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No one is safe, no matter what your party line is.

http://allenbwest.com/2015/08/wow-muslim-beheads-shopper-in-ikea-store-look-what-ikea-is-doing-in-response/

its not the knives that are the problem thou

4 weeks is a interesting time to figure out if someone will behead a women and stab her son in a public place

lol after googling this its nothing more then propaganda

There's actually not a single mention in any (serious) Swedish media that anyone was beheaded in the attack. Which doesn't surprise me, considering that they were killed with kitchen knives and not meat cleavers.

I'm sure IKEA would've had instructions on how to put the head back on.

time why are you posting BS propaganda

this isnt cuba you know

This doesn't make any sense to me, the article says he had met with officials hours earlier and was set to be deported. So then how did he end up released and able to go to stores? If you are going to deport someone wouldn't you hold them until you deport them?

the date isnt even specified

i have seen sources saying it happened 4 days ago

Are you saying this didn't actually happen?

Originally posted by Surtur
Are you saying this didn't actually happen?
Living in Europe, I have not seen or heard anything about it. I can only imagine that if some public beheading happened again like it did in London a couple of years ago, it would be all over the news in basically any European country, like it was back then. So it probably didn't happen the way it says in the article linked in the OP.

Originally posted by Surtur
Are you saying this didn't actually happen?
i am saying what ever happened wasnt this or wasnt at this magnitude

Also, the comments underneath the article are hilarious.

"To answer your question about what IKEA management should do, I think IKEA management should act senatorial and presidential. Our USA president and senate are contemplating a treaty with Iran. Senators do not even know the contents of this treaty.

So when people come into IKEA give them a box of unknown contents. Perhaps some knives and worthless fiat money should be included in the box. Then IKEA executives should try to look presidential and senatorial
as they do their own thing.
If IKEA goes bankrupt or if more violence erupts then they can try to get a job in USA politics!! "- Cathy

The story has been reported on UK radio (I remember hearing about something to do with an IKEA murder a few days ago) and it's also been reported by various publications, including the BBC, ABC, and (heaven forbid) the Daily Mail.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33905334

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3193402/Two-asylum-seekers-arrested-stabbing-death-mother-son-shopping-flatpack-furniture-Swedish-IKEA.html

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-14/eritrean-asylum-seeker-admits-to-ikea-double-murder/6696582

Originally posted by Scribble
The story has been reported on UK radio (I remember hearing about something to do with an IKEA murder a few days ago) and it's also been reported by various publications, including the BBC, ABC, and (heaven forbid) the Daily Mail.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33905334

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3193402/Two-asylum-seekers-arrested-stabbing-death-mother-son-shopping-flatpack-furniture-Swedish-IKEA.html

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-14/eritrean-asylum-seeker-admits-to-ikea-double-murder/6696582

Genesis, Keyer, and Slay reads this, then retracts and runs from thread after their above comments are the only ones that are false propaganda.

Classic

And yet your title had the word "beheading" in it, which wasn't exactly accurate.

Stones in glass houses, and all.

It wasn't a beheading, and the culprit stabbed himself after the crime; so he was clearly not sane. Meanwhile, there are a million Muslims in Sweden that lead good lives, work and pay their taxes.

Originally posted by Scribble
The story has been reported on UK radio (I remember hearing about something to do with an IKEA murder a few days ago) and it's also been reported by various publications, including the BBC, ABC, and (heaven forbid) the Daily Mail.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33905334

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3193402/Two-asylum-seekers-arrested-stabbing-death-mother-son-shopping-flatpack-furniture-Swedish-IKEA.html

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-14/eritrean-asylum-seeker-admits-to-ikea-double-murder/6696582 Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Genesis, Keyer, and Slay reads this, then retracts and runs from thread after their above comments are the only ones that are false propaganda.

Classic
No one was arguing it didn't happen, just that there was no beheading, and the claims of beheading were probably just an attempt to stoke anti-Muslim propaganda.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Genesis, Keyer, and Slay reads this, then retracts and runs from thread after their above comments are the only ones that are false propaganda.

Classic
I said that whatever happened, it most likely did not happen the way that the article linked in your OP says it did (i.e. involving a beheading and motivated by the perpetrators Islamic beliefs). The links provided by Scribble prove my statement right. I don't see how that equates to retracting and running from a thread but then, as a true conservatard you are a master at distorting and intentionally misinterpreting facts to make them fit your own narrative.

I wish people would stop using words like "conservatard," "libtard," and "dumbocrat"

It doesn't really advance debate, just puts up an additional barrier for understanding.

