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Who's feat was more impressive to you?


(DoS) Doomsday's Feat

The Justice League (G.L Guy Gardner, Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Maxima, Fire, Ice, and Bloodwynd) responds to a emergency call which leads them to a confrontation with the Doomsday monster.

In the aftermath of Doomsday defeating the Justice League, it leads to a showdown with Superman.



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Blue Marvel's Feat


Blue Marvel took on the Avengers team of ( Ms. Marvel, Ares, She-Hulk, Wonder Man, Iron MAn)

In turn leads Blue Marvel to a derict confrontation with Sentry.

Doomsday definitely.

Doomsday only because he killed Superman, Blue Marvel fought the tougher team, under different circumstances, but he didnt seal the deal on Sentry.

Blue Marvel because he fought and defeated more powerful peeps than Doomsday.

Doomsday's feat was far more impressive, because he actually defeated and killed the golden boy of DC. Sure, it didn't last long, but imagine if Thor or Hulk had a storyline which ended with their death, at the hands of someone who physically beat them to death - no energy drain, no exotic weaponry, just sheer punching. That would be impressive as phuck.

Agreed.
Fighting a more powerful team, while more impressive in itself, isnt enough without the proverbial death blow.

How the hell can you compare these two feats when the motivation was completely different? No one in the Marvel fight was trying to KILL the other, nor was Blue Marvel a mindless, soulless beast who needed to die by any means necessary.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Doomsday's feat was far more impressive, because he actually defeated and killed the golden boy of DC. Sure, it didn't last long, but imagine if Thor or Hulk had a storyline which ended with their death, at the hands of someone who physically beat them to death - no energy drain, no exotic weaponry, just sheer punching. That would be impressive as phuck.

Doomsday died though.

Originally posted by carver9
Doomsday died though.

It doesn't take away from what happened, though.

Imagine Hulk fighting someone, punching so hard they break their hands....then finally managing to defeat them, but in the process, gets 'killed' (neither one of them really 'died', as such). That would be incredibly impressive, I'd argue that due to it being DC's golden boy, it would be even more impressive.

THE cash cow. THE benchmark of physical strength in DC - physically beaten to death, whilst he himself was breaking his hands punching him. You're telling me that's less impressive than two relative nobodies having yet another run of the mill fight?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It doesn't take away from what happened, though.

Imagine Hulk fighting someone, punching so hard they break their hands....then finally managing to defeat them, but in the process, gets 'killed' (neither one of them really 'died', as such). That would be incredibly impressive, I'd argue that due to it being DC's golden boy, it would be even more impressive.

THE cash cow. THE benchmark of physical strength in DC - physically beaten to death, whilst he himself was breaking his hands punching him. You're telling me that's less impressive than two relative nobodies having yet another run of the mill fight?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It doesn't take away from what happened, though.

Imagine Hulk fighting someone, punching so hard they break their hands....then finally managing to defeat them, but in the process, gets 'killed' (neither one of them really 'died', as such). That would be incredibly impressive, I'd argue that due to it being DC's golden boy, it would be even more impressive.

THE cash cow. THE benchmark of physical strength in DC - physically beaten to death, whilst he himself was breaking his hands punching him. You're telling me that's less impressive than two relative nobodies having yet another run of the mill fight?


All of which provides a separate context. He's and ungodly powerful mindless slaughter machine that couldn't hold back if he wanted to so why is his feat impressive?

Because he killed Superman.

Does anyone other than Blue Area Vet see the difference here? Adam sat there pleading with the Avengers, and as such wasn't fighting to the best of his ability. Doomsday was out to kill anything and everyone. Things would have gone differently if Adam was out for blood. Context?

Originally posted by Stoic
Does anyone other than Blue Area Vet see the difference here? Adam sat there pleading with the Avengers, and as such wasn't fighting to the best of his ability. Doomsday was out to kill anything and everyone. Things would have gone differently if Adam was out for blood. Context?

Not sure how Doomsday being out for blood takes anything away.

Superman was also out for blood. Was doing anything he could to stop Doomsday. And was killed. No one before or after has done the same. am also mystified how Superman hurting his hands punching Doomsday is lessened by Doomsday's bloodlust. Whether he was or not, Superman hurting himself punching ANYONE is impressive. Imagine if Hulk (used here because he's the elite strong guy in Marvel) hurt his hands punching someone - and that someone was still standing. That's pretty impressive.

