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No bfring. Fight takes place in an adamantium cage the size of a WWE ring.

superman via rko, then followed by a peoples elbow just to shit on him further.

Originally posted by carver9
No bfring. Fight takes place in an adamantium cage the size of a WWE ring.
You can add Wonder Woman and Shazam on Superman's side and they all still die.

Kurse ftw.

Originally posted by ghostman
superman via rko, then followed by a peoples elbow just to shit on him further.

Superman would never use the finisher of his greatest rival:

Z_bOe24Pkng

Originally posted by juggerman
Superman would never use the finisher of his greatest rival:

Z_bOe24Pkng


good lord when he rkos the plane i ****ing died

Originally posted by zopzop
You can add Wonder Woman and Shazam on Superman's side and they all still die.

Kurse ftw.

Originally posted by zopzop
You can add Wonder Woman and Shazam on Superman's side and they all still die.

Kurse ftw.

Correct, spite.

Originally posted by carver9
No bfring. Fight takes place in an adamantium cage the size of a WWE ring.

if adamantium affects kurse the way iron does, kurse could be in trouble. supes could just knock him into the cage walls (via blitzes, vision or breath) and continually weaken him, or the proximity alone might be enough to weaken kurse. kurse would also have one hell of a time hitting kal given that he is as slow as molasses....

without use of the cage, can't see how kal wins, but it would take a LONG time as he'd pretty much need to wait until supes got too tired to continually avoid him and got too close....

you kinda put supes in a no-win situation carv.

Kurse

Superman wins.
He's stronger.
Has vastly greater speed. Can perceive Kurse moving in still motion.
Has ranged powers like hv and freeze breath and hurricane breath.

Kurse is only a few times stronger than Thor. Why does that equate to him being stronger than Supes? Also, even if Kurse was stronger then why is strength the deciding factor (or more important factor than other factors such as speed and ranged powers)?

People are not debating with their brains but rather their feelings.

Kurse gives him the wraith treatment.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Kurse gives him the wraith treatment.
He gets koed by Superman even after using kryptonite radiation on him?

Kurse annihilates him.

Originally posted by h1a8
Kurse is only a few times stronger than Thor. Why does that equate to him being stronger than Supes? Also, even if Kurse was stronger then why is strength the deciding factor (or more important factor than other factors such as speed and ranged powers)?

People are not debating with their brains but rather their feelings.


Dude, you have a serious condition. Yoi have to want the help.

superman loses this fight............badly

Originally posted by deathslash
superman loses this fight............badly No he doesn't. Only lowly intelligent beings would think so. They say, "X is stronger so X wins. Screw all other important matters that really count as strength is all I care about."


Superman is stronger and vastly faster and has hv that will burn the shit out of Kurse. Even if Superman was weaker then he would still see Kurse moving in still motion. How in the hell could someone lose against someone who doesn't appear to be moving?

Originally posted by h1a8
No he doesn't. Only lowly intelligent beings would think so. They say, "X is stronger so X wins. Screw all other important matters that really count as strength is all I care about."


Superman is stronger and vastly faster and has hv that will burn the shit out of Kurse. Even if Superman was weaker then he would still see Kurse moving in still motion. How in the hell could someone lose against someone who doesn't appear to be moving? . WOW dude, you are confused in the worst way. Kurse would stomp superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He gets koed by Superman even after using kryptonite radiation on him?



Nah just this part.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113893/4114973-7953038014-40910.jpg
http://41.media.tumblr.com/a132787b1f2e47b0802f20932eedea1e/tumblr_nbo7js2B091rgn3nyo5_1280.jpg

Originally posted by Damborgson


Nah just this part.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113893/4114973-7953038014-40910.jpg
http://41.media.tumblr.com/a132787b1f2e47b0802f20932eedea1e/tumblr_nbo7js2B091rgn3nyo5_1280.jpg
Where Superman was just fine afterward?

What would that mean?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where Superman was just fine afterward?

What would that mean? that superman gets booted into an adamantium cage at very high speeds?

Originally posted by JBL
. WOW dude, you are confused in the worst way. Kurse would stomp superman. Prove it.
Prove how Superman would lose to someone he sees is not even moving.
Prove that Kurse is stronger than Superman.
Prove that Superman's hv will have no effect.
Debate for once.

Originally posted by deathslash
that superman gets booted into an adamantium cage at very high speeds?
And?

Originally posted by zopzop
You can add Wonder Woman and Shazam on Superman's side and they all still die.

Kurse ftw.

Shazam would actually solo Kurse with an iron ping pong table.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where Superman was just fine afterward?

What would that mean?

He wouldn't be after Kurse did it.