Originally posted by Slay
I said that whatever happened, it most likely did not happen the way that the article linked in your OP says it did (i.e. involving a beheading and motivated by the perpetrators Islamic beliefs). The links provided by Scribble prove my statement right. I don't see how that equates to retracting and running from a thread but then, as a true conservatard you are a master at distorting and intentionally misinterpreting facts to make them fit your own narrative.

I distorted nothing. Quit lying.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I distorted nothing. Quit lying.
Dude, the thread title says there was a beheading, and literally no credible news source backs that up.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Genesis, Keyer, and Slay reads this, then retracts and runs from thread after their above comments are the only ones that are false propaganda.

Classic

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
i am saying what ever happened wasnt this or wasnt at this magnitude

how is this a classic example of ME?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I wish people would stop using words like "conservatard," "libtard," and "dumbocrat"

It doesn't really advance debate, just puts up an additional barrier for understanding.

agreed... 100%. I think after awhile, one starts to notice this disturbing objective to be "The Right Side" as oppose to course of preventative action. I honestly feel justice and resolution plays a back seat to "you're wrong and i'm right" and the sole objective is to make the other side look bad. Its not just conservative either, i've seen liberal spew nonsense like that while trying to look all righteous also, lol, smh.

god damn republicans

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I wish people would stop using words like "conservatard," "libtard," and "dumbocrat"

It doesn't really advance debate, just puts up an additional barrier for understanding.

Oh shut up, Omega Vidiot....

*tumbleweed blows by*

I'll get me coat....

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
i am saying what ever happened wasnt this or wasnt at this magnitude

Really, so this was not a beheading to you? Clearly the victims head is off. Everyone here is in denial and should be ashamed of themselves for always downplaying every situation involving Islam.

http://shoebat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/PhotoZoom-Pro-6ScreenSnapz016-1-e1439397418461.png

http://shoebat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/PhotoZoom-Pro-6ScreenSnapz018.png

I removed the IMG tags there- please be careful about potentially distressing images.

Whatever

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I removed the IMG tags there- please be careful about potentially distressing images.

thank you for the heads up

oh crap, no pun intended. i swear

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
thank you for the heads up

oh crap, no pun intended. i swear

So what was this "Oh this never happened?"

You feel bad for downplaying now?

Nice retreat from you previous stance though.

sorry man but i have no idea what the hell i am lokking at

if it wasw a beheading where is all the blood spilt around the floor near the neck area

they didnt drain her, clean her up then move her infront of a window did they?
even if "they" did that alot of blood to drain and would take a few hours do do proply

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I removed the IMG tags there- please be careful about potentially distressing images.

Funny how you knew this happened and didn't post anything here till actual proof was shown, then once proof is shown, you censor it.

Genesis denies this is a beheading, so clearly he does not think its distressing.

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
sorry man but i have no idea what the hell i am lokking at

if it wasw a beheading where is all the blood spilt around the floor near the neck area

they didnt drain her, clean her up then move her infront of a window did they?
even if "they" did that alot of blood to drain and would take a few hours do do proply

So you are still denying this was a beheading even though the head has been removed and the pics I posted, Ush censored them?

Thats your well thought out response...so more downplaying after proof has been posted.

There is blood everywhere, open you eyes.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Whatever
Nice edit.

So how does posting a picture of a (possibly) beheaded person without any context prove you right? Furthermore what gives you the idea that this guy killed those people out of Islamic beliefs? Because he was Eritrean? Eritrea is a country who's population is about equally divided between Muslims and Christians. We have no idea of what this man's religion was and a strong indication that the reason he committed this crime was because he was about to be deported.

By all accounts this story is somewhat similar to a school shooting. A clearly disturbed man disgruntled by society lashes out by committing a heinous crime. Don't try to make it into something it isn't for the sake of further confirming your beliefs about the dangers of Islam.

Originally posted by Slay
Nice edit.

So how does posting a picture of a (possibly) beheaded person without any context prove you right? Furthermore what gives you the idea that this guy killed those people out of Islamic beliefs? Because he was Eritrean? Eritrea is a country who's population is about equally divided between Muslims and Christians. We have no idea of what this man's religion was and a strong indication that the reason he committed this crime was because he was about to be deported.

By all accounts this story is somewhat similar to a school shooting. A clearly disturbed man disgruntled by society lashes out by committing a heinous crime. Don't try to make it into something it isn't for the sake of further confirming you're beliefs about the dangers of Islam.

