybling
Originally posted by WildBantha88
Alright children im here. Lets all settle down so that uncle Bantha can all teach you a thing or twoI look forward to being educated. http://r35.imgfast.net/users/3513/11/32/39/smiles/2570579909.png
Terrifying.

However considering Savage's armor can take glancing blows from a lightsaber, she'd have to successfully impale or dismember him with such an attack, or else it's only going to make him angrier.

Savage is faster and stronger than Jinn, and his saberstaff affords him a better defense, and J'Mikel is no better than the Jedi Master he blitzed on Devaron. So I await your proof she'd succeed.

On the other hand, one of Jar'Kai's primary weaknesses is the fact that it divides one's strength between the two blades, making the wielder much vulnerable to power attacks. Oh dear.Because Savage can't throw projectiles? He can. Point being that Sing was presumably incapacitated by that attack, so yes, she is vulnerable.

Jacen with a single Force push sent her flying, a Force wave from Savage is likely to be just as if not more effective, difference being Sing won't have a wife and kids to prevent Savage from following up, and blowing her away.
I won't press the point because DMB specified Legends only.

In regards to the rest, Fated Xtasy already raised those points bro. He was not successful. thumb upOriginally posted by Nephthys
http://i.imgur.com/xLF8UHo.gif Unless you have another example of Sing wielding Force lightning, I'm going to chalk that up as artistic license in grave need of renewal. thumb up

On the other hand:

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What has Sing got on these displays, hmm?Prove she can replicate this against Savage.Only one of which can actually harm her opponent.
Yet was put down by Adi Gallia. thumb up

Beniboybling
Originally posted by |King Joker|
If this takes place on neutral ground Aurra gets plowed over, but if it's like in a jungle or some shit where Aurra has more chances to trip Opress up, I guess I can see Aurra scraping a win? Savage wins a majority though, in my opinion. Trip him up? This isn't Zannah...

|King Joker|
That poor girl can never catch a break...

Fated Xtasy
Originally posted by Beniboybling
However considering Savage's armor can take glancing blows from a lightsaber....



Except from that one time where Kenobi amputated his leg.



Or completely throw him off to the point where he can't do jack ala Kenobi style.



So you think Savage is superior to Darth Maul then? who, according to several sources, was nearly killed by the combined might of Obi-Wan and Jinn, and nearly killed by Jinn alone?

Need i remind you that Jinn's own strength sent shudders down Maul's arms and that Jinn met Maul's speed several times?



Save for that time with Kenobi, the time he was unable to deflect or dodge omnidirectional fire and against Maul when he whipped him.



Each and everyone of the opponents she's collected her saber's from are considered to be the greatest the Jedi had to offer.



Odd that a physically gifted man like Sharad, and later his son, A'sharad weren't able to completely over power her in a duel despite the fact that She took a boulder to the face while A'sharad remained unscathed.

Stranger still, is the fact that she's sent A'sharad flying with a boot to the face, twisted a droideka's arm and made it shoot it self, how her kicks where enough to break Jacen Solo's ribs. Yeah, I sincerely doubt that weakness applies to Aurra.



Incapacitated? She was on a Speeder, deflecting fire and then Adi smashed her with a Boulder. Aurra(whom both Dark Woman and Ki-Adi noted would NOT die from that) escaped and then infiltrated the ship where A'sharad was guarding the senator and she proceeded to kick his hide.

If anything, the only reason why Aurra' got bouldered was because her attention was on the barrage of blaster fire hitting her.



First off all when you start your argument and mention that it was Jacen Solo, you should realize that it's miracle she even survived since others where completely tooled. Hell even Jacen Notes that the Push should have caused more damage, but it didn't.



So you're saying Savage>Jacen in TK erm

If Sing survived Jacen's powerful TK, she's going to survive a TK assault by Savage.



He's no Jacen Solo, that's like saying Savage can TK Luke because Desann did it erm



She's a confirmed user of force lightning via the Star Wars Fact File, which(iirc) came out after Once Bitten(where the blade being infused with force lightning comes from) So yeah, i wonder how that'll end for Savage.

