Originally posted by Beniboybling
By being weakened/exhausted.
How else was Nox supposed to bring him to his knees?
By kicking his ass? Like what happened in the cutscene where she doesn't injure or weaken him at all, she just forces him to his knee's. It's very possible for him to be put on his knee's temporarily by something that knocks the wind out of his sails but that he can shrug off easily enough.
Thanaton gives no signs of exhaustion of weakening after he stands up. Theres no evidence that he was either.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
On what basis are you assuming Scourge healed to full as well? If he was strong enough to continue fighting, he would have continued fighting.
I'm not, I'm thinking that he wasn't injured at all. Like I said he stands and walks away without effort. In swtor if someones injured they walk away with a hunched shuffle, which Scourge didn't do. And obviously Scourge isn't going to fight to the last, he wants the HoT and himself to be alive and uninjured.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
A feat for Dooku I suppose, shame Thanaton isn't on his level.
Though he only appears to gather strength for his FLS attack.
It's not about levels, it's not like Dooku's the only guy who can call on the Force like that. Thanaton could do it as well. And just because he was only visibly charging for his storm doesn't mean anything. Dooku wasn't swirling with darkside energy either, drawing on the Force is primarily unseen.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
We do see the fight, you're simply assuming that because it's not depicted as a cutscene, but gameplay, it's therefore non-canon, despite FE Malgus Force choking the Protags and Revan hurling meteorites being fair game. Double standards much?
And where this stated to be the case anyway?
Fool, those things are scripted events. They're things the developers put in as meant to happen in every fight. Gameplay fights are completely non-canon, with the arguably exception of their broad abilities.
Both the old EU canon rules and this forums rules (primarily the video game forum but over here as well) don't count gameplay mechanics as canon. In gameplay you have to slash Thanaton with your lightsaber a dozen times and zap him repeatedly. Obviously that didn't happen. We don't see the fight because the gameplay fight we see is divorced from the games reality.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Not interpreting?I'd say you're contradicting yourself, but apparently it isn't relevant.
I said she pretty much pwned him because she still beat him after fighting through his body guards and his allied Darth with no break, indicating she's far above him. And I said she pwned him in the cutscene which is inarguable.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
You can argue the specifics of the fight are ambiguous, but it's evident that a protracted engagement occurred, not a stomp, and that's all the evidence we need to prove Nox had to wear him down before destroying him.
Explain to me how it is evident. Issue your evidentce (ahahaha) for that claim.
If a protracted fight did ensue, it's just as likely it was due to Nox was messing around with him like we see in the cutscene. She did canonically "utterly destroy" him, which doesn't sound like a long fight where she wears him down. And it doesn't matter because Nox would be fighting equally as hard as him, it's not as if she peaces out of the fight and he just collapses in a weak heap. She'd have to draw on as much or even more, actually, power as he would to overpower and batter him until he's weak.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Really, you're forgetting he was literally ragdolled, Thanaton couldn't even raise his lightsaber against him, that is not a fight by any stretch of the imagination.
You said it, buddy.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
But if we assume the entire fight is non-canon as you suggest? That would only leave you unable to conclude that Nox didn't engage him in a protracted engagement, a necessary assumption to make in order to disprove my argument, that it was, hence Nox had to weaken Thanaton first in order stomp him.
You'd be left with a feat that is decidedly ambiguous and inconclusive.
Not at all. You're the one trying to prove that Nox weakened him. I don't need to prove that something didn't happen. That would be absurd. A fight did occur, but the details of it are unverifiable.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
And fails pathetically. But of course, you're assuming he failed just as pathetically the first time.
I know right, Thanaton is clearly quite far below Nox.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
So you accept we cannot know whether Thanaton was weakened or not, and therefore whether Nox can stomp him at full strength or not? If so that's a start.
The possibility exists but theres no evidence for it. It's as plausible as a flying spaghetti monster smacking Thanaton with a folding chair from behind.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Which likely expended the last of his power, making him susceptible to being ragdolled.
~Baseless speculation~
Originally posted by Beniboybling
There is a difference between killing fodder and a final boss. Yes game mechanics need to be fulfilled but not at the expense of the lore, hence why final bosses are consistently powerful individuals who could logically challenge the player.
A final boss that can't even raise his lightsaber to his opponent is, illogical.
The final boss of the Smuggler storyline is a fat bloke with a pistol. The final boss of the Trooper storyline is one dude against Havoc Squad. Neither are noted as good fighters and are outnumbered. Both represent essentially no threat to the player characters.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Because I'm not in the business of baseless speculation? You're again failing to understand that you don't accept the fight to be canon, you can't assume the circumstances necessary to support you're stance.
Ahahahaha! Oh wait you're serious. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Your whole point is nothing but baseless speculation with you assuming things without any evidence to support your theory. I've given you evidence, I've given you examples, I'd rebutted all your points and I am outta here.
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