"Possibly" a beheading

I'm going to have fun breaking you. And showing you don't have the slightest clue about much of anything regarding this, and probably anything else.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
"Possibly" a beheading

It's not an exactly a clear picture, is it? Also, where does it state that this was actually taken at the Ikea in question? Nothing you've claimed has been backed by facts.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I'm going to have fun breaking you. And showing you don't have the slightest clue about much of anything regarding this, and probably anything else.

Have fun doing whatever you think it is you're doing. It's definitely not ''breaking'' me.

Originally posted by Slay
It's not an exactly a clear picture, is it? Also, where does it state that this was actually taken at the Ikea in question? Nothing you've claimed has been backed by facts.


Ur kidding right? So thats not in Ikea, and thats not a beheading? Do enjoy being blind or bias to truth?

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/08/12/madness-muslim-beheads-woman-in-ikea-swedish-police-send-reinforcement-to-boost-security-for-muslims/

http://vladtepesblog.com/2015/08/11/so-what-happened-in-sweden-and-what-about-the-iranian-side-deals-links-2-on-aug-11-2015/comment-page-1/

There was this thing invented called google btw..here you go.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ikea%20beheading

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Ur kidding right? So thats not in Ikea, and thats not a beheading? Do enjoy being blind or bias to truth?

http://vladtepesblog.com/2015/08/11/so-what-happened-in-sweden-and-what-about-the-iranian-side-deals-links-2-on-aug-11-2015/comment-page-1/

There was this thing invented called google btw..here you go.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ikea%20beheading
Where does an unbiased, credible source state that this was taken at the Ikea in question?

Providing links to anti-Islam conspiracy sites isn't exactly doing your case any good.

Originally posted by Slay
Where does an unbiased source state that this was taken at the Ikea in question?

Providing links to anti-Islam conspiracy sites isn't exactly doing your case any good.

So you are in complete denial this happened and now turned to its a conspiracy?

Is google biased?

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...kea%20beheading

Your a joke.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So you are in complete denial this happened and now turned to its a conspiracy?

Is google biased?

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...kea%20beheading

Your a joke.
No, but the sources it links to definitely are. Barenaked Islam? The Muslim Issue? Patriot Update? I'm supposed to take those as credible sources on an issue like this? Nice try.

Originally posted by Slay
No, but the sources it links to definitely are. Barenaked Islam? The Muslim Issue? Patriot Update? I'm supposed to take those as credible sources on an issue like this? Nice try.

Funny thing is I don't have to convince you of anything, I already know you blind and a fool. A woman lost her life and you claim conspiracy..Why did Ikea already stop selling knives in their stores?

Also is this biased source?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sweden-ikea-knife-attack-eritrean-suspect-was-due-be-deported-1515366

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Funny thing is I don't have to convince you of anything, I already know you blind and a fool. A woman lost her life and you claim conspiracy..Why did Ikea already stop selling knives in their stores?

Also is this biased source?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sweden-ikea-knife-attack-eritrean-suspect-was-due-be-deported-1515366
When did I claim conspiracy? So you don't know how to contain you your ridiculous argument and resort to personal attacks and somehow imply that I don't care a woman lost her life? You really are reaching.

Originally posted by Slay
When did I claim conspiracy?

Originally posted by Slay

Providing links to anti-Islam conspiracy sites isn't exactly doing your case any good.

Boom

Originally posted by Slay
When did I claim conspiracy? So you don't know how to contain you your ridiculous argument and resort to personal attacks and somehow imply that I don't care a woman lost her life? You really are reaching.

Do you like hurting other people or like seeing other people get hurt?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Boom
So saying that conspiracy-themed anti-Islam sites are not credible sources regarding this matter is claiming that the whole matter is a conspiracy? Ok, haha, nice try.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Funny how you knew this happened and didn't post anything here till actual proof was shown, then once proof is shown, you censor it.

Genesis denies this is a beheading, so clearly he does not think its distressing.

Wait, you think me removing direct IMG tags to what you describe as pics of decapitated corpses is some sort of conspiratorial attack on you?

Despite the fact that not posting potentially offensive images is explicitly forbidden by the rules?

Despite the fact that I LEFT THE LINKS IN so people could look at them if they wished, I merely removed the images from automatic display? That's what you call censorship?

And now you want to use me not posting in the thread as evidence of bias? You don't want to consider at all that I'm simply not interested in the content but as part of my mod job I keep an eye on potentially awkward threads- I admit, I was looking for flaming arguments breaking out rather than corpse pictures, but all the same...

You've crossed the line into the purely paranoid. Get out of your victim complex- you aren't being targeted because you are you, it's just you have a habit of breaking the rules, as you did then rather directly and obviously, and even then I didn't warn you, because I assumed it was just a mistake so I merely removed the tags and provided a reminder.