On the other hand:



In a fit of anger that he never replicates again, not even against someone with a weak force barrier like Kenobi or even Asajj, curious


So, after these two powerful and talented duelists fight each other for a long time, Savage decides to take advantage of their fatigue and hits em with a power attack? By god, that's impressive. Lets just ignore the fact that Ventress was dueling a superior swordsman alone, lets ignore that Dooku's attention was divided between a highly skilled Jedi Killer and Savage. Yep, none of that happened. Nope, not at all.



Kenobi and Anakin where the caught in the Force Wave that Savage used out of anger and never replicates again? Not even against the same opponent?



Oh, so we're just going to ignore how Maul's there?

Or how about how he never, ever even showcases that raw power ever again against prominent Jedi?





You mean aside from sending someone who faced Vader stumbling backwards with her strength, drawing the breath out from Jacen's lungs with a powerful kick and moving too fast for him.





Bantha forgot to mention how Aurra was hunting Mana(the jedi she killed) and fought her before fighting the powerful duo. Score one for Pale lady



Unless she shoots him in the legs or the face.Maybe she drives her foot blade into his face or leg, throws her knife into his face or jams it into his hand. Yeah, she's got lots of options.



A woman regarded to be Qui-Gon's equal, among the best the Order had to offer, was considered to be an incredibly skilled and unorthodox duelist and was also regarded as a Powerful force user.

Don't forget that afterwords Aurra went on to beat the crap out of A'sharad in a duel despite taking that boulder to the face.

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Darth Thor
Originally posted by Beniboybling
:mmm:Orly?

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Is that sped up?

ILS
All gifyoutube gifs are.

Darth Thor
Oh right.

ILS
Or perhaps Plo is just that much faster than Aurra. Happy Dance

WildBantha88

NewGuy01
Aurra's surprise tactic could potentially work on Savage, but I suspect a stab wound may not put him down.

Hell, Aurra may not even be put in a position where she can pull it out on him; suppose it depends on how well she adapts to his pounding.

ILS
I can't even summon words for this thread, personally.

As long as the general public sans DMBE agrees that Aurra gets her ass beat and her dick sucked I'm cool.

WildBantha88
Originally posted by ILS
I can't even summon words for this thread, personally.

As long as the general public sans DMBE agrees that Aurra gets her ass beat and her dick sucked I'm cool. your still salty over the Aurra Vs Jango debate aren't you? Yeno the debate that you ran away from

Beniboybling
So it's two against one now? That's hardly fair... For you. http://r35.imgfast.net/users/3513/11/32/39/smiles/2570579909.pngHe doesn't need to be adaptable, he just needs to be fast enough to block the second blade. Not only is he faster than Jinn, but again his saberstaff provides him with a greater surface area and therefore superior defense. He'll manage.Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Except from that one time where Kenobi amputated his leg.That's wasn't a glancing blow. no expression

This is a glancing blow. thumb upUnfortunately Sing has neither his skills nor the environmental advantage.Sure thing hon. Care to provide these sources? On the other hand:
Though considering Sing was forced to flee from Kenobi and Jinn, while Maul for all intents and purposes defeated them, I fail to see your point.Where he was in an enclosed space, which would have restricted the use of his weapon, and against an opponent considerably superior to Sing.Before his prime, and against a dozen battle droids and three droidekas, and yet despite that managed to deflect the majority. thumb upWho appeared invisible to Komari Vosa, despite having a broken arm, moved so fast as to appear invisible to holocameras, and was capable of blitzing 4/5 opponents in an eyeblink. And as Savage remarked he's "grown so powerful" since accomplishing those feats.

In short, he eclipses Sing's ability.Proof please.Because any of them have comparable strength to Savage. laughing out loud Sing may have compensated for this weakness, but is still remains, and she remains unable to apply her full strength with two handed strikes or blocks. Savage's immense strength will push her to her breaking point, and that weakness will become all too apparent.
Uh-huh, Gallia stopped Sing in her tracks, preventing her intervention and giving them time to retreat, evidently she was incapacitated, for however long.