Next, was Sentry/the Avengers doing everything they can to stop BM? Were they bloodluste? If not, you can use the exact same argument, and say that they weren't fighting to the best of their abilities either.

They were not fighting at their best either. Sentry dropped his guard which allowed the hit into space (back the next page and also to note negative energy was leaking into the universe which weakens sentry). Prior to that the team were working over blue pretty good.

Originally posted by riv6672
Because he killed Superman.

And BM was NOT trying to kill anyone. What's your point?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not sure how Doomsday being out for blood takes anything away.

Superman was also out for blood. Was doing anything he could to stop Doomsday. And was killed. No one before or after has done the same. am also mystified how Superman hurting his hands punching Doomsday is lessened by Doomsday's bloodlust. Whether he was or not, Superman hurting himself punching ANYONE is impressive. Imagine if Hulk (used here because he's the elite strong guy in Marvel) hurt his hands punching someone - and that someone was still standing. That's pretty impressive.

Next, was Sentry/the Avengers doing everything they can to stop BM? Were they bloodluste? If not, you can use the exact same argument, and say that they weren't fighting to the best of their abilities either.

That's the point, they aren't comparable situations to be with.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not sure how Doomsday being out for blood takes anything away.

Superman was also out for blood. Was doing anything he could to stop Doomsday. And was killed. No one before or after has done the same. am also mystified how Superman hurting his hands punching Doomsday is lessened by Doomsday's bloodlust. Whether he was or not, Superman hurting himself punching ANYONE is impressive. Imagine if Hulk (used here because he's the elite strong guy in Marvel) hurt his hands punching someone - and that someone was still standing. That's pretty impressive.

Next, was Sentry/the Avengers doing everything they can to stop BM? Were they bloodluste? If not, you can use the exact same argument, and say that they weren't fighting to the best of their abilities either.

So was the Sentry weakened when he fought Anti-Man? he needed help in that short run in, and was Anti-Man more powerful than Adam? My entire point is that this thread has two showings that aren't comparable in the least. This shouldn't be difficult to see. Doomsday was out to kill, Superman was out to kill, while none of the guys on the Marvel side was actually going for the kill. Adam was pleading, and debating with the Avengers while they were trying to take him down. Do you see the difference? In other words you can't compare the two feats. Not to mention that DOS happened at a time that characters were portrayed to be weaker than they were when Adam debuted. I mean Superman was floored by a gas station explosion.

lol that jla line-up was more powerful than that avengers line-up. not sure how could even be questioned. bloodwyn, a high level gl and maxima would EACH be the most powerful member of that avengers line up. i'd g so far as to say max could likely solo that avengers team. superman level strength, ferrokinesis, and near xavier level psi powers (tp AND tk). then there was the utter ease with which dd cut them down. they were, literally, insignificant. max did the best but was never, even for a moment, an actual threat. then there is the fact that before he ever got to earth dd decimated an entire CORPS of gl's and killed a guardian. add to that the fact that dd was still WEAK from his only recent revival and, well, there really isn't a way to frame a reasonable argument for bm.

Originally posted by Stoic
Does anyone other than Blue Area Vet see the difference here?
Yeah.
Originally posted by riv6672
....Blue Marvel fought the tougher team, under different circumstances...but he didnt seal the deal on Sentry.

Originally posted by leonidas
lol that jla line-up was more powerful than that avengers line-up. not sure how could even be questioned. bloodwyn, a high level gl and maxima would EACH be the most powerful member of that avengers line up. i'd g so far as to say max could likely solo that avengers team. superman level strength, ferrokinesis, and near xavier level psi powers (tp AND tk). then there was the utter ease with which dd cut them down. they were, literally, insignificant. max did the best but was never, even for a moment, an actual threat. then there is the fact that before he ever got to earth dd decimated an entire CORPS of gl's and killed a guardian. add to that the fact that dd was still WEAK from his only recent revival and, well, there really isn't a way to frame a reasonable argument for bm.
People underestimate how powerful Guy was with Sinestro ring. At literally zero power he was going toe to toe with Lobo, a clone with the same ring oneshotted Captain Atom, Bloodwynd, Maxima and Wonder Woman.

Guy literally depowered himself on Doomsday along with Superman, J'onn, Booster and Fire and Doomsday laughed at them.