Clearly, though, you are determined to martyr yourself even when you are receiving reasonable treatment. Martyrdom doesn't count for much online, but I am not going to tolerate this angry victim complex of yours any more, so if you kick off like that again I will ban you, and based on your recent behaviour this place will be much better for it.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Do you like hurting other people or like seeing other people get hurt? His point is that there is a difference between a religious beheading, like the ones we've seen from ISIS in the Middle East and Northern Africa, and one lone guy going at someone's neck so many times that it mostly severs their head. So saying "Beheading @ IKEA" gives the wrong impression, because one automatically thinks of the ISIS execution videos, and thus ties the attack to radical Islam, when in reality it has likely has little or nothing to do with radical Islam and is, in fact, tied more heavily to mental health and/or immigration.

Originally posted by Scribble
His point is that there is a difference between a religious beheading, like the ones we've seen from ISIS in the Middle East and Northern Africa, and one lone guy going at someone's neck so many times that it mostly severs their head. So saying "Beheading @ IKEA" gives the wrong impression, because one automatically thinks of the ISIS execution videos, and thus ties the attack to radical Islam, when in reality it has likely has little or nothing to do with radical Islam and is, in fact, tied more heavily to mental health and/or immigration.

That's not exactly what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that there's not been one credible news source that has confirmed there was a beheading involved, whether orchestrated like ISIS nor one lone guy hacking away at someone's head. What's been reported is a stabbing. Nor is there a source that confirms that the guy who did this was even muslim to begin with. How Islam even factors into this discussion is beyond me.

Like I said before, assuming this man was Muslim because he's Eritrean is stretching it. He might just as well be Christian. Or atheist for that matter, truth is we have no clue what his religious beliefs are.

Originally posted by Slay
That's not exactly what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that there's not been one credible news source that has confirmed there was a beheading involved, whether orchestrated like ISIS nor one lone guy hacking away at someone's head. What's been reported is a stabbing. Nor is there a source that confirms that the guy who did this was even muslim to begin with. How Islam even factors into this discussion is beyond me.

Like I said before, assuming this man was Muslim because he's Eritrean is stretching it. He might just as well be Christian. Or atheist for that matter, truth is we have no clue what his religious beliefs are. That was part of what I was saying, but yeah, maybe I probably didn't make that clear enough. "Radical Islam" and "terrorist" are Right Wing buzzwords, and if something violent like this happens then usually Muslims are the first to be blamed, which is in itself ridiculous (i.e. the casting of blame onto an entire religion). In this kind of a case though, the man's religion (whatever it is) isn't a point, since nothing in the story indicates that this was in any way religiously motivated, and it makes all the more ridiculous to frame the story so that it seems from the bat that it's another ISIS attack, but this time happening on European soil, which is a pretty big jump from what actually happened.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Funny thing is I don't have to convince you of anything, I already know you blind and a fool. A woman lost her life and you claim conspiracy..Why did Ikea already stop selling knives in their stores?

Also is this biased source?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sweden-ikea-knife-attack-eritrean-suspect-was-due-be-deported-1515366
Also, I'd like to add, regardless of whether the source is credible, the article in that link confirms about everything I've said so far in this thread, so I don't see where you think you're going with this. So far your attempts at "breaking" me have only displayed your lack of talent for comprehensive reading and your willingness to believe any source as long as they confirm what you want to believe.

QUOTE=15344993]Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So what was this "Oh this never happened?"

You feel bad for downplaying now?

Nice retreat from you previous stance though.

nope dont feel bad for "downplaying"
once again what ever happened isnt of the described magnitiude because i am finding quite a few inconsistant sources on the matter

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Funny how you knew this happened and didn't post anything here till actual proof was shown, then once proof is shown, you censor it.

Genesis denies this is a beheading, so clearly he does not think its distressing.
wow your looking for a mod conspiracy
i just want more substanscial and corroborated proof from well known and reliable sources

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So you are still denying this was a beheading even though the head has been removed and the pics I posted, Ush censored them?

There is blood everywhere, open you eyes.

i am saying i am not seeing the blood nor properly seeing above the neck, get a better photo if possible. given the quality i could compare this to some hillbilly's photo of bigfoot

once again unbiased sources would be nice about now

Swedish government is doing everything it has to censor the leaked photos and videos by witnesses to prevent "Islamophobia."

This is a fine example of cultural Marxism, where freedom of speech is nothing but an illusion.

hence there is going to be bias and propaganda around this