Point being Savage can do better, and he won't be running away.

Beniboybling
I never said it wouldn't, but it wouldn't have kept him down.I'm saying that Savage's Force waves will send Aurra flying just if not more effectively. Infer from that what you like but the fact remains that if Savage's repulses are effective against the likes of Maul, Ventress and Dooku, they will be effective against Sing too.

Will it kill her? No. But it will off-balance her, shutdown her offense, and put her on the back foot. Sing isn't going to get anything on Savage if he can blow her away at a moments notice, and while in open terrain Sing may come out unscathed, if there are obstacles in the way she'll be worn down by repeated injury.Fair enough.Seeing as he's tanked Dooku's lighting without lasting injury, it will probably just piss him off.

Making him even more deadly. thumb upI think your forgetting a few things:

1. Savage is stated to have grown steadily stronger since then.

2. Savage is always drawing on his rage, all he needs is a trigger to tap into this level of power i.e. Sing prodding him with her lightning stick.

3. If Savage can muster enough power to swat Dooku, he'll have no trouble ragdolling the grossly inferior Sing.

In short, if Savage is pressed hard enough by Sing he'll destroy her, and if he doesn't, she'll lose anyway.

And for the record, Savage replicated that Force wave feat in Death Sentence - something you both conveniently ignored. wink
You realise the battlation was at least one hundred strong, and they wiped out most of them with this attack yes?Can we have a name? Or is he that much of a mook?Because Sing's kicks are going to effect Savage. laughing out loudSo your saying Sing is faster than Jacen now?I care. rolling on floor laughingHe has something called a lightsaber.

Unless your suggesting she engages him with blasters at close range. laughing out loud
Doesn't have his pain threshold? He's shrugged off getting his arm cut off, and as a Zabrak is naturally resistant to pain. I knife wound will probably just piss him off.So she's running at Savage with a knife now? laughingIn which to die. laughing out loudSource(s)?
All of whom would destroy Sing. thumb up

ILS
Originally posted by WildBantha88
your still salty over the Aurra Vs Jango debate aren't you? Yeno the debate that you ran away from Lol, I actively left the debate because you and Fated are particularly biased and persistent. You set up the OP itself and then started debating solely for Aurra. Like, maybe if you were even slightly impartial and fair you'd be worth entertaining.

Having said that, once my current personal debate on CV is finished I'd be happy to debate you under the table as well. Sound fun? eek!

Emperordmb
I don't know what the hell you're talking about ILS. I set up the OP, not them.

And I hardly see anyone on team Savage not debating soely for Savage.

And if it's ridiculously biased to argue for a character you made a respect thread for and are impressed with their feats, then your signature has a link to a list of characters that nobody should take anything you say about them seriously anymore.

ILS
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I don't know what the hell you're talking about ILS. I set up the OP, not them.

And I hardly see anyone on team Savage not debating soely for Savage.


I was referring to the Jango vs Aurra OP Bantha set up on Comic Vine. thumb up



Nah, I'm saying that it's hard to take Bantha seriously when he sets up Aurra vs Jango and then protests that Aurra wins for the entire thread. I'm also not saying there's anything necessarily wrong with being horrendously biased, but I usually debate people to come to a conclusion, and that isn't something you can do with Bantha or Fated.

DarthAnt66
This is a new low for ILS...




you know better than to insult someone who gets beat by their parents nightly.

Selenial
Originally posted by ILS
Nah, I'm saying that it's hard to take Bantha seriously when he sets up Aurra vs Jango and then protests that Aurra wins for the entire thread. I'm also not saying there's anything necessarily wrong with being horrendously biased, but I usually debate people to come to a conclusion, and that isn't something you can do with Bantha or Fated.

We've been debating Agen Kolar vs Shaak Ti for months http://r35.imgfast.net/users/3513/11/32/39/smiles/3024136639.gif

ILS
Sel =/= Bantha

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Fated Xtasy

Fated Xtasy

carthage
Originally posted by ForklifterMatt
Lol @ Fated and Bantha trying to debate

Hi Matt

Emperordmb
I C wat U did thur!