Originally posted by Supermex
Blue Marvel took on the Avengers team of ( Ms. Marvel, Ares, She-Hulk, Wonder Man, Iron MAn)

Just noticed this. She Hulk was not there during the fight

Wasn't Sentry there too? And didn't Blue Marvel knocked him out?

Originally posted by One-Punch
Wasn't Sentry there too? And didn't Blue Marvel knocked him out?

Knock him in orbit during the fight, stopped to argue with the others, Sentry divebombed him from space while BM was arguing (sucker blow) and KOed him. Sentry staggered and was nearly KOed himself.

Originally posted by abhilegend
People underestimate how powerful Guy was with Sinestro ring. At literally zero power he was going toe to toe with Lobo, a clone with the same ring oneshotted Captain Atom, Bloodwynd, Maxima and Wonder Woman.

Guy literally depowered himself on Doomsday along with Superman, J'onn, Booster and Fire and Doomsday laughed at them.

More connect the dots, a-b-c crap. No, people don't underestimate how powerful he is.

Originally posted by One-Punch
Wasn't Sentry there too? And didn't Blue Marvel knocked him out?

Yes. He mentions it in the original post as well as others in the thread. She Hulk however was not there
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Just to note a time displaced namor from WW2 fought the same avengers team (sans Ms.Marvel) and could be argued he did better against them.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Knock him in orbit during the fight, stopped to argue with the others, Sentry divebombed him from space while BM was arguing (sucker blow) and KOed him. Sentry staggered and was nearly KOed himself.

Sentry also stopped the beating he was laying on blue and tried to talk to him. when he did and wasn't expecting it that's when blue hit him into space.

Also keep it mind the negative energy was leaching into the main universe and we know negative energy also weakens sentry as shown in his mini.

so, yeah. not even close.

DOS DOOMSDAY

Originally posted by leonidas
lol that jla line-up was more powerful than that avengers line-up. not sure how could even be questioned. bloodwyn, a high level gl and maxima would EACH be the most powerful member of that avengers line up. i'd g so far as to say max could likely solo that avengers team. superman level strength, ferrokinesis, and near xavier level psi powers (tp AND tk). then there was the utter ease with which dd cut them down. they were, literally, insignificant. max did the best but was never, even for a moment, an actual threat. then there is the fact that before he ever got to earth dd decimated an entire CORPS of gl's and killed a guardian. add to that the fact that dd was still WEAK from his only recent revival and, well, there really isn't a way to frame a reasonable argument for bm.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Sentry also stopped the beating he was laying on blue and tried to talk to him. when he did and wasn't expecting it that's when blue hit him into space.

Also keep it mind the negative energy was leaching into the main universe and we know negative energy also weakens sentry as shown in his mini.



Um, no shit Sentry and he were talking. The situations were nothing alike.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It doesn't take away from what happened, though.

Imagine Hulk fighting someone, punching so hard they break their hands....then finally managing to defeat them, but in the process, gets 'killed' (neither one of them really 'died', as such). That would be incredibly impressive, I'd argue that due to it being DC's golden boy, it would be even more impressive.

THE cash cow. THE benchmark of physical strength in DC - physically beaten to death, whilst he himself was breaking his hands punching him. You're telling me that's less impressive than two relative nobodies having yet another run of the mill fight?


This is a good point.

Originally posted by Stoic
Does anyone other than Blue Area Vet see the difference here? Adam sat there pleading with the Avengers, and as such wasn't fighting to the best of his ability. Doomsday was out to kill anything and everyone. Things would have gone differently if Adam was out for blood. Context?

Also a good point...hmmm

Originally posted by leonidas
lol that jla line-up was more powerful than that avengers line-up. not sure how could even be questioned. bloodwyn, a high level gl and maxima would EACH be the most powerful member of that avengers line up. i'd g so far as to say max could likely solo that avengers team. superman level strength, ferrokinesis, and near xavier level psi powers (tp AND tk). then there was the utter ease with which dd cut them down. they were, literally, insignificant. max did the best but was never, even for a moment, an actual threat. then there is the fact that before he ever got to earth dd decimated an entire CORPS of gl's and killed a guardian. add to that the fact that dd was still WEAK from his only recent revival and, well, there really isn't a way to frame a reasonable argument for bm.

Yeah, people forget how powerful that team was.