Darth Malgus/Hero of Tython vs. Mace Windu/Obi Wan ROTS

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carthage
Round 1: Sabers only

Round 2: Force duel

Round 3: All out Fight

Battle takes place in the Cave of the Aing Tii

DarthAnt66
The Hero is the weak link. Team two wins.

Nephthys
Obi Wan is the weak link. Team two dies.

DarthAnt66
How is Kenobi the weak link? His skill with a blade rivals that with the Count or Mace, and his Force powers are comparable or superior to that of the Hero's.

Sinious
R1: Team 2
R2: Team 1
R3: Team 1

Based
Team 2 all three.

FreshestSlice
Team 2, Team 1, Team 2.

SunRazer
Team 1 wins Force but definitely don't win the others. It's a close fight, anyway.

McP
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Team 2, Team 1, Team 2.

Selenial
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Team 2, Team 1, Team 2.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
How is Kenobi the weak link?

How is the Hero, really?



Loosely, yeah; he's still probably not quite as good as either, though.



His physical demonstrations of Force use are pretty comparable, but it's pretty obvious that the Hero is more powerful tbh.

Sinious
HoT has defended against Vitiate's TK(Vitiate was still powerful enough to collapse the Dark Temple with it) where Kenobi in his prime was easily taken out by Dooku.

Malgus would wreck Kenobi with the force while HoT fights Windu. I'm not sure why people think team 2 wins here.

FreshestSlice
Vitiate's TK during the fight would not collapse a single building. The fact that you do something in the thralls of death is not reflective of your power in every combat situation, especially when weakened. There's also the fact that the HoT was TK'd several times in cutscene effortlessly by Vitiate and Friends.

DarthAnt66
thumb up Also, not all TK attacks unleash the same power. For example, compare Revan's failed telekinesis against the Imperial Guard to that of his asteroid feat on the Foundry.

Sinious
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Vitiate's TK during the fight would not collapse a single building. .

Proof?



Which is why it's an even more impressive feat for Vitiate.



Not sure what you're referring to.

Nephthys
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Vitiate's TK during the fight would not collapse a single building. The fact that you do something in the thralls of death is not reflective of your power in every combat situation, especially when weakened. There's also the fact that the HoT was TK'd several times in cutscene effortlessly by Vitiate and Friends.

Vitiate wasn't dead or even dying though. erm

Lmao at your point though. Yeah, Vitiate's power while that badly wounded and weakened wouldn't be reflective of his power. Going into that fight he would have been a lot stronger! thumb up

FreshestSlice
Besides the part where he died? It's not like Vitiate died because he collapsed the Dark Temple on himself.
Originally posted by Sinious
Proof?

Besides the fact that the room was very much intact? In contrast to what happens with the Wrath on Hoth, where the room was clearly collapsing.

No it really isn't.

The vast majority of TOR boss that the HoT has faced has TK'd them at least once, including Vitiate in the fight you're mentioning, as well as Braga, much more noticeably.

Nephthys
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Besides the part where he died? It's not like Vitiate died because he collapsed the Dark Temple on himself.

Yes. Yes it is.

"I will not be your trophy. If I must die, I chose how - and everything dies with me."

The Hero clearly intended to capture him and bring him to justice and outright says so. He was badly wounded but he would survive.


(also its pretty hard to find a youtube of sparing Vitiate, everyone kills that ****er)

Tondemonai
Originally posted by Sinious
R1: Team 2
R2: Team 1
R3: Team 1

thumb up

Sinious
Originally posted by FreshestSlice

Besides the fact that the room was very much intact? In contrast to what happens with the Wrath on Hoth, where the room was clearly collapsing.

So what? Just because he didn't try to collapse the building, it doesn't mean that he couldn't have. Especially considering that he did do exactly that while even more weakened afterwards.


You can choose to ignore it as much as you want. Doesn't change the facts.



HoT leaped towards Braga and was caught midair. Even Luke Skywalker can be caught off guard by weak force users like that. Who else are you referring to?

EmperorSidious2
Sabers - Team 2

Force Only - Team 1. Kenobi isn't powerful enough

All out - Team 2

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