WildBantha88
Originally posted by ILS

Nah, I'm saying that it's hard to take Bantha seriously when he sets up Aurra vs Jango and then protests that Aurra wins for the entire thread. I'm also not saying there's anything necessarily wrong with being horrendously biased, but I usually debate people to come to a conclusion, and that isn't something you can do with Bantha or Fated. First off I was debating that it could go either way. Secondly you were protesting that Jango wins the entire thread because that's kind of what people do in a debate...have different opinions and discuss why they feel that way. And I am open to reaching a conclusion but instead of actually convincing me of your point of view you just get all pissed off that someone has a different opinion than you and leave. And you don't take any of the DMBE seriously because we don't take part in your massive troll fests and we deffend unpopular characters. Instead of having a debate you leave with you panties all in a bunch and try and scrutinize me for defending a character. Here's a news flash for you, I'm not the *******, you are. You guys just don't like me and my fellow DMBE members because we act more mature than you people

Fated Xtasy
Bantha, it's cool. Do as the code dictates. Feel the emotion, acknowledge it and let it go. Lets stay on topic, please.

ILS
Originally posted by WildBantha88
Here's a news flash for you, I'm not the *******, you are. You guys just don't like me and my fellow DMBE members because we act more mature than you people Lmfao, I thought I was meant to be the angry one?
*defend characters you like. And you're going to have a rough time sitting behind the "obscure characters are underrated :'(" card as long as you have the likes of the B-Team in dogshit town.

You're horrendously biased, hypocritical, play the victim and on top of all of that your stubborn denial that your favourites might be getting overrated rivals that of a brick wall. thumb up

DarthAnt66
Someone apply lube to Bantha's ******* to make this slaughter less painful. This is truly legendary.

WildBantha88
Originally posted by ILS

*defend characters you like. And you're going to have a rough time sitting behind the "obscure characters are underrated :'(" card as long as you have the likes of the B-Team in dogshit town.

You're horrendously biased, hypocritical, play the victim and on top of all of that your stubborn denial that your favourites might be getting overrated rivals that of a brick wall. thumb up I defend characters that I have researched, reading all their material and over analyzing all of it, AKA characters I know inside and out. Sure bias comes along with this but so does superior knowledge. I have been moving away from the more obscure characters recently but let's talk about this. The whole obscure characters are underrated is what I was saying last year so stop making accusations based on year old info. Also the B-Team are not obscure characters and I don't have them in dogshit town.

I will admit to bias, but you are the hypocrit not me. You act like a stand up good guy on CV but then go balls out troll on KMC. You act like you are this fair and knowledgable person but then just ignore information that doesn't fit your fancy or when it comes from someone you don't like. I defend these less popular characters because of people like you with their noses in the air that don't even consider that there opinions of these cheracters might be misconcieved and don't give them a second glance. I am not the victim, I will just close this webpage and go on with my life. Instead you are the victim of your own myopicness. Despite all this I research these characters for people like you in an attempt to make the SW community as a whole more diligent. I am not angry only annoyed. At the end of the day you don't have to like me, I'm a necessary evil even if you don't see it.

ILS
Originally posted by WildBantha88
I defend characters that I have researched, reading all their material and over analyzing all of it, AKA characters I know inside and out. Sure bias comes along with this
Glad we agree.

Man, you were well ahead of your time. rolling on floor laughing

Sounds about right, yeah. laughing

L.M.F.A.O.

Truly noble of you. thumb up

Thanks bro. I mean, I still don't really care about Aurra Sing but your Gnost thread isn't too shabby. thumb up

You are beyond hilarious sometimes holy shit. laughing laughing out loud laughing laughing out loud laughing out loud

|King Joker|
we should all just be friends and go get lattes or something at a Starbucks that seems fun imo lets do it

Beniboybling
Mmm, sounds good, as long as the DMB crew are buying. thumb up

Fated Xtasy
Originally posted by |King Joker|
we should all just be friends and go get lattes or something at a Starbucks that seems fun imo lets do it

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