And I'm not playing the pretend to be stupid game with you you know well enough what's meant, and if not, well that's a personal problem...

Originally posted by Damborgson
He wouldn't be after Kurse did it.

And I'm not playing the pretend to be stupid game with you you know well enough what's meant, and if not, well that's a personal problem...
Wraith was 3-4 times stronger than Superman too if you see the way he absorbed sunlight and the amount of time he did absorb that.

http://i.imgur.com/oz2NohF.jpg

Funny, eh? I'd bet being stronger than Superman by that margin would place Wraith above Kurse too.

mmm

Originally posted by Damborgson
He wouldn't be after Kurse did it.

And I'm not playing the pretend to be stupid game with you you know well enough what's meant, and if not, well that's a personal problem... Why do you believe that Kurse is stronger than Clark? What's the basis for this? And why do you value strength far more than speed, perceiving things in slow motion or still motion, hv, and flight all put together?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wraith was 3-4 times stronger than Superman too if you see the way he absorbed sunlight and the amount of time he did absorb that.

http://i.imgur.com/oz2NohF.jpg

Funny, eh? I'd bet being stronger than Superman by that margin would place Wraith above Kurse too.

mmm

Maybe so. It's not all that uncommon for heroes to go above and beyond their own strength, somehow.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wraith was 3-4 times stronger than Superman too if you see the way he absorbed sunlight and the amount of time he did absorb that.

http://i.imgur.com/oz2NohF.jpg

Funny, eh? I'd bet being stronger than Superman by that margin would place Wraith above Kurse too.

mmm How does this particular scan make him 3-4 times stronger?

thats some wierd math. pulling an extra 20 gigawatts = 3-4 Superman.

Nothing during that scene tells us he is 3 to 4 times stronger. Nothing.

Superman holds back so he will only use 50 gwatts max and store the rest for greater feats such as ripping DD in half.

But seriously
140 gwatts *sec is lifting 140 billion Newtons a height of a meter (Or over 15 million tons). In 2 seconds this is doubled, 3 seconds tripled, etc. So theoretically Wraith could be 100s of times stronger.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
How does this particular scan make him 3-4 times stronger?

FFS you dolt.

140 x 4 = 160.

How can you not see this?

The chickens come home to roost.......on New Krypton.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
How does this particular scan make him 3-4 times stronger?
He absorbed more power than Superman. Superman was doing it for 25 years. Wraith was doing it for 75 years.

Simple observation.

well that makes more sense than the scan did. everything feeds off the sun these days in comics. thats the go to energy source for superheroes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He absorbed more power than Superman. Superman was doing it for 25 years. Wraith was doing it for 75 years.

Simple observation.

That....ignores the aging process, and the fact that both sides would be expending energy.

If both had just sat there, absorbing energy for 25/75 years respectively, then fine. But they didn't.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That....ignores the aging process, and the fact that both sides would be expending energy.

If both had just sat there, absorbing energy for 25/75 years respectively, then fine. But they didn't. dammit man! What did we say about using logic and reason in the Vs forum? Do we need to temp ban you again?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That....ignores the aging process, and the fact that both sides would be expending energy.

If both had just sat there, absorbing energy for 25/75 years respectively, then fine. But they didn't.
You're right. Superman was continuously expanding his energies while Wraith was inactive and was just absorbing power.

So 3-4 times stronger seems right.

I thought he ran ops for the US government? Nagasaki etc?

Next, you're gonna say a dude who's been eating burgers for 75 years and is a couch potato is 3-4 times more powerful than a 25 year old athlete....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought he ran ops for the US government? Nagasaki etc?

Next, you're gonna say a dude who's been eating burgers for 75 years and is a couch potato is 3-4 times more powerful than a 25 year old athlete....
No, he was inactive between those years.

Are you seriously comparing this to real life? Wraith was suggested as more powerful than Superman because he absorbed more power than him and the duration of absorption was far more than Superman.

It's not rocket science.

Kurse thumps him as we all know.

Beating monsters like Kurse is what Superman does.

Superman wins 10/10.

140 gwatts *sec is lifting 140 billion Newtons a height of a meter (Or over 15 million tons). In 2 seconds this is doubled, 3 seconds tripled, etc. So theoretically Wraith could be 100s of times stronger

You're ignoring his energy expenditure. Which is a massive hole to be forgetting.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
How does this particular scan make him 3-4 times stronger?
Originally posted by abhilegend
He absorbed more power than Superman. Superman was doing it for 25 years. Wraith was doing it for 75 years.

Simple observation.
What?!
facepalm

Originally posted by deathslash
that superman gets booted into an adamantium cage at very high speeds?

They are fighting in a adamantium cage, genius. How does he get booted into one, when thats where the fight starts..